⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Sunderland]

The Premier League will most likely get 1 additional spot for the Champions League next season, depending on the achievements of the English clubs in all European competitions this season.
So the 5th position in the league shall join in the Champions League and the 6th position in the Europa League.
Manutd still has a big chance to take part in European competitions, because England has 5 clubs competing in all European competitions now.

With the new format, it will indeed be very possible if the EPL team does that it's just that for now I see is what if in the end there are new format rules when adding Champions League slots but this season Liverpool who are in competition in the EPL for the championship race (systematically in the top 4) and they become champions in the Europa Legaue because they are now competing in the quarter-finals and the big chance of winning is still very much there for now.

When the automatic slot for the Europa League champion (if Liverpool wins) whether there will indeed be additions from other clubs or not because in the end we can see it even become 6 slots if the new rules are 5 EPL clusters in the Champions League as well as the Europa League champion who is automatically included in the Champions League the following season.

Is this also possible or are only 5 slots still used?
Because if it is only 5 slots, I think all leagues are still possible, especially for last season we saw in La Liga who got 5 slots and the previous 2 seasons there were clubs from the Bundesliga who got it.

UEFA associations club coefficients ranking:
Italy 17.714 points
Germany 16.357 points
England 16.250 points

The 2 countries with the highest points will get 1 additional spot for the Champions League next season.
Currently there are 5 clubs from the Premier League still competing in all European competitions, while there are only 3 from Bundesliga.

UEFA rules only allow a maximum of 5 clubs from each country to compete in the Champions League, but these rules do not apply if,
For example: Mancity won the Champions League but their position in the league at the end of the season was ranked 7th (1st to 5th UCL and 6th EL),
then there will be 6 representatives from the Premier League to join the Champions League next season including Mancity.
And if Mancity win the Champions League, and they finish in the top 5 (league) = England representatives will still be 5.

And if Liverpool wins the Europa League, it will be considered the same as the Mancity case above.
Because Liverpool will almost certainly be in the top 4 in the league at the end of the season.
So, it is still possible for 7 clubs from England to take part in the Champions League if Mancity wins UCL, Liverpool wins EL and both of the teams are not ranked in the top 5 (league)

[Velvet78]

Erik Ten Hag or Roberto De Zebri would do grand. But how good is Zebri if he handles a top club like Manchester United?

Yeah I have doubts about how capable De Zerbi would be about managing a much bigger team in the Premier League. He is shown as a candidate for Liverpool's next manager at the same time. However Brighton are the first team he is managing in this league now. Before this job the biggest team he managed was Shakhtar Donetsk.

Manchester United and Liverpool both had better be diligent about their next choices to not regret for that later on. There should definitely be better choices than De Zerbi for these teams as well.

[Awaklara]

Erik Ten Hag or Roberto De Zebri would do grand. But how good is Zebri if he handles a top club like Manchester United?

Yeah I have doubts about how capable De Zerbi would be about managing a much bigger team in the Premier League. He is shown as a candidate for Liverpool's next manager at the same time. However Brighton are the first team he is managing in this league now. Before this job the biggest team he managed was Shakhtar Donetsk.

Manchester United and Liverpool both had better be diligent about their next choices to not regret for that later on. There should definitely be better choices than De Zerbi for these teams as well.

MU or Liverpool should be able to get a coach with a better name and experience. if not maybe next season they will only have difficulty competing with City or Arsenal.
De Zerbi might be an alternative for Liverpool because there has been recognition from Xabi that he wants to stay at Leverkusen. We previously knew that Liverpool also seemed interested in Xabi because of his achievements which have brought extraordinary improvements to Leverkusen.

[makishart]

Erik Ten Hag or Roberto De Zebri would do grand. But how good is Zebri if he handles a top club like Manchester United?

Yeah I have doubts about how capable De Zerbi would be about managing a much bigger team in the Premier League. He is shown as a candidate for Liverpool's next manager at the same time. However Brighton are the first team he is managing in this league now. Before this job the biggest team he managed was Shakhtar Donetsk.

I believe Zerbi is capable  enoughof handling the big club if he can lead Brighton to the top four, but if they finish even lower than they did last season, and he is not worth signing as a new coach by the big club. I'd rather not call him an overrated coach.
I must be honest with my opinion, but let us wait until the end of the season to see how well he is performing at the club right now. I'm thinking that Liverpool should look for someone who can help the club win a lot of trophies.
Zerbi's history of winning prestigious trophies remains zero. I'd rather take Mourinho or Conte than him.

Manchester United and Liverpool both had better be diligent about their next choices to not regret for that later on. There should definitely be better choices than De Zerbi for these teams as well.

It would be far better for United to sign Allegri or Conte, and the club could also bring back Mourinho, who has previously won the Europa League.
De zerbi is a ridiculous choice that was also overrated. I never thought he had accomplished anything great, and all of the positive comments about him were completely out of proportion.

[Farma]

Erik Ten Hag or Roberto De Zebri would do grand. But how good is Zebri if he handles a top club like Manchester United?

Yeah I have doubts about how capable De Zerbi would be about managing a much bigger team in the Premier League. He is shown as a candidate for Liverpool's next manager at the same time. However Brighton are the first team he is managing in this league now. Before this job the biggest team he managed was Shakhtar Donetsk.

Manchester United and Liverpool both had better be diligent about their next choices to not regret for that later on. There should definitely be better choices than De Zerbi for these teams as well.

MU or Liverpool should be able to get a coach with a better name and experience. if not maybe next season they will only have difficulty competing with City or Arsenal.
De Zerbi might be an alternative for Liverpool because there has been recognition from Xabi that he wants to stay at Leverkusen. We previously knew that Liverpool also seemed interested in Xabi because of his achievements which have brought extraordinary improvements to Leverkusen.

It is difficult for a coach to be able to maintain or make a team even better for a team as big as Liverpool.
For example, Manchester United, which was promoted by Alex Furguson, has so far not been able to bring the team back to its previous performance even though they have had to change coaches a lot.
So it is also possible for Liverpool to do that, I am quite pessimistic that there will be a coach who will be able to make Liverpool maintain performance stability or be better than this season for the first season of coaching.

Xabi Alonso has confirmed that he will stay with Leverkusen next season, which means Liverpool must hire another coach.
De Zerbi is a good coach, but I doubt he can handle a top team, because that hasn't been proven.

[ILuckyGuyI]

We are talking about the possibility of the Premier League to have an extra quota for the Champions League next season. But still the interesting part is the total number of CL titles achieve by English teams is like the same as Real Madrid's winning number. 

This shows that PL teams aren't the most successful ones despite playing in the most prestigious European league according to statistics. I don't know this additional quota would help change this data for their advantage either. But one thing is sure that they will be more dominant in numbers in the group stage compared to other European leagues in this case. There is nothing guaranteed yet though. Let's see if they can earn this first.

[Onyeeze]

Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley, the first goal with penalty and by right they suppose to protect the first goal by playing a defensive game, even when Burnley equalise the match to be 1:1 and they score again to be 2:1, everyone taught that Chelsea have defeated Burnley but they could not defend the second goal. So the problem is the players, I think they need keeper and more players.

[X-ray]

Yep apart from Mancity, Aston also still has to face Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Brighton at home. And it looks like they might lose many points from these matches.
Meanwhile for Tottenham, they also still have to play against Chelsea, Mancity, Newcastle, Arsenal and Liverpool.
Manutd clearly still has a chance to be in the top 4 of the league at the end of this season, as long they dont waste any more points against relatively weaker teams.

United also still have tough games against Newcastle, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. Tottenham still has 1 match left against City and United will only face mediocre teams. I think United will have to work hard if they want to get fourth place. They are 6 points behind Tottenham and 9 points behind Aston Villa. They also still have some tough games ahead. I think position 4 will be a competition between Tottenham and Aston Villa. United's chances are very small. It looks like they will not play in international competitions next season.

But united's chance to qualify for the UCL is getting even bigger since EPL got additional spot to participate in the UCL next season. Let's say that if there will be around 5 candidates to be eligible for the UCL next season only from premier league. It means that if manchester united has greater chance to make it happen.
United will be able to pass all of those fixtures. I see that Chelsea and Newcastle are not even better compared to Manchester United. I meant if it's not yet clear which league will get it. I saw that the EPL was qualifying for the additional spot for UCL, but it changed again.
I can't also predict before we see the final result how many points were acquired by any European competitions. Manchester united's chance will be slightly higher to qualify for UCL if EPL will get additional spot.
This totally depends on the result from the current season

[Alpha Marine]

We are talking about the possibility of the Premier League to have an extra quota for the Champions League next season. But still the interesting part is the total number of CL titles achieve by English teams is like the same as Real Madrid's winning number. 

The premier league is not as tough as many of the fans believe it to be. Before Pep and Klopp, the premier league was filled with teams of the same level and that's why it looked very competitive.
When Pep came he exposed the league a lot. Many people may argue with this but the fact is the fact. This is Pep's 8th season in the EPL and in those 7 years his team has won the EPL 5 times, losing it only twice and he still has a chance of winning it again this season.
We can all see that the moment a manager knows what he's doing he owns the league. The premier league is not all that, it just has a better PR. I can agree that it's a better-managed league too and they have more money, that's why you can see teams going from teams like Milan to Nottingham Forest, or from Sevilla to Newcastle.

The thing is most people that watch the EPL don't watch other leagues, so they run with the narrative that the EPL is the best league in the world. The two biggest teams in the world are Real Madrid and Barcelona, not English teams.

The EPL is known for it's "Big 6", but is there really a Big 6 though?
Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, Tottenham, Chelsea.
What is big about Tottenham and Arsenal? If these clubs were in any league that was not the EPL would they be rated as big clubs?

[Xxmodded]

We are talking about the possibility of the Premier League to have an extra quota for the Champions League next season. But still the interesting part is the total number of CL titles achieve by English teams is like the same as Real Madrid's winning number. 

This shows that PL teams aren't the most successful ones despite playing in the most prestigious European league according to statistics. I don't know this additional quota would help change this data for their advantage either. But one thing is sure that they will be more dominant in numbers in the group stage compared to other European leagues in this case. There is nothing guaranteed yet though. Let's see if they can earn this first.

I don't sure Premier League will have an extra quota for Champion League next season, although become more interested league the quota for UCL depend on their teams performance in champion league.
What for premier league become most compete league if their participants easily eliminated in group phase such as Manchester United and Newcastle United performance in this season.
I think its ideal with four teams participants or quota for premier league team qualify to champion league, if the teams participants has inconsistency performance get chance to reduce four teams quota become three teams in the future regarding Serie A has moment with three participants having playing in Champion League.

[Palakka]

MU or Liverpool should be able to get a coach with a better name and experience. if not maybe next season they will only have difficulty competing with City or Arsenal.
De Zerbi might be an alternative for Liverpool because there has been recognition from Xabi that he wants to stay at Leverkusen. We previously knew that Liverpool also seemed interested in Xabi because of his achievements which have brought extraordinary improvements to Leverkusen.

After Xabi Alonso confirmed his stay at Leverkusen next season, of course, it closes all possibilities that exist for any team to sign Xabi Alonso next season, Liverpool are certainly in a high dilemma after previously Klopp stated this season is his last season at Liverpool, so far we have not seen any new coach candidate who is indeed the most ideal to coach Liverpool next season,   Apart from the speculation that continues to be created by the media without any confirmation from Liverpool.

Currently the media continues to link Ruben Amorim (sporting), Thiago Motta (Bologna), Roberto De Zerbi (Brighton), Unai Emery (Aston Villa) and even so far there are 12 names of coaches who are predicted by the media to be able to replace Klopp next season, but from the names of the existing names, of course I will personally choose Unai Emery to be Liverpool coach next season,  Because after all, Unai Emery has good experience in building teams so far, yes, maybe Aston Villa is starting to fall at this time because of their inconsistency which contains makeshift players, but I think if Unai Emery can coach a team like Liverpool that contains great players, of course Unai Emery will be able to continue Klopp glory later in Liverpool.

[Josefjix]

Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley, the first goal with penalty and by right they suppose to protect the first goal by playing a defensive game, even when Burnley equalise the match to be 1:1 and they score again to be 2:1, everyone taught that Chelsea have defeated Burnley but they could not defend the second goal. So the problem is the players, I think they need keeper and more players.

Vincent Kompany was sent off and he's absence didn't matter, instead his team was possibly confident to play the Blues. I'm tiring of tendering my complaints to the team's board and on their verified social media platforms. Chelsea performance is humiliating and I don't fancy the style Mauricio Pochettino is bringing. One of the terrible performance was today's game at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea failed to beat 10 men on the pitch, instead the Blues was even lucky to not concede another goal because I've watch closely and see the thorough details.

[Cryptoprincess101]

Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley, the first goal with penalty and by right they suppose to protect the first goal by playing a defensive game, even when Burnley equalise the match to be 1:1 and they score again to be 2:1, everyone taught that Chelsea have defeated Burnley but they could not defend the second goal. So the problem is the players, I think they need keeper and more players.

Vincent Kompany was sent off and he's absence didn't matter, instead his team was possibly confident to play the Blues. I'm tiring of tendering my complaints to the team's board and on their verified social media platforms. Chelsea performance is humiliating and I don't fancy the style Mauricio Pochettino is bringing. One of the terrible performance was today's game at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea failed to beat 10 men on the pitch, instead the Blues was even lucky to not concede another goal because I've watch closely and see the thorough details.

Your comment made me laugh hard this night for saying you are tired of laying complains to their verified social media accounts but on a more serious note, this game against Burnley is one of the worst game of Chelsea because imagine 10 men Burnley giving Chelsea a hard time it's really so funny I must say. I don't think Pochettino can handle Chelsea anymore they really need a new coach to take over the managerial role if things can work in a different perspective for the club because watching them play today is really devastating.

[QueenVera]

The quality and performance of Liverpool at this time we cannot doubt even though they previously continued to be hit by a storm of injuries including having to lose Salah, but in fact Liverpool were able to rise and now only Only the goal difference that separates the Reds from Arsenal in the Premier League standings, Klopp's ability to see the position of players and place them in other positions so far has helped Liverpool to continue to compete for the EPL trophy along with Arsenal and Manchester City, this season Liverpool deserve not to be underestimated because when 10 of their players are injured but they can still continue to compete in the championship, I think if that many injuries had happened to Arsenal and Manchester City of course we would see them out of the top 4 at this time.

Arsenal did have a pretty good performance and so far they are still stable in winning, but what you say is quite true because indeed Arteta has not really been able to raise the mentality of the Arsenal players at the moment, although now Arsenal are at the top of the table but as usual we will only see Arsenal end up in 2nd and 3rd position in end season, while to get the champion is still very difficult for them as happened last season.

Liverpool team have yes been hit with injury most of the time this season and you start to think that they’re not able to win the league but that’s going to be one hell of a dream. Yes this Liverpool  squad despite facing crazy injuries to major players, they still boast of a strong squad with quality depth in various positions as their backup players have proven to be trustworthy and reliable. Klopp is a tactical genius and his tactical acumen and ability to adapt his strategies to cope with the injury woes.

 ⁠Liverpool’s success will be majorly dependent on the form of the players when they return from injury. Yes and when you compare them and the other 2 clubs, you see that Liverpool have more advantage than being compared to the others as they have leas competitive fixture in this their final 10 fixtures.

 ⁠Arsenal are yes looking like they can be able to win the league but when compared to City and Liverpool I obviously think Arsenal will be finishing 3rd because they have a major challenge which will be defeating City and then they need to be able to fo past Chelsea and Spurs then Man United. These matches will be crucial for Arsenal to be able to get victory and I don’t think it can be a reality.

 ⁠Facing reality I think Arsenal would finish 3rd as Man City would be able to defeat them tomorrow and that’ll be Arsenal dropping to 3rd place. They don’t have the high mentality yet and they might not be able to defeat clubs like Liverpool and City who have high mentality.

[shinratensei_]

Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley, the first goal with penalty and by right they suppose to protect the first goal by playing a defensive game, even when Burnley equalise the match to be 1:1 and they score again to be 2:1, everyone taught that Chelsea have defeated Burnley but they could not defend the second goal. So the problem is the players, I think they need keeper and more players.

What ever formation used by the team wouldn't matter a lot. Don't you see the gameplay of chelsea? it has no pattern at all and chelsea was randomly playing to attack its opponent which is also only playing with 10 players. The stupid things showed by chelsea when it was always conceded goals several minutes after the blues was scoring in this game.
Perhaps, chelsea was losing all of their focus and this is also the reason why the club played like a shitty club. To be honest, this stupid mistake can't be tolerated. Things were also even worse when stupid pochettino once again did the same mistake by allowing chalobach to enter the game.

It was also making the club concede another goal, which is the worst thing that I have ever seen. It seemed to me that if Chelsea defenders are so poor at dueling in the air, things are going even worse for Chelsea when it was trying so hard to win the game but failed.
There's nothing good in the way chelsea's playing the game. It's only showing another degrade which was also very bad for the club. The team is horrible, the coach is horrible, everything in chelsea is terrible to watch.

There is no doubt that supporters showed their disappointment by booing Poch and his players at the end of the game. Chelsea could not beat 10-man Burnley, which is a shame. We're bottled it, we're bottled job. The way chelsea playes the game is pretty much the same like the gameplay of burnley itself.
These clubs are in the same level at this moment.

[Ryu_Ar1]

⁠Facing reality I think Arsenal would finish 3rd as Man City would be able to defeat them tomorrow and that’ll be Arsenal dropping to 3rd place. They don’t have the high mentality yet and they might not be able to defeat clubs like Liverpool and City who have high mentality.

For tomorrow's match it is still a situation where both clubs have a chance to win and even I have a different view because in my opinion Arsenal could excel in this match even though they are playing away.
Currently several Manchester City defenders such as Kyle Walker, Akanji and Stones are likely to be unable to play in this match not to mention Ederson's injury for the main goalkeeper is still another problem for Manchester City.

Although we know the depth of the Manchester City squad is very good but still it can greatly interfere with their performance when the core players cannot be played and that could be a problem that occurs in tomorrow's match.

Arsenal are currently in good momentum and in good motivation to get points so with the absence of several Manchester City players for tomorrow's match it is certain that it will be maximized by Arsenal at this time especially in terms of their squad now more complex because their players (other than Timber) can be played.

[Issa56]

Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley

I think Pochettino is just kind of confused right now. Chelsea had the opportunity to win the match. Burnley received two red cards in the match, one was for their coach, and the other was for their player. They should have made use of the opportunity that they had, but they missed it. I never expected Chelsea to draw today's match. I expected the match to be an easy win for Chelsea, but they couldn’t win the match, all they had was a draw. Burnley played an intelligent game in the match, immediately they equalised, and the match was 1.1. Burnley started playing a defensive game in the match, they didn’t give Chelsea breathing space in their defense, which really helped them.

[macson]

Erik Ten Hag or Roberto De Zebri would do grand. But how good is Zebri if he handles a top club like Manchester United?

Yeah I have doubts about how capable De Zerbi would be about managing a much bigger team in the Premier League. He is shown as a candidate for Liverpool's next manager at the same time. However Brighton are the first team he is managing in this league now. Before this job the biggest team he managed was Shakhtar Donetsk.

Manchester United and Liverpool both had better be diligent about their next choices to not regret for that later on. There should definitely be better choices than De Zerbi for these teams as well.

MU or Liverpool should be able to get a coach with a better name and experience. if not maybe next season they will only have difficulty competing with City or Arsenal.
De Zerbi might be an alternative for Liverpool because there has been recognition from Xabi that he wants to stay at Leverkusen. We previously knew that Liverpool also seemed interested in Xabi because of his achievements which have brought extraordinary improvements to Leverkusen.

de zerbi? he will only make liverpool look like a joke, i'm not at all confident in his ability to handle a team like liverpool, what liverpool needs to replace jurgen klopp is someone who is friendly and understands every characteristic of the players he trains and nagelsmann seems to be a good fit, but it's spreading there are rumors that nagelsmann is taking a break from coaching, he hasn't announced how long but i quite like the way he coaches bayern, i imagine he will be quite successful at liverpool.

[nelson4lov]

I think Pochettino is just kind of confused right now. Chelsea had the opportunity to win the match. Burnley received two red cards in the match, one was for their coach, and the other was for their player. They should have made use of the opportunity that they had, but they missed it. I never expected Chelsea to draw today's match. I expected the match to be an easy win for Chelsea, but they couldn’t win the match, all they had was a draw. Burnley played an intelligent game in the match, immediately they equalised, and the match was 1.1. Burnley started playing a defensive game in the match, they didn’t give Chelsea breathing space in their defense, which really helped them.

Truly, it was disappointing to watch Chelsea settle for a draw at home to a mediocre Burnley side even worse, this "mediocre" team had a red card since the first half and they couldn't take advantage of it to give the win to their fans at home. It's just a terrible performance by Pochettino's boys and they have had many of such this season so its nothing new. To think Pochettino brought in new guys to strengthen the squad during the last transfer window. At this point, I'm sure Y'all will agree with me that Chelsea needs a new coach. They have to keep switching till they get the right now.

[arimamib]

Have you people notice that Chelsea formation in this match between Chelsea and Burnley, so I believe that what is problem of Chelsea is the coach, by right Chelsea suppose to defeat Burnley in this match because Vincent Kompany received red card for the half and the still they could not defeat Burnley

I think Pochettino is just kind of confused right now. Chelsea had the opportunity to win the match. Burnley received two red cards in the match, one was for their coach, and the other was for their player. They should have made use of the opportunity that they had, but they missed it. I never expected Chelsea to draw today's match. I expected the match to be an easy win for Chelsea, but they couldn’t win the match, all they had was a draw. Burnley played an intelligent game in the match, immediately they equalised, and the match was 1.1. Burnley started playing a defensive game in the match, they didn’t give Chelsea breathing space in their defense, which really helped them.

The game proves that Chelsea haven't improved much. Even though their defense hasn't conceded many goals in the last few games, It hasnt been enough for Chelsea to solve their situation. Lost to 10-men Burnley at home is another low from an expensive talented team. Having a numerical advantage could still not make Chelsea grab the opportunity to win the game. The front line could not capitalize chances has also costed the team.

Burnley have the ability to adapt their tactics after going down to ten men may have caught Chelsea off guard. Instead of crumbling under pressure, Burnley showed resilience and organization, particularly in their defensive efforts. Despite Chelsea's superiority on paper, spirit and determination made the difference in the game. Burnley's equalizer likely shifted the momentum of the game, made it challenging for Chelsea to find openings and capitalize on their numerical advantage. Pochettino's tactics and substitutions seemed to have no impact to the display.