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October 07, 2014, 04:13:50 PM |
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so before two weeks..in theory will it be ready as well for cloud storage and every other content delivery that someone wants to built on top of the Mesh Network??
I thought this was coming after Rev3 ..this will be Huge.
anyway we need Mac and Linux release out ASAP.
We haven't given a deadline for Rev 2.5, so not 2 weeks. XC's web 3.0 functionality may come in a few stages, since web architecture has several layers. At first it'll have the capacity to allow third parties to buy ad space (and possibly other services) through a traditional website, and will be served on Qibuck wallets and pretty much anywhere else. As things progress, we could add distributed personal file storage, decentralised "email", a generalised web app API, distributed website hosting, etc. etc. As you can imagine, that'll take some time, and is probably best done as several separate services - with an appropriate layering of code. Dan Said new UI and mobile wallet in two weeks I understood that that was rev 2.5.. What about Mac and Linux release? a snr member was asking for the linux release yesterday to compile but we had no links to direct him to same situation will be for a mac wallet new release. Can you give us info about what is the situation with reviews by Atlas and other Crypto members? has been a while now since they were announced. Thx REV2.5 has always been about finalizing the XChat feature. Where in the announcement Dan gave about the new UI + mobile wallet did he mention XChat? New UI + Mobile wallet are no doubt aspects of REV 2.5, but they do not make up the entire package. We need a polished XChat.
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October 07, 2014, 04:14:34 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern.
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October 07, 2014, 04:18:18 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern. Did you read what I said about making the images .jpg? It would help the load time a lot.
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October 07, 2014, 04:18:27 PM |
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Dan Said new UI and mobile wallet in two weeks I understood that that was rev 2.5..
What about Mac and Linux release? a snr member was asking for the linux release yesterday to compile but we had no links to direct him to same situation will be for a mac wallet new release.
Can you give us info about what is the situation with reviews by Atlas and other Crypto members? has been a while now since they were announced.
Thx
REV2.5 has always been about finalizing the XChat feature. Where in the announcement Dan gave about the new UI + mobile wallet did he mention XChat? New UI + Mobile wallet are no doubt aspects of REV 2.5, but they do not make up the entire package. We need a polished XChat. Xchat is pretty damn polished already Dan announced mobile chat with the mobile wallet. right now we are ironing group chat that was supposed to be a REV3 release
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October 07, 2014, 04:20:17 PM |
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Dan Said new UI and mobile wallet in two weeks I understood that that was rev 2.5..
What about Mac and Linux release? a snr member was asking for the linux release yesterday to compile but we had no links to direct him to same situation will be for a mac wallet new release.
Can you give us info about what is the situation with reviews by Atlas and other Crypto members? has been a while now since they were announced.
Thx
REV2.5 has always been about finalizing the XChat feature. Where in the announcement Dan gave about the new UI + mobile wallet did he mention XChat? New UI + Mobile wallet are no doubt aspects of REV 2.5, but they do not make up the entire package. We need a polished XChat. Xchat is pretty damn polished already Dan announced mobile chat with the mobile wallet. right now we are ironing group chat that was supposed to be a REV3 release Well, I don't know then!
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October 07, 2014, 04:21:30 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern. When are the code reviews going to be coming as well, I swear i read earlier this week in the thread that someone said Kristov Atlas would be doing a code review for XC. Are you guys wating for final 2.5 REV or what is the timeline on the code reviews. They would help immensely to get skeptics on board with XC.
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October 07, 2014, 04:22:06 PM |
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Did you read what I said about making the images .jpg?
It would help the load time a lot.
Yes I did, but you are mistaken :-) At the same (or higher) level of compression, PNG is smaller.
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October 07, 2014, 04:23:24 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern. When are the code reviews going to be coming as well, I swear i read earlier this week in the thread that someone said Kristov Atlas would be doing a code review for XC. Are you guys wating for final 2.5 REV or what is the timeline on the code reviews. They would help immensely to get skeptics on board with XC.Fully agree. Code reviews by reputable sources should be a #1 priority right now. Fortunately, I believe it is a #1 priority.
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cryptico
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October 07, 2014, 04:24:30 PM |
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I swear waiting for XC updates feels like giving birth to a child sometimes
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October 07, 2014, 04:24:39 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern. When are the code reviews going to be coming as well, I swear i read earlier this week in the thread that someone said Kristov Atlas would be doing a code review for XC. Are you guys wating for final 2.5 REV or what is the timeline on the code reviews. They would help immensely to get skeptics on board with XC.Fully agree. Code reviews by reputable sources should be a #1 priority right now. Fortunately, I believe it is a #1 priority. You're right, code reviews will definitely bolster XC's reputation. I don't have any dates for you at the moment, and neither can I confirm any reviewers. But the process is most likely to be: - internal consultation and testing - public reviews - bounties - open sourcing code
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October 07, 2014, 04:25:47 PM |
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Arlyn you have sayd yourself Atlas was reviewing it on reddit arrrrghhhhhhhh
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October 07, 2014, 04:26:15 PM |
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Arlyn you have sayd yourself Atlas was reviewing it on reddit arrrrghhhhhhhh
Huh?
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October 07, 2014, 04:27:28 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern. When are the code reviews going to be coming as well, I swear i read earlier this week in the thread that someone said Kristov Atlas would be doing a code review for XC. Are you guys wating for final 2.5 REV or what is the timeline on the code reviews. They would help immensely to get skeptics on board with XC.Fully agree. Code reviews by reputable sources should be a #1 priority right now. Fortunately, I believe it is a #1 priority. You're right, code reviews will definitely bolster XC's reputation. I don't have any dates for you at the moment, and neither can I confirm any reviewers. But the process is most likely to be: - internal consultation and testing - public reviews - bounties - open sourcing code Two things. 1. I think that if REV 3 gets released it should be done in one go, not like REV 2 take 1 week to do so. 2. Please explain to me what Blockchain bloat is.
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October 07, 2014, 04:30:08 PM |
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Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge.
Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern.
2. Please explain to me what Blockchain bloat is. My explanation is embedded in your post. Ha ha.
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October 07, 2014, 04:31:01 PM |
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That's a very different thing to saying that Kristov is going to review XC. ;-)
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October 07, 2014, 04:33:08 PM |
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Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge.
Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern.
2. Please explain to me what Blockchain bloat is. My explanation is embedded in your post. Ha ha. My bad, thanks for explaining it. Yesterday I said something about Multibit, but nobody of the XC team responded to it I am pretty sure. Why not make something similar?
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October 07, 2014, 04:38:04 PM |
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Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge.
Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern.
2. Please explain to me what Blockchain bloat is. My explanation is embedded in your post. Ha ha. My bad, thanks for explaining it. Yesterday I said something about Multibit, but nobody of the XC team responded to it I am pretty sure. Why not make something similar? Maybe. I don't know. Seems to be less secure. And ugly. Best to do a light client that'll preserve security, and even run on dumbphones. That, to me, would make a lot more sense.
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October 07, 2014, 04:41:24 PM |
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Xchat is pretty damn polished already
Perhaps on Windows. Linux and Mac users still do not have any XChat option whatsoever.
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