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March 09, 2015, 08:41:38 AM
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We need to really chalk out a funding plan. Donations are not going to keep the ship sailing

define: "funding" . Funds are usually used to pay people to do things. Why does monero need to pay people to do things? Because there is a lot to do? And paying people to do things get them to focus? IMO, monero is more organic than that, but thats a different topic.

But what is there to do?

All outlined here: https://getmonero.org/design-goals/

Now, can you do any of these things? If the answer is yes, then great - you probably already know how to use github and you can go code stuff.

If the answer is no, then one could immediately jump to the conclusion that you must increase funding in order to create incentive for those that can code to go make awesome happen in github.

However, if you believe that time=money and money=time, then you can conclude that "funding" can also occur in the form of "time".

Thus, if you are not a programmer and can't contribute to core development, then one can "fund" monero by doing stuff for core devs that they would have to do if no one else does it, thus taking time away from core development.

Case in point:

https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/user-guides/

currently blank. How does one fill it?

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/tree/master/knowledge-base/user-guides

thats the github site for the getmonero.org website, so you can directly make stuff to fill the blank pages.

Also, case in point, we still have yet to find a way to transcribe the monero missives in a timely manner. Because no one stepped up to do it, some of the core-dev team used their time to start transcribing the one last week. This is time that could have spent staring at the crazy cryptonote codebase with pals json and rpi and ipc and whatever.

So literally, you could "fund" monero simply by listening to the podcasts and writing down what you hear.

I started a github for that here:

https://github.com/Gingeropolous/MoneroMissiveTranscribe

So yes - one route to increase the amount of resources available for core development is to increase funding. But in the absence of the capital to do so, another route is to increase the amount of time available for core development by offloading non-core activities.



+100, well said Ginger!

Something along these lines would make a great addition to getmonero.org as well, maybe add a page "How can I contribute to Monero" and outline the different possibilities.

So far I was only able to do lowly footsoldier stuff like creating seed lists in different languages but I am working on acquiring the necessary skills to do more.
My motivation is obviously fueled by my desire to see Monero succeed but it also is an incentive to learn something new.

So don't go and say "this is too hard for me"...dive into it headlong and emerge with new skills!

Smiley

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March 09, 2015, 10:18:44 AM
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XMR should be at LiteBit.eu (https://www.litebit.eu/), they sell altcoins for FIAT currency (USD, Euro, Pounds).
It's a legal and registered company in the Netherlands.

Two or three people should contact them today (contact field & email) ask friendly. And then we see what they respond and how we can work on this.
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March 09, 2015, 10:45:37 AM
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XMR should be at LiteBit.eu (https://www.litebit.eu/), they sell altcoins for FIAT currency (USD, Euro, Pounds).
It's a legal and registered company in the Netherlands.

Two or three people should contact them today (contact field & email) ask friendly. And then we see what they respond and how we can work on this.


I wrote them a little piece, thanks for the information.

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March 09, 2015, 11:04:38 AM
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Can/should "threshold" signatures be implemented in Monero? (See http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ycfh4/threshold_signatures_for_bitcoin_wallets_are/)
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March 09, 2015, 11:08:38 AM
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Can/should "threshold" signatures be implemented in Monero? (See http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ycfh4/threshold_signatures_for_bitcoin_wallets_are/)

Yes that's exactly what has been mentioned by tacotime a few times, most recently here:

(7) An implicit, silent multisig implementation centered around Schnorr signatures is being researched and developed (thanks andytoshi/gmaxwell).
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March 09, 2015, 11:22:42 AM
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Can/should "threshold" signatures be implemented in Monero? (See http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ycfh4/threshold_signatures_for_bitcoin_wallets_are/)

Yes that's exactly what has been mentioned by tacotime a few times, most recently here:

(7) An implicit, silent multisig implementation centered around Schnorr signatures is being researched and developed (thanks andytoshi/gmaxwell).


It's great to see the XMR devs working at the cutting edge of crypto-currency engineering.
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March 09, 2015, 11:31:33 AM
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Can/should "threshold" signatures be implemented in Monero? (See http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ycfh4/threshold_signatures_for_bitcoin_wallets_are/)

Yes that's exactly what has been mentioned by tacotime a few times, most recently here:

(7) An implicit, silent multisig implementation centered around Schnorr signatures is being researched and developed (thanks andytoshi/gmaxwell).


It's great to see the XMR devs working at the cutting edge of crypto-currency engineering.

To be fair the real work is credited above but we are certainly interested in it and following it.
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March 09, 2015, 12:59:55 PM
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hi

how to upgrade my wallet from Version 0.8.8.1 to Version 0.8.8.6 ??

now, when I open 0.8.8.6 simplewallet, its auto closed....
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March 09, 2015, 01:03:46 PM
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hi

how to upgrade my wallet from Version 0.8.8.1 to Version 0.8.8.6 ??

now, when I open 0.8.8.6 simplewallet, its auto closed....

I think that you also have to update the daemon.
After running the latest bitmonerod.exe you should be fine.

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March 09, 2015, 01:44:54 PM
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+100, well said Ginger!

Something along these lines would make a great addition to getmonero.org as well, maybe add a page "How can I contribute to Monero" and outline the different possibilities.

So far I was only able to do lowly footsoldier stuff like creating seed lists in different languages but I am working on acquiring the necessary skills to do more.
My motivation is obviously fueled by my desire to see Monero succeed but it also is an incentive to learn something new.

So don't go and say "this is too hard for me"...dive into it headlong and emerge with new skills!

Smiley

Great post and attitude.
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March 09, 2015, 03:47:53 PM
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Can someone explain Tether USD to me? I see it on POLO now so I'm wondering if it's easier/safer/faster for buying xmr with fiat?

Waiting 4 days for coinbase and then transferring to polo then buying is just a real pita.

Any other alternatives without buying private with escrow?

Looking for the easiest fastest and of course safe way to buy. What are you guys using now?

Coinbase is in big brothers pocket now.






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March 09, 2015, 03:54:44 PM
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Can someone explain Tether USD to me? I see it on POLO now so I'm wondering if it's easier/safer/faster for buying xmr with fiat?

Waiting 4 days for coinbase and then transferring to polo then buying is just a real pita.

Any other alternatives without buying private with escrow?

Looking for the easiest fastest and of course safe way to buy. What are you guys using now?

Coinbase is in big brothers pocket now.







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March 09, 2015, 03:56:47 PM
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Can someone explain Tether USD to me? I see it on POLO now so I'm wondering if it's easier/safer/faster for buying xmr with fiat?

Waiting 4 days for coinbase and then transferring to polo then buying is just a real pita.

Any other alternatives without buying private with escrow?

Looking for the easiest fastest and of course safe way to buy. What are you guys using now?

Coinbase is in big brothers pocket now.



Circle is instant for me. KYC dollars --> Polo BTC --> Cash XMR

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March 09, 2015, 04:19:37 PM
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If I want to help test the LMDB changes, is the best repo still: https://github.com/tewinget/bitmonero/tree/blockchain ?


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March 09, 2015, 04:31:06 PM
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https://www.circle.com/en

Checking it out.  Does it keep records for the US PoliceState?

Not that I wash money (I have so little anyway) But I abhor being spied on and feel the freedoms my ancestors died for are gone and I will fight that until the day I die any way I can.

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March 09, 2015, 04:48:05 PM
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https://www.circle.com/en

Checking it out.  Does it keep records for the US PoliceState?

Not that I wash money (I have so little anyway) But I abhor being spied on and feel the freedoms my ancestors died for are gone and I will fight that until the day I die any way I can.

KYC laws still apply. But once you've cashed into xmr, you're the boss of your privacy.

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March 09, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
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hi

how to upgrade my wallet from Version 0.8.8.1 to Version 0.8.8.6 ??

now, when I open 0.8.8.6 simplewallet, its auto closed....

I think that you also have to update the daemon.
After running the latest bitmonerod.exe you should be fine.

not good !

my daewon is 0.8.8.6, and simplewallet.exe alsooo

my wallet.bin file cant be load, after type passwrd on, simplewallet.exe closed, no any problem msg !!

my last wallet file is Version 0.8.8.1 , so .....
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March 09, 2015, 05:23:05 PM
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not good !

my daewon is 0.8.8.6, and simplewallet.exe alsooo

my wallet.bin file cant be load, after type passwrd on, simplewallet.exe closed, no any problem msg !!

my last wallet file is Version 0.8.8.1 , so .....

I replied to you on the Monero Support thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652305.msg10711562#msg10711562

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March 09, 2015, 08:49:04 PM
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Can someone explain Tether USD to me? I see it on POLO now so I'm wondering if it's easier/safer/faster for buying xmr with fiat?

Waiting 4 days for coinbase and then transferring to polo then buying is just a real pita.

Any other alternatives without buying private with escrow?

Looking for the easiest fastest and of course safe way to buy. What are you guys using now?

Coinbase is in big brothers pocket now.







I registered with https://www.kraken.com/ today but they have different levels of KYC. You must do PayCash SEPA or PayCash SWIFT.

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March 09, 2015, 08:58:59 PM
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TED talk that has connected with me.

Also, for me, connects with Monero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0HIF3SfI4#t=14

(18 minutes)

I finally watched this. Thank you, Ginger, for the link. It has also connected with me and both Sinek's "Golden Circle" as well as the "Law of Diffusion of Innovation" are very pertinent to Monero.

I would highly recommend that the Devs and all Monero Early Adopters watch the video.
I believe that the Devs are doing their thing the right way, according to the premise that people will get onboard with Monero not because it is secure, private, and untraceable; but because they believe in the tenets of security, privacy, and personal liberty.
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