eXch - instant exchange BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20

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Warning to WhiteBit and Bestchange users who also use eXch:

Ukrainian service AMLBot and exchange WhiteBIT (registered in Lithuania with ukrainian and ex-russian citizen shareholders) have decided to start a malicious campaign against eXch.

Did I understand correctly? The AMLchek bot that was recently implemented on the Bestchange platform was created by Whitebit (whoever is behind it) or did Whitebit at least participate in its implementation?

[GazetaBitcoin]

We therefore declare that privacy is NOT a crime.

This reminds me of the words of the words of Phil Zimmermann... "If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy"...


At same time, I also want to announce that a Pidgin translation of OP was made by Nheer: eXch - instant exchange BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20. Thank you Nheer for this effort!

eXch, would you like to add this translation to OP...?

[bitmover]

I have recently send LTC from exch.cx to my wallet then directly to a local brazilian exchange foxbit. No problems!

I hope things continue to be like this. Good luck exch!

[Nheer]

At same time, I also want to announce that a Pidgin translation of OP was made nu Nheer: eXch - instant exchange BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20. Thank you Nheer for this effort!

Thank you GazetaBitcoin for announcing my translation here on the exchange’s main thread.

It is only right to let my country people know about this wonderful exchange and the services it offers. The instant exchange, the privacy it offers it's users and other benefits will be of great use and will make cryptocurrency transactions easier for lots of people there and the reputation of the exchange also makes it a great choice.

[SFR10]

Ukrainian service AMLBot and exchange WhiteBIT (registered in Lithuania with ukrainian and ex-russian citizen shareholders) have decided to start a malicious campaign against eXch.
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However, since AMLBot (and therefore WhiteBIT) teams don't like the fact our team knows many details about their shady past, they decided to attack our exchange in this specific way in attempt to influence other exchanges/risk providers which ain't going to work.

That's low, even for them ^[SMH]... I used to think it was just a faulty bot due to occasionally getting false-positive results, but now I'm realizing their true nature ^{[there's an ulterior motive behind the creation of this specific AML bot]}!
^{- Thank you for the heads-up and looking forward to reading the missing pieces.}

[LoyceV]

We therefore declare that privacy is NOT a crime.

Even better, privacy is a Human Right:

Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

[Lucius]

We therefore declare that privacy is NOT a crime.

Even better, privacy is a Human Right:

Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

If people stuck to at least 50% of what they put on paper, the world would be a much nicer place to live. Unfortunately, a lot of it is just dead letters on paper.


@eXch, if they attack you in such a way, then it is obvious that they think that you are their real competition, which means that they are desperate and ready to make such moves. Unfortunately for them, it seems that they don't know who they are dealing with, but I have no doubt that they will figure it out in the end.

[PrivacyG]

I was browsing F-Droid today and I was absolutely stunned to see eXch on the Repository.  I could not believe it and I feel ashamed I found out only now.  This is fantastic!

Bitcoin Fees are FINALLY low too so I can finally fulfill my wish and give it a try these days.  The Terms of Service, the principles they follow, the response to the New York Court, they all speak loud words for me.  Fantastic work, I really hope this is an Exchange that lasts a very long time.

[dkbit98]

I didn't know amlbot was directly connected with bestchange, and I never trusted any aml bots and similar tools used for risk rating of bitcoin addresses, but now I trust them even less.

So it looks like we got another FTX on our hands here, but smaller of course since they don't appear to be doing heavy advertising in the US like FTX used to do.

I don't see how FTX and it's owner Scam Bankman has any connection or similarities with this case, and most centralized created their won worthless tokens for profit, including binance etc.

[OmegaStarScream]

I didn't know amlbot was directly connected with bestchange, and I never trusted any aml bots and similar tools used for risk rating of bitcoin addresses, but now I trust them even less.

From what I understood, it's not affiliated with bestchange but rather the exchanges listed there. Since AFAIK, Bestchange doesn't hold any funds or accept any transactions, it just refers users to other exchanges.

WhiteBit seems to have their own AML checking service (if you have an account with them) for 1$ per check. The article[1] says "world class providers" is that a reference to AMLBot and other providers?

[1] https://help.whitebit.com/hc/en-gb/articles/15701994872733-AML-Checks

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From what I understood, it's not affiliated with bestchange but rather the exchanges listed there. Since AFAIK, Bestchange doesn't hold any funds or accept any transactions, it just refers users to other exchanges.

WhiteBit seems to have their own AML checking service (if you have an account with them) for 1$ per check. The article[1] says "world class providers" is that a reference to AMLBot and other providers?

[1] https://help.whitebit.com/hc/en-gb/articles/15701994872733-AML-Checks

Bestchange has an AML check service offered on its website. https://www.bestchange.com/report/ $0.2 per check. I don't know if their affiliate partners use the same method and what it has to do with what Whitebit offers. Maybe it's just a coincidence that everything happens in a short period.
It would certainly be a bad choice for Bestchange ^{and their partners} if they rely on the result coming from Whitebit.

[LoyceV]

~ AML checking service ~ for 1$ per check.

This is how they turned their attack on Bitcoin's fungibility into a money maker. They're selling the notion of taint based on arbitrary criteria.

Sarcasm on: Here's my list of tainted Bitcoin addresses (34 GB). It's free

[NotATether]

~ AML checking service ~ for 1$ per check.

This is how they turned their attack on Bitcoin's fungibility into a money maker. They're selling the notion of taint based on arbitrary criteria.

Thing is, this is less about what we think about taint, and more about what the exchanges we are using think about it. The ones we are using as offramps, not crypto-to-crypto exchanges.

If your deposit exceeds a specific but unspecified AML threshold then they are going to give you some trouble over it. And Bisq/Robosats aren't big enough to always find a reliable trader for selling.

[LoyceV]

Thing is, this is less about what we think about taint, and more about what the exchanges we are using think about it.

Just like banks, I believe they couldn't care less. All they care about is being compliant, so they can say "they tried their best". It doesn't really matter if the result is based on arbitrary criteria, and it doesn't matter that different exchanges use different criteria.

[dkbit98]

From what I understood, it's not affiliated with bestchange but rather the exchanges listed there. Since AFAIK, Bestchange doesn't hold any funds or accept any transactions, it just refers users to other exchanges.

I think it is.
They partnered with something called CrystalBlockchain like they publicly confirmed, and few months ago they started offering their own front end paid service for this stupid AML checks.
I don't care who created this thing in the first place, maybe it was some government agency as a way to attack bitcoin, but I was always against it.

[fillippone]

Thing is, this is less about what we think about taint, and more about what the exchanges we are using think about it.

Just like banks, I believe they couldn't care less. All they care about is being compliant, so they can say "they tried their best". It doesn't really matter if the result is based on arbitrary criteria, and it doesn't matter that different exchanges use different criteria.

Banks don't care about AML, but they do about regulators fining and punishing them. So they are overzealous in reporting AML suspicious activities of their customers, sending loads of reports to the regulators.
No one will ever complain about a suspicious activity report leading to nothing, while dire consequences are for the banks that do not signal a real illegal activity. When in doubt, signal.
My experience with other regulated agents, like the one operating  ATM in Europe, is that they tend to respect the bare minimum information required by regulators, but effectively reporting more than necessary in terms of transactions.

[BitMaxz]

I have recently send LTC from exch.cx to my wallet then directly to a local brazilian exchange foxbit. No problems!

I hope things continue to be like this. Good luck exch!

It works just fine I've tested exchanging BTC into USDC directly from exch and then to our local exchange but this time I tried the dynamic rate it seems it's a bit longer to process because it took more than 1 hour or maybe because of the fee that I set 3sat/vb then sudden network spikes. I don't have any problem I still receive it without any problem.

[GazetaBitcoin]

At same time, I also want to announce that a Pidgin translation of OP was made by Nheer: eXch - instant exchange BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20.

I have more good news for eXch, as there are 2 more translations available for this topic.

An Urdu translation was made recently by ThemePen and it can be found here: eXch - فوری تبادلہ BTC/LN/XMR/LTC/ETH/ERC20.
Additionally, paid2 told me that he also translated this thread a while ago. His French translation can be found here: eXch - échangez instantanément BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20.

eXch, would you like to add these 3 translations to OP, please?

[JollyGood]

Though it might be somewhat off-topic, it was discussed in the forum several years ago about coinsbit/p2pb2b/extrates/whitebit.

There were scam allegations against them and they have been cited as being connected therefore anybody dealing with any business that has a direct or indirect relation with any of them is advised to avoid them otherwise a loss of funds is a possibility.

Warning to WhiteBit and Bestchange users who also use eXch:

Ukrainian service AMLBot and exchange WhiteBIT (registered in Lithuania with ukrainian and ex-russian citizen shareholders) have decided to start a malicious campaign against eXch.

[SFR10]

Just spotted another phishing website that managed to stay under the radar for the past couple of weeks ^{[please take a minute guys to also report it]}:
^{- BTW, the first few characters of its onion link are exactly the same as the original one!}

Code:

exch.exchange

Creation Date: 2024-07-28
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: domainabuse@tucows.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4165350123

In addition to the above phishing website, I think we should also keep tabs on the following two:

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exch.email
exch.contact