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September 24, 2023, 04:33:51 PM
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I think this goalkeeper needs some more time to get in better shape and the team should help him forget the mistake he made in the last game.
Yes, it is true, but people do not understand. Onana is really trying his best, but fans do not see him trying. They have to understand that no one is above mistakes, because sometimes failing comes before succeeding. Even yesterday's Onana performance was very good, for me Onana is better than De Gea.


So, if Erik ten Hag will still give confidence to play Onana in every match, then maybe over time Onana will also be able to get better. Because anyway, the concern is when the coach no longer gives Onana the opportunity to play more often, then this will certainly make Onana get a bad career later. But yes, it seems that at this moment Onana is still given good trust, so that way it is appropriate for Onana to continue to strive and work even harder to be able to improve his performance and quality as the main goalkeeper for Manchester United.

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September 24, 2023, 04:35:47 PM
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I think this goalkeeper needs some more time to get in better shape and the team should help him forget the mistake he made in the last game.
Yes, it is true, but people do not understand. Onana is really trying his best, but fans do not see him trying. They have to understand that no one is above mistakes, because sometimes failing comes before succeeding. Even yesterday's Onana performance was very good, for me Onana is better than De Gea.


People are always easy to judging him. Even some were also making comparison between him to the de gea while we know if onana was just coming last months. he needs more time in adapting to the club.
I lose my mind to see how people keep try to blame him. People forgot if manchester united has horrible defenders. The fans are somewhat on the delutional side once he expect onana to perform as perfect as they wanted.
Onana was just a new goal keeper from manchester united. He has been trying as fast as possible to deliver for manchester united.

It needs time for manchester united to go back at the top again. This club is not chelsea which is always going down and down.

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September 24, 2023, 05:14:03 PM
 #5363

Yes, it is true, but people do not understand. Onana is really trying his best, but fans do not see him trying. They have to understand that no one is above mistakes, because sometimes failing comes before succeeding. Even yesterday's Onana performance was very good, for me Onana is better than De Gea.
In fact, I will not make a comparison between these two goalkeepers because Onana is a new goalkeeper at Manchester United, while De Gea is a goalkeeper who has been active for twelve years at Manchester United so it is still not appropriate to make a comparison at this time. Although Manchester United fans really have to appreciate Onana's efforts in the matches that have passed at the start of this season because in the next match Onana will continue to contribute better to Manchester United.
It's definitely something that would be very important to handle, we need to end up with something that would be very difficult for Onana to get used to such a big club, at a such big league, and such important games with a terrible defense that everyone mocks. That's all reality, he came to a bigger club, bigger league and we have been mocking United defense (and especially Maguire) for years now.

It's normal for Onana to concede this many goals, look at their last game, they won 1-0, which means he had a clean sheet finally. I believe that it is going to take a while for him to get better, but we could definitely see him get better overtime, that's just how it works. I get that it is not all that easy, but given enough time, he will be good.

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September 24, 2023, 05:43:04 PM
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I must admit that PSG played decently. However I'm still not sure about their future in the Champions League. I mean we haven't watched them against a team playing strongly. Dortmund aren't one of these teams I'm afraid. They were struggling in the Bundesliga on the first weeks also. I expected such result from PSG as a result.

However when PSG face Milan two times in a row on match week 3 and 4 we can watch really interesting matches. The game quality would be at a much higher level than the Dortmund match too.

I really liked Milan's effort against Newcastle despite not managing to score the winning goal. They are very promising to advance to next round.
In my opinion, PSG is one of the favorites who has the opportunity to qualify for the round of 16 this season. In fact, everyone seems to agree that group F is one of the toughest groups compared to all the other groups, but this is about one match so none of us can guarantee who will advance to the next round.

If PSG can also beat Newcastle and Milan in the next match, then I think they will really seal their ticket to the round of 16 this season. I don't have any big doubts about PSG, but I hope they don't disappointing me in their next match.

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September 24, 2023, 05:49:32 PM
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I previously said here that we can not blame Onana and I think he is a great goalkeeper, its just that Man United defense failed to provide a wall against the opponent. now thinking realistically, a goalkeeper without a big wall being attacked several times will definitely have difficulty warding off the ball that comes towards him. lets take an example from several incidents in the past, such as a goalkeeper blocking the ball from falling and the opponent kicking the ball again but the defender strongly blocked the ball.

with this incident, are we still going to blame Onana? I am just a little annoyed that people only judge mistakes from one side without seeing the depth of the problem and Man United decision to recruit Onana was because it was acknowledged that he was a great goalkeeper and because De Gea had experienced a decline in performance, he was replaced with Onana.

Goalkeepers are divided into three types:
1.) Weak. Because of their mistakes, the team misses “extra” goals.
2.) Regular. They save what they should save but miss what they “should” miss. They don't do anything unusual and at this point the team doesn't earn any additional benefits.
3.) Strong. They save where they should, plus they additionally “do miracles” and save where ordinary goalkeepers miss goals. By the way, De Gea saved United in many games last year.
At the moment Onana belongs to the second category, and if he continues to make mistakes like in the game against Bayern he will move into the first. So far, I don’t see any options for moving him to the third category of top goalkeepers.

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September 24, 2023, 06:05:26 PM
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It is true that PSG has not been consistent enough in the domestic league, but when it comes to results in the Champions League, especially the group phase, they are always promising. The previous win against Dortmund can let them breathe a sigh of relief in this hellish group and I think it's just a matter of how they can continue to manage good results ahead of the next match. Talking about PSG, next week they will face Newcastle, who so far has not been stable and even though PSG will be away, I think they will still win if they appear with the same squad as against Dortmund.
After seeing the performance of each club in Group F, so far the competition has not been fully maximized or we are simply overthinking this group as a hellish group. Due to the fact that PSG could be said to be able to dominate, while AC Milan and Newcastle both had to share points in their first match. It will be a second chance for AC Milan and Newcastle if they are able to get points in the upcoming match.

The question is whether Newcastle can beat PSG and AC Milan can make Dortmund slump. Dortmund, who lost in the first match, will be more aggressive to achieve victory.
Yes, it is a little difficult to predict and determine which club will be superior in group F, whereas this group contains top clubs that compete competitively and it looks like the competition is very tight, even though PSG will be superior, AC Milan cannot be underestimated because The strength of the defensive line very strong and on one side Newcastle has an almost perfect attacker but is a little inconsistent in its defense and Dortmund has the worst performance among the other clubs in group F.
If I was just speculating, I would predict that PSG and AC Milan would lead Group F, so I have a chance for these two clubs to be superior in every bet I place.

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September 24, 2023, 06:42:19 PM
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Yes, it is a little difficult to predict and determine which club will be superior in group F, whereas this group contains top clubs that compete competitively and it looks like the competition is very tight, even though PSG will be superior, AC Milan cannot be underestimated because The strength of the defensive line very strong and on one side Newcastle has an almost perfect attacker but is a little inconsistent in its defense and Dortmund has the worst performance among the other clubs in group F.
If I was just speculating, I would predict that PSG and AC Milan would lead Group F, so I have a chance for these two clubs to be superior in every bet I place.
I think it's really difficult to predict, sometimes we are fooled by the performance shown in our respective domestic leagues. So far PSG and AC Milan are the favorites in Group F, but things could change if key players are absent from each club. I think the second match in the group phase will be very decisive, where the standings will start to form with the points scored. Looks like there will be a surprise in the next match, it will be interesting for later.

However, Group F deserves to be called the hell group, because both PSG, Milan, Dortmund and Newcastle have the same big chance of moving to the next stage.

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September 24, 2023, 06:54:24 PM
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In my opinion, PSG is one of the favorites who has the opportunity to qualify for the round of 16 this season. In fact, everyone seems to agree that group F is one of the toughest groups compared to all the other groups, but this is about one match so none of us can guarantee who will advance to the next round.

If PSG can also beat Newcastle and Milan in the next match, then I think they will really seal their ticket to the round of 16 this season. I don't have any big doubts about PSG, but I hope they don't disappointing me in their next match.

If I refer to the Milan vs Newcastle match, the match was not that interesting. So, temporary conclusion, PSG should be able to beat Newcastle both away and at home. Anyway, this is only a temporary analysis, we don't know what will happen in the match later. Talking about Newcastle, they didn't do many dangerous things when they played against Milan. It could be that they still have stage fever, because they have been absent from this competition for so long. It could be, because the Newcastle players don't have much experience in this competition.

So, PSG should be able to beat them in the next meeting. Likewise, when PSG met Milan, PSG played better. Plus, there is Mbappe who is a dangerous player when he is in the opposing team's defense area. At least, PSG has a better chance of qualifying for the next round. they just need to appear consistent, and Enrique must always improve the system he applies to his squad. because PSG have not found a good grip on their game throughout the matches they have played. Apart from that, the big question for me is whether Milan will be able to get through this group phase. although they also have a chance for that. However, it seems that it takes hard work to make it happen.


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September 24, 2023, 07:50:05 PM
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In my opinion, PSG is one of the favorites who has the opportunity to qualify for the round of 16 this season. In fact, everyone seems to agree that group F is one of the toughest groups compared to all the other groups, but this is about one match so none of us can guarantee who will advance to the next round.

If PSG can also beat Newcastle and Milan in the next match, then I think they will really seal their ticket to the round of 16 this season. I don't have any big doubts about PSG, but I hope they don't disappointing me in their next match.
Luis Enrique will prepared his team for the tough games ahead, it's not going to be easy run for them, perhaps they will fight for a spot to qualify because they're elite club and have good chances to scale through, after they won their first game. PSG accumulate three points after thrashing Borrusia Dortmund 2 nil in UCL first leg. The Parisians are first in their group, they will face Newcastle United in their next game, definitely going to be tough because PSG doesn't have good records concerning EPL clubs in UEFA Champions League. The magpies will hosts Parisians at St James Park, let's wait till the present day.

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September 24, 2023, 09:09:33 PM
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In my opinion, PSG is one of the favorites who has the opportunity to qualify for the round of 16 this season. In fact, everyone seems to agree that group F is one of the toughest groups compared to all the other groups, but this is about one match so none of us can guarantee who will advance to the next round.

If PSG can also beat Newcastle and Milan in the next match, then I think they will really seal their ticket to the round of 16 this season. I don't have any big doubts about PSG, but I hope they don't disappointing me in their next match.

If I refer to the Milan vs Newcastle match, the match was not that interesting. So, temporary conclusion, PSG should be able to beat Newcastle both away and at home. Anyway, this is only a temporary analysis, we don't know what will happen in the match later. Talking about Newcastle, they didn't do many dangerous things when they played against Milan. It could be that they still have stage fever, because they have been absent from this competition for so long. It could be, because the Newcastle players don't have much experience in this competition.

So, PSG should be able to beat them in the next meeting. Likewise, when PSG met Milan, PSG played better. Plus, there is Mbappe who is a dangerous player when he is in the opposing team's defense area. At least, PSG has a better chance of qualifying for the next round. they just need to appear consistent, and Enrique must always improve the system he applies to his squad. because PSG have not found a good grip on their game throughout the matches they have played. Apart from that, the big question for me is whether Milan will be able to get through this group phase. although they also have a chance for that. However, it seems that it takes hard work to make it happen.


Regarding the game between Newcastle and AC Milan, both teams had bad performances and since AC Milan is not in good form I could predict see this performance from them but this Newcastlewe see in this season is far from what we saw in the last season and they not performing well at all.
Even Vidal said this game was not a good game and he said Newcastle was disgusting.



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September 25, 2023, 04:06:30 AM
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In my opinion, PSG is one of the favorites who has the opportunity to qualify for the round of 16 this season. In fact, everyone seems to agree that group F is one of the toughest groups compared to all the other groups, but this is about one match so none of us can guarantee who will advance to the next round.

If PSG can also beat Newcastle and Milan in the next match, then I think they will really seal their ticket to the round of 16 this season. I don't have any big doubts about PSG, but I hope they don't disappointing me in their next match.

If I refer to the Milan vs Newcastle match, the match was not that interesting. So, temporary conclusion, PSG should be able to beat Newcastle both away and at home. Anyway, this is only a temporary analysis, we don't know what will happen in the match later. Talking about Newcastle, they didn't do many dangerous things when they played against Milan. It could be that they still have stage fever, because they have been absent from this competition for so long. It could be, because the Newcastle players don't have much experience in this competition.

So, PSG should be able to beat them in the next meeting. Likewise, when PSG met Milan, PSG played better. Plus, there is Mbappe who is a dangerous player when he is in the opposing team's defense area. At least, PSG has a better chance of qualifying for the next round. they just need to appear consistent, and Enrique must always improve the system he applies to his squad. because PSG have not found a good grip on their game throughout the matches they have played. Apart from that, the big question for me is whether Milan will be able to get through this group phase. although they also have a chance for that. However, it seems that it takes hard work to make it happen.


when we speculate it might seem very easy to say that PSG still has a mainstay player like Mbappe who is able to strengthen the attack line to destroy the opponent defense but in fact it difficult to be sure because in this group PSG has to really work hard to lead this group because Enrique is also not convincing enough in terms of experience, but from my observation, Milan and Newcastle will be strong competitors for PSG and even though we have to act carefully, we must always remember that Milan and Newcastle playing style is almost the same, when they have gaps they will carry out fast attacks and this must be prepared by Enrique should not chase too big a score but just have a few more superior scores and then strengthen his defense to secure the winning score until the end match.

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September 25, 2023, 07:51:13 AM
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It is true that PSG has not been consistent enough in the domestic league, but when it comes to results in the Champions League, especially the group phase, they are always promising. The previous win against Dortmund can let them breathe a sigh of relief in this hellish group and I think it's just a matter of how they can continue to manage good results ahead of the next match. Talking about PSG, next week they will face Newcastle, who so far has not been stable and even though PSG will be away, I think they will still win if they appear with the same squad as against Dortmund.
After seeing the performance of each club in Group F, so far the competition has not been fully maximized or we are simply overthinking this group as a hellish group. Due to the fact that PSG could be said to be able to dominate, while AC Milan and Newcastle both had to share points in their first match. It will be a second chance for AC Milan and Newcastle if they are able to get points in the upcoming match.

The question is whether Newcastle can beat PSG and AC Milan can make Dortmund slump. Dortmund, who lost in the first match, will be more aggressive to achieve victory.
It seems that it will still be quite difficult for Newcastle to beat several teams in Group F, but it also does not rule out the possibility that they can surprise many parties. I think Newcastle has not yet returned to its performance last season in the domestic league but slowly they will find it again soon. It's just a matter of how they continue to correct previous mistakes and of course this is a very difficult task for Eddie Howie as Newcastle coach who succeeded in bringing them to the Champions League competition this season.

However, in Group F, Newcastle is indeed the underdog team and for other teams that have not faced Newcastle, such as PSG or Dortmund, they should not be careless because after all they can hold Milan to a draw in the opening meeting and of course still have the opportunity to beat Milan in the home match later.
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September 25, 2023, 08:05:35 AM
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when we speculate it might seem very easy to say that PSG still has a mainstay player like Mbappe who is able to strengthen the attack line to destroy the opponent defense but in fact it difficult to be sure because in this group PSG has to really work hard to lead this group because Enrique is also not convincing enough in terms of experience, but from my observation, Milan and Newcastle will be strong competitors for PSG and even though we have to act carefully, we must always remember that Milan and Newcastle playing style is almost the same, when they have gaps they will carry out fast attacks and this must be prepared by Enrique should not chase too big a score but just have a few more superior scores and then strengthen his defense to secure the winning score until the end match.
Newcastle is considered a dark horse in Group F and although in terms of experience it is not much better than PSG, Milan and Dortmund, if you look at the productivity of scoring goals in the domestic league, Newcastle is much better than these two competitors. These three clubs must be really wary of the surprises that Newcastle will give and currently only PSG have collected three points while the other teams have only collected one point. Dortmund is a little more threatened because they haven't got any points and their next match is against Milan at home.

If Newcastle is able to get points against PSG then Newcastle has a good chance of qualifying for the next round. Newcastle has the ability to launch fast attacks and PSG must be aware of this if they don't want to lose points in the next match, especially since the match will take place at Newcastle's home ground.
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September 25, 2023, 08:09:28 AM
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In my opinion, PSG is one of the favorites who has the opportunity to qualify for the round of 16 this season. In fact, everyone seems to agree that group F is one of the toughest groups compared to all the other groups, but this is about one match so none of us can guarantee who will advance to the next round.

If PSG can also beat Newcastle and Milan in the next match, then I think they will really seal their ticket to the round of 16 this season. I don't have any big doubts about PSG, but I hope they don't disappointing me in their next match.
Luis Enrique will prepared his team for the tough games ahead, it's not going to be easy run for them, perhaps they will fight for a spot to qualify because they're elite club and have good chances to scale through, after they won their first game. PSG accumulate three points after thrashing Borrusia Dortmund 2 nil in UCL first leg. The Parisians are first in their group, they will face Newcastle United in their next game, definitely going to be tough because PSG doesn't have good records concerning EPL clubs in UEFA Champions League. The magpies will hosts Parisians at St James Park, let's wait till the present day.


PSG lost many players this summer and this team changed a lot that's why we can see in the French League, that PSG is not in a good situation. We know they spent lots of money this summer but still, this cannot be the reason to say PSG can pass the grouping stage because the other teams like AC Milan and Newcastle are just not in good form but they can get back in shape and all the all three teams very strong opponents for PSG.

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September 25, 2023, 08:51:04 AM
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PSG lost many players this summer and this team changed a lot that's why we can see in the French League, that PSG is not in a good situation. We know they spent lots of money this summer but still, this cannot be the reason to say PSG can pass the grouping stage because the other teams like AC Milan and Newcastle are just not in good form but they can get back in shape and all the all three teams very strong opponents for PSG.


In the last few seasons, PSG has become a club that has spent a lot of money by buying players at high prices with the aim of getting the UCL title. Unfortunately, they failed to get it. They are the only club that can win the domestic league. In my opinion, PSG was too hasty to change coaches. There are several names who might be able to provide the UCL trophy for PSG if they are willing to retain the coach in this era:
- Carlo Ancelotti
- Laurent Blanc
- Thomas Tuchel
these coaches can give the UCL trophy if PSG can be patient and maintain it for more than 3 seasons.

This season, they may be the luckiest, because they are in the same group with Newcastle, Milan and Dortmund. They should have a better chance of qualifying from the group stage. Meanwhile, Milan is very dependent on the matches vs Newcastle & Dortmund. Milan has lost 2 points already, if Milan has to lose another point against Dortmund, I think the chances will be smaller. PSG may don't need to playing all out to win, because they are the strongest team on this group. But, everything can be happens.

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September 25, 2023, 09:02:14 AM
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Real Madrid must have found out how bad they were against Manchester City. They will really need to make a big improvement for next season. They need to stay strong in offense and defense both. Manchester City just tore their defense apart in the second leg. Now Benzema has left the team people are wondering who will be filling his space in the team.

Real Madrid should make their investment in the right way to become much more competitive in the Champions League again. They can actually make some adjustments in the defense line as well. Because I found the defenders quite desperate against Manchester City attackers.

Actually, Real Madrid played a very poor game last season against Manchester City in the champions league and laliga league, Manchester City were in good form last season, winning the EPL and the champions league, I don't think Madrid will go founder in the champions league because they don't have a good striker that can help the team weller Ancelotti should leave the club if he is not helping again before the transfer window closes. Ancelotti stated that he does not require any strikers at this time. Madrid would suffer first before scoring a goal in the league or the Champions League if it is not for Bellingham who is assisting Real Madrid.

Since Benzema left Real Madrid, I know the team will suffer for the rest of the season because Ancelotti did not sign a good striker to help the team, carvaja is injured, and Vini jr is injury too, In the champions league competition, even if Real Madrid qualify to the round of 16, I believe they will be eliminated because they will face a strong team in the round of 16, but anything can happen if Ancelotti changes is statist of playing.

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September 25, 2023, 09:35:29 AM
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PSG lost many players this summer and this team changed a lot that's why we can see in the French League, that PSG is not in a good situation. We know they spent lots of money this summer but still, this cannot be the reason to say PSG can pass the grouping stage because the other teams like AC Milan and Newcastle are just not in good form but they can get back in shape and all the all three teams very strong opponents for PSG.
It will always be quite exciting to watch the matches in Group F because the four teams there are the best teams even though PSG is not much better than last season if judged from their performance in their domestic league this season. However, in the Champions League, PSG can also return to being fit and strong like the other three teams, so the chance of PSG qualifying for the next round is still not lost. Likewise with the other three teams, although I am not sure about Dortmund's strength in Group F.
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September 25, 2023, 09:37:11 AM
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Regarding the game between Newcastle and AC Milan, both teams had bad performances and since AC Milan is not in good form I could predict see this performance from them but this Newcastlewe see in this season is far from what we saw in the last season and they not performing well at all.
Even Vidal said this game was not a good game and he said Newcastle was disgusting.

Newcastle has a solid performance against intermilan. If you are still taking what vidal said and that's bullshit man. Vidal was acmilan haters caused by he has been playing for acmilan's competitor (Intermilan & juventus).
You will never ever see him to praise acmilan. It's bullshit to see him said like that. His comment was even disgusting than the game between newcastle vs milan.

Newcastle was trying so hard to defend its club from any attack that was coming from its opponent. I see nothing wrong with it. Acmilan was attacking newcastle like crazy. Newcastle's goal keeper should become man of the match during that game as he made a bunch of great saves.
I think that howe knew what was his fault and he is trying to make sure his club will able to perform better once newcastle will face PSG very soon.
I can't even wait to see mbappe play in the st james park. Newcastle is not yet using all of its potential.

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September 25, 2023, 09:48:04 AM
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It will always be quite exciting to watch the matches in Group F because the four teams there are the best teams even though PSG is not much better than last season if judged from their performance in their domestic league this season. However, in the Champions League, PSG can also return to being fit and strong like the other three teams, so the chance of PSG qualifying for the next round is still not lost. Likewise with the other three teams, although I am not sure about Dortmund's strength in Group F.
PSG is gradually gaining shape and at the moment they are the leaders of Group F, so their chances are very good. Their opponents are worthy and PSG may well lose points in away matches, even Newcastle, which went through a series of losses, seems to have found its game again and is ready to move on. I think that in Group F, PSG have the best chance of leaving the group in first place, and I have no idea who can join them, everyone still has equal chances.

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September 25, 2023, 10:59:09 AM
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Regarding the game between Newcastle and AC Milan, both teams had bad performances and since AC Milan is not in good form I could predict see this performance from them but this Newcastlewe see in this season is far from what we saw in the last season and they not performing well at all.
Even Vidal said this game was not a good game and he said Newcastle was disgusting.



https://talksport.com/football/1575281/arturo-vidal-newcastle-disgusting-champions-league-ac-milan/

IMO, it's not just their appearance that's bad. but Pioli really hasn't changed their style of play much, the same as last season. Likewise with Eddie Howe, I often said it in previous posts. If he doesn't change his system, then they will have difficulty playing match after match in various competitions. and it has been proven, Newcastle players have difficulty scoring goals in both the Premier League and Champions League.

As for Newcastle last season, it was a coincidence that their players were quite productive in terms of scoring goals. but we can see this season, the system implemented by Eddie Howe is not working at all.
Just like Milan in the 2021-2022 season which won the Scudetto, but the system they implemented in the following seasons is outdated and no longer effective. But at least Milan still has a chance to qualify for the next round, but it won't be easy. Well, what about Newcastle, will they be able to overthrow PSG with the same style of play. In fact, I quite doubt it. Nevertheless, we just follow it because football is unique and sometimes every result can be beyond our predictions.

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