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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1151202 times)
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November 05, 2016, 09:51:38 PM
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So, basically just over almost a year now and there hasn't been that much dug?
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November 05, 2016, 10:02:18 PM
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So, basically just over almost a year now and there hasn't been that much dug?
Yeah it looks to me like the bulk of the digging is done; everyone else probably lost their private keys for those addresses or don't know how to dig or simply don't care
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November 05, 2016, 11:28:39 PM
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So, basically just over almost a year now and there hasn't been that much dug?

Yes 25k in a year is not so bad.


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November 06, 2016, 12:21:36 PM
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So, basically just over almost a year now and there hasn't been that much dug?

Yes 25k in a year is not so bad.
Hory Shet, I cannot believe it passed a year since the digger, lol.

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Last edit: November 08, 2016, 01:58:21 AM by BayAreaCoins
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So, basically just over almost a year now and there hasn't been that much dug?

Yes 25k in a year is not so bad.
Hory Shet, I cannot believe it passed a year since the digger, lol.

The market is going to gain confidence again.

These levels are crazy low.  Anything under .0045 before Christmas I bet is low if the price drives... not spikes.  (even .0025 would be nice, but why not be bullish)

I've opened up FreeBitcoins.com as a Clamcoin faucet for a couple reasons, but mainly it lets users get access to their funds immediately through a "safe" blockchain.  No week wait or minimums to meet for a withdraw.  (No account in fact at all)  

We are going to work on it for the next bit and tune her up, but right now it is fairly bare bones and we link Just-dice and Bustaclam for wallets that people can use that work with our "Bitcoins".

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November 07, 2016, 06:09:14 PM
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So, basically just over almost a year now and there hasn't been that much dug?

Yes 25k in a year is not so bad.
Hory Shet, I cannot believe it passed a year since the digger, lol.

The market is going to gain confidence again.

These levels are crazy low.  Anything under .0045 before Christmas I bet is low if the price drives... not spikes.  (even .0025 would be nice, but why not be bullish)

I've opened up FreeBitcoins.com as a Clamcoin faucet for a couple reasons, but mainly it lets users get access to their funds immediately through a "safe" blockchain.  No week wait or minimums to meet for a withdraw.  (No account in fact at all)   

We are going to work on it for the next bit and tune her up, but right now it is fairly bare bones and we link Just-dice and Bustaclam for wallets that people can use that work with our "Bitcoins".

Right now if you put in for a faucet withdraw it will go pending... will update when working again Tongue

Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.


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November 07, 2016, 07:56:53 PM
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So, basically just over almost a year now and there hasn't been that much dug?

Yes 25k in a year is not so bad.
Hory Shet, I cannot believe it passed a year since the digger, lol.

The market is going to gain confidence again.

These levels are crazy low.  Anything under .0045 before Christmas I bet is low if the price drives... not spikes.  (even .0025 would be nice, but why not be bullish)

I've opened up FreeBitcoins.com as a Clamcoin faucet for a couple reasons, but mainly it lets users get access to their funds immediately through a "safe" blockchain.  No week wait or minimums to meet for a withdraw.  (No account in fact at all)  

We are going to work on it for the next bit and tune her up, but right now it is fairly bare bones and we link Just-dice and Bustaclam for wallets that people can use that work with our "Bitcoins".

Right now if you put in for a faucet withdraw it will go pending... will update when working again Tongue

Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.

Someone should set up a gambling site or decentralized autonomous contract gambling, where clams get burned if you lose or something.  
Would help decrease supply, or at least regulate it?  Or, maybe put clam voting system to use and vote to change supply rate? (in terms of stake rate, not sure if possible for digging)

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November 07, 2016, 11:03:12 PM
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Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.
Someone should set up a gambling site or decentralized autonomous contract gambling, where clams get burned if you lose or something.  
Would help decrease supply, or at least regulate it?  Or, maybe put clam voting system to use and vote to change supply rate? (in terms of stake rate, not sure if possible for digging)

On a side note: 
 
It is easy to forget that the CLAM supply is still significantly less than BTC, the inflation curve is more conservative for quite some time yet, and each clam that is staked represents a smaller amount of 'inflation' proportionally due to the ever growing total supply. 

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November 08, 2016, 01:59:32 AM
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www.FreeBitcoins.com Clamcoin faucet is now working again.  Withdraws every minute and no accounts!

Withdraw to Just-dice or Bustaclam and play for free!

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www.FreeBitcoins.com Clamcoin faucet is now working again.  Withdraws every minute and no accounts!

Withdraw to Just-dice or Bustaclam and play for free!

Thanks, it's hard to come across good faucets now days.  Most pay like once a week or something so this is pretty cool
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Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.
Someone should set up a gambling site or decentralized autonomous contract gambling, where clams get burned if you lose or something.  
Would help decrease supply, or at least regulate it?  Or, maybe put clam voting system to use and vote to change supply rate? (in terms of stake rate, not sure if possible for digging)

On a side note:  
  
It is easy to forget that the CLAM supply is still significantly less than BTC, the inflation curve is more conservative for quite some time yet, and each clam that is staked represents a smaller amount of 'inflation' proportionally due to the ever growing total supply.  

I must not be understanding something correctly.  

http://khashier.com/       says 16092480.15730008 coins created.

https://blockchain.info/charts/total-bitcoins       says 15,972,763  total btc.  

How is that significantly less, looks like the other way around?  

Hmm..  I also see that coinmarketcap    says 1,987,196 CLAM  available supply.

So that is all that has been staked & dug? 





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Hmm..  I also see that coinmarketcap    says 1,987,196 CLAM  available supply.

So that is all that has been staked & dug?  
 
  
Yes Smiley  
  
In order to reach the larger figure, every single person who was using Bitcoin/Litecoin/Dogecoin would have to claim (and thus be aware of) CLAM.  
  
Indeed, at this point I think it is likely that at least some of those keys have been lost to the ages (possibly many of them).

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November 08, 2016, 07:21:13 AM
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www.FreeBitcoins.com Clamcoin faucet is now working again.  Withdraws every minute and no accounts!

Withdraw to Just-dice or Bustaclam and play for free!

Thanks, it's hard to come across good faucets now days.  Most pay like once a week or something so this is pretty cool

Thanks!

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It is easy to forget that the CLAM supply is still significantly less than BTC, the inflation curve is more conservative for quite some time yet, and each clam that is staked represents a smaller amount of 'inflation' proportionally due to the ever growing total supply.  

I must not be understanding something correctly.  

http://khashier.com/       says 16092480.15730008 coins created.

https://blockchain.info/charts/total-bitcoins       says 15,972,763  total btc.  

How is that significantly less, looks like the other way around?  

Hmm..  I also see that coinmarketcap    says 1,987,196 CLAM  available supply.

So that is all that has been staked & dug?  

The distribution is based on the number of unspent outputs (regardless of the amount) that existed on a specific date, so it's not a 1:1 CLAM:BTC relationship, nor did the distribution necessarily favour BTC wallets with a large balance.

If on that day you had 1000 BTC in a single unspent output, the CLAM blockchain will have have 1 transaction that matches your key (~4.6 CLAMs)

If on that day you had 0.1 BTC spread over 10 unspent outputs, the CLAM blockchain will have 10 transactions that match your keys (~46 CLAMs)

To further complicate things, initial PoS rewards were based on a lotto system that could occasionally reward hundreds (or was it thousands?) of CLAMs if you won the stake of a special reward block.

So yeah, there's no really clear relationship between BTC minted, and CLAMs claimed.
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November 21, 2016, 09:24:57 PM
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If anyone in the community has programming experience and experience with IFTTT (and would be willing to get involved), please PM this account or visit the freenode IRC #clams channel. 
 
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November 21, 2016, 09:49:58 PM
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Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.
Someone should set up a gambling site or decentralized autonomous contract gambling, where clams get burned if you lose or something.  
Would help decrease supply, or at least regulate it?  Or, maybe put clam voting system to use and vote to change supply rate? (in terms of stake rate, not sure if possible for digging)

On a side note: 
 
It is easy to forget that the CLAM supply is still significantly less than BTC, the inflation curve is more conservative for quite some time yet, and each clam that is staked represents a smaller amount of 'inflation' proportionally due to the ever growing total supply. 

Another inflation curve braindead kid. To stress the point inflation curve is not the only magical aspect of viability a buyer would love to gauge before hes in.
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November 21, 2016, 11:32:20 PM
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Another inflation curve braindead kid. To stress the point inflation curve is not the only magical aspect of viability a buyer would love to gauge before hes in.
 
 
Nothing magical.   
The conversation was specifically referencing coin supply; thus, coin supply was specifically referenced.

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November 25, 2016, 05:20:14 PM
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Is there an API that I could use to check a few hundred thousand bitcoin and dogecoin addresses to see if any have CLAMS that can be claimed?

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November 29, 2016, 03:16:08 PM
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Is there an API that I could use to check a few hundred thousand bitcoin and dogecoin addresses to see if any have CLAMS that can be claimed?

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you should download and sync the CLAM wallet, make sure your addresses are empty and there is a process to check all the addresses, it should be here in the thread, someone will answer with more specifical info or you could ask for help on the clam IRC #clams on freenode.
Eitherway you should start downloading the wallet and sync it as first step.

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November 29, 2016, 08:55:55 PM
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Is there an API that I could use to check a few hundred thousand bitcoin and dogecoin addresses to see if any have CLAMS that can be claimed?

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you should download and sync the CLAM wallet, make sure your addresses are empty and there is a process to check all the addresses, it should be here in the thread, someone will answer with more specifical info or you could ask for help on the clam IRC #clams on freenode.
Eitherway you should start downloading the wallet and sync it as first step.

It can be as simple as placing the wallet.dat file holding the addresses in the data folder. 
You can also use the file->import wallet command and browse to the wallet. 
Finally, if the debug file shows some missed keys on importing that way you can try with the -salvagewallet flag.

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