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October 07, 2014, 04:21:30 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern. When are the code reviews going to be coming as well, I swear i read earlier this week in the thread that someone said Kristov Atlas would be doing a code review for XC. Are you guys wating for final 2.5 REV or what is the timeline on the code reviews. They would help immensely to get skeptics on board with XC.
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synechist
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October 07, 2014, 04:22:06 PM |
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Did you read what I said about making the images .jpg?
It would help the load time a lot.
Yes I did, but you are mistaken :-) At the same (or higher) level of compression, PNG is smaller.
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October 07, 2014, 04:23:24 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern. When are the code reviews going to be coming as well, I swear i read earlier this week in the thread that someone said Kristov Atlas would be doing a code review for XC. Are you guys wating for final 2.5 REV or what is the timeline on the code reviews. They would help immensely to get skeptics on board with XC.Fully agree. Code reviews by reputable sources should be a #1 priority right now. Fortunately, I believe it is a #1 priority.
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cryptico
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October 07, 2014, 04:24:30 PM |
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I swear waiting for XC updates feels like giving birth to a child sometimes ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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synechist
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October 07, 2014, 04:24:39 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern. When are the code reviews going to be coming as well, I swear i read earlier this week in the thread that someone said Kristov Atlas would be doing a code review for XC. Are you guys wating for final 2.5 REV or what is the timeline on the code reviews. They would help immensely to get skeptics on board with XC.Fully agree. Code reviews by reputable sources should be a #1 priority right now. Fortunately, I believe it is a #1 priority. You're right, code reviews will definitely bolster XC's reputation. I don't have any dates for you at the moment, and neither can I confirm any reviewers. But the process is most likely to be: - internal consultation and testing - public reviews - bounties - open sourcing code
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October 07, 2014, 04:25:47 PM |
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Arlyn you have sayd yourself Atlas was reviewing it on reddit arrrrghhhhhhhh
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synechist
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October 07, 2014, 04:26:15 PM |
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Arlyn you have sayd yourself Atlas was reviewing it on reddit arrrrghhhhhhhh
Huh?
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October 07, 2014, 04:27:28 PM |
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To be honest, I think XC is on par as the cryptonote coins(now), later it should be much better. It's exciting watching XC develop. Might be the next, new, and improved NXT.
In my opinion its feature set is a fair way beyond Cryptonote, with less bloat. Cryptonote's anonymity is not flexible, and this is the make-or-break factor when it comes to real-world use cases. That said, XC's testing, reviews, and bounties have not happened yet, and Cryptonote is open source and quite well documented. Can you explain to me what bloat is? Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge. Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern. When are the code reviews going to be coming as well, I swear i read earlier this week in the thread that someone said Kristov Atlas would be doing a code review for XC. Are you guys wating for final 2.5 REV or what is the timeline on the code reviews. They would help immensely to get skeptics on board with XC.Fully agree. Code reviews by reputable sources should be a #1 priority right now. Fortunately, I believe it is a #1 priority. You're right, code reviews will definitely bolster XC's reputation. I don't have any dates for you at the moment, and neither can I confirm any reviewers. But the process is most likely to be: - internal consultation and testing - public reviews - bounties - open sourcing code Two things. 1. I think that if REV 3 gets released it should be done in one go, not like REV 2 take 1 week to do so. 2. Please explain to me what Blockchain bloat is.
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synechist
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October 07, 2014, 04:30:08 PM |
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Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge.
Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern.
2. Please explain to me what Blockchain bloat is. My explanation is embedded in your post. Ha ha.
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October 07, 2014, 04:31:01 PM |
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That's a very different thing to saying that Kristov is going to review XC. ;-)
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October 07, 2014, 04:33:08 PM |
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Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge.
Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern.
2. Please explain to me what Blockchain bloat is. My explanation is embedded in your post. Ha ha. My bad, thanks for explaining it. Yesterday I said something about Multibit, but nobody of the XC team responded to it I am pretty sure. Why not make something similar?
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October 07, 2014, 04:38:04 PM |
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Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge.
Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern.
2. Please explain to me what Blockchain bloat is. My explanation is embedded in your post. Ha ha. My bad, thanks for explaining it. Yesterday I said something about Multibit, but nobody of the XC team responded to it I am pretty sure. Why not make something similar? Maybe. I don't know. Seems to be less secure. And ugly. Best to do a light client that'll preserve security, and even run on dumbphones. That, to me, would make a lot more sense.
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October 07, 2014, 04:41:24 PM |
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Xchat is pretty damn polished already
Perhaps on Windows. Linux and Mac users still do not have any XChat option whatsoever.
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October 07, 2014, 04:43:04 PM |
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Xchat is pretty damn polished already
Perhaps on Windows. Linux and Mac users still do not have any XChat option whatsoever. Agree. What are the other Devs doing can this task be done by some other Dev?? it looks in here that Dan is doing all the work for XC.
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October 07, 2014, 04:43:35 PM |
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Xchat is pretty damn polished already
Perhaps on Windows. Linux and Mac users still do not have any XChat option whatsoever. Apologies for the delay. I hear a Linux version is about done... will confirm whether this is the case as soon as I can.
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October 07, 2014, 04:44:47 PM |
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Every time a transaction is made, a copy of it is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain is stored on every single computer that runs a wallet. If transactions take up a lot of space, or if a coin's technology requires a whole lot of transactions, then the blockchain becomes huge.
Blockchains can't be huge if they're to be stored on a mobile phone. So for real-world usability, a bloat-free blockchain is a central concern.
2. Please explain to me what Blockchain bloat is. My explanation is embedded in your post. Ha ha. My bad, thanks for explaining it. Yesterday I said something about Multibit, but nobody of the XC team responded to it I am pretty sure. Why not make something similar? Maybe. I don't know. Seems to be less secure. And ugly. Best to do a light client that'll preserve security, and even run on dumbphones. That, to me, would make a lot more sense. It doesn't matter that much whether it is ugly or not, it doesn't need to download the whole Blockchain, it is synced in like <5 minutes.
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October 07, 2014, 04:47:04 PM |
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Rev2 was released weeks ago and we still don't have a linux client. when is the ETA for a Rev2 linux client?
It sucks that one has to buy a windows license to use the latest version of XCurrency.
I agree, linux client is coming in the next few days Dan This was one week ago and we still don't have a linux client. What does "the next few days" mean?
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October 07, 2014, 04:57:08 PM |
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Synechist: Regarding your op announcement (So, there's a new OP...):
Under the section "XCHAT MESSAGE PROCESS", step 3), recommend the following change for clarity:
change from: ".....encrypts a packet containing his/her public key and sends to user B."
to: ".....encrypts a packet using user B's public key and sends to user B."
My first impression was that that step 3 implied it was (or could be interrupted as) user A's public key. It's only when you get to step 4 that it becomes clear that it's user B's public key being used to encrypt the packet.
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October 07, 2014, 04:59:03 PM |
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Xnode distributed content delivery, this is where you can add webpages and store information in cloud storage?
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