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September 08, 2014, 08:38:17 PM |
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I feel sorry for Dan. "You're damned if you do and damned if you don't."
The guy has bills to pay just like the rest of us. His personal needs have to come before XC investor's needs.
Yeah we sometimes moan on a high standard in here ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . little bit like german national team , they never get good critics at home, but thats how you win the championship ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . I don't think in this case he puts this before XC because of the money, its the strategy to benefit XC in the long run. some might disagree with this outlook but i wouldn't accuse Dan of shifting interests here. not one bit. . Also he is not the pumper. the pumpers are the devs who turn a positive Dan review in the greatest thing that ever happened to their coin. Its not Dans fault that his reviews spark that reaction, the fact they do will make rounds in the scene. It would be insane not to capitalise on it the way synechist did with the press release. I also think the heights of the pumps will taper of from review to review. than what remains in the minds of almost everybody interested in some kind of anon crypto is that Dan probably has the best code since he has seen all the others and is approving his own daily. this is short time vs long time. I don't have funds to ride those pumps so i would like to skip to the benefit part too but thats not how it works. I said it before the only mistake would be basing most part of the PR campaign on Dans status. I don't think thats the intention at all it just is today the main story.
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September 08, 2014, 08:42:19 PM |
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trolling on BTC forums with a recently dead person as username is very classy indeed..
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September 08, 2014, 08:43:50 PM |
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i think the status Dan recieves threw those reviews will benefit xc in the long run. Hopefully so. But to me, it shows he isn't 100% dedicated to XC, which I thought he was a month or so ago. Now we got a big advert saying Dan is a professional coin pumper. don't sound that great to me. What part of the post below don't you understand? or do you just expect Dan to not have any spare time? I've started a proof-of-code service, to review code and in the future will also be doing digital signatures on builds so that users can be assured that the wallet is clean and virus free.
Yes it is a paid service that I'm doing in my spare-time.
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I get it, and I understand. But if he's doing, say 2 reviews a week, how long does that take? The man still has to eat, sleep and live a life aswel. Where is the line between spare time and XC time? Hopefully there are other developers working away on XC while Dan is busy with his new proof of code service thats all I can say. And yeah, sure I understand he's got bills to pay, and your gonna go where the money is, but XC should make him very rich if he focuses on that and not on transfering the money in crypto from XC to other coins he's pumping. No, it is obvious that you don't get it. He said in his spare time. That would mean that he is doing it during the time that he would not be working on XC anyway. What do you want Dan to do, publish his daily 24 hour schedule broken down into 15 minute intervals, so you can give your thoughts on if he is working on XC enough, spending enough time with his family, and so you can make sure he is getting enough sleep each day? Damn, there are some needy people in this world.
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September 08, 2014, 08:49:30 PM |
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I feel sorry for Dan. "You're damned if you do and damned if you don't."
The guy has bills to pay just like the rest of us. His personal needs have to come before XC investor's needs.
Yeah we sometimes moan on a high standard in here ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . little bit like german national team , they never get good critics at home, but thats how you win the championship ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . I don't think in this case he puts this before XC because of the money, its the strategy to benefit XC in the long run. some might disagree with this outlook but i wouldn't accuse Dan of shifting interests here. not one bit. . Also he is not the pumper. the pumpers are the devs who turn a positive Dan review in the greatest thing that ever happened to their coin. Its not Dans fault that his reviews spark that reaction, the fact they do will make rounds in the scene. It would be insane not to capitalise on it the way synechist did with the press release. I also think the heights of the pumps will taper of from review to review. than what remains in the minds of almost everybody interested in some kind of anon crypto is that Dan probably has the best code since he has seen all the others and is approving his own daily. this is short time vs long time. I don't have funds to ride those pumps so i would like to skip to the benefit part too but thats not how it works. I said it before the only mistake would be basing most part of the PR campaign on Dans status. I don't think thats the intention at all it just is today the main story. All fair points. I probably just need to take a chill pill lol. Watching my money go down daily is just pissing me off at the moment and things related to actual XC development seem to be slowing down. I hope this Rev 2 has something worth talking about when its released next week.
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September 08, 2014, 08:53:11 PM |
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i think the status Dan recieves threw those reviews will benefit xc in the long run. Hopefully so. But to me, it shows he isn't 100% dedicated to XC, which I thought he was a month or so ago. Now we got a big advert saying Dan is a professional coin pumper. don't sound that great to me. What part of the post below don't you understand? or do you just expect Dan to not have any spare time? I've started a proof-of-code service, to review code and in the future will also be doing digital signatures on builds so that users can be assured that the wallet is clean and virus free.
Yes it is a paid service that I'm doing in my spare-time.
Dan
I get it, and I understand. But if he's doing, say 2 reviews a week, how long does that take? The man still has to eat, sleep and live a life aswel. Where is the line between spare time and XC time? Hopefully there are other developers working away on XC while Dan is busy with his new proof of code service thats all I can say. And yeah, sure I understand he's got bills to pay, and your gonna go where the money is, but XC should make him very rich if he focuses on that and not on transfering the money in crypto from XC to other coins he's pumping. No, it is obvious that you don't get it. He said in his spare time. That would mean that he is doing it during the time that he would not be working on XC anyway. What do you want Dan to do, publish his daily 24 hour schedule broken down into 15 minute intervals, so you can give your thoughts on if he is working on XC enough, spending enough time with his family, and so you can make sure he is getting enough sleep each day? Damn, there are some needy people in this world. Haha! ok, point taken. Just saying, there's gotta be a point where there aren't enough hours in the day. Im gonna stop moaning now and just carry on having faith that Dan knows what he's doing.
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September 08, 2014, 09:01:30 PM |
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trolling on BTC forums with a recently dead person as username is very classy indeed..
I will feel honored if someone chooses my name to troll with after i die ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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September 08, 2014, 09:09:02 PM |
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trolling on BTC forums with a recently dead person as username is very classy indeed..
I will feel honored if someone chooses my name to troll with after i die ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) sure what an honor....
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September 08, 2014, 09:09:40 PM |
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I feel sorry for Dan. "You're damned if you do and damned if you don't."
The guy has bills to pay just like the rest of us. His personal needs have to come before XC investor's needs.
Why would you feel sorry for Dan? He is doing all the right things here. Don't let the shill's fuck with your head. What Dan is providing is a great service, and I wouldnt be surprised if some of the BTC he is stacking from code reviews shows up on the REV 2 bounty. So let's let the man work, we are 1 week away from REV 2 and have a week full of awesome news in store. Don't let the emo fud spreaders get to you. If you ignore their nonsense long enough they will get bored. He is doing the right things, just look at other coins he reviewed. All got a quick price boost after the announcement of the review and then dropped to a level a little above there older bottom. Seems logic to me, a new coin without a review people will calculate a 'bad code' risk into the price that Dan removes with his review. But what really surprises me is the post from CryptoGretzky that somehow got burried: Just check that transaction, compare it with older anon transactions that where so strong on its own & combine it with Dan statements about layered functionality. We all (should know) the layers that XC already has but to me it looks like XC Anon tech & the new mixers got a brand new layer of anon that is just out of this world. And this week we can expect another surprise from the team ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If all you do is focus on a quick P&D this thread maybe the wrong place for you
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September 08, 2014, 09:11:04 PM |
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trolling on BTC forums with a recently dead person as username is very classy indeed..
I will feel honored if someone chooses my name to troll with after i die ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Troll Inception.
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September 08, 2014, 09:19:00 PM |
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Don't forget Dan gets insights into the closed source codebase of many competing coins. Think what he learns from that.
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September 08, 2014, 09:20:50 PM |
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something weird happened... I was in youtube as usual but I could not watch any videos... the site was working but the videos did not download and there was always the wheel thing in the video...
Then I connected with the Tor Browser and now I can watch the videos?
Does this mean that my IP address was haked? Or what does it mean?
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September 08, 2014, 09:28:26 PM |
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something weird happened... I was in youtube as usual but I could not watch any videos... the site was working but the videos did not download and there was always the wheel thing in the video...
Then I connected with the Tor Browser and now I can watch the videos?
Does this mean that my IP address was haked? Or what does it mean?
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September 08, 2014, 09:33:10 PM |
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arguing with PR people and Bagholders is like beating a dead horse.
Perhaps. On the other hand, arguing with paranoiacs and conspiracy theorists is like reasoning with an Escher drawing. This is exactly why I'm not leaving.
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September 08, 2014, 09:33:59 PM |
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something weird happened... I was in youtube as usual but I could not watch any videos... the site was working but the videos did not download and there was always the wheel thing in the video...
Then I connected with the Tor Browser and now I can watch the videos?
Does this mean that my IP address was haked? Or what does it mean?
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzhunt.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2F2013%2F09%2Fnsa.jpg&t=665&c=V9QPemPAd2c6xA) The Freaky thing is that I am sub to many anti illuminati channels and today I subbed to a new channel of a guy that makes anti illuminati videos and got his old account shut down twice already...
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September 08, 2014, 09:39:05 PM |
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something weird happened... I was in youtube as usual but I could not watch any videos... the site was working but the videos did not download and there was always the wheel thing in the video...
Then I connected with the Tor Browser and now I can watch the videos?
Does this mean that my IP address was haked? Or what does it mean?
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzhunt.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2F2013%2F09%2Fnsa.jpg&t=665&c=V9QPemPAd2c6xA) The Freaky thing is that I am sub to many anti illuminati channels and today I subbed to a new channel of a guy that makes anti illuminati videos and got his old account shut down twice already... but ... don't burn your laptop jet, just download the TOR stick:) Joking aside, yes it is strange, watching YT over tor is not so easy, your direct link sould work better/faster. Guess we all need privacy
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September 08, 2014, 09:53:17 PM |
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The salty tears caused by un-diversified bad investments. No. They are caused by lies and business practices that would land you in prison in a regulated world. It's great to see the XC camp is still fully invested in Jasinlee's success. I lost way more putting money into a coin and I didn't have a problem with it. Because I was not lied to. And I was not used to extract 99% value out of the pump of a shitcoin and then offered a 1% refund in an extremely pre-meditated action. P.S. You guys expect me to go away but keep mis quoting my statements or the situation. If you'll shut up about it I will. (I would still like a statement that no money was received from Jasinlee post ASIC project funds being received by him) Here is your STATEMENT - NO MONEY was received by Jasinlee EVER. Thank you for the communication Dan. We're waiting on confirmation for this, with proof ( as Teka always asks for) , from Jason aka Jasinlee. Once that has been resolved and once Jasin proves he has enough money to either refund or order the units, we'll be out of your way. However, if this goes unresolved or Jasin continues to prioritize his role with you over finishing what he started with us, we'll be hearing more of each other. Hey, maybe we'll be friends after all of this. PS just bought some more XC to see if this rev 2 pump actually pans out.
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September 08, 2014, 10:18:08 PM |
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PS just bought some more XC to see if this rev 2 pump actually pans out.
HA! I think its rev 2.5 but the shills don't stay up to date too well.
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September 08, 2014, 10:30:38 PM |
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Imagine if you owned a ton of stock in a high-end luxury car company. But the lead designer/developer of these high-end cars, is paid by low-end car companies in his spare time, to review their car's features and release a statement like "this low-end car's features are safe and well made" (resulting in an immediate increased demand for the low-end car company's stock, because they received a stamp of approval from a high-end company). Then the plan is, by continuing to legitimize and confirm the quality of their low-end competitors, the demand for the high-end car's stock will eventually go up because the public will respect their expertise for confirming the quality of other cars? Seriously? As an investor in the luxury car company, you may hope that they use their higher quality as a competitive advantage, leveraged to increase the distance between them and their low-end competitors. Instead the company is actively promoting the quality of their competitors and closing that gap. Then trying to further justify it by saying its good for the industry and will help keep consumers safe? How about we market how much better our own technology is, try to entice consumers to buy our product, which can provide them with that high level of safety and confidence that is lacking in the industry. I can't blame Dan for wanting to make money, but damn. At least be honest in the statement and say "hey Dan is going to use his knowledge to review the code of some other coins for a little extra income". It doesn't take a business guru to see that this is not effective promotion for XC.
Very well said.
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September 08, 2014, 10:32:44 PM |
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Nice try, but don't forget you are talking to members that have been here a little longer but he, feel invited to submit your guesses to claim the public bounty after Syn publishes it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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