[BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014

[oldcoinguru]

Make try vote on https://c-cex.com/?id=vote

c-cex is a waste of time.  They do not list cryptonote coins.

[1blockologist]

hitbtc's add coin button doesn't work for me

[Molenta]

hitbtc's add coin button doesn't work for me

But it did for me. I got an answer from stuff:

Dear Molenta,
Thank you for the inquiry.
As per our policy, listing negotiations can be only proceed if email is verified. Could you please reply to this message from @boolberry.com domain address?

Brgds,
Tim Novak
--------
New token:
Project website: http://boolberry.com/
Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.0
Reddit links: https://www.reddit.com/r/boolberry/

Some directions would help

[1blockologist]

hitbtc's add coin button doesn't work for me

But it did for me. I got an answer from stuff:

Dear Molenta,
Thank you for the inquiry.
As per our policy, listing negotiations can be only proceed if email is verified. Could you please reply to this message from @boolberry.com domain address?

Brgds,
Tim Novak
--------
New token:
Project website: http://boolberry.com/
Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.0
Reddit links: https://www.reddit.com/r/boolberry/

Some directions would help

Only Zoidberg can help for that, but if you submit with the site address as http://www.blockology.org/cryptonote/ I can reply with a @blockology.org email

YEAH, I KNOW

In any case I did write up a message about the various people working on boolberry, maybe I need an account there.

Send this on behalf of me:

Hello,

I am doing some outreach for the Boolberry community. Boolberry is one of the original cryptonote coin like Monero and XDN. There are several developers working on Boolberry, which may not be apparent. Cryptozoidberg, b4h4mu7 and clintar2 are working on it. I, 1blockologist, had previously done work on reviving the project a year ago. The reason Boolberry is hard to list (like other cryptonote coins, originally) is that the blockchain has to stay in RAM, and this is resource intensive for exchanges as you need an instance with at least 8gb RAM for a good runway. Current development is towards a stable normal blockchain database, and the market is waiting for that.

You guys already list XDN and hope you can get space for Boolberry. Both Poloniex and Bittrex enjoyed good consistent volume for Boolberry, averaging over $100k per day for sustained periods, but they cannot host it right now because of the RAM requirements.

This gives you an opportunity as all of the liquidity will be keen to move over here.

All the best,
Eric

site: www.blockology.org/cryptonote/
reddit: reddit.com/r/boolberry
email: eric@blockology.org

You can even request the ticker BBR again if you want

[Molenta]

hitbtc's add coin button doesn't work for me

But it did for me. I got an answer from stuff:

Dear Molenta,
Thank you for the inquiry.
As per our policy, listing negotiations can be only proceed if email is verified. Could you please reply to this message from @boolberry.com domain address?

Brgds,
Tim Novak
--------
New token:
Project website: http://boolberry.com/
Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.0
Reddit links: https://www.reddit.com/r/boolberry/

Some directions would help

Only Zoidberg can help for that, but if you submit with the site address as http://www.blockology.org/cryptonote/ I can reply with a @blockology.org email

YEAH, I KNOW

In any case I did write up a message about the various people working on boolberry, maybe I need an account there.

Send this on behalf of me:

Hello,

I am doing some outreach for the Boolberry community. Boolberry is one of the original cryptonote coin like Monero and XDN. There are several developers working on Boolberry, which may not be apparent. Cryptozoidberg, b4h4mu7 and clintar2 are working on it. I, 1blockologist, had previously done work on reviving the project a year ago. The reason Boolberry is hard to list (like other cryptonote coins, originally) is that the blockchain has to stay in RAM, and this is resource intensive for exchanges as you need an instance with at least 8gb RAM for a good runway. Current development is towards a stable normal blockchain database, and the market is waiting for that.

You guys already list XDN and hope you can get space for Boolberry. Both Poloniex and Bittrex enjoyed good consistent volume for Boolberry, averaging over $100k per day for sustained periods, but they cannot host it right now because of the RAM requirements.

This gives you an opportunity as all of the liquidity will be keen to move over here.

All the best,
Eric

site: www.blockology.org/cryptonote/
reddit: reddit.com/r/boolberry
email: eric@blockology.org

You can even request the ticker BBR again if you want

Will do that. The ticker and the rest will leave to you. Maybe better to stay XBB as Capital market and traders on Bittrex recognise it better.

** About the wallet i dont understand why 8 GB nor even 6 GB of RAM, i use BB wallet on 6y old laptop with 4GB ram, dualcore i5 on Win 10 and it works perfect. Will paste demonstration on youtube (+dont forget also a recording program takes some RAM, with no REC it works 2x faster, much better than some other coin wallets, like XMG, BURST or others, not to mention that BURST wallet was not working for a month with mayor blockchain issues and nobody mentioned delisting).

[1blockologist]

** About the wallet i dont understand why 8 GB nor even 6 GB of RAM, i use BB wallet on 6y old laptop with 4GB ram, dualcore i5 on Win 10 and it works perfect. Will paste demonstration on youtube (+dont forget also a recording program takes some RAM, with no REC it works 2x faster, much better than some other coin wallets, like XMG, BURST or others, not to mention that BURST wallet was not working for a month with mayor blockchain issues and nobody mentioned delisting).

Just need to manage expectations from anyone trying to list it. The blockchain will keep growing in size and it needs to be running on a machine that has flexibility with that growth over time, while clintar2 etc fix up the database

[clintar2]

** About the wallet i dont understand why 8 GB nor even 6 GB of RAM, i use BB wallet on 6y old laptop with 4GB ram, dualcore i5 on Win 10 and it works perfect. Will paste demonstration on youtube (+dont forget also a recording program takes some RAM, with no REC it works 2x faster, much better than some other coin wallets, like XMG, BURST or others, not to mention that BURST wallet was not working for a month with mayor blockchain issues and nobody mentioned delisting).

Just need to manage expectations from anyone trying to list it. The blockchain will keep growing in size and it needs to be running on a machine that has flexibility with that growth over time, while clintar2 etc fix up the database

Ok, put up my latest code.
https://github.com/clintar/boolberry/tree/lmdb_scratch

i'm to the point where the blockchain syncs (pretty quickly) but if there are alternative blocks, it falls down, which makes some coretests fail. and i can't get a testnet set up to start mining from zero, or maybe even mine a block against this code. Haven't had time since I got the latest committed. should be able to just do

Code:

make -j4 build-release 

or

Code:

make -j4 build-debug

or

Code:

make -j4 build-debug-testnet

to get the thing to compile now (assuming required dev packages are installed). Please if anyone can help look at it, it would help a ton!

passing

Code:

--seed-node 88.197.53.159:10101

should get it syncing

[Molenta]

Send this on behalf of me:

Mail to HitBtc sent.

[1blockologist]

Send this on behalf of me:

Mail to HitBtc sent.

Thank you

[forzendiablo]

bittrex is kicking this dead coin, ive sold all mine, surprised it was alive so long when devs left it in 2016

[Molenta]

bittrex is kicking this dead coin, ive sold all mine, surprised it was alive so long when devs left it in 2016

This is just ignorance and self perception over no clue for what financial currency means.
It should:  1. hold value, 2. be easyly devided, 3. easy stored, 4. transferable, 5. exchangable, 6. has limited supply

It is not about the dev all the time and pomp and press and news news coffee action.
Fiat money hasnt changed for +20 years and i personaly like it simple not changing all the time.
       

[ph4nt0m]

Kinda sad to see this coin biting the dust. Although it was expected. No active dev, no future.

[mmo_online_1981]

Dear all
I see on Bittrex:
  This market is being delisted on September 1st, 2017.
So i am very sad

[mirny]

Yeah, you all right, I'm so sad to see Boolberry is going to be delisted from bittrex as well.
So after 1. of September, you will not be able to exchange XBB anywhere.
Poloniex - gone,
Bter - gone,
Coinswap - dead.

And now Bittrex

[jann1980]

There is a coin, but it cannot be exchanged. It will either disappear or will enter the next exchange, or the developers will create their (new) exchange.

[oldcoinguru]

bittrex is kicking this dead coin, ive sold all mine, surprised it was alive so long when devs left it in 2016

This is just ignorance and self perception over no clue for what financial currency means.
It should:  1. hold value, 2. be easyly devided, 3. easy stored, 4. transferable, 5. exchangable, 6. has limited supply

It is not about the dev all the time and pomp and press and news news coffee action.
Fiat money hasnt changed for +20 years and i personaly like it simple not changing all the time.
       

You have just pointed out some significant problems with Boolberry.

1. Hold Value.  It has not held it's value.  It was worth significantly more after the initial launch.  It then flat lined until the pump that started around six months ago.  It is now on a downward trend and considering the fact that it will not have any exchange to be traded on after Bittrex delists it it will have no value.

4. Transferable  Boolberry is not easily transferable for many people.  It has a 4 gig .bin file that needs to load and uses over 6 gigs of ram when running.  On a typical desktop or laptop that brings the system to a crawl making it a hassle just to open the wallet.

5. Exchangeable    Once Boolberry is delisted from Bittrex it will only be exchangeable through p2p transfers that open up significant risks unless using a verified escrow which is a hassle.

I am disappointed to see where Boolberry has ended up and I'll likely setup a node to at least help keep the chain alive in the case that the lmdb implementation is eventually successful because that would definitely be a game changer.

I'll continue to hold the BBR I have and if in the end I end up with completely worthless coins then I'm willing to take that chance.   

[rbrunner7]

Ok, put up my latest code.
https://github.com/clintar/boolberry/tree/lmdb_scratch

i'm to the point where the blockchain syncs (pretty quickly) but if there are alternative blocks, it falls down, which makes some coretests fail. and i can't get a testnet set up to start mining from zero, or maybe even mine a block against this code. Haven't had time since I got the latest committed. should be able to just do

Code:

make -j4 build-release 

or

Code:

make -j4 build-debug

or

Code:

make -j4 build-debug-testnet

to get the thing to compile now (assuming required dev packages are installed). Please if anyone can help look at it, it would help a ton!

passing

Code:

--seed-node 88.197.53.159:10101

should get it syncing

I tried it. Worked like a charm for me, it downloaded the whole blockchain in around 90 minutes.

I did not let it run long enough to encounter a chain reorg, however.

Any tests that would be particularly valuable, beyond just running it and letting it download the blockchain?

[Molenta]

bittrex is kicking this dead coin, ive sold all mine, surprised it was alive so long when devs left it in 2016

This is just ignorance and self perception over no clue for what financial currency means.
It should:  1. hold value, 2. be easyly devided, 3. easy stored, 4. transferable, 5. exchangable, 6. has limited supply

It is not about the dev all the time and pomp and press and news news coffee action.
Fiat money hasnt changed for +20 years and i personaly like it simple not changing all the time.
       

You have just pointed out some significant problems with Boolberry.

1. Hold Value.  It has not held it's value.  It was worth significantly more after the initial launch.  It then flat lined until the pump that started around six months ago.  It is now on a downward trend and considering the fact that it will not have any exchange to be traded on after Bittrex delists it it will have no value.

Not true. The true value is not estimated in dollars but by people. Let me explain. The nature of fiat currency is all wrong (for ordinary people). It is held in privat companies and controled by "printing" in infinite values as long as you want to pay interests, for example BOA, where banks, goverment borrow money (no limits). So if you borrow all the money from where it is printed and has to be returned with interests and they "print-make" the money, do the math. For this, i can guarantee that if you put XBB long enough in exchange it will grow in value in dollars. As for holding value it can not be "printed" in infinite numbers.
It is known from the past (Poloniex exchange), when Boolberry coin gets some fresh air and starts going to the moon they delist the coin making panic on his value, the value of this coin is the same and it is severe undervalued. Therefore it is a consperacy against this coin as someone is affraid of his true annonimity exchange POWER And there are also another reasons.

4. Transferable  Boolberry is not easily transferable for many people.  It has a 4 gig .bin file that needs to load and uses over 6 gigs of ram when running.  On a typical desktop or laptop that brings the system to a crawl making it a hassle just to open the wallet.

Opening wallet in 6y old laptop, 4 GB RAM, WIN 10, and opened Edge + recording device, free was less than 3 GB RAM and internet is kinda slow WiFi, i can also paste how opening looks on a desktop 2017y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lORc1xatXig

5. Exchangeable    Once Boolberry is delisted from Bittrex it will only be exchangeable through p2p transfers that open up significant risks unless using a verified escrow which is a hassle.

Agree on that.

I am disappointed to see where Boolberry has ended up and I'll likely setup a node to at least help keep the chain alive in the case that the lmdb implementation is eventually successful because that would definitely be a game changer.

Great to hear that, will try to do the same after i learn some basics in programming, so i can contribute in any way that matters.

I'll continue to hold BBR I have and if in the end I end up with completely worthless coins then I'm willing to take that chance.   

Coins will stay with me till the end, will hodl forever

Sorry for picking every word written. Just trying to stay positive.

[b4h4mu7]

Like most of you, I’m apart of this community and an investor in the project. I noticed a lack of development in the project and decided to take proactive steps to restart it.

I reached out to Bittrex support (support@bittrex.com) on July 31st to inform them of our intentions to renew the project. I provided a link to the new block explorer that I paid Clintar to make for the community since the others have been offline for a considerable amount of time. Despite the "recommended outreach" listed on their delist guidelines, I didn’t receive any follow-up response from them. Furthermore, I joined their IRC asking for Bittrex staff with no response there either. As far as I can tell they never made any attempts to reach out to this community to voice concerns about issues they were having with the project. If they thought there was a lack of development interest they could of scrolled back a few pages where I announced my intentions and put up a bounty for a new block explorer.

Here is an excerpt from the July 31st e-mail:

I want to inform you that we have a new explorer up for the Boolberry project. The chainradar and miner's gate explorers have been offline and they don't have a support address. If you have any future questions regarding the project please direct them here. We are working hard on a new update and will keep you informed of any developments that would require hardfork.

After seeing the delisting notice Tuesday night I joined their Slack channel with the intentions of reaching out to Bittrex-Julian and Bittrex-Bill to see if they would reverse their decision, but they ignored my responses. Instead of responding to me, they created a sock puppet account “zombezi” and posted their delist guidelines on this Bitcointalk thread. I’m not 100% sure it was them but the timing was about 30 minutes after I messaged them. Bittrex-Richie then proceeded to kick me out of the support channel around the same time as the sock puppet posted on this thread. This is how they treat their customers who have been using and promoting their platform for years.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg21121918#msg21121918

In the past, other projects like Stealthcoin were given a delisting notice and somehow they were able to get it reversed. Maybe they paid for reversal, maybe they didn’t, we’ll never know.

What I can say is that this was completely unwarranted on their part. There are numerous coins listed on Bittrex with much less active development and some even trading with zero volume; however they are not up for delisting. Moreover, Boolberry was trading at all time high values ($.90) with considerable volume but they still decided to delist it. This is no different than Poloniex delisting Boolberry when it was approaching all time highs in both market cap and volume. There is a disturbing recurring pattern which makes me wonder if there really is some conspiracy at work here to keep Boolberry down. I can't think of any reason why a business would delist a product or service that is making them money since Boolberry has sustained consistent volume.

Based on their response and actions towards my inquiry it looks like their decision is final. We are actively looking towards other pairing options but nothing is concrete. Businesses who treat their customers like trash dont tend to last long. I surely won't be using their platform ever again after being ignored and treated like a beggar in the streets.

[1blockologist]

There is a disturbing recurring pattern which makes me wonder if there really is some conspiracy at work here to keep Boolberry down.

There's always been some strange stuff on the boolberry network and around its infrastructure.

The main thing for us is the database thing though, it is really a prerequisite honestly, and can kick start the discussions. We've been at this for over a year and fortunately since crypto changes at a breakneck speed, there are more exchanges now. Monero integration is happening on more exchanges, which means basic cryptonote integration.

These guys just can't have 1 blockchain taking so much RAM. They are running most of these things on 256mb docker containers, and boolberry needs a 6 gb bare metal server.