[XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos

[tr8kr]

the question is how long will we have the dollar or the euro? if the story goes on like this we will have hyperinflation in a not that far future

In these day we are replacing slowly paper by email and ebook think about it for banknote and how to secure transaction and copy of it. In using the XC platform encrypted secure and quick with anonimity or not.

XC platform have many layer to use and XChat is a layer for consumers and answering at the problem of privacy behind communication. see the news about this on all newspaper each day we have drama about violation of privacy.

[wooder]

I really like your XC platform i'm sure it will become a standard for future bank transaction.

It's exact , XC follow this way and not the currency one even if it has a currency at disposal for this function it is in no way for replace dollar or euro or any fiat.

the question is how long will we have the dollar or the euro? if the story goes on like this we will have hyperinflation in a not that far future

[atcsecure]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

With out really digging into bitmessage in more detail I can't answer that question...

[atcsecure]

v0.9.2.48a_RC2.XCurrency-2.47


Available for download [testing release]

http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/XCurrency-qt.exe


If you want to enable the mixer use the startup command below

-distmix-autonode


This should be considered EXTREME TESTING SOFTWARE ONLY - as such you can run with 150XC when using the -distmix-autonode

Its been a long day finishing up code for this release, any issues/questions/etc will be answered tomorrow as I need to break free from the PC

Dan

[cryptico]

v0.9.2.48a_RC2.XCurrency-2.47


Available for download [testing release]

http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/XCurrency-qt.exe


If you want to enable the mixer use the startup command below

-distmix-autonode


This should be considered EXTREME TESTING SOFTWARE ONLY - as such you can run with 150XC when using the -distmix-autonode

Its been a long day finishing up code for this release, any issues/questions/etc will be answered tomorrow as I need to break free from the PC

Dan

Thank you Dan Im going to sleep now I will see what people say tomo

[atcsecure]

v0.9.2.48a_RC2.XCurrency-2.47


Available for download [testing release]

http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/XCurrency-qt.exe


If you want to enable the mixer use the startup command below

-distmix-autonode


This should be considered EXTREME TESTING SOFTWARE ONLY - as such you can run with 150XC when using the -distmix-autonode

Its been a long day finishing up code for this release, any issues/questions/etc will be answered tomorrow as I need to break free from the PC

Dan

You can use private transactions with out -distmix-autonode, this option just allows your node to be come a mixer


Dan

[tr8kr]

Good night Dan take care !

[CryptoGretzky]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

[georgehosterguy]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

Bc one is open source?

[sugarboy321]

v0.9.2.48a_RC2.XCurrency-2.47


Available for download [testing release]

http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/XCurrency-qt.exe


If you want to enable the mixer use the startup command below

-distmix-autonode


This should be considered EXTREME TESTING SOFTWARE ONLY - as such you can run with 150XC when using the -distmix-autonode

Its been a long day finishing up code for this release, any issues/questions/etc will be answered tomorrow as I need to break free from the PC

Dan


Help a Noobie out,

Enter this in console?

Xcurrency-qt -distmix-autonode

thx

[demgains]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

Bc one is open source?

There are good reasons to not go open source right away. We saw with Keycoin that in less than 24 hours, our mixing code for anonymity was copied and modified. Surely the crypto world would love to get their hands on XC's tech, and based off previous history, XChat will go open source, maybe in a month or two when we are further along with the voice and video calling. Even then the community will only get the barebone XChat with basic msging. In an ecosystem full of scam coins, this is protection for our coin, but more importantly protection for the whole crypto community.

[CryptoGretzky]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

Bc one is open source?

So what if it's open source?   The question is... even if it's open source, do YOU know how secure it is.   BitMessage is still awaiting independent audit themselves like I said.  Even if both are open source, if both have not been audited independently... you don't really know how secure it is.   eg.  there is nothing to quantify against each other.

It's like arguing about who's lawn is greener without a spectrophotometer or... who can throw the ball faster without a calibrated radar gun.

We are just not at the point to ask questions like that yet.

[shakesbear]

rdnkjdi... should I invest in PoW? So the miners, (who are the early adopters) can get rich? Which will lead to No community, no consensus = coin stagnates & dies.

-NXT vs Litecoin? Talk about cherry picking to make your argument about PoS vs PoW.

-This price stability is the result of people at the top of the food chain not selling? You correct! Why? Because they know the price is too low. Thank you Captain Obvious.

You have been accused of FUD in other threads, because where there is smoke, there is fire. Yesterday we have news that REV2 is going to be released and you show up. How convenient. This thread had been FUD-free for the longest time, and now we have a gentleman who is suffering from Dunning–Kruger effect, telling us what a weak community we have here, and our tech will have no impact. What are you basing your metrics on? A feeling? The talking rock by the river?

No KimmyF. I will not listen to him, because I know who he is, and what he is doing. He is talking about absolutes. He is making claims about consensus, that can be applied to almost all the coins, but is cherry picking. How is that a fair discussion? Nobody here knows the future, so why would I listen to an argument that is singling out XC? Its true... he claims not to support any other coin, but its obvious Monero is his baby. Enough with this guy already.

+1

This is so awesome, thanks for backing me up guys. I counted  three of you, only 47 more to go until the whole community stands against rijkrstinski

I lol at this.
This is kind of funny. But we do have a lot of same poster here everyday. It will be great to see some new faces

[CryptoGretzky]

rdnkjdi... should I invest in PoW? So the miners, (who are the early adopters) can get rich? Which will lead to No community, no consensus = coin stagnates & dies.

-NXT vs Litecoin? Talk about cherry picking to make your argument about PoS vs PoW.

-This price stability is the result of people at the top of the food chain not selling? You correct! Why? Because they know the price is too low. Thank you Captain Obvious.

You have been accused of FUD in other threads, because where there is smoke, there is fire. Yesterday we have news that REV2 is going to be released and you show up. How convenient. This thread had been FUD-free for the longest time, and now we have a gentleman who is suffering from Dunning–Kruger effect, telling us what a weak community we have here, and our tech will have no impact. What are you basing your metrics on? A feeling? The talking rock by the river?

No KimmyF. I will not listen to him, because I know who he is, and what he is doing. He is talking about absolutes. He is making claims about consensus, that can be applied to almost all the coins, but is cherry picking. How is that a fair discussion? Nobody here knows the future, so why would I listen to an argument that is singling out XC? Its true... he claims not to support any other coin, but its obvious Monero is his baby. Enough with this guy already.

+1

This is so awesome, thanks for backing me up guys. I counted  three of you, only 47 more to go until the whole community stands against rijkrstinski

The best thing you can do is... not feed the trolls.  Even communicating to trolls make them spill more crud.

[georgehosterguy]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

Bc one is open source?

So what if it's open source?   The question is... even if it's open source, do YOU know how secure it is.   BitMessage is still awaiting independent audit themselves like I said.  Even if both are open source, if both have not been audited independently... you don't really know how secure it is.   eg.  there is nothing to quantify against each other.

It's like arguing about who's lawn is greener without a spectrophotometer or... who can throw the ball faster without a calibrated radar gun.

We are just not at the point to ask questions like that yet.

Open source anon software > closed source that claims to be anon.
 

[demgains]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

Bc one is open source?

So what if it's open source?   The question is... even if it's open source, do YOU know how secure it is.   BitMessage is still awaiting independent audit themselves like I said.  Even if both are open source, if both have not been audited independently... you don't really know how secure it is.   eg.  there is nothing to quantify against each other.

It's like arguing about who's lawn is greener without a spectrophotometer or... who can throw the ball faster without a calibrated radar gun.

We are just not at the point to ask questions like that yet.

Open source anon software > closed source that claims to be anon.
 

XC has possibly one of the most skilled and competent devs in all of cryptos. I'm 100% certain it is anon.....especially since the keycoin devs have reached out to him not once but TWICE for his expertise and opinions. Then we also have Aercoin support and qibuck support as well. People know Dan is more skilled than almost all other devs out there, and soon many more devs will be asking for his services

[sugarboy321]

Can anyone confirm that the mixer is working?

[dannyspk]

And yet the dumping continues on..

[tat123]

I really don't think that is mike, because we have seen how easily XC can be pumped, and how much more expensive it can be, I really don't think they would play with cents when they can probably play with whole dollars if you get what I mean.

Whole dollar coins gets you a lot less coins.  That's part of my point.  He basically said without coming staight out and saying it, he can only afford to control price of XC because our coins are cheaper.  He's also picking XC because XC is a great coin and people will believe the price is climbing because of that.  He can't manipulate price of a shit coin that costs nothing because people won't buy into the price climb.  Also he can't do it with something like BTC because he doesn't have enough capitol to make a difference.

With all do respect dude (88flaminchevy), you seem to be new at the whole crypto world. This is a very positive comment by someone that very excited about XC and sincerely wants it to succeed. To spin this and make it sound like a negative and instill fear in traders shows me your lack of experience. If you don't want to invest in XC, please move on. Mike x 3 is respected in the XC community and many of us have really benefited from his advice. Please keep it that way. Enough said.

Sorry, but I'm not a noob and I'm very much invested in XC!  Even though my reaction to mikes comments scared me, I sat back for a second and said, "I'll see if it happens".  In the real world, people are 2 faced, sorry to tell you that.  I've already told you guys what I do for a living, and I'm just saying that you need to watch out for people that leave you a bread crumb trail.  They are usually leading you somewhere.  It happens in my line of work all the time.  If he's really the kind of guy you guys say he is, he would have never told us what he was going to do.  It does not benefit him or his investors what so ever.  What, he's just a nice guy trying to help everyone else make a buck.....? I don't think so.  Those people are very few and far between.  I hope I'm wrong for both me and everyone else invested in XC's sake!

Sorry guys ... don't mean to fud your thread.  I see many tears in this coins future (I'm a Jasinlee stalker from Fib).  But think about this - if this investor meant this why would he tell you instead of give the benefit of "cheap coins" to his "clients" who are paying him (if I'm understanding this right)?  By explaining all of this to you - he's essentially ripping his customers who are paying for advice off by making their coins more expensive before he "sits down to talk with them" (which makes no sense)

I lost a lot.  And I mean A LOT of money between Vertcoin & Fibonacci ASICs.  My suggestion is treat this alt carefully.  Think about it this way.

If you'd put $100 in bitcoin when it was $1 - then you would be rich.  If XC is truly the future that will overtake bitcoin.  Then 100 coins is plenty to set yourself up for the future.  On the other hand if XC is not the future it will die off (because currency needs consensus - not just technology).  A lot of people are making money and losing money off playing hot potato with a lot of different coins.

But $100 is plenty if you believe this coin is going to overtake bitcoin without betting the farm.  Take it from somebody who has & lost.

Edit:  I'm not a litecoin, bitcoin, darkcoin, vertcoin or anycoin holder anymore.  

Maybe just be a coincidence but rdnkjdi Talked today about being pissed about losing money to Jason, and he talks about consensus every 5 minutes in rpietila Altcoin Observer, and he says he doesn't own any coins. Just like you. Hmmmm. What are the odds? On the same day! Any Math guys here? Maybe its just some sort of consensanus between 2 guys... huh? Not judging.

You are correct. Open source is better, but as we have discussed it a 1000x already... not now. We discussed this issue about 3 months ago. The community came to a consensus on the issue.

[GreenDude]

Dont worry.. if there is a fud attempt to get coins a bit cheaper is because there is gonna be a pump soon as there is news and important positive dates coming this next days. They can't get cheap coins without fud.. otherwise someone would buy those little sell walls trying to push down. They are playing their card before is too late to buy cheap and price rise. That is good.