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I have a theoretical question.Suppose a coin (could be Monero, or could be something else) requires 20 confirmations everywhere (exchanges, merchants, whatever). Suppose this coin also had an update that refused to accept alternate chains deeper than 19 blocks ago. That would, in theory, kill the 51% issue, right? What would the downsides be?
Which scam fork you asking this for?  thx, any critical reason to update or is this a scheduled one?
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July 14, 2018, 03:54:53 AM |
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I brought some XMR on April, which is nearly the highest price of it. Since than, the price keep drop and it ready drop like nearly 33%. Now I have been waiting for like 4 months and the surge of XMR still haven't come..... Now price of XMR now hitting near the lowest, should I buy some or just wait for the price tol drop?
We're nowhere near "the lowest". Just last year, Monero was trading at $37. I know what you mean, but I don't think the Monero can go back to $37 as the bitcoin price still have $6xxx. To me, I really wish the price will go up, so I can sell my Monero and earn some money.... Patience is a virtue man, as i can see on the chart the price of monero haggles from $0.5 to $2 for over two years! maybe the same thing will happen, it will have a sideways for a year or two between $50 - $200 before breaking out again.
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dEBRUYNE
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July 14, 2018, 08:30:31 AM |
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I have a theoretical question.Suppose a coin (could be Monero, or could be something else) requires 20 confirmations everywhere (exchanges, merchants, whatever). Suppose this coin also had an update that refused to accept alternate chains deeper than 19 blocks ago. That would, in theory, kill the 51% issue, right? What would the downsides be?
Which scam fork you asking this for?  thx, any critical reason to update or is this a scheduled one? I guess it would be prudent to upgrade if you're affected by the time-out issue.
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July 14, 2018, 01:53:54 PM |
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I have a theoretical question.Suppose a coin (could be Monero, or could be something else) requires 20 confirmations everywhere (exchanges, merchants, whatever). Suppose this coin also had an update that refused to accept alternate chains deeper than 19 blocks ago. That would, in theory, kill the 51% issue, right? What would the downsides be?
20 confirmations is 40 minutes. That seems a lot for a payment. What is an alternative chain and what is real chain? Both are real and both are alternative. Miners will decide which is real. I see only a problems if you limit that they need to decide in less then 19 blocks. Basically you take final decision out of their hands.
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Hueristic
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July 14, 2018, 02:45:41 PM |
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I have a theoretical question.Suppose a coin (could be Monero, or could be something else) requires 20 confirmations everywhere (exchanges, merchants, whatever). Suppose this coin also had an update that refused to accept alternate chains deeper than 19 blocks ago. That would, in theory, kill the 51% issue, right? What would the downsides be?
Which scam fork you asking this for?  thx, any critical reason to update or is this a scheduled one? I guess it would be prudent to upgrade if you're affected by the time-out issue. thx, I wasn't sure if it was just this. I noticed it didn't happen if I kept focus on the console itself. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't and DB breaking issues as I had a corruption issue I dealt with for awhile but didn't see a bug fix on that. Just bad timing for me on that I guess. The following critical bugs that were present in CLI v0.12.2.0 are fixed in CLI v0.12.3.0:
The time-out issue (i.e. wallet not able to connect to daemon upon creating a transaction or wallet disconnecting during wallet refresh (with either a remote node or a local node))
In addition to aforementioned salient bug fixes, there are a lot of small bug fixes and improvements. 20 confirmations is 40 minutes. That seems a lot for a payment.
What is an alternative chain and what is real chain? Both are real and both are alternative. Miners will decide which is real. I see only a problems if you limit that they need to decide in less then 19 blocks. Basically you take final decision out of their hands. Or you could fork ASICs back in because you cannot figure out your dif adjustment, theoretically. 
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dEBRUYNE
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July 15, 2018, 07:40:29 AM |
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I have a theoretical question.Suppose a coin (could be Monero, or could be something else) requires 20 confirmations everywhere (exchanges, merchants, whatever). Suppose this coin also had an update that refused to accept alternate chains deeper than 19 blocks ago. That would, in theory, kill the 51% issue, right? What would the downsides be?
Which scam fork you asking this for?  thx, any critical reason to update or is this a scheduled one? I guess it would be prudent to upgrade if you're affected by the time-out issue. thx, I wasn't sure if it was just this. I noticed it didn't happen if I kept focus on the console itself. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't and DB breaking issues as I had a corruption issue I dealt with for awhile but didn't see a bug fix on that. Just bad timing for me on that I guess. The following critical bugs that were present in CLI v0.12.2.0 are fixed in CLI v0.12.3.0:
The time-out issue (i.e. wallet not able to connect to daemon upon creating a transaction or wallet disconnecting during wallet refresh (with either a remote node or a local node))
In addition to aforementioned salient bug fixes, there are a lot of small bug fixes and improvements. 20 confirmations is 40 minutes. That seems a lot for a payment.
What is an alternative chain and what is real chain? Both are real and both are alternative. Miners will decide which is real. I see only a problems if you limit that they need to decide in less then 19 blocks. Basically you take final decision out of their hands. Or you could fork ASICs back in because you cannot figure out your dif adjustment, theoretically.  There was a bug that resulted in the daemon not syncing in "safe-mode" (which hardens against blockchain corruptions) once it was fully synced. I am not entirely sure in which v0.12 version it was fixed though.
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July 15, 2018, 04:54:31 PM |
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Monero is rolling out new updates like christmas presents, love it!
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Hueristic
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July 15, 2018, 05:04:18 PM |
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There was a bug that resulted in the daemon not syncing in "safe-mode" (which hardens against blockchain corruptions) once it was fully synced. I am not entirely sure in which v0.12 version it was fixed though.
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July 15, 2018, 09:01:24 PM |
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Doing everything right way the bulletproofs will barely catch Septembers Monero protocol upgrade. That is why it was so silly to me personally to keep postponing Aprils upgrade with hopes to include bulletproofs back then.
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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July 16, 2018, 01:42:44 AM |
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the crypto industry needs to step their game up. A surprising amount of space in the legal document was dedicated to recounting how the subjects of the indictment made their bitcoin payments and even mined bitcoin to help finance the operation. Do you suppose if a terrorist found a lump of gold on the ground, picked it up, and used it to buy weapons, the government would tell gold users and gold miners the world over that they need to "step up their game"?
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Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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July 16, 2018, 02:52:32 AM Last edit: July 17, 2018, 10:21:21 AM by Hueristic |
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the crypto industry needs to step their game up. A surprising amount of space in the legal document was dedicated to recounting how the subjects of the indictment made their bitcoin payments and even mined bitcoin to help finance the operation. Do you suppose if a terrorist found a lump of gold on the ground, picked it up, and used it to buy weapons, the government would tell gold users and gold miners the world over that they need to "step up their game"? [FUCK everything I typed got deleted dammit. Had Lazarus disabled. So lets type this again with Lazarus Addon enabled...] It is obvious to anyone that has half a brain that they are using this and anything else they can drum up to make a case against something they cannot control. Once they have control they will be extolling the virtues of crypto (that track you and will be tied to you), and I doubt that day is far off. That is why the masses need to realize they need a fungible currency to truly be free from their own Governments shackles. I see the day your SSN/government issued ID and wallet are all the same and it will be illegal to use anything other than that. The Gov is interested in one thing and that is Control and to keep it they will use any argument to get to that end. All else is secondary and if they need to use a save the children spectacle to do it they will. ADDED: I support the kinderguardians program LOL https://youtu.be/QkXeMoBPSDk?t=86
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Great News!!! "Monero’s developers have been working on various new features meant to improve the privacy-oriented currency. One of the developments to keep an eye on goes by the name of Bulletproofs. This particular feature has proven difficult to integrate, although an initial security audit byKudelski Security shows the implementation is going according to plan."
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July 18, 2018, 10:45:26 AM |
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We have anonymous xmr/btc exchange. Even anonymous usd/xmr, or usd/btc is possible. We do also EURO but only to 50,000 EUR per account. USD exchange have no limits in money and no KYC. No questions asked. And anonymous BTC Visa ATM card of course. https://exba.se
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July 18, 2018, 11:05:56 AM |
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We have anonymous xmr/btc exchange. Even anonymous usd/xmr, or usd/btc is possible. We do also EURO but only to 50,000 EUR per account. USD exchange have no limits in money and no KYC. No questions asked. And anonymous BTC Visa ATM card of course. https://exba.seThat looks good. Is there any list of the fees for each transaction/exchange? I guess they are a little higher since you have such a demanded service? About the BTC ATM card. Who delivers it to me? You? Or I has to have it from my bank? I just transact some XMR, BTC or LTC to exba.se to fund my card, then I can use card on some local ATM to withdraw EURO, or use the card on a some local store to buy some stuff and food?
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July 18, 2018, 12:03:14 PM |
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We have anonymous xmr/btc exchange. Even anonymous usd/xmr, or usd/btc is possible. We do also EURO but only to 50,000 EUR per account. USD exchange have no limits in money and no KYC. No questions asked. And anonymous BTC Visa ATM card of course. https://exba.seThat looks good. Is there any list of the fees for each transaction/exchange? I guess they are a little higher since you have such a demanded service? About the BTC ATM card. Who delivers it to me? You? Or I has to have it from my bank? I just transact some XMR, BTC or LTC to exba.se to fund my card, then I can use card on some local ATM to withdraw EURO, or use the card on a some local store to buy some stuff and food? The card will be delivered by FedEx. As I wrote here many times. Everybody ordering the card to their grandmother (who will soon die) address or to drop guy or homeless. Sorry for repeat myself. As we see people don't like to make their homework before posting questions. The fees yes they are high compared to others who will require your ID, you driver licenses or your mommy photo. But our fees are changing by automatic Algorithm according to da market. They can be from 0% to 30%. Right now they about 10% ? I think. You can open account at https://exba.se without money. Put number into exchange/withdraw menu and you will see how much you will get if ya have money/btc/xmr there... Deposit is always 100% of value. peace. PS: the card working in every ViSA ATM worldwide. You can try it online or pay in shop but we don't guarantee results. Only ATM withdraw we can refunds.
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