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March 10, 2015, 04:34:38 PM
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Monero is being pumped at the moment, trade carefully

The 'pump' started when Evan decided to rename DRK to Dash IMHO.

Well, only 40 BTC vol with DRK on Poloniex.
But 35k dumped yesterday on Cryptsy.

So, is this a pump or just plain movement? What other anonymous coin has this kind of volume?
Looks like money moving.

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March 10, 2015, 04:58:08 PM
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Didn't rpietila say he was gonna buy 100k worth of XMR?
Maybe that's why the price has been going up.

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The DarkCoin rebranding will be great for us in so many ways.
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The DarkCoin rebranding will be great for us in so many ways.

Please elucidate.  Huh
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March 10, 2015, 05:13:04 PM
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The DarkCoin rebranding will be great for us in so many ways.

Please elucidate.  Huh

They fuck up.
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March 10, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
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Didn't rpietila say he was gonna buy 100k worth of XMR?
Maybe that's why the price has been going up.

So, let this be the official announcement that the price of monero will now start rising.

We would hope the rise to be gradual, but it is very difficult to cap once it starts. Not many want to sell their precious stashes below cost. In fiat, we are still at 10-15% the cost of most holders.

Everyone who reads this is asked to keep calm and buy at most a very small amount per day, but instead be very vigilant in selling at the best opportunity. Large holders are entering in, we need them, and they need the coins! Smiley 

Trolls want to know what I think exactly concerning the timing of the rise. That is however reserved for IRC only.
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hi dev

If I only have 0.8.8.1  .keys file ,

how can I upgrade to v 0.8.8.6 ?

its said:

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You had been using a deprecated version of the wallet. Your wallet file format
is being upgraded now.

Error: failed to load wallet: file not found "mro"

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or

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C:\monero.win.x64.v0-8-8-6>simplewallet --electrum-seed mro
bitmonero wallet v0.8.8.6-release
Specify wallet file name (e.g., wallet.bin). If the wallet doesn't exist, it wil
l be created.
Wallet file name: mro
password: *****
Error: failed to load wallet: failed to read file "mro"



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did you try mro.bin ?



no, look at his command line - he's passing --electrum-seed mro instead of --wallet-file.

coomme: just run simplewallet and follow the prompts, don't pass any command-line arguments unless you have a specific reason to do so.

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hi dev

If I only have 0.8.8.1  .keys file ,

how can I upgrade to v 0.8.8.6 ?

its said:

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You had been using a deprecated version of the wallet. Your wallet file format
is being upgraded now.

Error: failed to load wallet: file not found "mro"

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or

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C:\monero.win.x64.v0-8-8-6>simplewallet --electrum-seed mro
bitmonero wallet v0.8.8.6-release
Specify wallet file name (e.g., wallet.bin). If the wallet doesn't exist, it wil
l be created.
Wallet file name: mro
password: *****
Error: failed to load wallet: failed to read file "mro"



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did you try mro.bin ?



no, look at his command line - he's passing --electrum-seed mro instead of --wallet-file.

coomme: just run simplewallet and follow the prompts, don't pass any command-line arguments unless you have a specific reason to do so.

durrrr. I can read. Good thing I only edit podcats, eh? Smiley

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durrrr. I can read. Good thing I only edit podcats, eh? Smiley

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durrrr. I can read. Good thing I only edit podcats, eh? Smiley

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u know it! I rock da house.

now if only i could work in some doof doof.

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Please elucidate.  Huh
I won't. Because a) so they won't change the decision and b) naming everything public would just encourage XMR/DRK quarreling nobody wants to read.
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The DarkCoin rebranding will be great for us in so many ways.
Please elucidate.  Huh
They fuck up.
Indeed, but fuck-ups don't add up. The misery of the one does not necessarily make a fortune for the other.

Keeping steady on one's pathway ... steady ... steady ... btw where is the current Monero development heading to? Any news regarding next release number?

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March 10, 2015, 06:58:45 PM
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I think this is a big misunderstanding. Since it is an official GUI, the devs just don't want to release some half-baked thing with a lot of bugs. On top of that, the official GUI wallet will not be some simplistic thing which can only send and receive, but more like an account that has a wide variety of other options as well.
Good summary. For more information, Editorial: why is the official GUI wallet not released yet


I am planning to make presentations on XMR to various alternative investment conferences over the course of the coming months.  I have seen quite a few helpful infographics, suitable for expository presentation to such audiences, but they have been scattered re-postings of material sourced elsewhere, for the most part.  Has anyone collected media assets for investor education?  If you think it is a suitable time for the investor pool to expand, it may behoove you to send me your best stuff.

this is david L's / fluffypony's coinfest estonia presentation.

https://forum.getmonero.org/14/events/188/coinfest-estonia-2015
I would also add this (requires more illustrations)

Editorial: what's so special about Monero

It is not like Privacy is a BTC killer, it will just take a portion of the market.
And remember that privacy is not mandatory with Monero. It is optional. So the argument "Bitcoin for mainsteam, Monero for the rest" doesn't hold anymore. See slide 9 on regulatory compliance of the aforementionned presentation, that I also just now exported as PNG:

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The other camp is flaunting this:

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The other camp is flaunting this:

( snarp )


yeah I get to the second / third line and go "oh yeah thats why I don't care"  POS

< Track your bitcoins! > < Track them again! > <<< [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qomqt/what_a_landmark_legal_case_from_mid1700s_scotland/] What is fungibility? >>> 46P88uZ4edEgsk7iKQUGu2FUDYcdHm2HtLFiGLp1inG4e4f9PTb4mbHWYWFZGYUeQidJ8hFym2WUmWc p34X8HHmFS2LXJkf <<< Free subdomains at moneroworld.com!! >>> <<< If you don't want to run your own node, point your wallet to node.moneroworld.com, and get connected to a random node! @@@@ FUCK ALL THE PROFITEERS! PROOF OF WORK OR ITS A SCAM !!! @@@@
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The other camp is flaunting this:


"smooth launch" - wut?

"html wallet" - what do they think MyMonero.com is?

"lite wallet" - what do they think MyMonero.com is?

"mobile wallet" - what do they think MyMonero.com is?

Also "anon (mixing)" is subjective, Monero inputs mix your output with other outputs, which is (by definition) mixing.

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Please elucidate.  Huh
I won't. Because a) so they won't change the decision and b) naming everything public would just encourage XMR/DRK quarreling nobody wants to read.

Hah! that ship already sailed! Hmm where did I put my Titanic jpg? Cheesy


The other camp is flaunting this:

{Dumb ass chart snipped}

LOL, Ignore it they are just trying to pump themselves. It's not even worth a response.

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TED talk that has connected with me.

Also, for me, connects with Monero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0HIF3SfI4#t=14

(18 minutes)

I finally watched this. Thank you, Ginger, for the link. It has also connected with me and both Sinek's "Golden Circle" as well as the "Law of Diffusion of Innovation" are very pertinent to Monero.

I would highly recommend that the Devs and all Monero Early Adopters watch the video.
I believe that the Devs are doing their thing the right way, according to the premise that people will get onboard with Monero not because it is secure, private, and untraceable; but because they believe in the tenets of security, privacy, and personal liberty.
After watching the video (and another one, "how great leaders inpire action", from the same orator) I agree. And would say (call me arrogant) that people follow the team also because "we do give a shit".

Security, privacy, personal liberty can be achieved in unethical way, with distant and haughty dev who know better than caring for the community. After all, Cryptonote is just that: we coded a great with security, privacy and personal liberty, but we disdain you that much we will fuck you with no real communication and with a huge scam (granted, as fluffy told me this morning, with 80% premine, you can't really trust ring sig, but that still leave the fucktard attitude and Bitmonero was like that).

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TED talk that has connected with me.

Also, for me, connects with Monero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0HIF3SfI4#t=14

(18 minutes)

I finally watched this. Thank you, Ginger, for the link. It has also connected with me and both Sinek's "Golden Circle" as well as the "Law of Diffusion of Innovation" are very pertinent to Monero.

I would highly recommend that the Devs and all Monero Early Adopters watch the video.
I believe that the Devs are doing their thing the right way, according to the premise that people will get onboard with Monero not because it is secure, private, and untraceable; but because they believe in the tenets of security, privacy, and personal liberty.
After watching the video (and another one, "how great leaders inpire action", from the same orator) I agree. And would say (call me arrogant) that people follow the team also because "we do give a shit".

Security, privacy, personal liberty can be achieved in unethical way, with distant and haughty dev who know better than caring for the community. After all, Cryptonote is just that: we coded a great with security, privacy and personal liberty, but we disdain you that much we will fuck you with no real communication and with a huge scam (granted, as fluffy told me this morning, with 80% premine, you can't really trust ring sig, but that still leave the fucktard attitude and Bitmonero was like that).

Regarding the above, I think we need to put together a nice document regarding the history of monero. There's the one scathing summary out there, but its full of very colorful (but hilarious) language. I think newcomers to monero would appreciate knowing the full story, in case they come across trolls barking over "de-optimized miner" this or "community takeover" that. I mean, I think someone new to cryptoworld wouldn't fully understand community takeover without first comprehending how github and forking works. Hell, come to think of it, how did the fork occur? The year in review document (i think) touches on some of this... sorry i can't do more digging (at work).

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