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February 14, 2025, 03:55:49 PM
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If we look at the conditions of the two teams it is not different at all, but if we look deeper it actually looks worse for madrid with the injuries that have befallen them, and without any new players they have recruited this season and that is in contrast from manchester city who has spent more than 200 million euros just in the transfer market last winter, but even so ancelotti was able to maximise the potential of his players even by placing players in different positions to strengthen their defence, Madrid mentality and ability have made all the difference in that game and even with the dominance shown by manchester city, Madrid were able to capitalise on every mistake made by Guardiola squad to win at the Etihad Stadium, the chances of a comeback in the second leg are wide open for manchester city, but it will depend on how much mentality and ability they have to win at the Santiago Bernabeu later.
This is exactly why Madrid are built differently. You can throw all the "on-paper" analysis out the window (injuries, transfer market spending, squad depth) none of that means a thing when the biggest club in football history steps onto the pitch. Madrid don’t just play football; they own the Champions League. Guardiola can spend another €500M, and it won’t change the fact that his team mentally collapses when it matters. They dominate, pass, create 20 chances, and then... boom: two mistakes, two goals, and Madrid walks out as winners. That’s the difference

Ancelotti is a football genius. The guy makes midfielders into defenders, full-backs into wingers, and somehow it all works. You think City has a chance at the Bernabéu? Sure, if they can grow the same mentality that Madrid has developed over 14 Champions League titles. Because winning in Madrid isn’t just about tactics, it’s about surviving 90 minutes of pure football warfare

City had everything in their favor. Home crowd. A fully fit squad. Haaland actually scoring against Madrid for the first time ever. And they still choked in the last four minutes. If they’re serious about a comeback, they better come to Spain with ice in their veins, because Madrid won’t just defend a 3-2 lead. They’ll kill the game before City even knows what happened
Madrid have a strong winning mentality in the UCL and with their great experience and history in the UCL so far, of course it gives them the confidence and ability to cope with great pressure even in difficult conditions, if we compare the quality of the two teams, actually they are quite balanced even though Madrid are in worse condition than Manchester City at the moment in terms of player injuries, but Ancelotti tactical and strategic skills has managed to cover every flaw they have at the moment, the second leg will be a very crucial match for both teams although Madrid is currently ahead agregat goal from Manchester City, but I think all possibilities can still happen in leg second later, so I think, Madrid fans should not be too confident for now over their victory in the first leg yesterday Grin.
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February 14, 2025, 05:12:14 PM
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The on going discussion about the removal of the extra time in the Champion 🏆 League in the Knockout Stage. Which will lead to the penalty stage if the the match is goalless without the extra time. The change can also be used in the fourth coming FIFA World Cup. An analyst said the change will reduce the stress of the extra time for players. As for the me the extra time also helps the other team that has not yet scored any goals to score. I prefer keeping it instead.of scrapping it. They are in the best position not analyse the period.
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February 14, 2025, 05:30:47 PM
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The on going discussion about the removal of the extra time in the Champion 🏆 League in the Knockout Stage. Which will lead to the penalty stage if the the match is goalless without the extra time. The change can also be used in the fourth coming FIFA World Cup. An analyst said the change will reduce the stress of the extra time for players. As for the me the extra time also helps the other team that has not yet scored any goals to score. I prefer keeping it instead.of scrapping it. They are in the best position not analyse the period.
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Another discussion topic recently is to remove the second chance ball when you miss a penalty. I mean if the penalty doesn't end up with a goal then that's it. No player will be allowed to go after the ball even if it returns from the goalkeeper or post. The game will continue with a goal kick.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pierluigi-collina-penalty-rule-change-34657164

Let's see whether this concept will be added into football soon. This isn't only for the Champions League of course. For all the tournaments.  Wink



I'm looking forward to watching the rematch between Real Madrid and Manchester City. I see Real Madrid in next phase already honestly but probably it will be another fun game to watch.  Smiley  It will also be a game worth betting on as the first leg ended 3-2.

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February 14, 2025, 05:54:02 PM
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Madrid have a strong winning mentality in the UCL and with their great experience and history in the UCL so far, of course it gives them the confidence and ability to cope with great pressure even in difficult conditions, if we compare the quality of the two teams, actually they are quite balanced even though Madrid are in worse condition than Manchester City at the moment in terms of player injuries, but Ancelotti tactical and strategic skills has managed to cover every flaw they have at the moment, the second leg will be a very crucial match for both teams although Madrid is currently ahead agregat goal from Manchester City, but I think all possibilities can still happen in leg second later, so I think, Madrid fans should not be too confident for now over their victory in the first leg yesterday Grin.
Of a truth the experience and the mentality of Real Madrid is one that is almost second to non acrothe champions league and that has indeed helped them a whole lot even at times when it feels like they are already loosing it, City Has got almost same characteristics but they didn't get that sustainability around it long enough  and that probably  affected how they literally  did performed although  they did tried to exhibit  resilience with that fixture but they probably weren't just lucky enough.
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February 14, 2025, 05:59:34 PM
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Ahead of the crucial second leg game in the knockout playoff of the UEFA Champions League tie between Real Madrid vs Manchester City, there's a good news for Real Madrid fans as it's been reported today that Toni Rudiger, Lucas Vasquez and David Alaba will all be back and for for the game. This o think will give Carlo Ancelotti the needed options at the back as well as increase their chances of winning the game.







On the other hand, there's a worrisome news for Manchester City fans and the club manager Pep Guardiola as it's been reported that Manuel Akanji have been ruled out for 8/10 weeks. Now City will travel to Santiago Bernabeu without Akanji and if you ask me, I think it'll make things more difficult for Manchester City who needs to overturn a 3:2 deficit to progress to the round of 16.

Personally, I feel Manchester City can't get past this stage but will still want to read your thoughts about this recent development.
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February 14, 2025, 06:35:05 PM
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I have little doubt that City will score, because they have no other choice and they have a good attack, but I also think that they will concede, and perhaps more than once. Guardiola has been pessimistic about his team for the rest of this season, and it is difficult to fight such an attitude, especially against Real, who clearly have the goal of winning this tournament again. At best, City can count on a draw in the second leg.


Yes, we have no doubt that City's front line is sharp, there is no doubt that Haaland is a very dangerous striker. Unfortunately, their defense is fragile, easily penetrated by the opposing team and it seems that City's defenders are like mediocre players. It seems that City really has to renew their players, whether the defense line and some players who are 30+. In the second leg, Real Madrid is clearly much more favored, I don't know what plan Pep Guardiola will implement. Rodri's absence seems to add to Manchester City's poor performance, usually Rodri is a pivot that can be relied on. But now Manchester City is like a mediocre team, they often concede goals even to mediocre teams. I'm not sure what to speculate about in the second leg, because Madrid will not allow City to score goals like in the first leg. Let's see how City plays their match at the Santiago Bernabeu, whether they continue to play badly or can turn things around.
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February 14, 2025, 06:48:56 PM
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I have little doubt that City will score, because they have no other choice and they have a good attack, but I also think that they will concede, and perhaps more than once. Guardiola has been pessimistic about his team for the rest of this season, and it is difficult to fight such an attitude, especially against Real, who clearly have the goal of winning this tournament again. At best, City can count on a draw in the second leg.
Yes, we have no doubt that City's front line is sharp, there is no doubt that Haaland is a very dangerous striker. Unfortunately, their defense is fragile, easily penetrated by the opposing team and it seems that City's defenders are like mediocre players. It seems that City really has to renew their players, whether the defense line and some players who are 30+. In the second leg, Real Madrid is clearly much more favored, I don't know what plan Pep Guardiola will implement. Rodri's absence seems to add to Manchester City's poor performance, usually Rodri is a pivot that can be relied on. But now Manchester City is like a mediocre team, they often concede goals even to mediocre teams. I'm not sure what to speculate about in the second leg, because Madrid will not allow City to score goals like in the first leg. Let's see how City plays their match at the Santiago Bernabeu, whether they continue to play badly or can turn things around.
I would say their midfielders are also not in a very good position. Along with the defenders, their midfielders are not performing well. To play against a team like Real Madrid, every department must be strong and precise. The comforting thing is that Real Madrid's defense is quite weak, which is why they are fighting for Round 16 today. In the second leg, we might see Real Madrid dominate as well, although off the field, they will definitely have the upper hand. The home advantage and being 1 goal ahead from the first leg gives Real Madrid about a 70%+ chance of winning. To be 100% sure of the outcome, we will have to wait until the end of the match. I am assuming Man City will go back home.











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February 14, 2025, 07:11:42 PM
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Every time I see this game, a good football always promises, the teams are the best in the current world is difficult to find better, indeed I would say almost impossible, also because all the best players want to play in those top clubs, I think that currently the Real Madrid is a little more complete than the City but little, but what little is enough to win the game, I can't wait for the next match to arrive
Our predictions sometimes turn out to be different from what we expected during the match, when the top teams meet it seems like the match will look very interesting even though not all of them will be promising. Most of the top teams have now declined in performance.
In the Madrid vs Manchester City match, it is very profitable for Madrid because the City players are a little doubtful and Real Madrid has a good attack line. Will Madrid win the match in the next match?

Yeah. We can’t predict it, and it comes the way we predicted it anytime, and that is why they call it a prediction. It’s something we don’t know how it will look at the end of the match, although people tend to underrate some small clubs, and it turns out to be another thing. We did not expect some small clubs to be beating big clubs.

Manchester City are strong and Real Madrid can not win all matches and even have possibility to fail at their home stadium. There is hope for Manchester City to make a comeback at a home-away stadium, but they must approach that match so humbly and patiently create chances for beating Real Madrid. If they play too aggressively attacking, their not too good midfield and defense system in this season will give Real Madrid so many dangerous space to exploit. With Vinicius, Mbappe, Rodrygo, Jude, Brahim for attacks, Real Madrid have more than enough capabale attacking players to win at their home stadium.

If Manchester City won't play carefully, they have risk to get a landslide defeat in Bernabeu Stadium, as Real Madrid are much stronger than Arsenal.

Although, you seem to be giving Real Madrid a high chance of winning the match, and I think it’s good for you, and even I do the same because currently I can say Real Madrid is in better form than Manchester City, although in this kind of game it’s a game that is difficult to confidently predict who will win since both teams will not want to lose to each other and for the fact that both of them are not bad and weak,

you can see that we will just wait and see what will happen in the match because we already know how the first leg ended, so in the second leg now Manchester City will want to do everything possible to win, in which they may find it difficult because the second leg will be at Real Madrid's home.

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February 14, 2025, 07:25:00 PM
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But what do you mean "the real match was yesterday?" Even tonight there are "real" matches, it's not only the big matches that are the real challenges but also everything else. I'm not a fan of any of the teams involved tonight, but that doesn't mean I don't find the matches played today interesting. I've always been an Inter supporter but I always hope that in the Champions League all the Italian teams go as deep as possible

As said in a previous post tonight Brugges would have won, and in fact in the 94th minute they scored on a penalty kick. I'm sorry for Atalanta but there is no need to despair, it is still possible for them to get through the round.

This was my response to someone saying that the Wednesday games were interesting and while I explained that there is something interesting about those games, most likely a lot of football fans were looking forward to the game Manchester City against Real Madrid as this game is usually marked with names you would connect with the Champions League final in your head, however it is the playoffs round, which is mind boggling that both teams that have been among the best of the best of the best for so many years now didn't make it into the final round without any additional paths like the playoffs.

But it's even better for those who were not willing to wait until the final before names like these are playing against each other. That is what my statement was about. If somebody had to choose watching either Monaco - Benfica, or Feyenoord - Milan or Manchester City - Real Madrid, my assumption is that the vast majority would go with the latter.

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February 14, 2025, 07:36:20 PM
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I have little doubt that City will score, because they have no other choice and they have a good attack, but I also think that they will concede, and perhaps more than once. Guardiola has been pessimistic about his team for the rest of this season, and it is difficult to fight such an attitude, especially against Real, who clearly have the goal of winning this tournament again. At best, City can count on a draw in the second leg.


Yes, we have no doubt that City's front line is sharp, there is no doubt that Haaland is a very dangerous striker. Unfortunately, their defense is fragile, easily penetrated by the opposing team and it seems that City's defenders are like mediocre players. It seems that City really has to renew their players, whether the defense line and some players who are 30+. In the second leg, Real Madrid is clearly much more favored, I don't know what plan Pep Guardiola will implement. Rodri's absence seems to add to Manchester City's poor performance, usually Rodri is a pivot that can be relied on. But now Manchester City is like a mediocre team, they often concede goals even to mediocre teams. I'm not sure what to speculate about in the second leg, because Madrid will not allow City to score goals like in the first leg. Let's see how City plays their match at the Santiago Bernabeu, whether they continue to play badly or can turn things around.

It doesn't make sense that Manchester City is so fragile just because of Rodri's absence, but the absence of Rodri has caused Manchester City to lose a lot and they can't find an alternative to replace him. Real Madrid is the absolute favorite for the return match. Real Madrid's European success has always been admirable and they can continue this every time, there is no other team that can do this.

Although Manchester City's modern, fast and attack-oriented game will still make Real Madrid difficult, Real Madrid will use this as an advantage due to their defensive weaknesses.

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February 14, 2025, 07:40:01 PM
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It seems, Manchester City have lost the chance to be able to turn things around in the second leg later, considering Manchester City are really not in a good trend. But even so, even though Manchester City fell in this phase I think it is also not a problem,  because then maybe Manchester City will be able to focus more on the Premier League. After all, last season Manchester City also eliminated by Real Madrid in the quarter-finals but even  so, last season Manchester City managed to get the Premier League trophy.

At least, although last season Manchester City failed in the Champions League, but Manchester City still succeeded in the Premier League but  unfortunately, this season it looks like Manchester City have lost the chance to get the trophy. Because after all, considering Manchester City's trend  this season, Manchester City will end this season without a trophy and only try  to be able to finish in the top four in the Premier League standings. Really this season  has been a very difficult season for Manchester City.
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February 14, 2025, 08:01:32 PM
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you can see that we will just wait and see what will happen in the match because we already know how the first leg ended, so in the second leg now Manchester City will want to do everything possible to win, in which they may find it difficult because the second leg will be at Real Madrid's home.

Manchester city wouldn't had allowed Real Madrid to complete their comeback at the Etihad as now Real Madrid are more motivated to win as they're now with the upper hand. Getting a draw would had been the best result in that game but Manchester city being as average as they have been for so many games now allow Real Madrid to win them. There's no way that Manchester city will be able to win Real Madrid at their own home. Real Madrid had better attacking players therefore Manchester city will need to have the best defence to be able to stop Real Madrid from scoring at their home stadium but that'll be very impossible.

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February 14, 2025, 08:05:49 PM
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At least, although last season Manchester City failed in the Champions League, but Manchester City still succeeded in the Premier League but  unfortunately, this season it looks like Manchester City have lost the chance to get the trophy. Because after all, considering Manchester City's trend  this season, Manchester City will end this season without a trophy and only try  to be able to finish in the top four in the Premier League standings. Really this season  has been a very difficult season for Manchester City.
It is quite disappointing to see Madrid's strongest challenger have to fail before meeting in a higher round. In fact, only Man City should have been able to be an interesting match in the final or semi-final when competing against Madrid. But actually this disappointment could have been overcome since the poor performance in several early matches. And what I see now is that the contribution of several players has decreased drastically but Guardiola seems not to respond to this. Now we see how De Bruyne's contribution is getting weaker and several other players are also experiencing a very deep decline in performance. This should have been fixed by the coach. But it turns out that the hopes of the fans are just dreams this season.

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February 14, 2025, 08:10:28 PM
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I'm looking forward to watching the rematch between Real Madrid and Manchester City. I see Real Madrid in next phase already honestly but probably it will be another fun game to watch.  Smiley  It will also be a game worth betting on as the first leg ended 3-2.
The second leg would prolly be as interesting as the first leg, though Real Madrid already have one foot in the next round, City are a complete shadow of themselves and i don't think they have the psychological strength to go to the Bernabeu and win the game and also the tie. The manner in which City collapsed in the first leg is indeed terrible, leading 2-1 with five minutes remaining, only to lose 3-2 is definitely a "confidence killer" and it all but sealed their fate.

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February 14, 2025, 08:15:04 PM
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It seems, Manchester City have lost the chance to be able to turn things around in the second leg later, considering Manchester City are really not in a good trend. But even so, even though Manchester City fell in this phase I think it is also not a problem,  because then maybe Manchester City will be able to focus more on the Premier League. After all, last season Manchester City also eliminated by Real Madrid in the quarter-finals but even  so, last season Manchester City managed to get the Premier League trophy.

At least, although last season Manchester City failed in the Champions League, but Manchester City still succeeded in the Premier League but  unfortunately, this season it looks like Manchester City have lost the chance to get the trophy. Because after all, considering Manchester City's trend  this season, Manchester City will end this season without a trophy and only try  to be able to finish in the top four in the Premier League standings. Really this season  has been a very difficult season for Manchester City.
City lack the same vibe this season. No Rodri = No control. No Gundogan = No clutch factor. Their defense? Fragile. Before, this squad was a machine; now, they appear human, and Madrid punished them for it. And it's not even a one-time occurrence. City have been leaking goals late in games ALL SEASON. 17 goals conceded in the UCL alone?? That does not represent a Pep Guardiola team

Indeed, they may still fight for the Premier League, but they are no longer unbeatable. There is not that same killer instinct. This is what non-development results in. Although Guardiola is the greatest coach in the world, Madrid ADAPTED. They've revived while preserving their essential parts. Bellingham has taken over where Modric and Kroos are fading. Vinicius Jr is unstoppable. City let vital players go, missed key signings, and now they are suffering

This season could be the first in a long time where City win nothing. And should that happen, questions will be asked. Guardiola's contract runs until 2025; should he finish empty-handed, does he even stay? If he walks before the rebuild begins, one would not be surprised

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February 14, 2025, 08:18:06 PM
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Another discussion topic recently is to remove the second chance ball when you miss a penalty. I mean if the penalty doesn't end up with a goal then that's it. No player will be allowed to go after the ball even if it returns from the goalkeeper or post. The game will continue with a goal kick.

Let's see whether this concept will be added into football soon. This isn't only for the Champions League of course. For all the tournaments.  Wink

 I don't think that will be a good rule to add because at that time the ball is still in the field and actions are going on so if the ball hit the goalpost and come back to the field from a penalty kick, then the players should go after the ball and continue the playing and not to stop the game for goal kick. They are some rules they will add that will not favour the players and their team. Because opportunities can come from there for them to score goals.


I'm looking forward to watching the rematch between Real Madrid and Manchester City. I see Real Madrid in next phase already honestly but probably it will be another fun game to watch.  Smiley  It will also be a game worth betting on as the first leg ended 3-2.
That should be Mbappe vs Erling Haaland and based on the previous performance of the two teams. Real Madrid will win the game. Though Man City Erling Haaland will wake up to challenge Real Madrid this time because 3-2 was game if painful exit.

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February 14, 2025, 08:24:45 PM
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It seems, Manchester City have lost the chance to be able to turn things around in the second leg later, considering Manchester City are really not in a good trend. But even so, even though Manchester City fell in this phase I think it is also not a problem,  because then maybe Manchester City will be able to focus more on the Premier League. After all, last season Manchester City also eliminated by Real Madrid in the quarter-finals but even  so, last season Manchester City managed to get the Premier League trophy.
Did Manchester City have hope in the Premier League this season?
I don’t think they will win the Premier League this season because they are not in good form and team is yet to be well organized even after signing some players.

However, we can’t depute the fact that anything can happen in the EPL and the Champions League, but their chance of qualifying ahead of Real Madrid is slim because Madrid has won the first leg away from home, and Madrid injured players are getting back from injury especially the defense which will make it easier for them to win the second leg.

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At least, although last season Manchester City failed in the Champions League, but Manchester City still succeeded in the Premier League but  unfortunately, this season it looks like Manchester City have lost the chance to get the trophy. Because after all, considering Manchester City's trend  this season, Manchester City will end this season without a trophy and only try  to be able to finish in the top four in the Premier League standings. Really this season  has been a very difficult season for Manchester City.
There is no any hope for Pep Guardiola this season, he really needs to learn from his mistake of relying on one single player.

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Madrid have a strong winning mentality in the UCL and with their great experience and history in the UCL so far, of course it gives them the confidence and ability to cope with great pressure even in difficult conditions, if we compare the quality of the two teams, actually they are quite balanced even though Madrid are in worse condition than Manchester City at the moment in terms of player injuries, but Ancelotti tactical and strategic skills has managed to cover every flaw they have at the moment, the second leg will be a very crucial match for both teams although Madrid is currently ahead agregat goal from Manchester City, but I think all possibilities can still happen in leg second later, so I think, Madrid fans should not be too confident for now over their victory in the first leg yesterday Grin.
Real Madrid only lost some of their best defenders, they didn't lose any players who were good at defending. After all, Real Madrid have a better squad in attacking positions and that is much more important for them when they are lacking in defensive positions. Tchouaméni and Valverde have good defensive abilities, even when they are not deployed in their natural positions.

Compared to Manchester City, Real Madrid's defense tended to be better throughout the match even though there were still shortcomings. Real Madrid still managed to turn things around before the match was over even though I actually expected a draw as the end of the match. In the second leg, it seems that it will be easier for Real Madrid to beat Manchester City considering that Real Madrid is playing at home.

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February 14, 2025, 08:38:42 PM
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I'm looking forward to watching the rematch between Real Madrid and Manchester City. I see Real Madrid in next phase already honestly but probably it will be another fun game to watch.  Smiley  It will also be a game worth betting on as the first leg ended 3-2.
The second leg would prolly be as interesting as the first leg, though Real Madrid already have one foot in the next round, City are a complete shadow of themselves and i don't think they have the psychological strength to go to the Bernabeu and win the game and also the tie. The manner in which City collapsed in the first leg is indeed terrible, leading 2-1 with five minutes remaining, only to lose 3-2 is definitely a "confidence killer" and it all but sealed their fate.

Am just so suprised how Manchester city got to this point because if someone was to tell me that Manchester city would get this poor in form and mental strength I would doubt it and I would argue but that's football for you. As for Madrid they are also not as strong as last year but there is always something different with Real Madrid when it comes to the champions league and am certain that they would hold Manchester city at the Santiago bernabeau

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February 14, 2025, 08:50:57 PM
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Madrid have a strong winning mentality in the UCL and with their great experience and history in the UCL so far, of course it gives them the confidence and ability to cope with great pressure even in difficult conditions, if we compare the quality of the two teams, actually they are quite balanced even though Madrid are in worse condition than Manchester City at the moment in terms of player injuries, but Ancelotti tactical and strategic skills has managed to cover every flaw they have at the moment, the second leg will be a very crucial match for both teams although Madrid is currently ahead agregat goal from Manchester City, but I think all possibilities can still happen in leg second later, so I think, Madrid fans should not be too confident for now over their victory in the first leg yesterday Grin.

When talking about the champion mentality, both teams have won the UCL, the difference is that Madrid has won the UCL more often than Manchester City.

When talking about the quality of players from both clubs, it is undeniable that both Real Madrid and Manchester City are filled with quality players, even in the middle of this season, Man City has been quite aggressive in deepening the depth of its squad by recruiting the best players.

For now, the aggregate goal between Man City and Real Madrid is 1 goal. and with a fairly thin aggregate, Real Madrid still cannot fully guarantee that they will qualify for the round of 16, especially in the next match it is an away match for Real Madrid. and maybe in that match both teams will play all out to compete for one place in the round of 16.
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