⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[bitgolden]

Garnacho's future remains uncertain at this time, after being dropped from the first team by Ruben Amorim and left out of Manchester United's pre-season tour, he has yet to find a new club. Linked with Chelsea but until nowadays both side not reach agreement deal and Chelsea announce for pushing transfer Xavi Ximos from RB Leipzig. It seems Garnacho doesn't fit into Ruben Amorim's scheme and currently Manchester United has few options in the winger position, making Garnacho lose his main position.

Yes, but it's been said that Chelsea wants both Garnacho and Xavi Simon, if possible. They're to fill the goalkeeper and attacking midfielder positions. Both Garnacho and Xavi Simons are aiming to join Chelsea.
So, it remains to be seen how negotiations progress and determine the outcome.

At least, the two signings are done before closing the transfer window.

Xavi Simmons and Garnacho will end up with a lot more help to Chelsea, but would increase the number of players Chelsea has a bit more. Chelsea seriously needs to end up selling some of the players, otherwise makes no sense for them to keep getting players. They have to realize they are spending a lot of issues with the current team with how many players they have.

There aren't really any buyers at the moment, so they need to lower the cost/price of the players and make sure that at least 5+ more are gone before they make this deal and get these two players. Or if they do end up getting before, then that would not be avoidable, they have to just get rid of them, it's very important for them to make this work somehow and lower the number of players.

[Jostern]

Might want to hold off on that Gyökeres excitement for a bit. He played 62 minutes today against Villarreal — no goals, no assists, just 14 touches and one shot on target. Arsenal conceded three at home in a friendly, too. Of course, it’s just pre-season, but not exactly the kind of form that makes you rush to back them at 2.11.

This was considered a bad start for Arsenal and Gyokeres. Fortunately, this was only a friendly match, but fans were undoubtedly very enthusiastic to see Gyokeres perform at his new club, and expectations were high. However, on the other hand, it's undeniable that no matter how good a player is, he will definitely need to adapt.

Let's try again later.

Source: FT — Arsenal 2 - 3 Villarreal

Indeed it was a bad start for Arsenal after loosing to Villarreal in Emirates Stadium. I was expecting Arsenal to defeat Villarreal with ease and with a large goals margins but it didn't happen as predicted. However it was a friendly match but it still says a lot about the current Arsenal form. Arsenal have Lost to Villarreal,Tottenham,Ac Milian while also struggled to defeat Newcastle United in the pre-season matches. With of this poor performance from Arsenal recently,it may happen that Arsenal may perform below average when the premier League season start. Gyokeres also failed to impress Arsenal fans in this game,i think Gyokeres should be given enough time to synergize with his new team mates.

Friendly games aren’t so important games at all, it’s mainly for building fitness and getting awareness of the next season, But honestly speaking I was expecting Arsenal to win the friendly game but the way Villarreal was running through the Arsenal defense was just some like Arsenal didn’t have a very strong defense, But I was paying more attention to the new signings most especially Victor Gyokores who was just brought in from Sporting to know how he has been able to adapt to his new team.

But I noticed something awful unless Arteta will have to do something about it immediately, The wingers aren’t really working for the striker, they are more interested in getting the ball and trying to drive and cut into the Eighteen yard box to shoot and score goals themselves instead of passing the ball to the striker, the striker which is Victor Gyokores was trying to get into the wings to get the ball and drive into the box to try and make attempts to score, if that is the plan for Arteta game this season I feel it might not work for him, and he urgently needs to sign a new left winger.

[Distraction]

I think the opening match will be a goal show by Liverpool.    Do you think the same? It's always not easy to predict first fixtures. But after the latest transfers I've much bigger expectations from Liverpool. Another PL domination...

This was considered a bad start for Arsenal and Gyokeres. Fortunately, this was only a friendly match, but fans were undoubtedly very enthusiastic to see Gyokeres perform at his new club, and expectations were high. However, on the other hand, it's undeniable that no matter how good a player is, he will definitely need to adapt.

Let's try again later.

Source: FT — Arsenal 2 - 3 Villarreal

Only 14 touches with the ball and 1 goal attempt... Indeed it's not the best start for Gyökeres.    But it's his first times at the team.

He'll need to improve his match condition first. After being given time we'd find out about his real performance.

[Volgastallion]

Gyokeres needs to adapt to the Arsenal way of working plus we dont know how much  phisycal work he was doing, maybe he was super tired by the travels or the train, plus the pre season games for me mean nothing, lot of teams try there gameplays they never are gonna use in the season.

[Solodoski]

Next week the Premier League is finally going to be underway.  

And we are starting the season with a lovely game like Manchester United - Arsenal.



Here is the odds. Not much surprising. Or maybe Arsenal could have had lower odds considering last season. But probably bookmakers wanted to evaluate it like this because of its being the first game.

I will probably bet on Arsenal win @2.11. I can't wait to watch Gyökeres!  

I think the odd is very fair and like you said it's just the first match and the bookmakers are still trying to evaluate. The odds is in Arsenal's favor and we all expect them to win, but going on Arsenal last two pre season game, I think we have to be worried a little, because the team has not found a way to bring Viktor Gypkeres into the game and he is finding it hard to see much of the ball.
Although I will still bet on Arsenal, because I still believe that Arteta will find a solution before the season kicks off. They are playing good football, but are conceding sloppy goals and they have not been able to create much offensively.

[Salahmu]

Arsenal odd wasn't supposed to be this high , how would they give lower odd to a club who barely made it to the seven or eight position last season and gave a bigger odd to a club who has constantly go very higher all the time of the premier League, was it because of the player Manchester United signed that has given them this confident on Manchester United,

Because this is a new season, and we don't know the full strength of the teams yet. You can write Manchester United off, especially when facing a big team in the first match of the season. They will be motivated to win as well. Arsenal is not that good a team to make them seem like United stand no chance against them.
As bad as Man United was last season, Arsenal only won them ones out of the three times they met. United drew one and knocked them out of the FA cup on penalties, so yeah, the odds are just fine.

Even if this was a new season that performance hasn't been determined but still wouldn't have made Manchester United looks superior to arsenal, is not that I'm underrating Manchester United but over years disappointment has been there title so they shouldn't be hyped for now until there performance has now proving stabilized, however I'm surprised you are not seeing from my insight on them, if the starting was the reason I believe they could have done the same thing to every other teams since non of them has played yet , if you look at Liverpool odd you will no that it was supposed to be.

[PremiumcryptoHub]

Might want to hold off on that Gyökeres excitement for a bit. He played 62 minutes today against Villarreal — no goals, no assists, just 14 touches and one shot on target. Arsenal conceded three at home in a friendly, too. Of course, it’s just pre-season, but not exactly the kind of form that makes you rush to back them at 2.11.

This was considered a bad start for Arsenal and Gyokeres. Fortunately, this was only a friendly match, but fans were undoubtedly very enthusiastic to see Gyokeres perform at his new club, and expectations were high. However, on the other hand, it's undeniable that no matter how good a player is, he will definitely need to adapt.

Let's try again later.

Source: FT — Arsenal 2 - 3 Villarreal

Indeed it was a bad start for Arsenal after loosing to Villarreal in Emirates Stadium. I was expecting Arsenal to defeat Villarreal with ease and with a large goals margins but it didn't happen as predicted. However it was a friendly match but it still says a lot about the current Arsenal form. Arsenal have Lost to Villarreal,Tottenham,Ac Milian while also struggled to defeat Newcastle United in the pre-season matches. With of this poor performance from Arsenal recently,it may happen that Arsenal may perform below average when the premier League season start. Gyokeres also failed to impress Arsenal fans in this game,i think Gyokeres should be given enough time to synergize with his new team mates.

It is completely surprising to me that Arsenal, with such a strong squad, would lose to the Villarreal football team, in this match they had Victor Gyokeres as well as other emerging players but their attack against the Villarreal football team was fruitless. Perhaps Arsenal was not the only team to lose in the English Premier League, Tottenham Football Club also suffered a huge defeat to Bayern Munich today. We can see that the transfer market has been hot for English clubs but at the moment one of Tottenham's key players has joined the MLS league as a result, they were relatively weak against Bayern Munich in this club friendly match.

[Stable090]

Gyokeres needs to adapt to the Arsenal way of working plus we dont know how much  phisycal work he was doing, maybe he was super tired by the travels or the train, plus the pre season games for me mean nothing, lot of teams try there gameplays they never are gonna use in the season.

Why looking for excuses to cover up for his poor performance in the match? Seriously everyone expected a better performance from Gyokeres in the match, but he ended up surprising everyone in the match, no goal, no Assist, and his performance was just poor in the match. I agree with you that he needs more time to adapt to the team, but trying to cover up with excuses doesn’t make any sense. Are you telling me that it’s only Gyokeres that traveled? Why is it that other players that traveled didn’t get tired. Am not going to complain about Gyokeres yet, it’s a pre season match, and he is still new to the team, but when the season start, let’s see how he will perform.

[Tmoonz]

Manchester United are really facing a serious problem and since the past seasons they were still not able to decode their problem even when they got rid of Erik ten hag and sign Amorim as their new coach thinking they have solve their problem but it was not so. When Erik ten hag was managing Manchester United many people thought he was the team’s  problem and when he was sacked the the completed last season at the fifteenth place which was very terrible for the team. The best thing they can do now is to dedicate their focus on the Premier league next season and make sure they are part of the top five.

 I think it not proper to say Manchester United is a failed team because they are trying to reform but they missed out on many people in the transfer window.

It is easy to cure when you find out the disease the same problem is with the team of Manchester United i personally think that from all the teams right now Manchester United is suffering the worst time. But we can't say about them that they are a failed team. They definitely failed if they were not in the way of recovery and betterment. When the Eric Ten Hag was their coach then almost all the fans and viewers think that due to him the team is not able to do well . But since they have the new coach there are no significant changes and performance has been seen. So, i think the problem is not about the coach at all . They are not finding out the reasons which push them far from success i think before the work on enhancing the team's performance they should work first on those points and reasons which cause them to fail when they got succes in over coming their short comings their success story will be start again.

Yes we all know Eric Ten Hang was a major problem at the team, with some kind of senseless action taken by him during he's stay at the club so for sure Eric Ten Hang was actually a big problem to the team, but talking about Reuben amorin I think it's quite too early to put on some blame on him, remember he took over the the from half of the season and Eric Ten Hang had already make mess out of the team, and he managed to get to the Europa League final despite losing the game, but the real deal is now that he's taken full control of the team, and with some kind of decisions taken we can be kind of certain for something good comes next season, so let's leave Amorin out of this for now please.

[Alpha Marine]

Even if this was a new season that performance hasn't been determined but still wouldn't have made Manchester United looks superior to arsenal, is not that I'm underrating Manchester United but over years disappointment has been there title so they shouldn't be hyped for now until there performance has now proving stabilized, however I'm surprised you are not seeing from my insight on them, if the starting was the reason I believe they could have done the same thing to every other teams since non of them has played yet , if you look at Liverpool odd you will no that it was supposed to be.

But United still has a higher odds of winning than Arsenal, meaning Arsenal has the better chance of winning. Bookmakers consider a lot of things when determining the odds. If Arsenal couldn't win against Man United 2 times out of 3 times they met last season, which was United's worst season in recent history, why do you think their odds to win against them this time around should be way lower?

Also, if you look at the preseason, Arsenal has not performed like a team that can dogwalk United, have they? I know people will say "it's just preseason", but all these determine. Arsenal are good, but I think you overrate how good they are. The odds they've been given to win are fair. They are favorites, but its not that certain.

[boltz]

Manchester United are really facing a serious problem and since the past seasons they were still not able to decode their problem even when they got rid of Erik ten hag and sign Amorim as their new coach thinking they have solve their problem but it was not so. When Erik ten hag was managing Manchester United many people thought he was the team’s  problem and when he was sacked the the completed last season at the fifteenth place which was very terrible for the team. The best thing they can do now is to dedicate their focus on the Premier league next season and make sure they are part of the top five.

 I think it not proper to say Manchester United is a failed team because they are trying to reform but they missed out on many people in the transfer window.

It is easy to cure when you find out the disease the same problem is with the team of Manchester United i personally think that from all the teams right now Manchester United is suffering the worst time. But we can't say about them that they are a failed team. They definitely failed if they were not in the way of recovery and betterment. When the Eric Ten Hag was their coach then almost all the fans and viewers think that due to him the team is not able to do well . But since they have the new coach there are no significant changes and performance has been seen. So, i think the problem is not about the coach at all . They are not finding out the reasons which push them far from success i think before the work on enhancing the team's performance they should work first on those points and reasons which cause them to fail when they got succes in over coming their short comings their success story will be start again.

Yes we all know Eric Ten Hang was a major problem at the team, with some kind of senseless action taken by him during he's stay at the club so for sure Eric Ten Hang was actually a big problem to the team, but talking about Reuben amorin I think it's quite too early to put on some blame on him, remember he took over the the from half of the season and Eric Ten Hang had already make mess out of the team, and he managed to get to the Europa League final despite losing the game, but the real deal is now that he's taken full control of the team, and with some kind of decisions taken we can be kind of certain for something good comes next season, so let's leave Amorin out of this for now please.

It was not only Ten Hag fault but also the board and some players as well who simply didn't understood what Manchester United means and some still don't know to this day and as a fan of United it really hurts to see this team having no real desire for great performance. This is also a great reason for me to simply not have faith in them this season of EPL and let's be honest , they cannot fight for top 5 but I really hope Ruben Amorim had enough time this summer to prepare a decent team that can progress game by game starting this year.

[SatoPrincess]

Might want to hold off on that Gyökeres excitement for a bit. He played 62 minutes today against Villarreal — no goals, no assists, just 14 touches and one shot on target. Arsenal conceded three at home in a friendly, too. Of course, it’s just pre-season, but not exactly the kind of form that makes you rush to back them at 2.11.

This was considered a bad start for Arsenal and Gyokeres. Fortunately, this was only a friendly match, but fans were undoubtedly very enthusiastic to see Gyokeres perform at his new club, and expectations were high. However, on the other hand, it's undeniable that no matter how good a player is, he will definitely need to adapt.

Let's try again later.

Source: FT — Arsenal 2 - 3 Villarreal

The season is yet to start and I feel it is too early to begin to undermine and criticize Gyokeres capabilities. The team just concluded their friendly games and will now prepare to kickstart the season. I think Gyokeres is adapting well with the team and it’s playing style and he will definitely get more minutes against Manchester United so let’s give him time to adapt fully then we can begin to judge and evaluate his performance.

[Adbitco]

The season is yet to start and I feel it is tol early to begin to undermine and criticize Gyokeres capabilities. The team just concluded their friendly games and will now prepare to kick start the season. I think Gyokeres is adapting well with the team and it’s playing style and he will definitely get more minutes against Manchester United so let’s give him time to adapt fully then we can begin to judge and evaluate his performance.

Very very early, that why when I even saw the score line, I just scrolled and pass, after all no big deal there, it's just a friendly match and that's all. Right from time, I have just been saying keep calm in this pre season. If your team is winning, no problem just enjoy it and know that the season hasn't yet started. If your team is losing, also keep calm as well, it's an exhibition game where the coach is trying out new tactics and formation. Once the season starts, players will get more serious. Even if I'm a player, I can't risk myself so as to avoid injuries on the tour.

[Obari]

The season is yet to start and I feel it is tol early to begin to undermine and criticize Gyokeres capabilities. The team just concluded their friendly games and will now prepare to kick start the season. I think Gyokeres is adapting well with the team and it’s playing style and he will definitely get more minutes against Manchester United so let’s give him time to adapt fully then we can begin to judge and evaluate his performance.

Who's undermining the features of Viktor Gyökeres? Do you watch him at Sporting CP? He's an all time goal scoring machine and have been the pressing statistics to lure himself into winning matches. Who's doubting Viktor Gyökeres ability in Arsenal? He's just getting acquainted with the system, we know it's been a whole tough road for the player, always up and running for the big leagues. Viktor Gyökeres is yet to bang a goal for his new side, we should not put the new signing under pressure because he has more way to go and wouldn't be the main cause why the club experience defeats, moreover it's friendly games.

[SatoPrincess]

Next week the Premier League is finally going to be underway.  

And we are starting the season with a lovely game like Manchester United - Arsenal.



Here is the odds. Not much surprising. Or maybe Arsenal could have had lower odds considering last season. But probably bookmakers wanted to evaluate it like this because of its being the first game.

I will probably bet on Arsenal win @2.11. I can't wait to watch Gyökeres!  

This happens to be the most anticipated game as the league resumes. It is going to be tough and highly competitive and I really can’t wait for the experience. I expected this odds after Arsenal’s last two losses to Spurs and Villareal, however I think this is a good odds and it will be nice to double up some funds betting on Arsenal to win.

[jems]

Next week the Premier League is finally going to be underway.  

And we are starting the season with a lovely game like Manchester United - Arsenal.



Here is the odds. Not much surprising. Or maybe Arsenal could have had lower odds considering last season. But probably bookmakers wanted to evaluate it like this because of its being the first game.

I will probably bet on Arsenal win @2.11. I can't wait to watch Gyökeres!  

This happens to be the most anticipated game as the league resumes. It is going to be tough and highly competitive and I really can’t wait for the experience. I expected this odds after Arsenal’s last two losses to Spurs and Villareal, however I think this is a good odds and it will be nice to double up some funds betting on Arsenal to win.

This will be a tough match at the start for both Manchester United and Arsenal, but I think it's very difficult to predict in the first week of matches because teams' performances are often slightly different at the start, or they haven't yet found their best form.

Manchester United will be playing at home, so they shouldn't be underestimated, even though they aren't significantly better than Arsenal in terms of quality.

And the bookmakers haven't been wrong in their odds; they're quite reasonable, as Arsenal doesn't have a high chance of winning easily.
Personally, I wouldn't bet on an Arsenal win, even though the odds are quite attractive. It's too risky in my opinion, and I'll bet on the over in the upcoming match. I think there will be a lot of goals scored, based on previous meetings between the two teams.

[Gost ms]

Might want to hold off on that Gyökeres excitement for a bit. He played 62 minutes today against Villarreal — no goals, no assists, just 14 touches and one shot on target. Arsenal conceded three at home in a friendly, too. Of course, it’s just pre-season, but not exactly the kind of form that makes you rush to back them at 2.11.

This was considered a bad start for Arsenal and Gyokeres. Fortunately, this was only a friendly match, but fans were undoubtedly very enthusiastic to see Gyokeres perform at his new club, and expectations were high. However, on the other hand, it's undeniable that no matter how good a player is, he will definitely need to adapt.

Let's try again later.

Source: FT — Arsenal 2 - 3 Villarreal

The season is yet to start and I feel it is too early to begin to undermine and criticize Gyokeres capabilities. The team just concluded their friendly games and will now prepare to kickstart the season. I think Gyokeres is adapting well with the team and it’s playing style and he will definitely get more minutes against Manchester United so let’s give him time to adapt fully then we can begin to judge and evaluate his performance.

Yes you are right, if a player does not get a chance to play then how can we talk about him. You can never consider the present by looking at the previous game. Because you can never tell what happens in the middle of the game. It is not that a player will not play well today just because he played well a few days ago. Many players are not in form. For example, in one match that player played very well but in the next match he could not do anything very well. This happens a lot of times. So you can never tell before the game what will happen on the field. We can tell by watching the game on the field. But yes we can guess how he can play by looking at some of the past games. But this is a complete fantasy but you cannot tell what will happen on the field

[SatoPrincess]

From https://www.nytimes.com/ analyzes the majority of the top 6 teams buying players from the EPL. Bryan Mbeumo and Matheus Cunha joined Manchester United, Mohammed Kudus joined Spurs (top left), Joao Pedro (top right), and Liam Delap to Chelsea. Then there's Milos Kerkez to Liverpool, Rayan Ait-Nouri to Manchester City, and Christian Norgaard to Arsenal. The argument is that domestic academies produce better talent - young English teams have won international tournaments. Do you agree with this?

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6536168/2025/08/05/transfers-nicolas-jackson-chelsea-u-s-premier-league-owners/

I can agree that the EPL is making huge and noticeable improvements lately in terms of grooming young players to stardom and It gives me delight that EPL top clubs are now seeing good potentials in academy players. I totally agree that domestic academies have been producing great players for a very long time and it is time EPL clubs turn attention to domestic youth players.

[BALIK]

The season is yet to start and I feel it is too early to begin to undermine and criticize Gyokeres capabilities. The team just concluded their friendly games and will now prepare to kickstart the season. I think Gyokeres is adapting well with the team and it’s playing style and he will definitely get more minutes against Manchester United so let’s give him time to adapt fully then we can begin to judge and evaluate his performance.

I do not  know why everyone  is so quick to underestimate Gyokeres. This was his first match in the Premier league platform. We must gave him enough  time  to adapt to a completely new condition.  We know there is a big difference between Sporting's match strategy and arsenal's match  strategy. Is it easy to adapt to new teammates and match strategy ? After watching Gyokeres' performance in at least 5/6 matches , we should evaluate his ability.
However  villarreal's players performed very well in this  match. I saw their performance. If the team doesn't lose the  truck and their performance is consistent, this team will compete for the title

[joniboini]

-snip-

I mean, that's the norm for football fans nowadays, most are for banters though. If someone seriously thinks one match in pre-season is enough to tell how good or bad a player is, I think something is wrong with their head. Another reason is that they want to feel superior because they can say "just like I said before" or "I told you so". Just look at what people say about Halland or other star players in the past. Even if they make a 25 G/A contribution, people will call him a flop or something just because they can.