The madness of gambling addicts.

[Renampun]

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The saving and investment is the best option for the long term.But if you are gambler and having gambling habit,you never stop it at any age.The good gamblers will do gambling with discipline and periodic manner.The gambler use all this two option for their long term profit,the first one is they gamble and store the profit in separate wallet for their future.Saving your profit in terms of cryptocurrency is most important one.Because the holding may double in some years using the cryptocurrency savings.The investment of fifty percentage of the saving is good option.So the saving and investment will handle some of the future loss from the gambling.This allow the gambler to have fun in longer period as compared to unplanned gambler.

Yes, but if you keep gambling for a long time, eventually all your money will be lost in the gambling activities.

There's no real savings when you are gambling, you are just winning and losing, and overall losing a bit more, so expected return is negative.

how can you have savings when you are too addicted to gambling, unless you are a professional gambler, the owner of the gambling business or the bookie, I have seen many cases of addict gamblers who sell all the assets they have and even have accumulated debt just to fulfill their gambling desires.

but if you are a gambling owner (offline or online casino) or a bookie, then I'm sure your savings will be abundant because you have to take good care of your cash flow so that the turnover of your business money runs smoothly.

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[Pamadar]

~snip~
The saving and investment is the best option for the long term.But if you are gambler and having gambling habit,you never stop it at any age.The good gamblers will do gambling with discipline and periodic manner.The gambler use all this two option for their long term profit,the first one is they gamble and store the profit in separate wallet for their future.Saving your profit in terms of cryptocurrency is most important one.Because the holding may double in some years using the cryptocurrency savings.The investment of fifty percentage of the saving is good option.So the saving and investment will handle some of the future loss from the gambling.This allow the gambler to have fun in longer period as compared to unplanned gambler.

Yes, but if you keep gambling for a long time, eventually all your money will be lost in the gambling activities.

There's no real savings when you are gambling, you are just winning and losing, and overall losing a bit more, so expected return is negative.

how can you have savings when you are too addicted to gambling, unless you are a professional gambler, the owner of the gambling business or the bookie, I have seen many cases of addict gamblers who sell all the assets they have and even have accumulated debt just to fulfill their gambling desires.

but if you are a gambling owner (offline or online casino) or a bookie, then I'm sure your savings will be abundant because you have to take good care of your cash flow so that the turnover of your business money runs smoothly.

If ever that there's someone who can save some money out from gambling, we can call them experienced gambler who realizes
the risk from this business.

Just the same with your statement, if you are the owner or bookie, that's gives you
huge edge to earn a lot from the business. Flowing money from the gambler is possible
and if you are wise, you will really make more money from your business.

[Shamm]

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

[1] https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/social-responsibility

They lost their mind it because they will not think the possible outcome and also greediness is take over their peaceful mind so that they can not avoid what they are doing. Addicts didn't control their mind so what we saw is that gambling is acting not normal. That's why we called them that they will loss their mind cause all they want is to gamble and gamble and win without thinking the possible outcome.

[nullama]

~snip~
If ever that there's someone who can save some money out from gambling, we can call them experienced gambler who realizes
the risk from this business.

Just the same with your statement, if you are the owner or bookie, that's gives you
huge edge to earn a lot from the business. Flowing money from the gambler is possible
and if you are wise, you will really make more money from your business.

Yes, only the people providing the gambling services are the ones actually earning money constantly.

It's no secret that the casino has an edge in every bet, and that they make an enormous amount of money.

Trying to win money by gambling is not realistic, it's just entertainment.

[Lucasgabd]

~snip~

yes, I think the main problem is avoiding to see reality as it is
many people approach gambling as a way to make easy money or relying on it as income when in reality it should be entertainment.

if it's too hard for someone to stop gambling they should seek help.

The important thing is that they can open up by telling their problems to people close to them before going to a professional to get help. They need attention from other people close to them so that it is with the openness of gambling addicts that they can see that the people around them are still there for them and are always ready to help them. By doing this, the gambling addict can get help immediately, and if the people around them cannot help, they go to the professionals for more help.

I totally agree
the hard part is that not all people have a network of emotional support and it's harder for some than others to open up and talk about their problems or to seek a therapist.
life has an interesting way to play with us sometimes.

[nullama]

~snip~
I totally agree
the hard part is that not all people have a network of emotional support and it's harder for some than others to open up and talk about their problems or to seek a therapist.
life has an interesting way to play with us sometimes.

That's true.

But also, at the end of the day, the change has to come from the inside. Yes, people can help you, and give you support, but if you don't want to change at the core, then you won't change.

The good thing about it is that even a lonely person still has an opportunity to change, even without any supporting network. It will probably be more difficult of course, but it's still possible.

[bitcampaign]

~snip~
The saving and investment is the best option for the long term.But if you are gambler and having gambling habit,you never stop it at any age.The good gamblers will do gambling with discipline and periodic manner.The gambler use all this two option for their long term profit,the first one is they gamble and store the profit in separate wallet for their future.Saving your profit in terms of cryptocurrency is most important one.Because the holding may double in some years using the cryptocurrency savings.The investment of fifty percentage of the saving is good option.So the saving and investment will handle some of the future loss from the gambling.This allow the gambler to have fun in longer period as compared to unplanned gambler.

Yes, but if you keep gambling for a long time, eventually all your money will be lost in the gambling activities.

There's no real savings when you are gambling, you are just winning and losing, and overall losing a bit more, so expected return is negative.

If you keep playing and not to look back, then it's true that all of that money is in your hands, even you manage to win, some will return
and lose to the house eventually.

There's nothing you can do if you are unable to control your greed. Addiction is what really affects your
decision making, instead of stopping you, keep trying to win for more. A kind of greed that being developed
from time to time of your gambling participations.

It's really bad for you if you will be greedy when it comes to gambling. Everything related to money, you must not be so ambitious because you might end up losing rather than winning because of being impulsive and irrational. The moment you become clouded, you'll end up sabotaging your success. You must not cross your limits in gambling because it can potentially bring you harm such as losing all your winning prizes instead of growing it bigger, and even falling into addiction and spiraling into the rock bottom.

You must know how to control your urges in playing and betting. You shouldn't let your emotions take over you to avoid having poor decisions and actions.

Is that what is called being blinded by money, because only people like that can do anything for the benefit of their pockets, no matter what risks they will experience at least they will continue to make money even if they win at gambling, because cases like this are not only once did the victims and gambling enthusiasts increase, even criminal acts were caused there were two possibilities either for gambling or drugs, but most of those who were gambling enthusiasts certainly would not be far from drugs or could get results from the sale, even though lust will always envelop gambling enthusiasts and even they seem to be out of control to continue playing and spending the money they have, regardless of the words of pleasure that are in them only the pleasure of playing is no longer the result of winning and their mindset is like going back and forth ..

[tusandii]

They lost their mind it because they will not think the possible outcome and also greediness is take over their peaceful mind so that they can not avoid what they are doing. Addicts didn't control their mind so what we saw is that gambling is acting not normal. That's why we called them that they will loss their mind cause all they want is to gamble and gamble and win without thinking the possible outcome.

Gambling addicts have different thoughts from normal gamblers who just want fun.
Risk is always thought of by every gambler whether he is a gambling addict or just a gambler who is not very active in gambling, for example a gambling addict always tries to get a win and they also still choose which game or bet has a big chance to be won and they too always avoid all kinds of games or bets that are difficult to win so anyone always has thoughts about risk, even if they are a crazy gambling addict.
The mistake of a gambling addict is only one, that is, they have a great desire to win by trying to spend all their money and forget everything including work or even their family while gambling.

[Reatim]

They lost their mind it because they will not think the possible outcome and also greediness is take over their peaceful mind so that they can not avoid what they are doing. Addicts didn't control their mind so what we saw is that gambling is acting not normal. That's why we called them that they will loss their mind cause all they want is to gamble and gamble and win without thinking the possible outcome.

Gambling addicts have different thoughts from normal gamblers who just want fun.
Risk is always thought of by every gambler whether he is a gambling addict or just a gambler who is not very active in gambling, for example a gambling addict always tries to get a win and they also still choose which game or bet has a big chance to be won and they too always avoid all kinds of games or bets that are difficult to win so anyone always has thoughts about risk, even if they are a crazy gambling addict.

addicted or not? all are risking in gambling because there is none of us
that can make sure to win even the best gambler in the worlds
assures nothing though  they have higher winning rates.

The mistake of a gambling addict is only one, that is, they have a great desire to win by trying to spend all their money and forget everything including work or even their family while gambling.

spend all money? not all addict spending all their money but yes they are trying to maximized losses instead.

[maydna]

~snip~

I totally agree
the hard part is that not all people have a network of emotional support and it's harder for some than others to open up and talk about their problems or to seek a therapist.
life has an interesting way to play with us sometimes.

And as long as we know how to overcome every problem in our life, we can survive the things we don't want. And having support from other people is not easy, and we may need to tell every problem to the right person who can help us overcome the problem. It may take time to solve every problem, but by telling others, we will feel relieved and won't think too much about the problem. In addition, support from other people can make us feel that we are not alone and that there are still people who want to come to us to help and solve our problems. But only a few people can do this because they only keep their problems to themselves and try to solve them on their own.

[Lucasgabd]

~snip~
I totally agree
the hard part is that not all people have a network of emotional support and it's harder for some than others to open up and talk about their problems or to seek a therapist.
life has an interesting way to play with us sometimes.

That's true.

But also, at the end of the day, the change has to come from the inside. Yes, people can help you, and give you support, but if you don't want to change at the core, then you won't change.

The good thing about it is that even a lonely person still has an opportunity to change, even without any supporting network. It will probably be more difficult of course, but it's still possible.

yes, great point
if there's a person who doesn't want to be helped nobody will be able to help them in the end.

it's interesting to thing about these adaptative mechanisms that help us thrive in a challenging world (lol this could be a headline for some kind of animal planet doc)
sometimes I wonder what makes people change... insights? divine inspiration? changes in their neuro circuits or even neuro chemistry?

[madnessteat]

They lost their mind it because they will not think the possible outcome and also greediness is take over their peaceful mind so that they can not avoid what they are doing. Addicts didn't control their mind so what we saw is that gambling is acting not normal. That's why we called them that they will loss their mind cause all they want is to gamble and gamble and win without thinking the possible outcome.

Gambling addicts have different thoughts from normal gamblers who just want fun.
Risk is always thought of by every gambler whether he is a gambling addict or just a gambler who is not very active in gambling, for example a gambling addict always tries to get a win and they also still choose which game or bet has a big chance to be won and they too always avoid all kinds of games or bets that are difficult to win so anyone always has thoughts about risk, even if they are a crazy gambling addict.
The mistake of a gambling addict is only one, that is, they have a great desire to win by trying to spend all their money and forget everything including work or even their family while gambling.

Gambling addicted people during gambling is not so keen on the process of gambling as thoughts of how to win because their desire to win over time becomes so obsessive that overshadows all other desires and reasonable inferences. I compare gambling addicts with sectarians, who also see nothing but their faith. Fortunately these problems are easily solved with the help of specialists, if only there was a desire. 

[nullama]

~snip~
yes, great point
if there's a person who doesn't want to be helped nobody will be able to help them in the end.

it's interesting to thing about these adaptative mechanisms that help us thrive in a challenging world (lol this could be a headline for some kind of animal planet doc)
sometimes I wonder what makes people change... insights? divine inspiration? changes in their neuro circuits or even neuro chemistry?

It's not clear if we have free will, but at least we have the illusion that we have it, so might as well live a life that takes advantage of that.

This might get a bit too crazy, but at a quantum level, reality doesn't really "exist" until you observe it. So, basically let's say an electron can be in many positions with different probabilities. The moment you observe it, it is exactly at one location. You can read about the double-slit experiment to have an idea of what I'm talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

So, in the same way, your attention creates your thoughts, which then are transformed into action in the real world. In a way, your attention defines your life, I think it's similar to the process of observing a particle, and therefore making it "real" from potential realities that it was before.

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

~snip~

It's not clear if we have free will, but at least we have the illusion that we have it, so might as well live a life that takes advantage of that.

This might get a bit too crazy, but at a quantum level, reality doesn't really "exist" until you observe it. So, basically let's say an electron can be in many positions with different probabilities. The moment you observe it, it is exactly at one location. You can read about the double-slit experiment to have an idea of what I'm talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

So, in the same way, your attention creates your thoughts, which then are transformed into action in the real world. In a way, your attention defines your life, I think it's similar to the process of observing a particle, and therefore making it "real" from potential realities that it was before.

Your post is very interesting to discuss and theories about reality and perception have been discussed in many open forums.

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there is research on how our thoughts and attention can shape our behavior patterns. Concepts such as a "self-fulfilling prophecy" indicate that our beliefs and expectations about what will happen can lead to behaviors that make those expectations come true.

This time what we are discussing is heavy gamblers, maybe it doesn't sound foreign that gambling addicts often act out with their bad behavior even though on several occasions our expectations can come true but do all the gambling activities that are carried out come true to be won?

Gambling addicts are often stuck with their own perceptions, they hope and believe they will continue to win in every gambling they do, but the fact is that it never happens for various reasons such as unstable emotions and others.

[piebeyb]

Gambling addicts are often stuck with their own perceptions, they hope and believe they will continue to win in every gambling they do, but the fact is that it never happens for various reasons such as unstable emotions and others.

We often see people like that where gambling addicts always feel confident that they believe they will get a big win that will return their previous money that has been lost, but that is clearly not going to happen, I was thinking why addicts are so eager to return their money who have lost and lost, even though they know that in gambling there is always a risk of losing money.

I think there is a lot of effort for the community here to stop addicts through this forum and they are always reminded about the dangers of gambling and avoiding addiction by playing wiser and more responsibly so they don't become addicts, because being an addict is difficult to recover from and sometimes they always have strange emotions. unstable and others, gambling must be responsible and unable to control emotions properly.

[ethereumhunter]

Gambling addicted people during gambling is not so keen on the process of gambling as thoughts of how to win because their desire to win over time becomes so obsessive that overshadows all other desires and reasonable inferences. I compare gambling addicts with sectarians, who also see nothing but their faith. Fortunately these problems are easily solved with the help of specialists, if only there was a desire. 

A gambling addict always thinks of ways to win the game because that makes them interested in gambling. But unfortunately, it won't always work because in gambling, there must be wins and losses and someone who gambles will experience defeat even if he doesn't realize that his loss can be even bigger. And if gambling addicts become more and more obsessive about winning, they won't do anything else because their only goal is to gamble and win.

And if they can realize their mistake and go to a specialist, there may still be hope for them to cure their gambling addiction. But that must be accompanied by a strong desire from the gambling addict to open himself up to accept the healing process of his gambling addiction. And when there is acceptance that he needs help from a specialist, that might just be the way to cure him and it might not take him long to cure his gambling addiction and all things gambling.

[klidex]

They lost their mind it because they will not think the possible outcome and also greediness is take over their peaceful mind so that they can not avoid what they are doing. Addicts didn't control their mind so what we saw is that gambling is acting not normal. That's why we called them that they will loss their mind cause all they want is to gamble and gamble and win without thinking the possible outcome.

Gambling addicts have different thoughts from normal gamblers who just want fun.
Risk is always thought of by every gambler whether he is a gambling addict or just a gambler who is not very active in gambling, for example a gambling addict always tries to get a win and they also still choose which game or bet has a big chance to be won and they too always avoid all kinds of games or bets that are difficult to win so anyone always has thoughts about risk, even if they are a crazy gambling addict.
The mistake of a gambling addict is only one, that is, they have a great desire to win by trying to spend all their money and forget everything including work or even their family while gambling.

I think it depends on what kind of gambling addict you mean?
Because not all gambling addicts think about winning, but there are also gambling addicts who become addicts just because they are too comfortable having fun at gambling and usually gambling addicts like this have a lot of money and don't care about money problems they think about fun.
So for me it all depends on what type of gambling addict they are and but in this aspect I agree that even though all types of gambling addicts they will definitely forget all the big risks they will receive in the long run because even though gambling addicts are very rich people, if continuosly spending large sums of money just to gamble I am sure they will go bankrupt.

[Shamm]

They lost their mind it because they will not think the possible outcome and also greediness is take over their peaceful mind so that they can not avoid what they are doing. Addicts didn't control their mind so what we saw is that gambling is acting not normal. That's why we called them that they will loss their mind cause all they want is to gamble and gamble and win without thinking the possible outcome.

Gambling addicts have different thoughts from normal gamblers who just want fun.
Risk is always thought of by every gambler whether he is a gambling addict or just a gambler who is not very active in gambling, for example a gambling addict always tries to get a win and they also still choose which game or bet has a big chance to be won and they too always avoid all kinds of games or bets that are difficult to win so anyone always has thoughts about risk, even if they are a crazy gambling addict.
The mistake of a gambling addict is only one, that is, they have a great desire to win by trying to spend all their money and forget everything including work or even their family while gambling.

I think it depends on what kind of gambling addict you mean?
Because not all gambling addicts think about winning, but there are also gambling addicts who become addicts just because they are too comfortable having fun at gambling and usually gambling addicts like this have a lot of money and don't care about money problems they think about fun.
So for me it all depends on what type of gambling addict they are and but in this aspect I agree that even though all types of gambling addicts they will definitely forget all the big risks they will receive in the long run because even though gambling addicts are very rich people, if continuosly spending large sums of money just to gamble I am sure they will go bankrupt.

There are many people got addicted to the game. And even though they are rich people then they can still getting poor once they will continue to gamble without controlling  themselves, and also we must think That once a man or a woman involve in gambling then all we can say is that there's a high chance of being addicted cause once they think that they can win a good amount then the more they will loss.

[LUCKMCFLY]

They lost their mind it because they will not think the possible outcome and also greediness is take over their peaceful mind so that they can not avoid what they are doing. Addicts didn't control their mind so what we saw is that gambling is acting not normal. That's why we called them that they will loss their mind cause all they want is to gamble and gamble and win without thinking the possible outcome.

Gambling addicts have different thoughts from normal gamblers who just want fun.
Risk is always thought of by every gambler whether he is a gambling addict or just a gambler who is not very active in gambling, for example a gambling addict always tries to get a win and they also still choose which game or bet has a big chance to be won and they too always avoid all kinds of games or bets that are difficult to win so anyone always has thoughts about risk, even if they are a crazy gambling addict.
The mistake of a gambling addict is only one, that is, they have a great desire to win by trying to spend all their money and forget everything including work or even their family while gambling.

I think it depends on what kind of gambling addict you mean?
Because not all gambling addicts think about winning, but there are also gambling addicts who become addicts just because they are too comfortable having fun at gambling and usually gambling addicts like this have a lot of money and don't care about money problems they think about fun.
So for me it all depends on what type of gambling addict they are and but in this aspect I agree that even though all types of gambling addicts they will definitely forget all the big risks they will receive in the long run because even though gambling addicts are very rich people, if continuosly spending large sums of money just to gamble I am sure they will go bankrupt.

There are many people got addicted to the game. And even though they are rich people then they can still getting poor once they will continue to gamble without controlling  themselves, and also we must think That once a man or a woman involve in gambling then all we can say is that there's a high chance of being addicted cause once they think that they can win a good amount then the more they will loss.

In this aspect they are absolutely right, because gambling addicts always do things so that they have enough options to earn, and it is as they have said, they forget about the expenses they have to make, their family, their children, those who are heads of the family care little about having some responsibility for what they have to spend for themselves, that is sad, because I consider that the most important thing is family and the people who are close to one, because without them we Simply, understand, we would have another type of life, something that goes in the other direction, that is what we would come across, but a person who has this type of problem has to get checked out by a psychologist or take advice from friends, I don't know what addiction be it for the casino or to drink alcohol, because I think that the one to drink alcohol can be spent less, on the other hand, in one casino at a time you can spend a considerable amount of money and being well aware, this is something that can occur.

Thinking about it now, when things began to get worse in the middle of the pandemic, it was because many people were left without work, and they decided to use casinos as an option to get quick money to cover the emergency, and of course, that was not the best Option , but a person who needs to pay for their food, will carry out Certain things, well I would say , if I risk 300usd or 400eur , well I can earn double and with that fixes the week or the month, something like that, that is why some people The play turned out well, some others did lose, but I think these things were the ones that opened things up so they could be more active in the casinos, and Obviously , this increased the number of users among the casinos , and I don't rule out the possibility that In those moments, some of the people would become addicted, others became addicted, these are figures that I do not know but it is very likely that it Occurred , because in a pandemic what was used was the internet and online Casinos.

[nullama]

~snip~
There are many people got addicted to the game. And even though they are rich people then they can still getting poor once they will continue to gamble without controlling  themselves, and also we must think That once a man or a woman involve in gambling then all we can say is that there's a high chance of being addicted cause once they think that they can win a good amount then the more they will loss.

Gambling pays a lot of money. All around the world, the selling of the hope to become a millionaire is ironically making all those hopeful gamblers poorer than before.

The only people that actually make money from gambling is the people that run the casinos, and maybe also the governments, depending on the countries and taxes, etc.

The people actually gambling are simply pouring all their savings into the hands of those two groups.