UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season

[iBaba]

It doesn't make sense that Manchester City is so fragile just because of Rodri's absence, but the absence of Rodri has caused Manchester City to lose a lot and they can't find an alternative to replace him. Real Madrid is the absolute favorite for the return match. Real Madrid's European success has always been admirable and they can continue this every time, there is no other team that can do this.

Although Manchester City's modern, fast and attack-oriented game will still make Real Madrid difficult, Real Madrid will use this as an advantage due to their defensive weaknesses.

Manchester City is fragile because of Rodri's absence in real sense. Guardiola announced much earlier that Nicon Gonzalez will help them plug in the gap which is left by the Rodri's absence but truth of the matter is that Rodri's absence will continue to be left out until a more stronger midfield takes in the gap. Pep Guardiola didn't do so much in terms of the back up players. Ancelotti have done well in working hard on his backups unlike the Guardiola team who is battling for survival.

[mv1986]

It doesn't make sense that Manchester City is so fragile just because of Rodri's absence, but the absence of Rodri has caused Manchester City to lose a lot and they can't find an alternative to replace him. Real Madrid is the absolute favorite for the return match. Real Madrid's European success has always been admirable and they can continue this every time, there is no other team that can do this.

Although Manchester City's modern, fast and attack-oriented game will still make Real Madrid difficult, Real Madrid will use this as an advantage due to their defensive weaknesses.

Manchester City is fragile because of Rodri's absence in real sense. Guardiola announced much earlier that Nicon Gonzalez will help them plug in the gap which is left by the Rodri's absence but truth of the matter is that Rodri's absence will continue to be left out until a more stronger midfield takes in the gap. Pep Guardiola didn't do so much in terms of the back up players. Ancelotti have done well in working hard on his backups unlike the Guardiola team who is battling for survival.

That's only one little fraction of any logic explanation that could give reason to the downfall of Manchester City this season. If it was one player that pulls down the whole team due to his absence, in my opinion that would be another weakness of any top team. There can be dependencies and there can be a weakening due to one player missing for a long time, but Manchester City turned into a wreck of a team compared to what they were once able to play and to dominate almost any other team, no matter which team it was from the top list of European clubs.

[ginsan]

Manchester City is fragile because of Rodri's absence in real sense. Guardiola announced much earlier that Nicon Gonzalez will help them plug in the gap which is left by the Rodri's absence but truth of the matter is that Rodri's absence will continue to be left out until a more stronger midfield takes in the gap. Pep Guardiola didn't do so much in terms of the back up players. Ancelotti have done well in working hard on his backups unlike the Guardiola team who is battling for survival.

For me, the performance of Manchester City players has declined relatively not because of Rodri's absence but they were unable to play well after they took the lead through a goal scored by Haaland. Some Manchester City players did not show their good game at all like Silva. I think Pep needs to rotate players by giving reserve players to help them in the second leg later.

However, it is not an easy matter for Manchester City this season. They have lost many opportunities that they should have been able to take advantage of to win in the first leg. Failure in the first leg certainly discourages us from betting on their victory in the second leg later, because it takes a miracle to be able to beat Real Madrid at the Bernabeu.

[Obari]

Manchester City is fragile because of Rodri's absence in real sense. Guardiola announced much earlier that Nicon Gonzalez will help them plug in the gap which is left by the Rodri's absence but truth of the matter is that Rodri's absence will continue to be left out until a more stronger midfield takes in the gap. Pep Guardiola didn't do so much in terms of the back up players. Ancelotti have done well in working hard on his backups unlike the Guardiola team who is battling for survival.

The UEFA Champions League title is mainly for the best among the best. It's noticeable how these elite teams runs in for winning games and having achievements triggered. Manchester City are going through a phase this season, what more do you expect from the Citizens? Pep Guardiola is in absolute control of every activities in the team. There's possibly no way Pep Guardiola will be present in Etihad stadium and watch his side crumbled in the UEFA Champions League. He's doing everything he can to instruct the route of the team, back to top standing. Pep Guardiola have been in full action because his job is at risk, he will take his chances if he spots one.

[Weawant]

The second leg would prolly be as interesting as the first leg, though Real Madrid already have one foot in the next round, City are a complete shadow of themselves and i don't think they have the psychological strength to go to the Bernabeu and win the game and also the tie. The manner in which City collapsed in the first leg is indeed terrible, leading 2-1 with five minutes remaining, only to lose 3-2 is definitely a "confidence killer" and it all but sealed their fate.

Since Madrid will be playing from home I doubt t if they are going to have a reason to want to loose this game so I'm not thinking City will have a chance with this as much as Madrid,  even in their poor form, Madrid has not done really terribly at home so I doubt if city will actually get a chance,  they may be able to score a goal but I don't see them winning this game and I don't think a draw is even an option,  city may likely exit the UCL for this season after this second leg.

[BITCOIN4X]

~Snip

When talking about the champion mentality, both teams have won the UCL, the difference is that Madrid has won the UCL more often than Manchester City.

When talking about the quality of players from both clubs, it is undeniable that both Real Madrid and Manchester City are filled with quality players, even in the middle of this season, Man City has been quite aggressive in deepening the depth of its squad by recruiting the best players.

For now, the aggregate goal between Man City and Real Madrid is 1 goal. and with a fairly thin aggregate, Real Madrid still cannot fully guarantee that they will qualify for the round of 16, especially in the next match it is an away match for Real Madrid. and maybe in that match both teams will play all out to compete for one place in the round of 16.

You are right, Real Madrid is not completely safe from qualifying for the round of 16 even though they have secured a 2-3 win in the first leg. Manchester City is basically still a team that can threaten Real Madrid to qualify for the last 16 and maybe also win the second leg, but Real Madrid seems to be the favorite at home.

This scenario is clearly very profitable for Real Madrid because usually Real Madrid tends to play more violently at home. Pep Guardiola had to find a way to take an early lead in the first half to give his team a higher chance of qualifying for the last 16, but then he also had to improve his team's very weak defence. Manchester City concede very easily, they tend to be weak there.

[Spaceman1000$]

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Madrid have a strong winning mentality in the UCL and with their great experience and history in the UCL so far, of course it gives them the confidence and ability to cope with great pressure even in difficult conditions, if we compare the quality of the two teams, actually they are quite balanced even though Madrid are in worse condition than Manchester City at the moment in terms of player injuries, but Ancelotti tactical and strategic skills has managed to cover every flaw they have at the moment, the second leg will be a very crucial match for both teams although Madrid is currently ahead agregat goal from Manchester City, but I think all possibilities can still happen in leg second later, so I think, Madrid fans should not be too confident for now over their victory in the first leg yesterday .

When talking about the champion mentality, both teams have won the UCL, the difference is that Madrid has won the UCL more often than Manchester City.

When talking about the quality of players from both clubs, it is undeniable that both Real Madrid and Manchester City are filled with quality players, even in the middle of this season, Man City has been quite aggressive in deepening the depth of its squad by recruiting the best players.

For now, the aggregate goal between Man City and Real Madrid is 1 goal. and with a fairly thin aggregate, Real Madrid still cannot fully guarantee that they will qualify for the round of 16, especially in the next match it is an away match for Real Madrid. and maybe in that match both teams will play all out to compete for one place in the round of 16.

Although the style of play Madrid approached that match with, I sincerely don't find it too interesting, the suspense and drama would actually want to make you have a rethink if it will be easy in the return leg for Madrid at the Santiago Bernabéu, although they will definitely have some home advantage and am already hearing that Antonio Rüdiger will be available for that game, meaning their might be some difference in Madrid defence line because it was really porous in that encounter.

However in terms of quality players, there is no doubt that both teams have them, but it's looking like Real Madrid are the better side in terms of quality players that make impact, they are at the top of the Spanish la Liga and are also doing well in the champions league, but we cannot say the same for Manchester city, Manchester city is finding it difficult to win even game in their domestic League and as well struggling to maintain a spot a the top four. So in the return leg, I still would want to give it to Madrid.

[liuka]

The UEFA Champions League title is mainly for the best among the best. It's noticeable how these elite teams runs in for winning games and having achievements triggered. Manchester City are going through a phase this season, what more do you expect from the Citizens? Pep Guardiola is in absolute control of every activities in the team. There's possibly no way Pep Guardiola will be present in Etihad stadium and watch his side crumbled in the UEFA Champions League. He's doing everything he can to instruct the route of the team, back to top standing. Pep Guardiola have been in full action because his job is at risk, he will take his chances if he spots one.

Indeed, becoming a champion in the Champions League certainly has to defeat strong opponents and it requires quite a hard sacrifice from each team to reach the final round. As Dortmund did last season where they were considered too weak from the start but they were able to prove their performance by defeating many strong opponents and reaching the final. But in the final they were defeated by Real Madrid.

However, this season of course the strongest team will be able to reach the final but for now we do not know which team will go to the final. However, several teams are very favored to advance to the final such as Barcelona, ​​Liverpool and Real Madrid. But for now it is certainly too early to discuss it because we still have not seen their struggle in the last 16.

[coinlocket$]

Putting such a controversial penalty in the final minutes is a very strange decision. Two players fought and the Atalanta player almost did not touch the Brugge player, but he fell to the ground as if an asteroid hit him.
In general, the refereeing was very strange not only in this match, but also in the Monaco-Benfica match, when the Benfica player got two red cards, begged for yellow cards, but in the end the referee removed the Monaco player, who simply showed a gesture that the Benfica player should be shown a yellow card and was immediately removed from the field.

The referee was one that in the past go already made controversial stuff, it is what it is.
They need to change VAR and give the option to teams to call a review like they do in other sports like volleyball.
They need to give 2 calls per team and if you do a wrong call you lose 1 call, and if you do correctly you keep 2 others calls.

[SatoPrincess]

Man City were overconfident and their fans had provoked them with big banners, but who is crying now for a comeback?

Overconfidence has affected Manchester City on different levels this season and that is why many people are now happy that they are having a taste of the medicine that they served to other clubs for so many seasons because their overconfidence started becoming arrogant. The Etihad stadium used to be a strong hold before where Manchester City rarely lost games, but this season, it has not mattered, a few clubs have visited the Etihad and dominated the game to the extent of winning it.
When Manchester City will go to Real Madrid stadium to play the second leg, I do not think they will overturn this result easily because they can not guarantee that they do not get scored more goals while they are trying to get a goal for the comeback.
In the Celtic game, I will not be shocked to see them win Bayern, the experience of the coach may come into usefulness.

I can point a good number of people on this thread who are enjoying the current situation Manchester City are facing at the moment and it’s understandable tbh. For some years, Manchester City have enjoyed a show of dominance in the Premier League and every other team have suffered at some point or the other while City enjoyed victories from splashing big amounts in transfer windows, overrunning financial rules. I don’t see them overturning the results at the Santiago Bernabeu though, it will be even tougher than it was at the Etihad for City.

[LUCKMCFLY]

This season could be the first in a long time where City win nothing. And should that happen, questions will be asked. Guardiola's contract runs until 2025; should he finish empty-handed, does he even stay? If he walks before the rebuild begins, one would not be surprised

This is something that causes a lot of controversy, on the one hand Pep is a great coach, for me one of the best in the world, unfortunately he is going through a moment where his life is not very good, he must be totally out of control at the moment , it is Something that as humans we see from another point of view, I hope he gets out of this problem and can overcome it, if the club sees this and leaves him I would say that it is a club that is one of the few in the world that still has some humanity left, but if we look at it from the point of view of bad results he will simply be fired.

[SatoPrincess]

Juventus won against PSV, as many predicted, although they did not play well in the game; in my opinion, they were just lucky to win as a club with a home advantage. PSV has more ball possession and shooting attempts than Juventus. The match was boring to watch since Juventus' attackers did not attack in the way that I expected. They must improve in the second leg since PSV will host it, and a one goal differential does not guarantee qualification; PSV may surprise us in the second leg by defeating Juventus with a lot of goals.

Furthermore, I don't think the Champions League officials want Manchester City or Real Madrid to go to the next round of the competition, which is why they will be facing each other in the playoffs. If Manchester City or Real Madrid go out of the Champions League this early, I don't think the tournament will be any more interesting since the game we watched yesterday appeared to be a final, and I am confident that this will be Manchester City's final Champions League game this season.

Close one for Juventus against PSV on Tuesday night, the champions league is indeed a contest of champions. Good job Thiago Motta, they have a lead advantage going into the second leg of the tie. I really hope they can maintain this performance in the second leg because it will be PSV playing at home and off course it will be a tough one. If both City and Real Madrid get eliminated from the tournament, it will be even more interesting for me because the other teams left will step up and fight very hard for the title knowing all obstacles are out of the way.

[imamusma]

This season could be the first in a long time where City win nothing. And should that happen, questions will be asked. Guardiola's contract runs until 2025; should he finish empty-handed, does he even stay? If he walks before the rebuild begins, one would not be surprised

This is something that causes a lot of controversy, on the one hand Pep is a great coach, for me one of the best in the world, unfortunately he is going through a moment where his life is not very good, he must be totally out of control at the moment , it is Something that as humans we see from another point of view, I hope he gets out of this problem and can overcome it, if the club sees this and leaves him I would say that it is a club that is one of the few in the world that still has some humanity left, but if we look at it from the point of view of bad results he will simply be fired.

I think Manchester City top brass will not fire Pep Guardiola, even if they end this season without a single trophy. Every team will go through difficult times, of course there are many factors behind it, including off-field factors. In my opinion, the separation will only happen when Pep Guardiola chooses to resign. Firing Pep Guardiola is a very disrespectful act, if you only look at the defeat statistics, after the number of trophies he has presented so far. Manchester City still have a chance to turn things around in the Champions League, although the chances are slim. In the Premier League, they still have a chance to finish in the top four, it we would be unfair to judge them too badly.

[SatoPrincess]

I don't see City players playing as they should, Bernardo Silva, De Bruyne are so inconsistent. Akanji is still playing quite disciplined, their defense is a little stronger. unfortunately, he is injured. so is Gvardiol, unfortunately Ruben Dias played badly. J Stones as a single pivot is quite good, but Mbappe's goal damaged their mentality. since Ake was pulled and replaced by Kovacic, it made their game a little chaotic, as did Rico Lewis. in Madrid's camp, in the first half they didn't play as a team, in the second half Ancelotti's team started to play more freely. City still played offensively, but Madrid started to be able to control the tempo. this match should have resulted in a draw, unfortunately for City because Real Madrid was able to score their winning goal in the final minutes of the match. as a result, Manchester City had to admit that Real Madrid was much more prepared than them. playing at the Etihad Stadium did not make City able to get full points, in the second leg it will be very difficult for City to qualify for the next phase. Today there is another match in the playoff phase, although not very interesting but quite exciting if involved in betting.

Honestly City tried on the night, they played better than I expected based on their current form I expected the game to be a bit easier for Real Madrid but City show confidence and resilience from the first half to take the lead twice in the game but as we know Real Madrid tend to be very lucky when it comes to the champions league, everything seem to work out for them in the champions league. Legend has it that in the Champions Leageu, Courtois can throw the ball from his post and it will bounce through the pitch and into the opponents post lol.

[tusandii]

I think Manchester City top brass will not fire Pep Guardiola, even if they end this season without a single trophy. Every team will go through difficult times, of course there are many factors behind it, including off-field factors. In my opinion, the separation will only happen when Pep Guardiola chooses to resign. Firing Pep Guardiola is a very disrespectful act, if you only look at the defeat statistics, after the number of trophies he has presented so far. Manchester City still have a chance to turn things around in the Champions League, although the chances are slim. In the Premier League, they still have a chance to finish in the top four, it we would be unfair to judge them too badly.

Pep Guardiola has become a historic coach for Manchester City and for 9 seasons he has presented 17 trophies and even won a treble winner which is very rare for other clubs to get even Real Madrid itself has never achieved that achievement so just because there is a decline during this season I think he will not be easily fired because the club has really appreciated Pep Guardiola's hard work so far and the club will definitely give Pep Guardiola time to improve Man City's performance, but if Pep Guardiola really objects and he does not want to continue to feel burdened I think he might resign because maybe he does not want to drop his self-esteem because maybe he is worried that Man City will fire him dishonorably.

[mamesso]

~Snip~

Pep Guardiola has become a historic coach for Manchester City and for 9 seasons he has presented 17 trophies and even won a treble winner which is very rare for other clubs to get even Real Madrid itself has never achieved that achievement so just because there is a decline during this season I think he will not be easily fired because the club has really appreciated Pep Guardiola's hard work so far and the club will definitely give Pep Guardiola time to improve Man City's performance, but if Pep Guardiola really objects and he does not want to continue to feel burdened I think he might resign because maybe he does not want to drop his self-esteem because maybe he is worried that Man City will fire him dishonorably.

During his coaching period, Man City has transformed into a club that always wins trophies every season, the peak of its success when it managed to present a Treble winner that had never been achieved by a previous coach. City are in crisis now, they need a minimum 2-0 win at Madrid to qualify, but if they fail, the board will not take the big step of sacking Guardiola.

[Hirose UK]

It doesn't make sense that Manchester City is so fragile just because of Rodri's absence, but the absence of Rodri has caused Manchester City to lose a lot and they can't find an alternative to replace him. Real Madrid is the absolute favorite for the return match. Real Madrid's European success has always been admirable and they can continue this every time, there is no other team that can do this.

Although Manchester City's modern, fast and attack-oriented game will still make Real Madrid difficult, Real Madrid will use this as an advantage due to their defensive weaknesses.

Manchester City is fragile because of Rodri's absence in real sense. Guardiola announced much earlier that Nicon Gonzalez will help them plug in the gap which is left by the Rodri's absence but truth of the matter is that Rodri's absence will continue to be left out until a more stronger midfield takes in the gap. Pep Guardiola didn't do so much in terms of the back up players. Ancelotti have done well in working hard on his backups unlike the Guardiola team who is battling for survival.

Rodri has always been very productive midfielder, in helping the attack or even being behind to strengthen the defense, he provides convenience in creating quality playing power and the absence of this midfielder makes the proportion of Manchester City game change even with substitute players can not really fill the void as well as expected.
And when distinguishing between Pep and Ancelotti then we will find significant difference, Ancelotti with Real Madrid has reliable reserve players and they can target players who are really useful, unlike Pep with Manchester City who overall the reserve players are not really able to perform consistently.
But it pretty good now Manchester City has looked better than at the beginning of the season when the crucial problem of the player crisis situation began.

[lizarder]

You are right, Real Madrid is not completely safe from qualifying for the round of 16 even though they have secured a 2-3 win in the first leg. Manchester City is basically still a team that can threaten Real Madrid to qualify for the last 16 and maybe also win the second leg, but Real Madrid seems to be the favorite at home.

This scenario is clearly very profitable for Real Madrid because usually Real Madrid tends to play more violently at home. Pep Guardiola had to find a way to take an early lead in the first half to give his team a higher chance of qualifying for the last 16, but then he also had to improve his team's very weak defence. Manchester City concede very easily, they tend to be weak there.

The moral condition of Man City players after accepting defeat at home will certainly be different when playing at Real Madrid's home so that the pressure will be much greater when playing at the Santiago Bernabeu. Real Madrid can play much safer in the second leg and they have a much greater chance of qualifying for the round of 16 even though Man City will later provide quite fierce resistance. Overall the defense of both teams looks weaker but the mentality of Real Madrid players is much better so they can face the pressure.

Leading first does not guarantee that Man City can win the match because we can see when the match took place at Man City's home and even though they were ahead first but were unable to maintain the advantage so Real Madrid took the opportunity to get three goals.

[Jatiluhung]

It doesn't make sense that Manchester City is so fragile just because of Rodri's absence, but the absence of Rodri has caused Manchester City to lose a lot and they can't find an alternative to replace him. Real Madrid is the absolute favorite for the return match. Real Madrid's European success has always been admirable and they can continue this every time, there is no other team that can do this.

Although Manchester City's modern, fast and attack-oriented game will still make Real Madrid difficult, Real Madrid will use this as an advantage due to their defensive weaknesses.

Indeed, Rodri's absence certainly cannot be the reason that most of Man City's performance is not good, although there is a difference when Rodri is on the field. But of course Pep Guardiola's absence Rodri should still make City good. However, in my opinion, what Pep needs to improve is his sharpness and utilization of opportunities which must be improved because I see that Man City sometimes does not take full advantage of opportunities and also City's defense line is easy to penetrate so of course Pep Guardiola must also be able to make City's defense line better.

Real Madrid are indeed favorites in the upcoming second leg match because even though their defense line is reduced, seeing the fact that their last match at the Etihad went well certainly makes them have the potential to win at home. But of course Pep will try his best so that his team performs brilliantly at Real Madrid's headquarters and of course we can't predict for sure who will win because of course in the last match Man City was the one who scored the goal first and the goal difference was not that big so of course this will definitely make the match difficult to predict and friends also have favorites for City to win and there is also Real Madrid.
But yes, Real Madrid still seems to be many people's favorite.

[khiholangkang]

This season could be the first in a long time where City win nothing. And should that happen, questions will be asked. Guardiola's contract runs until 2025; should he finish empty-handed, does he even stay? If he walks before the rebuild begins, one would not be surprised

This is something that causes a lot of controversy, on the one hand Pep is a great coach, for me one of the best in the world, unfortunately he is going through a moment where his life is not very good, he must be totally out of control at the moment , it is Something that as humans we see from another point of view, I hope he gets out of this problem and can overcome it, if the club sees this and leaves him I would say that it is a club that is one of the few in the world that still has some humanity left, but if we look at it from the point of view of bad results he will simply be fired.

Yes, we see that Guardiola is one of the best coaches but the name of the ability and also the development of the competition and also with the nature of manusawi, of course there is an ups and downs of the ability and also strength especially in very tight competition in football this is very reasonable because it is impossible for Guardiola Throughout his life continued to win because he was not a god but it was because he was human.

Of course, if Guardiola does not improvise or change defeat continuously, this is most likely he will be fired from Manchester City, it is the most appropriate answer even though he once got an extraordinary victory with Manchester City.