⚽ FIFA Club World Cup 2025 - USA: Discussion Thread ⚽

[satscraper]

My applauds to Borussia team. They didn’t mess up their chance and pulled off 4:3 win despite playing in extremely tough conditions because +32°C is no joke, especially for European players. Mamelodi Sundowns players are clearly more used to that kind of heat, so it wasn’t an easy game. To play it safe, I placed the combo bet on the match, and thankfully it paid off:

[shinratensei_]

FT Inter win 2-1. Such a nice comeback from Intermilan. They were so struggle to score since Urawa put all of their players inside the box. I also aware how things worsen when Lautaro was not playing in the box, which made it even more difficult to score.
It's reflected from the stats about how Urawa did park the bus by having very low possession. Meanwhile, Inter tried so hard in this game.

Even if they missed Thuram and Dumfries, though they still able to win it even it's going through a hard game.
It's a painful experience for them, but their win boost their morale a lot.

Yea this win is a massive moral booster and it's a sign of relief for them because this particular game was a must win game since they drew their first game in this tournament against Monterey, a game everyone thought that they would have won easily, so  a lot of pressure was on their head to win this one here, that's why they fought very hard till the very end, which paid off at the dieing minutes.
Furthermore, I have said this before that at this particular stage, it's unwise to judge any team now because the of seriousness and the level of competitiveness is still low in this group stage level, where the competition is going to start hitting up is once they gets into the knockout stage, that's when we are going to see the type of quality of play we were expecting from the tournament from the very onset, so inter Milan and some other top teams that aren't in the best form right now shouldn't be judged harshly yet.

Yeah, a bit disappointed how Intermilan has to go through a tough game, but very important to be their evaluation. I can still see some positives such as ACL and Carboni scores in this game. They're young lads and deserve minutes to play.
The only negative is that they always lack of creativity when attacking. It must be their main concern in the upcoming game.

[traderethereum]

Inter in the end won their game.
They got their 1st victory in the end of the game at minute 92 and they have now 4 points.

Complicated win for them and now they are in a good position for the qualification for the final stage of the tournament.

In their next turn they will face their hardest opponent so far, River Plate.

Speaking about the River Plate match with Inter later will be interesting because each team will compete to be able to qualify for the next phase. River Plate and Inter collected four points.

Meanwhile, Javier Zanetti said that this match will determine who will finish at the top of the group.

[Solokan]

Mbappe's appearance is really missed by Real Madrid fans because Mbappe's appearance is always good in defending Real Madrid and of course now Mbappe is really needed by Real Madrid, the proof is when against Al Hilal in the Club World Cup match, Real Madrid could not win because the result was a draw, if Mbappe played, I think Real Madrid would have won at that time.

Source: https://sport.detik.com/sepakbola/bola-dunia/d-7976236/madrid-vs-pachuca-kondisi-mbappe-membaik-tapi/amp
In the Real Madrid match against Pachuca, of course we will not know who will win because of course Mbappe has the potential not to participate in the match against Pachuca because of course according to the news I heard, Mbappe's condition is still not fully fit. but of course in the Real Madrid match against Pachuca, it certainly cannot be taken lightly because of course Pachuca will also try to win against Real Madrid. but in my opinion Real Madrid will win and it seems that betting on Real Madrid's victory in that match is my choice, what about you guys?

Of course, we will see what strategy Xabi makes to build Real Madrid to perform better and what is certain is that now Real Madrid fans want to see Real Madrid win and certainly want to see Real Madrid advance to the last 16.

[bitzizzix]

Mbappe's appearance is really missed by Real Madrid fans because Mbappe's appearance is always good in defending Real Madrid and of course now Mbappe is really needed by Real Madrid, the proof is when against Al Hilal in the Club World Cup match, Real Madrid could not win because the result was a draw, if Mbappe played, I think Real Madrid would have won at that time.

Source: https://sport.detik.com/sepakbola/bola-dunia/d-7976236/madrid-vs-pachuca-kondisi-mbappe-membaik-tapi/amp
In the Real Madrid match against Pachuca, of course we will not know who will win because of course Mbappe has the potential not to participate in the match against Pachuca because of course according to the news I heard, Mbappe's condition is still not fully fit. but of course in the Real Madrid match against Pachuca, it certainly cannot be taken lightly because of course Pachuca will also try to win against Real Madrid. but in my opinion Real Madrid will win and it seems that betting on Real Madrid's victory in that match is my choice, what about you guys?

Of course, we will see what strategy Xabi makes to build Real Madrid to perform better and what is certain is that now Real Madrid fans want to see Real Madrid win and certainly want to see Real Madrid advance to the last 16.

Actually without Mbappe, Real Madrid should still be able to win the previous match against Al Hilal, but Al Hilal's defense is quite good and Real Madrid has difficulty penetrating their defense, but if Mbappe plays in the match, Real Madrid will most likely win and besides that Real Madrid's goalkeeper, Thibaut Courtois also played very well in saving his goal.

In the second match against Pachuca, Real Madrid must work even harder to maintain their chances of qualifying for the next phase and the pressure is getting bigger because their current position is only in second place and they must be able to win, and in my opinion Pachuca is an easy opponent for Real Madrid and their quality is still below Al Hilal who should be able to win this match. However, what we must know is that matches in the FIFA Club World Cup competition always have surprises that are not easy to predict and anything can still happen.

[Uruhara]

Finally, Inter Milan was able to show their strength again. And yes, in the first match with their new coach, we saw that Inter Milan didn't seem very reliable. But in this second match I think they performed extraordinary. They almost completely controlled the game. Both from dominating possession of the ball, in creating attacking opportunities and even in the number of shots which I think is very large, namely 26 shots. It's just quite unfortunate because Inter Milan were only able to get 4 shots on target out of a total of 26 shots. But yeah, luckily 2 became goals. So the score in the match was 2-1. But I feel that Inter Milan's defense is not as good as usual. They even conceded immediately at the start of the match, namely in the 11th minute by Ryoma Watanabe. And it was quite surprising to me at the time. Because Inter Milan couldn't even reply in the first half. Fortunately, in the second half, when it was actually almost the end of the match, we saw Inter Milan equalize the score and then score another goal in added time. Inter Milan was a little late in developing their game. But yeah, this is still better than the first match.

[WatChe]

Urawa Reds were just to register their historic win against mighty Inter Milan but late goals from Lautaro and Valentien has kept Milan into the tournament. Milan is a strong team but in this club football it's there first win in two matches. The last game of Inter Milan will be against River Plate and they need to win that in order to make it round of 16 because if Milan it's last game and Monterrey win it's last game against Red Diamonds then Milan wont qualify for the next round.

[yenerbatmaz]

Brazilian teams continue to make their mark in the cup.
Fluminense increased their points total to four by beating Ulsan Hora 4-2 in their last match.
Fluminense scored four goals but missed more than they scored.
Ulsan had 3 shots on target, two of which were goals.
Ulsan's last match will be against Mamel Sundown, but this will be their toughest match. Ulsan has no target in this cup. I think Mamel will win this match.

[Solokan]

Not the best look for Chelsea for losing 3-1 to Flamengo.
Flamengo is one of the top Brazilian clubs and the current leader of the table, but Chelsea is one of the top teams of the strongest league in the world, Premier League. A loss could happen to anyone, but Flamengo dominated in almost every aspect of the game, which is a bit of a surprise.
It's not the end of the world for Chelsea, they are placed 2nd in Group D and all they need is at least a draw in their last match of the group stage against ES Tunis.

A minimal but fully deserved 2-1 win by Bayern over Boca Juniors means Bayern have already secured the spot in the round of 16. They can now give some key players some rest in the last match of the group stage.

I personally did not expect Chelsea to lose to Flamengo because of course Chelsea is a team that I consider stronger than Flamengo but yes this is football of course there are always surprises and indeed if you look at Flamengo's game it looks like Flamengo played very well and it is natural that Flamengo could beat Chelsea. but what I regret is that Jackson had to get a red card and of course at that time Chelsea was forced to play with 10 men and of course if Jackson did not get a red card maybe Chelsea could have played with a draw. but of course in this case Flamengo was really lucky and also deserved to be able to qualify for the last 16 considering its good strength.

It is true that Chelsea's defeat is not the end of everything because Chelsea is currently in 2nd position in Group D. But of course in my opinion it will not be easy for Chelsea to beat Es Tunis because of course in their last match Es Tunis managed to beat LAFC with a score of 0-1 and also when Es Tunis played against Flamengo of course the score was 2-0 even though Es Tunis lost which of course is different from the Chelsea vs Flamengo match which ended with a score of 3-1 for Flamengo's victory.

yes of course we'll see what Chelsea do in their last match against Es Tunis and it will definitely be very exciting because of course Es Tunis also wants to qualify for the last 16. but yes of course Chelsea must be vigilant but yes of course even if it's a draw Chelsea will qualify for the last 16. but in the Chelsea vs Es Tunis match in my opinion Chelsea will win what do you think? Bayern is indeed extraordinary and indeed he deserves to be in the last 16 because Bayern's game is good and it is true that some key players can certainly be rested because of course Bayern is safe now and of course in the match against Benfica Bayern will go through it calmly.

[X-ray]

Mbappe's appearance is really missed by Real Madrid fans because Mbappe's appearance is always good in defending Real Madrid and of course now Mbappe is really needed by Real Madrid, the proof is when against Al Hilal in the Club World Cup match, Real Madrid could not win because the result was a draw, if Mbappe played, I think Real Madrid would have won at that time.

Mbappe is not the only player that deserve to play in Madrid's squad. Madrid has so many players who also deserve minutes to play. They have so many young lads such as Guler, Endrick, and many more. Always being Mbappe centric ain't good. Let give minutes to the other players to develop them.
It's not a wise when you're putting everything to the Mbappe's shoulder. Are you willing to see Madrid to be the next PSG who relied everything upon him? Come on man!

[Velvet78]

Today there are 2 nice games which might be good choices for betting...

If I bet on Real Madrid and Juventus wins, the total odds are only 1.82. It isn't very attracting honestly if I'm not going to risk a big amount of money.

As I don't think of throwing that much, I'm considering -1.5 handicap for both teams in the same parlay. The risk is bigger but 3.78 total odds are just great too. 

[aylabadia05]

Urawa Reds were just to register their historic win against mighty Inter Milan but late goals from Lautaro and Valentien has kept Milan into the tournament. Milan is a strong team but in this club football it's there first win in two matches. The last game of Inter Milan will be against River Plate and they need to win that in order to make it round of 16 because if Milan it's last game and Monterrey win it's last game against Red Diamonds then Milan wont qualify for the next round.

Yesterday I watched this match and up to the 74th minute Inter Milan were still losing despite Inter Milan dominating the game.
Lauturo's goal saved Inter Milan's defeat until Valentin Carboni's goal finally brought Inter Milan out as the winner of the match.

Cristian Chivu must take lessons after this match even though the team Inter Milan faced yesterday was Urawa Reds as a team from Japan.
If you want to qualify, you can't lose in the final match against River Plate. This group situation will be interesting.

[Liliana1304]

These Brazilian teams are really something else. They are making football look so easy that you'd think that there's no effort being put into playing but you can see their drive. Yesterday, Fluminese played Ulsan HD and I thought that they would win the game without much stress but there was a plot twist and the away team seemed to turn the game on it's head and took the lead but that didn't stop the Brazilians. It's as if they vowed to keep an unbeaten record and weren't willing to be bested by a team that wasn't up to their level.

In group F, Dortmund and Fluminese are equal on point but Fluminese top by goal difference. Mamelodi Sundowns would have to do better if they hope to get anything and it will be a bit difficult because they play Fluminese next.
Dortmund on the other hand may have an easy game when they play Ulsan HD for their last game so in all I'd say it's going to be a tough game for either Fluminese or Mamelodi Sundowns.

[MArsland]

Still haven't found an exciting match, and for now the opponent is not a team that is a serious threat so there are not many expectations for each big team that competes. After seeing the next schedule on matchday 3/3 Benfica vs Munich, Juve vs ManCity and RB Salzburg vs Madrid will be a spectacle worth looking forward to.

[Ryu_Ar1]

In the Real Madrid match against Pachuca, of course we will not know who will win because of course Mbappe has the potential not to participate in the match against Pachuca because of course according to the news I heard, Mbappe's condition is still not fully fit. but of course in the Real Madrid match against Pachuca, it certainly cannot be taken lightly because of course Pachuca will also try to win against Real Madrid. but in my opinion Real Madrid will win and it seems that betting on Real Madrid's victory in that match is my choice, what about you guys?

Of course, we will see what strategy Xabi makes to build Real Madrid to perform better and what is certain is that now Real Madrid fans want to see Real Madrid win and certainly want to see Real Madrid advance to the last 16.

Facing the Mexican representative, I think Madrid will still be with a squad that is not much different from their game in the first match, at this time Mbappe is still not fully fit, they also still have some problems because of the injuries of the players who are not over so it is likely that for the attack they will still rely on Vini, Garcia and Rodrygo.

This is an opportunity for Garcia if he is given more playing time then obviously this is a good thing for him because he really needs it.
But indeed regardless of who the players are at this time Madrid must get 3 points in the second match because this is something that must be done to keep their hopes of still qualifying for the next phase. However, we are all aware that the Club World Cup sometimes throws up unexpected surprises although I still expect and feel that Madrid will get the 3 points in this match.

[Lillominato89]

Urawa Reds were just to register their historic win against mighty Inter Milan but late goals from Lautaro and Valentien has kept Milan into the tournament. Milan is a strong team but in this club football it's there first win in two matches. The last game of Inter Milan will be against River Plate and they need to win that in order to make it round of 16 because if Milan it's last game and Monterrey win it's last game against Red Diamonds then Milan wont qualify for the next round.

Yesterday I watched this match and up to the 74th minute Inter Milan were still losing despite Inter Milan dominating the game.
Lauturo's goal saved Inter Milan's defeat until Valentin Carboni's goal finally brought Inter Milan out as the winner of the match.

Cristian Chivu must take lessons after this match even though the team Inter Milan faced yesterday was Urawa Reds as a team from Japan.
If you want to qualify, you can't lose in the final match against River Plate. This group situation will be interesting.

If we analyze the standings of Inter's group we can say that Inter River Plate and Monterrey are still in the running to get past the group
But only two teams can get the pass, Monterrey will have to challenge the Japanese Urawa who is now eliminated
Inter will have to beat River Plate if Monterrey wins, because a draw would place them in third place due to goal difference. So yes, this group is very interesting, and the last match will be really exciting.

[Polkeins]

Comparison between teams cannot be done when some teams have played 38 matches in their domestic league plus the whole Cup matches and Champions League games, and between other teams that was kicked early from the Cup, Champions League and played two games less at least in their league.
The amount of exhaustion and instability could be felt in the results of these teams.

It's nobody's fault the European side are somewhat underperforming in this club world cup due to some factors beyond their control, this same European clubs should have protested to FIFA that they needed more time to rest rather than jump into a tournament in less than one month before the end of the previous season, you can easily detect how tiring it is for the likes of Inter, PSG, Real Madrid, Chelsea and the rest of the European teams involved, this isn't healthy at all, imho.

All European teams that participate in the championship, perhaps except Borussia Dortmund, have the opportunity to field a reserve squad or their young promising young players who would gain experience, but for some reason they don't and that's the real mystery.

Now for example Inter are losing to Urawa red Diamonds and Inter are playing with their main squad with Sommer and Lautaro Martinez.
Apparently Kivu is still afraid to lose and spoil the start of work at Inter and so he puts the strongest lineup for the game, but it does not work out very well.

Inter have gotten an equaliser through their skipper, Lautaro Martinez with just a few minutes to play for, it's seems to me like Inter is going to snatch a late winner due to their dominance, let's see how much longer the Japanese can hold on before the referee sound the final whistle, it has been quite an interesting game tonight at the Seattle stadium. The CWC is gradually getting more interesting with each passing day of the tournament.

Everything went as you said and Inter managed to snatch the win in the 92nd minute of the match. Of course you can see that the class of the teams is different and at 91 minute, a minute before the goal, when the Urawa goalkeeper kicked the ball over the sideline just a few players of Urawa red Diamonds did not return to the defense on their half of the field and Inter players were more and it became clear that Urawa is simply not ready for such a game until the last minute, when a goal can be scored in the 95th or 96th minute and you have to play literally until the final whistle.

This club championship is definitely interesting, but unfortunately for Urawa they are out of the fight, because they will not get out of the group under any circumstances, but it should be noted that their games were attended by a lot of fans.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Today there are 2 nice games which might be good choices for betting...

If I bet on Real Madrid and Juventus wins, the total odds are only 1.82. It isn't very attracting honestly if I'm not going to risk a big amount of money.

As I don't think of throwing that much, I'm considering -1.5 handicap for both teams in the same parlay. The risk is bigger but 3.78 total odds are just great too. 

We don't need to be overconfident in a tournament like this and we also have to understand why PSG and Chelsea lost in the last match, instead of betting on a handicap -1.5 even betting on 1x2 sometimes makes us doubtful. We have no doubts about the abilities of these favorite teams but in other scenarios they do not prioritize winning for example just testing new strategies and new players, I think you get my point   as a betting option it is better to avoid betting on 1x2 well both teams to score might seem more interesting.

[X-ray]

Today there are 2 nice games which might be good choices for betting...

If I bet on Real Madrid and Juventus wins, the total odds are only 1.82. It isn't very attracting honestly if I'm not going to risk a big amount of money.

As I don't think of throwing that much, I'm considering -1.5 handicap for both teams in the same parlay. The risk is bigger but 3.78 total odds are just great too. 

For people who don't wanna deal with the huge risk, but just wanna try to double their money. Picking on Madrid and Juventus win are good choices(expect them to win narrow score) but not worthy when we're gamble small money just to double it.

So, i agree with you picking -1.5 handicap for both team makes sense. However, only doubting Real and Juve can win with the huge scores when they will play with their B teams.

[Tipstar]

Today there are 2 nice games which might be good choices for betting...

If I bet on Real Madrid and Juventus wins, the total odds are only 1.82. It isn't very attracting honestly if I'm not going to risk a big amount of money.

As I don't think of throwing that much, I'm considering -1.5 handicap for both teams in the same parlay. The risk is bigger but 3.78 total odds are just great too. 

For people who don't wanna deal with the huge risk, but just wanna try to double their money. Picking on Madrid and Juventus win are good choices(expect them to win narrow score) but not worthy when we're gamble small money just to double it.

So, i agree with you picking -1.5 handicap for both team makes sense. However, only doubting Real and Juve can win with the huge scores when they will play with their B teams.

Real Madrid is almost a sure win as it's playing with the weakest team on the group but Juventus would still be risky. Manchester City winning against Al-Ain would be another safe bet. Real Madrid, Juventus and Man City parley goes over 2 if anyone is interested. Or we could go with goal difference for easier matches like Real and City.
Though I'm getting anxious with the unexpected results on placing a multiple game parley, I also hope teams would work harder as it would be shame for the so called top teams to be eliminated from world cup early.