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March 22, 2015, 06:41:27 AM
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So what ever happened to cryptocoins-dice.com   Did they just steal all the funds and skip town?
Yes

As if you really had to guess.  They totally pulled a Friedcat.

Everyone got BFLPaycoinGoxBS&TAetheroFriedcatDRKDASHed

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March 22, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
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So what ever happened to cryptocoins-dice.com   Did they just steal all the funds and skip town?
Yes

As if you really had to guess.  They totally pulled a Friedcat.

Everyone got BFLPaycoinGoxBS&TAetheroFriedcatDRKDASHed

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March 22, 2015, 07:51:26 AM
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You guys should talk about it amongst yourselves and see what sort of commitment you can come up with for what price. I know we talked about this before and you weren't willing to commit to delivering any particular product, but maybe you could commit to full time development for a given period of time. I think that would satisfy people. If you can come up with something that we could crowd fund than im sure we could find some way of accommodating that.

We can give some tokens like Limited Edition, Flagbearer type Physical Monero to people donating a said amount to the crowdfund. We can source these coins from iourzzz. It will be good.
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March 22, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
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https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-196-distortions-towards-privacy-or-many-hands-makes-light-work

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March 22, 2015, 10:24:36 AM
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Any plans to give an interview on the Let's Talk Bitcoin network (alt channel so to speak). I just listened to an interview with the creator of DRK/dash and it was interesting to say the least. I would have liked a Monero guy on there to give an opposing/alternaive viewpoint. I think a little debate will help the stronger coin out. I'm in XMR's corner of course, but not reading much these days on its main competitor makes me feel a bit out of touch.

Related, can we ever have a wallet app on e.g. Android, for XMR as opposed to a web wallet- is there anything creative we can do?

IAS

Porting LightWallet to Android seems possible given reasonable inputs of time/effort/skill and/or funding/bounties.

XMR competes with BTC; Darshcoin competes with CLOAK and other shitcoins.

XMR has no serious competition in the 'legitimately trustless privacy-enabling digicash' sector.  Bitcoin, with its high-volume array of 3rd party tumblers/mixers, comes the closest.

Darsh enjoys 1st mover status in the 'scamcoin marketed as privacy-enabling digicash' field.  But its technology is unproven, and outside of the cult (who stand to profit from their Ponzi nodes) not many will trust it for security-sensitive applications.

10000 this, you'll rarely or almost never see any Bitcoin stuff making the slighest hint about Monero, unless the person really likes/understands it, after the scamcoin "bought"(subverted) dashcoin I have enough evidence to support my paranoia that Bitcoins already started to rolling behind the scenes to stop or slow down XMR acceptation. At minimum there is a silent conspiracy to ignore Monero/cryptonote.

They will catch on eventually.  Its unique codebase makes it a good hedge should flaws be found in the Bitcoin codebase.  Should this scenario manifest itself all Bitcoin based coins (DRK/ASH) would be rendered useless as well.

Does anyone know how many fairly unique code bases exist in this crazy altcoin ecosystem?

bitcoin
nxt
monero
ripple (though im not sure its really a crypto currency, you have to decide yourself)
bitshares

These are the only ones i know, can anyone add to this list
The Mini-Blockchain based Cryptonite (XCN).
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March 22, 2015, 10:27:23 AM
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Any plans to give an interview on the Let's Talk Bitcoin network (alt channel so to speak). I just listened to an interview with the creator of DRK/dash and it was interesting to say the least. I would have liked a Monero guy on there to give an opposing/alternaive viewpoint. I think a little debate will help the stronger coin out. I'm in XMR's corner of course, but not reading much these days on its main competitor makes me feel a bit out of touch.

Related, can we ever have a wallet app on e.g. Android, for XMR as opposed to a web wallet- is there anything creative we can do?

IAS

Porting LightWallet to Android seems possible given reasonable inputs of time/effort/skill and/or funding/bounties.

XMR competes with BTC; Darshcoin competes with CLOAK and other shitcoins.

XMR has no serious competition in the 'legitimately trustless privacy-enabling digicash' sector.  Bitcoin, with its high-volume array of 3rd party tumblers/mixers, comes the closest.

Darsh enjoys 1st mover status in the 'scamcoin marketed as privacy-enabling digicash' field.  But its technology is unproven, and outside of the cult (who stand to profit from their Ponzi nodes) not many will trust it for security-sensitive applications.

10000 this, you'll rarely or almost never see any Bitcoin stuff making the slighest hint about Monero, unless the person really likes/understands it, after the scamcoin "bought"(subverted) dashcoin I have enough evidence to support my paranoia that Bitcoins already started to rolling behind the scenes to stop or slow down XMR acceptation. At minimum there is a silent conspiracy to ignore Monero/cryptonote.

They will catch on eventually.  Its unique codebase makes it a good hedge should flaws be found in the Bitcoin codebase.  Should this scenario manifest itself all Bitcoin based coins (DRK/ASH) would be rendered useless as well.

Does anyone know how many fairly unique code bases exist in this crazy altcoin ecosystem?

bitcoin
nxt
monero
ripple (though im not sure its really a crypto currency, you have to decide yourself)
bitshares

These are the only ones i know, can anyone add to this list
The Mini-Blockchain based Cryptonite (XCN).

That is based on the bitcoin codebase, but heavily modified. Quite possibly the most heavily modified bitcoin fork.
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March 22, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
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Oops posted the wrong link

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zufu1/a_great_podcast_by_lets_talk_bitcoin_discussing
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March 22, 2015, 10:40:55 AM
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Should be reported as off topic imo.

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March 22, 2015, 10:51:58 AM
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What if monero was funded through fundraising website/programs? I know those websites usually dont allow you to give something in return to those who donate, but they could be directed to a monero exchange where they could buy some if theyd like.

Well, I got excited about checking out kickstarter, but they don't allow projects for "cash equivalent" things... they used some other word than things. I forget.



There is one that allows Cryptos. https://www.startjoin.com/ Also you could put up a crowdfunding on the Burstcoin Blockchain and get paid in burst and convert it to XMR or BTC.

EDIT: I do believe that Max Keiser is involved in startjoin.

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March 22, 2015, 10:56:55 AM
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Shield console coming with new cheap power. Its a set top type box for tv and gaming.

If this type of device explodes maybe there could be implications for mining.

Its sitting idle when you are not there using it. Perfect for the network.




 
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March 22, 2015, 11:08:12 AM
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Shield console coming with new cheap power. Its a set top type box for tv and gaming.

If this type of device explodes maybe there could be implications for mining.

Its sitting idle when you are not there using it. Perfect for the network.



Right, thats the idea.

Which is why the database build is important - will allow monero to run on tiny devices with little memory (raspberry pie). Next up is the smartminer to run the miner when the device (such as the Shield) is idle. Unfortunately looks like the Shield couldn't hold a full node (damn you blockchain!). But, if you own one, you could just have it mine (though you'd need to have it running a solominer pointed at a pool)

BUT the shield is built on the NVIDIA Maxwell architecture. 256 cores, which is about 1/3rd a 750 ti... so about 112 h/s if things scale by core #.

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March 22, 2015, 11:18:43 AM
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Any plans to give an interview on the Let's Talk Bitcoin network (alt channel so to speak). I just listened to an interview with the creator of DRK/dash and it was interesting to say the least. I would have liked a Monero guy on there to give an opposing/alternaive viewpoint. I think a little debate will help the stronger coin out. I'm in XMR's corner of course, but not reading much these days on its main competitor makes me feel a bit out of touch.

Related, can we ever have a wallet app on e.g. Android, for XMR as opposed to a web wallet- is there anything creative we can do?

IAS

Porting LightWallet to Android seems possible given reasonable inputs of time/effort/skill and/or funding/bounties.

XMR competes with BTC; Darshcoin competes with CLOAK and other shitcoins.

XMR has no serious competition in the 'legitimately trustless privacy-enabling digicash' sector.  Bitcoin, with its high-volume array of 3rd party tumblers/mixers, comes the closest.

Darsh enjoys 1st mover status in the 'scamcoin marketed as privacy-enabling digicash' field.  But its technology is unproven, and outside of the cult (who stand to profit from their Ponzi nodes) not many will trust it for security-sensitive applications.

10000 this, you'll rarely or almost never see any Bitcoin stuff making the slighest hint about Monero, unless the person really likes/understands it, after the scamcoin "bought"(subverted) dashcoin I have enough evidence to support my paranoia that Bitcoins already started to rolling behind the scenes to stop or slow down XMR acceptation. At minimum there is a silent conspiracy to ignore Monero/cryptonote.

They will catch on eventually.  Its unique codebase makes it a good hedge should flaws be found in the Bitcoin codebase.  Should this scenario manifest itself all Bitcoin based coins (DRK/ASH) would be rendered useless as well.

Does anyone know how many fairly unique code bases exist in this crazy altcoin ecosystem?

bitcoin
nxt
monero
ripple (though im not sure its really a crypto currency, you have to decide yourself)
bitshares

These are the only ones i know, can anyone add to this list
The Mini-Blockchain based Cryptonite (XCN).

That is based on the bitcoin codebase, but heavily modified. Quite possibly the most heavily modified bitcoin fork.

LOL to your interpretation!
It uses a finite length blockchain model (the last N blocks), consisting of tx blocks, headers, account tree.. Also 7 different hashing algorithms.
Unless you recall any POW a bitcoin fork, your interpretation is quite unfair.
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March 22, 2015, 11:42:04 AM
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Any plans to give an interview on the Let's Talk Bitcoin network (alt channel so to speak). I just listened to an interview with the creator of DRK/dash and it was interesting to say the least. I would have liked a Monero guy on there to give an opposing/alternaive viewpoint. I think a little debate will help the stronger coin out. I'm in XMR's corner of course, but not reading much these days on its main competitor makes me feel a bit out of touch.

Related, can we ever have a wallet app on e.g. Android, for XMR as opposed to a web wallet- is there anything creative we can do?

IAS

Porting LightWallet to Android seems possible given reasonable inputs of time/effort/skill and/or funding/bounties.

XMR competes with BTC; Darshcoin competes with CLOAK and other shitcoins.

XMR has no serious competition in the 'legitimately trustless privacy-enabling digicash' sector.  Bitcoin, with its high-volume array of 3rd party tumblers/mixers, comes the closest.

Darsh enjoys 1st mover status in the 'scamcoin marketed as privacy-enabling digicash' field.  But its technology is unproven, and outside of the cult (who stand to profit from their Ponzi nodes) not many will trust it for security-sensitive applications.

10000 this, you'll rarely or almost never see any Bitcoin stuff making the slighest hint about Monero, unless the person really likes/understands it, after the scamcoin "bought"(subverted) dashcoin I have enough evidence to support my paranoia that Bitcoins already started to rolling behind the scenes to stop or slow down XMR acceptation. At minimum there is a silent conspiracy to ignore Monero/cryptonote.

They will catch on eventually.  Its unique codebase makes it a good hedge should flaws be found in the Bitcoin codebase.  Should this scenario manifest itself all Bitcoin based coins (DRK/ASH) would be rendered useless as well.

Does anyone know how many fairly unique code bases exist in this crazy altcoin ecosystem?

bitcoin
nxt
monero
ripple (though im not sure its really a crypto currency, you have to decide yourself)
bitshares

These are the only ones i know, can anyone add to this list
The Mini-Blockchain based Cryptonite (XCN).

That is based on the bitcoin codebase, but heavily modified. Quite possibly the most heavily modified bitcoin fork.

LOL to your interpretation!
It uses a finite length blockchain model (the last N blocks), consisting of tx blocks, headers, account tree.. Also 7 different hashing algorithms.
Unless you recall any POW a bitcoin fork, your interpretation is quite unfair.

It's not an interpretation.
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March 22, 2015, 11:46:11 AM
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Any plans to give an interview on the Let's Talk Bitcoin network (alt channel so to speak). I just listened to an interview with the creator of DRK/dash and it was interesting to say the least. I would have liked a Monero guy on there to give an opposing/alternaive viewpoint. I think a little debate will help the stronger coin out. I'm in XMR's corner of course, but not reading much these days on its main competitor makes me feel a bit out of touch.

Related, can we ever have a wallet app on e.g. Android, for XMR as opposed to a web wallet- is there anything creative we can do?

IAS

Porting LightWallet to Android seems possible given reasonable inputs of time/effort/skill and/or funding/bounties.

XMR competes with BTC; Darshcoin competes with CLOAK and other shitcoins.

XMR has no serious competition in the 'legitimately trustless privacy-enabling digicash' sector.  Bitcoin, with its high-volume array of 3rd party tumblers/mixers, comes the closest.

Darsh enjoys 1st mover status in the 'scamcoin marketed as privacy-enabling digicash' field.  But its technology is unproven, and outside of the cult (who stand to profit from their Ponzi nodes) not many will trust it for security-sensitive applications.

10000 this, you'll rarely or almost never see any Bitcoin stuff making the slighest hint about Monero, unless the person really likes/understands it, after the scamcoin "bought"(subverted) dashcoin I have enough evidence to support my paranoia that Bitcoins already started to rolling behind the scenes to stop or slow down XMR acceptation. At minimum there is a silent conspiracy to ignore Monero/cryptonote.

They will catch on eventually.  Its unique codebase makes it a good hedge should flaws be found in the Bitcoin codebase.  Should this scenario manifest itself all Bitcoin based coins (DRK/ASH) would be rendered useless as well.

Does anyone know how many fairly unique code bases exist in this crazy altcoin ecosystem?

bitcoin
nxt
monero
ripple (though im not sure its really a crypto currency, you have to decide yourself)
bitshares

These are the only ones i know, can anyone add to this list
The Mini-Blockchain based Cryptonite (XCN).

That is based on the bitcoin codebase, but heavily modified. Quite possibly the most heavily modified bitcoin fork.

LOL to your interpretation!
It uses a finite length blockchain model (the last N blocks), consisting of tx blocks, headers, account tree.. Also 7 different hashing algorithms.
Unless you recall any POW a bitcoin fork, your interpretation is quite unfair.

It's not an interpretation.
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March 22, 2015, 11:59:28 AM
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Any plans to give an interview on the Let's Talk Bitcoin network (alt channel so to speak). I just listened to an interview with the creator of DRK/dash and it was interesting to say the least. I would have liked a Monero guy on there to give an opposing/alternaive viewpoint. I think a little debate will help the stronger coin out. I'm in XMR's corner of course, but not reading much these days on its main competitor makes me feel a bit out of touch.

Related, can we ever have a wallet app on e.g. Android, for XMR as opposed to a web wallet- is there anything creative we can do?

IAS

Porting LightWallet to Android seems possible given reasonable inputs of time/effort/skill and/or funding/bounties.

XMR competes with BTC; Darshcoin competes with CLOAK and other shitcoins.

XMR has no serious competition in the 'legitimately trustless privacy-enabling digicash' sector.  Bitcoin, with its high-volume array of 3rd party tumblers/mixers, comes the closest.

Darsh enjoys 1st mover status in the 'scamcoin marketed as privacy-enabling digicash' field.  But its technology is unproven, and outside of the cult (who stand to profit from their Ponzi nodes) not many will trust it for security-sensitive applications.

10000 this, you'll rarely or almost never see any Bitcoin stuff making the slighest hint about Monero, unless the person really likes/understands it, after the scamcoin "bought"(subverted) dashcoin I have enough evidence to support my paranoia that Bitcoins already started to rolling behind the scenes to stop or slow down XMR acceptation. At minimum there is a silent conspiracy to ignore Monero/cryptonote.

They will catch on eventually.  Its unique codebase makes it a good hedge should flaws be found in the Bitcoin codebase.  Should this scenario manifest itself all Bitcoin based coins (DRK/ASH) would be rendered useless as well.

Does anyone know how many fairly unique code bases exist in this crazy altcoin ecosystem?

bitcoin
nxt
monero
ripple (though im not sure its really a crypto currency, you have to decide yourself)
bitshares

These are the only ones i know, can anyone add to this list
The Mini-Blockchain based Cryptonite (XCN).

That is based on the bitcoin codebase, but heavily modified. Quite possibly the most heavily modified bitcoin fork.

LOL to your interpretation!
It uses a finite length blockchain model (the last N blocks), consisting of tx blocks, headers, account tree.. Also 7 different hashing algorithms.
Unless you recall any POW a bitcoin fork, your interpretation is quite unfair.

What do you suppose the first and second copyright notices indicate?


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^^^ SLAM  Shocked

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March 22, 2015, 12:12:11 PM
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Any plans to give an interview on the Let's Talk Bitcoin network (alt channel so to speak). I just listened to an interview with the creator of DRK/dash and it was interesting to say the least. I would have liked a Monero guy on there to give an opposing/alternaive viewpoint. I think a little debate will help the stronger coin out. I'm in XMR's corner of course, but not reading much these days on its main competitor makes me feel a bit out of touch.

Related, can we ever have a wallet app on e.g. Android, for XMR as opposed to a web wallet- is there anything creative we can do?

IAS

Porting LightWallet to Android seems possible given reasonable inputs of time/effort/skill and/or funding/bounties.

XMR competes with BTC; Darshcoin competes with CLOAK and other shitcoins.

XMR has no serious competition in the 'legitimately trustless privacy-enabling digicash' sector.  Bitcoin, with its high-volume array of 3rd party tumblers/mixers, comes the closest.

Darsh enjoys 1st mover status in the 'scamcoin marketed as privacy-enabling digicash' field.  But its technology is unproven, and outside of the cult (who stand to profit from their Ponzi nodes) not many will trust it for security-sensitive applications.

10000 this, you'll rarely or almost never see any Bitcoin stuff making the slighest hint about Monero, unless the person really likes/understands it, after the scamcoin "bought"(subverted) dashcoin I have enough evidence to support my paranoia that Bitcoins already started to rolling behind the scenes to stop or slow down XMR acceptation. At minimum there is a silent conspiracy to ignore Monero/cryptonote.

They will catch on eventually.  Its unique codebase makes it a good hedge should flaws be found in the Bitcoin codebase.  Should this scenario manifest itself all Bitcoin based coins (DRK/ASH) would be rendered useless as well.

Does anyone know how many fairly unique code bases exist in this crazy altcoin ecosystem?

bitcoin
nxt
monero
ripple (though im not sure its really a crypto currency, you have to decide yourself)
bitshares

These are the only ones i know, can anyone add to this list
The Mini-Blockchain based Cryptonite (XCN).

That is based on the bitcoin codebase, but heavily modified. Quite possibly the most heavily modified bitcoin fork.

LOL to your interpretation!
It uses a finite length blockchain model (the last N blocks), consisting of tx blocks, headers, account tree.. Also 7 different hashing algorithms.
Unless you recall any POW a bitcoin fork, your interpretation is quite unfair.

What do you suppose the first and second copyright notices indicate?



You can use some part of bitcoin code and still create a new thing, not a fork.
By your way, monero is a fork of bytecoin. Isn't it?
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March 22, 2015, 12:17:58 PM
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You can use some part of bitcoin code and still create a new thing, not a fork.

In software engineering, a project fork happens when developers take a copy of source code from one software package and start independent development on it, creating a distinct and separate piece of software.

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Correct. Originally more of a clone with a fair relaunch and some parameter tweaks, but quite diverged by now.
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March 22, 2015, 01:14:31 PM
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When the internet of things replaces current models,

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xOK2aJ-0Js (a very quick 10 minutes),

it will need to be private based on the need for DAC's to fulfill orders instantly without a third party being able to intercept drones by way of blockchain analysis. The counter argument would be that security drones would do the dirty work of protecting these drones or drones would use surreptitious routes to avoid being intercepted, but this is terribly inefficient when compared to just having the orders take place on a private blockchain, or misses that the more important the order, the more likely all three methods would be used for security.


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