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November 08, 2024, 03:55:32 PM
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Ask BingX exchange. If they believe Bitcoin isn't fungible, use a different exchange.

I asked the BingX exchange. I'm waiting to hear back from them. If they reply to me and I make the transaction without any problems, I will immediately report it here on the forum. But I would also like to see a response from an eXch rep or support.
You have got to be careful with the centralized exchanged. They change colors overnight and might also be using the same AML checkers. I have had fair a share of such ugly experience in the past  Smiley

If possible, just send in the coins in small batches so that when they block them/ You can send the rest else where while you work around releasing the trapped coins.

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 #1002

How constant success of eXch distracts competitors from focusing on their own business leading them to failure

We have noticed that one forum representative of a recently born exchanger named something like "The Change LTD" openly called us criminals and dishonest in their recent thread posts. We were actively monitoring progress of that particular exchanger during all its journey on Bitcointalk, from the launch of their marketing campaign to its end, wishing them to succeed because we don't like the fact we are the only centralized full non-KYC exchange around and we actively hope to get a decent competitors, which unfortunately didn't happen yet.

That exchanger from the neighbor subforum is a perfect example of a how to not do this business, since problems always come when such projects aiming to bring eXch some competition while failing to learn and understand the very basic keys to success in this business.

Three fundamental principles that help eXch to be what it is now are honesty, transparency and high standards in information security. We think that if a non-KYC exchanger lacks at least one of these, it shouldn't even think to join this business, because without these the project won't bring anything useful to the industry but will only make it worse because weak projects that lack or don't defend their ideologies often become victims of the regulatory pressure (i.e. corrupt practices of Ciphertrace that we will expose in one of our next posts). This is what exactly happened with that project who indirectly called us names in an apparent moment of frustration and failure.

That project adopted the strategy of relying on third-party exchanges hoping they will be able to get any significant audience/volume while deciding to team with guys that teach and indoctrinate their downstreams anti-crypto ideology.

Their new partners WhiteBit/AMLBot take dishonesty and disrespect towards crypto users as their key life principles, slowly contributing to destruction of neutral and decentralized cryptocurrency market.

WhiteBit/AMLBot while being criminals themselves with having funds sourced from russian carding projects and doing wash trading artificially pumping their WBT token to exorbitant heights using fraudulent practices, present themselves as visionaries of "clean" cryptocurrency that, in their opinion, do the good to "clean this space from cybercriminals" (that are in reality just innocent CoinJoin/privacy protocols users) by freezing its users and its partners users coins right and left without users being able even to have it back. They use various sets of AML/KYC policies to falsely accuse users of being criminals, having their partner AMLBot randomly marking addresses as high-risk up to their judgement without employing any transparency.

WhiteBit/AMLBot onboard small exchangers that need liquidity, like one the subject of this post, and start to indoctrinate them in their focused Telegram groups on what's good and what's evil consistently with their own interpretation of it, which basically consists of assuming any business/user that doesn't want to KYC their users/peers is evil criminal.

Interestingly enough, that specific small exchanger that started public hate campaign against us in their thread, has its origins on the forum called "Zelenka" where they have a public security deposit - a forum where a significant part of the russian cybercrime scene reside, sharing botnet/C2 related tools and exploits all over it. eXch has never advertised on cybercrime-oriented or darknet forums nor participated in illegal activities, but yet, that small exchanger called eXch criminals while most probably having criminal background themselves, given the nature of their origin forum.

Secondly, on calling eXch dishonest about its volumes. Anyone who thinks our volumes are exaggerated or unreal probably doesn't understand how we operate and how much effort we put into our operation, having as a return the necessary volume being made by our users which is necessary for any exchange that operates with its own liquidity. Our loyal users know very well that we were able to get from 50 BTC of base investment into 400 BTC of self-sustained liquidity just in less than 2 years (a) WITHOUT scamming a single user and (b) WITHOUT having to lie about our project operations to the general public. The only third-party we use is the decentralized Thorchain network that does not employ nonsense funds screening techniques (yet) and that is necessary for us to rebalance our liquidity. Apart from that, we do not rely on anyone but our own pools of wallets. We have provided our full proof of reserves many times. We are a cryptocurrency exchange in a full meaning of it.

Others who try to copy us or that lost their users because they now prefer eXch fail to understand what a proper business model consists of and at the end of day get blinded by their hate to us because they lack sufficient knowledge to deploy operational model like eXch has and team up with wrong guys like WhiteBit/AMLBot who make their situation even worse because of constant brainwashing and false prophecy.

Sometimes it's quite sad to see projects with potential chosing wrong path leading to their failure, which apparently still a reason we don't have any honorable competitor yet up to this date (ChangeNow and FixedFloat don't count since they are dishonest and continue to scam their users, thus many stay away from them already).

Meanwhile, we at eXch continue standing by open and neutral Internet and cryptocurrency, having honesty and transparency as our key principles.

And if anybody is curious on what we consider a big no-no, these are:

- ChatGPT for public communication
- calling your custodial wallet/exchange "non-custodial"
- having and promoting AML/KYC policies while lacking any understanding on them;
- relying on bad AML providers like AMLBot and promoting AML/KYC terrorism
- using "anonymity" and "privacy" terms in marketing and announcements without any practical realization of them
- reselling major CEX via API as a primary business model and complying to their AML/KYC policies without being transparent about it with your users
- assuming any of your customers who prefer to use coinjoin or other privacy tech are criminals
- giving a reason to other exchanges who promote AML/KYC terrorism
- bad infosec practices and lack of knowledge in the spectre
- using VPS instead of dedicated bare metal hardware to store data of your customers
- using Cloudflare without at least optimizing it to be Tor-friendly

Who knows, maybe it might be useful to somebody who will finally make a decent non-KYC exchange alternative to eXch.

God Bless neutral cryptocurrency market. Don't let the evil indoctrinate you.


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November 08, 2024, 05:13:42 PM
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We have noticed that one forum representative of a recently born exchanger named something like "The Change LTD" openly called us criminals and dishonest in their recent

For all those who want to see where it all came from. GO HERE
the accusations by The Change Ltd. reveal a fundamental misunderstanding of what truly drives success in the non-KYC exchange field. Their eagerness to call exch as 'criminal' or 'dishonest' only underscores the gap between exch's established success and their own struggles.

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Interestingly enough, that specific small exchanger that started public hate campaign against us in their thread, has its origins on the forum called "Zelenka" where they have a public security deposit [...]

Well noted ... I noticed this detail about a month ago as well [1]  Tongue

Quote from: icopress's response to The Change Ltd
Zelenka is an unreliable forum that does not allow you to register if you use a VPN, which means that anyone who tries to get compensation on this forum is guaranteed to have to reveal their real IP (moderators are asking you to send a screenshot of your IP address). I also do not consider your second Escrow reliable, since I do not see that multi-signature was used. In addition, the conditions specified for receiving compensation are also slippery (including a 14-day period ... which is extremely short). Not to mention the point about KYC.

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November 08, 2024, 06:13:47 PM
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But I would also like to see a response from an eXch rep or support.

Hi, we confirm that you can use coins from our BTC Aggregated pool on BingX.
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November 08, 2024, 07:46:21 PM
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Ask BingX exchange. If they believe Bitcoin isn't fungible, use a different exchange.
Did you ask this questions exchanges you are using yourself?  Wink
It's cool to ignore this exists, but most centralized exchanges have this ''bitcoin score'' for a while now.

You are right, but unfortunately we now have to live with this “taint” because we couldn't beat it.
There is always alternative way to cash out without kyc centralized exchanges, using PeachBitcoin, Bisq, Robosats, etc.

Meanwhile, we at eXch continue standing by open and neutral Internet and cryptocurrency, having honesty and transparency as our key principles.
Long live eXch.
We should have more bitcoin services following your good example.

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God Bless neutral cryptocurrency market. Don't let the evil indoctrinate you.


Excellent post and the best way to confront those with bad intentions (and there are obviously more and more of them). As long as you work the way you do, I don't think you need to worry too much about those little mice that occasionally pop out of all the holes, start nibbling a little and then run back inside.

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I confirm, the BingX exchange accepts bitcoins received from eXch. I made the exchange without any problems. Special thanks to the representatives of eXch. And congratulations to everyone on the new Bitcoin ATH.  Wink
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November 13, 2024, 12:38:17 PM
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I can't remember the last time there was such a small amount of other currencies in eXch reserves. Almost everything is in Bitcoin right now.
It seems that the sell of Bitcoin is much higher than the demand, a price drop is expected, I guess.


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It seems that the sell of Bitcoin is much higher than the demand, a price drop is expected, I guess.
Or: Bitcoin is outperforming all shitcoins, and people jump back into Bitcoin Wink No, wait, the opposite is happening.

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It seems that the sell of Bitcoin is much higher than the demand, a price drop is expected, I guess.
Or: Bitcoin is outperforming all shitcoins, and people jump back into Bitcoin Wink
This was expected as we all want "God bless Bitcoin"

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Or: Bitcoin is outperforming all shitcoins, and people jump back into Bitcoin Wink No, wait, the opposite is happening.
I was just about to write you a reply.  Wink
one thing happened, Bitcoin outperformed shitcoins.

This was expected as we all want "God bless Bitcoin"
I'm not sure what God has to do with Bitcoin and why it would matter to him if the value of Bitcoin goes up. I'm even somehow convinced that God doesn't have electricity and an application that monitors the crypto portfolio.

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I'm not sure what God has to do with Bitcoin and why it would matter to him if the value of Bitcoin goes up. I'm even somehow convinced that God doesn't have electricity and an application that monitors the crypto portfolio.

Our ancestors sees everything, but nature controls everything on earth.

Quick question to the admin -  I saw "Refund address" and "To address" while I was trying to swap some LTC to Bitcoin earlier today on the site, the setup looks complicated but the charge fee is better compared to other swap exchanges. What's "refund address" and "to address" ? Am I to provide two addresses?

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What's "refund address"
The address you want your deposit returned if something fails. This is not required.

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"to address" ?
The address you want your money to go to after exchanging.

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What's "refund address"
The address you want your deposit returned if something fails. This is not required.
It is also important to know that it is possible to add a refund address later. So, even in the event that the refund addy is forgotten and a problem arises, the user still has this option.

It is clearly emphasized on the exch site itself
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Refund address is optional to create an order and can be provided later when needed, [u]however it can't be changed later once provided[/u]

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This was expected as we all want "God bless Bitcoin"
I'm not sure what God has to do with Bitcoin and why it would matter to him if the value of Bitcoin goes up. I'm even somehow convinced that God doesn't have electricity and an application that monitors the crypto portfolio.

There are surely a lot of decent arguments to proclaim that bitcoin is way closer to god or god-like preferences than other kinds of currencies and/or assets in the sense that it is more of a neutral kind of an asset/currency.

Books and articles are written on the topic, so arguments are there to suggest the god-like characteristics of bitcoin (especially compared to manipulation and robbery that takes place through the issuance and seemingly purposeful debasement of fiat currencies) and they are not unreasonable arguments.

1) Self-Custody is a right.  Resist being labelled as: "non-custodial" or "un-hosted."  2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.  3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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What's "refund address"
The address you want your deposit returned if something fails. This is not required.
It is also important to know that it is possible to add a refund address later. So, even in the event that the refund addy is forgotten and a problem arises, the user still has this option.

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Refund address is optional to create an order and can be provided later when needed, [u]however it can't be changed later once provided[/u]

The site reserves on most of assets are currently empty or lower; ETH is zero as of now, and I attempted to conduct a swap to ETH, but the system continues to allow given the fact that the ETH balance is empty. How is this feasible if the site does not use a third-party liquidity provider? Is it necessary for me to wait X days till reserves are topped before receiving my coins?

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How is this feasible if the site does not use a third-party liquidity provider?
Every user who sells the coin you need is a liquidity provider Wink

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Is it necessary for me to wait X days till reserves are topped before receiving my coins?
Usually, the 24h volume is an indicator of what to expect: there's ETH in Reserves already.

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The site reserves on most of assets are currently empty or lower; ETH is zero as of now, and I attempted to conduct a swap to ETH, but the system continues to allow given the fact that the ETH balance is empty. How is this feasible if the site does not use a third-party liquidity provider? Is it necessary for me to wait X days till reserves are topped before receiving my coins?

Yes, the site allows you to create an order when reserves are empty. If you do it, this order would then be placed in a waiting queue until eXch has sufficient liquidity to process it. (a refund is always possible if it's too long)

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