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July 25, 2014, 02:10:38 PM
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The screenshots where i told you were not a PnD group.. The screenshots where i said koolio was a fart sack? I've already apologized to koolio for that man. Try again!
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July 25, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
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The screenshots where i told you were not a PnD group.. The screenshots where i said koolio was a fart sack? I've already apologized to koolio for that man. Try again!

No im talking about your lies, you stated everywhere at the time that I had done a "crop job", Nice try yourself! Wink

But thanks for confirming now that they are indeed real.. I didn't realize you had apologized aswell.

For the record in one of the PMs you said "im sorry for the pump and dump thing" , you did not say "were not a PnD group" .

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July 25, 2014, 02:16:27 PM
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I will admit that i have spoken negatively of koolio. Like all of you i got caught up in the fud storm that surrounded his name. However, once i researched things for my self I came around and realized that with power and btc comes fudders like you. It's ok man, I embrace your bullshit. But you're going to need more than that. You did man, you edited it and made it look like i said i was a PnD'er.

The screenshots where i told you were not a PnD group.. The screenshots where i said koolio was a fart sack? I've already apologized to koolio for that man. Try again!

No im talking about your lies, you stated everywhere at the time that I had done a "crop job", Nice try yourself! Wink
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July 25, 2014, 02:17:58 PM
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I will admit that i did say that about koolio. Like all of you i got caught up in the fud storm that surrounded his name. However, once i researched things for my self I came around and realized that with power and btc comes fudders like you. It's ok man, I embrace your bullshit. But you're going to need more than that. You did man, you edited it and made it look like i said i was a PnD'er.

The screenshots where i told you were not a PnD group.. The screenshots where i said koolio was a fart sack? I've already apologized to koolio for that man. Try again!

No im talking about your lies, you stated everywhere at the time that I had done a "crop job", Nice try yourself! Wink

I did NOT edit it, and if you can find someone trustworthy (that we both trust) I will let that person go into my btce account and confirm that I edited nothing??




What are you saying I edited??? which bit of the message?

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July 25, 2014, 02:19:25 PM
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I recall that you left out parts of the conversation to make it look like i said i was a PND'er? There is no way in hell i'd condone allowing someone to log in to your account. You'd likely say ohhhh he had someone steal my BTC or something. I already apologized to Koolio for that man. If I really need to, i will take a screen capture of my skype where the attious conversations are located. I really just want to leave this behind and get this project on the go.
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July 25, 2014, 02:20:21 PM
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I recall that you left out parts of the conversation to make it look like i said i was a PND'er?

well that's exactly the way my inbox looked at that time, why don't you check your outbox?

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July 25, 2014, 02:21:58 PM
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I recall that you left out parts of the conversation to make it look like i said i was a PND'er? There is no way in hell i'd condone allowing someone to log in to your account. You'd likely say ohhhh he had someone steal my BTC or something. I already apologized to Koolio for that man. If I really need to, i will take a screen capture of my skype where the attious conversations are located. I really just want to leave this behind and get this project on the go.

I have no funds in there for months, I don't care about btce anymore.

So when you said "im sorry for the pnd thing" and "i regret making the pitch" etc , how exactly did I edit that to make you look bad, what exactly did I leave out?

Im not denying that anything you said about attious is true or not, so I don't care if you post Skype screenshots or not, also it sounds like you probably have revealed his real identity to the world. I don't deny that either, what I deny is that I did any "crop job" on any screenshots or faked any pastebin stuff.

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July 25, 2014, 02:23:36 PM
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DeViL303 why don't you go argue with pr0m on btc-e instead of here? why instigate it here? This is for CRYPT talk only, gtfo with your fake pastebins.

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July 25, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
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I see the screenshots and I don't see anything wrong with it. So what if he is part of a "pump and dump" group? What is the problem? Aren't we all pump and dumpers? Smiley

It is obvious to me that some people here have personal issues with Prom&Co and they are doing their best to bring Crypt down. I think it's pretty pathetic. Even the fact that you save some messages or screenshots in your btc-e inbox for future reference, i mean, come on dude. Get a life. I am the biggest pump and dumper. You might wanna take a screenshot here too Cool
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July 25, 2014, 02:27:35 PM
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ccryptcoin - if you are really one of the developers, quit screwing around here and release some news to get this coin to bump its price 10X or more!  It doesn't have to be TRUE news, it just needs to blast the price up so I can profit out of this crap coin!

I say name and shame all dev.backers involved personal details everything  
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July 25, 2014, 02:29:00 PM
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DeViL303 why don't you go argue with pr0m on btc-e instead of here? why instigate it here? This is for CRYPT talk only, gtfo with your fake pastebins.

...or get a room and make love/peace or kill yourselfs  Grin Grin Grin Grin , but not here. We guess that's enough! CRYPT already has suffered too much!

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July 25, 2014, 02:30:45 PM
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Ahh yes, when i started forming this group, a few guys told me that i should go the PND group thing to gain interested. When i realized the implications of that route I quickly abandoned that model and went for a trading group with talented Devs, chart fegs, graphics guys, and web developers instead. That pm was in response to a conversation we had openly on btc-e where you were incessantly accusing me of being a PnD crew. Which i admit i did initially say. I even gave you an apology man. I still stand by that apology, despite your constant attacks on me.

Yes, I was rude when speaking about koolio but we have talked about it and were good. I wish i were more honest with you at the time man, but i was under so much of an attack, i wasn't ready to deal with one from koolio, and you were already attacking me anyway. Please accept my apology and move on man. Do you have any interest in CRYPT what so ever? If so, please allow me to work without the constant attacks.

It is obvious that many have a personal agenda against me here. Please, give me a chance to make things right around here.

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July 25, 2014, 02:30:58 PM
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I see the screenshots and I don't see anything wrong with it. So what if he is part of a "pump and dump" group? What is the problem? Aren't we all pump and dumpers? Smiley

It is obvious to me that some people here have personal issues with Prom&Co and they are doing their best to bring Crypt down. I think it's pretty pathetic. Even the fact that you save some messages or screenshots in your btc-e inbox for future reference, i mean, come on dude. Get a life. I am the biggest pump and dumper. You might wanna take a screenshot here too Cool


I don't save them, btce saves them for me, the only reason I ever took the screenshot is because pr0m denied ever saying any of it, and you are right, what was the problem? I don't know why he lied in the first place.

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July 25, 2014, 02:35:52 PM
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If anyone finds mindfox, please tell him that i would like to speak with him.
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July 25, 2014, 02:36:10 PM
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In the meantime, CRYPT is rising again. I wish I could afford more at the moment. What a bargain this has been for so long now.
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July 25, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
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Ahh yes, when i started forming this group, a few guys told me that i should go the PND group thing to gain interested. When i realized the implications of that route I quickly abandoned that model and went for a trading group with talented Devs, chart fegs, graphics guys, and web developers instead. That pm was in response to a conversation we had openly on btc-e where you were incessantly accusing me of being a PnD crew. Which i admit i did initially say. I even gave you an apology man. I still stand by that apology, despite your constant attacks on me.

Yes, I was rude when speaking about koolio but we have talked about it and were good. I wish i were more honest with you at the time man, but i was under so much of an attack, i wasn't ready to deal with one from koolio, and you were already attacking me anyway. Please accept my apology and move on man. Do you have any interest in CRYPT what so ever? If so, please allow me to work without the constant attacks.



Ok, fair enough, that was a straight up answer, and ill give you one too, when you said I had done a crop job, on something which I 100% knew to be true, is it any surprise that im not gonna trust you. Moosa has done exactly the same thing lots of times too, it really doesn't do you guys reputation any good. all the bitching about people behind there back etc. So tbh im not surprised your group is getting so much shit, anyway maybe this will be the start of you guys cleaning up your act.. hopefully.

Yes I am kind of interested in the anon tech that crypt will hopefully offer, but I suspect that "hard to trace" isn't good enough, as if crypt was to take off and get used on black markets etc then LE will put in the effort required if its only "hard to trace" , what wil that even mean, with enough hashpower it will be possible to trace? with enough manpower it will be possible to trace?  

I think people want a better than "hard to trace" system, people want 100% anon, not 97% anon, if I want 97% anon I can use local bitcoins and a tumbler and proxy etc. that's my honest opinion,  when this coin was launched it touting "True Anon" etc, then after 100 pages it changed to "hard to trace" , whats next "awkward to trace" ? , "a real pain in the ass to trace" ? Smiley 

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July 25, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
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From what i gather, what makes it nearly impossible to trace is that the only way to tell a transaction came from 1 wallet to another is by looking at the amount of coin sent and looking in to the block and trying to find a wallet with that exact amount received in it. however, this is countered because the coins are split multiple times, mixed, and fresh coins are used from a mixer node to the receiving wallet. As the tech is used and transactions are being made, there really is no way of telling who sent it to anyone without simply guessing. There will be no direct link from wallet to wallet. Mindfox has yet to deliver this system, but we have such a system in place on KEY currently.
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July 25, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
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The only reason Mindfox called it "hard2trace" is because he didn't believe that true ANON is possible. Ever. So he just mentioned it as "hard to trace" where he was going to make sure that this is close to true anon as possible in his mind. Any other dev would have just called it "True Anon" or "Best Anon Out There" but Mindfox is a man of principles. I agree with him btw. True ANON is never ever possible even if you might think it is.
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July 25, 2014, 02:52:27 PM
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From what i gather, what makes it nearly impossible to trace is that the only way to tell a transaction came from 1 wallet to another is by looking at the amount of coin sent and looking in to the block and trying to find a wallet with that exact amount received in it. however, this is countered because the coins are split multiple times, mixed, and fresh coins are used from a mixer node to the receiving wallet. As the tech is used and transactions are being made, there really is no way of telling who sent it to anyone without simply guessing. There will be no direct link from wallet to wallet. Mindfox has yet to deliver this system, but we have such a system in place on KEY currently.

Ok, so in your mind key is already 99.9% secure? so whats crypt bringing to the market then?


If the only way to trace the transactions is by following the amounts,  has your team thought of implementing a random transaction fee setup, so the fee is always different, I know thats how some tumblers like bitfog get around that problem of tracking in and out amounts.  

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July 25, 2014, 02:55:09 PM
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Regardless of random fee, the same can be done by looking at the transactions and simply guessing. However, a lot is done to eliminate the ability to guess because the coins are as i said split multiple times and re transacted all over the place inside the mixer nodes. it is pretty much 99.9% and as the tech is used it only improves as usage increases. If i can gain some kind of traction from mindfox I will see if the same system can be modified and implemented here. It's really up to mindfox and community funding.

I would say if the goal is to throw off law enforcement, they will always catch up to you somehow. If it was to hide another business from seeing your transactions, or to buy a bit of porn or something and not have your wife find out.. im sure there are many other uses. Then there is no one in hell they will catch it.

From what i gather, what makes it nearly impossible to trace is that the only way to tell a transaction came from 1 wallet to another is by looking at the amount of coin sent and looking in to the block and trying to find a wallet with that exact amount received in it. however, this is countered because the coins are split multiple times, mixed, and fresh coins are used from a mixer node to the receiving wallet. As the tech is used and transactions are being made, there really is no way of telling who sent it to anyone without simply guessing. There will be no direct link from wallet to wallet. Mindfox has yet to deliver this system, but we have such a system in place on KEY currently.

Ok, so in your mind key is already 99.9% secure? so what crypt bring to the market then?


If the only way to trace the transactions is by following the amounts,  has your team thought of implementing a random transaction fee setup, so the fee is always different, I know that how some tumblers like bitfog get around that problem of tracking in and out amounts.  
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