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March 01, 2021, 08:56:40 PM
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The proof of funds in the donation wallet is posted to the GitHub issue.

I don't know what was meant by opening ring members.
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March 02, 2021, 10:18:53 PM
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The proof of funds in the donation wallet is posted to the GitHub issue.

I don't know what was meant by opening ring members.

Just analyzing the blockchain that is all
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March 11, 2021, 02:21:37 AM
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Just analyzing the blockchain that is all

I view the level of privacy we have (with no ringct and small ring size) as being resistant to overall blockchain analysis, but not necessarily reliable on an individual transaction or output basis. This is a deliberate tradeoff to keep the blockchain light and scalable, keep transaction cheap, and reduce some (unlikely but not impossible) security risks. It is true this means the mostly-public donation wallet could help to further analyze things (though public wallets aid in analysis of Monero too, which has taken a heavier but more private approach).

While not great on its own, the improvements we made over the past few years has hardened things considerably. This includes improving output selection (used to be uniform, which is absolutely terrible), getting rid of ring size <3 then fixing ring size at 3, getting rid of unmixable outputs, and maybe a few others I forgot.

Privacy of individual transactions and outputs (especially older ones made before these improvements) should be treated with skepticism and if you want to be extra careful on your own behalf, you will need to make some extra transfers (also known as churn). The effect of doing so is that all of the transactions in the chain would need to be successfully analyzed to connect the source and destination, which becomes exponentially less likely as the chain gets longer.

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March 12, 2021, 03:23:19 AM
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Just analyzing the blockchain that is all

I view the level of privacy we have (with no ringct and small ring size) as being resistant to overall blockchain analysis, but not necessarily reliable on an individual transaction or output basis. This is a deliberate tradeoff to keep the blockchain light and scalable, keep transaction cheap, and reduce some (unlikely but not impossible) security risks. It is true this means the mostly-public donation wallet could help to further analyze things (though public wallets aid in analysis of Monero too, which has taken a heavier but more private approach).

While not great on its own, the improvements we made over the past few years has hardened things considerably. This includes improving output selection (used to be uniform, which is absolutely terrible), getting rid of ring size <3 then fixing ring size at 3, getting rid of unmixable outputs, and maybe a few others I forgot.

Privacy of individual transactions and outputs (especially older ones made before these improvements) should be treated with skepticism and if you want to be extra careful on your own behalf, you will need to make some extra transfers (also known as churn). The effect of doing so is that all of the transactions in the chain would need to be successfully analyzed to connect the source and destination, which becomes exponentially less likely as the chain gets longer.



I was surprised to see the initial few thousand blocks used ring 100. That’s nuts.
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March 12, 2021, 09:15:50 PM
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I was surprised to see the initial few thousand blocks used ring 100. That’s nuts.

In the early days of cryptonote it was all new and people were just making it up as they went along and doing a lot of experimenting.

It was all pretty ineffective too because ring size 1 was widely used and the effect of chain reactions had not yet been identified and then for a while not fully appreciated.
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March 19, 2021, 03:18:54 AM
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Just analyzing the blockchain that is all

I view the level of privacy we have (with no ringct and small ring size) as being resistant to overall blockchain analysis, but not necessarily reliable on an individual transaction or output basis. This is a deliberate tradeoff to keep the blockchain light and scalable, keep transaction cheap, and reduce some (unlikely but not impossible) security risks. It is true this means the mostly-public donation wallet could help to further analyze things (though public wallets aid in analysis of Monero too, which has taken a heavier but more private approach).

While not great on its own, the improvements we made over the past few years has hardened things considerably. This includes improving output selection (used to be uniform, which is absolutely terrible), getting rid of ring size <3 then fixing ring size at 3, getting rid of unmixable outputs, and maybe a few others I forgot.

Privacy of individual transactions and outputs (especially older ones made before these improvements) should be treated with skepticism and if you want to be extra careful on your own behalf, you will need to make some extra transfers (also known as churn). The effect of doing so is that all of the transactions in the chain would need to be successfully analyzed to connect the source and destination, which becomes exponentially less likely as the chain gets longer.



However, this is enough privacy to hide from your spouse on what you have been doing using cryptocoins. Monero might be for users with more serious concerns like money laundering or keywords I do not want to mention to avoid being in the NSA’s list hehehe. Aeon is for hiding porn subscriptions, small purchases of drugs and sex toys hehehehe.

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March 19, 2021, 05:30:48 PM
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Are you going to merge the website redesign PR?

If the discussion is favorable then its probably fine with me. I don't really block these things without some really good reason. In this case I haven't had a chance to pay much attention to it.



How does AEON scale? BBW reporter already laid heavy sheets of flattery upon it through his narrative and  persistent pretense of being interested in the coin, however people aint willfully agreed to listening to what reporter says, nor to giving him credit for high speeches raving on outstanding progress u guys have made. Give me the realistic report on what has been done or can the reporter guy.
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March 20, 2021, 02:00:28 AM
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@PAMPT. Aeon’s codebase is copied from Monero. I reckon this should be enough to say that Aeon is technically as good as Monero and technically better than many coins in the cryptospace. However, Aeon’s market, adoption and acceptance is one of the worst in the cryptospace.

2016 and 2017 were the years where the community might have found success for this coin if there was more group effort. However, similar to many opensource projects, a small community can only do what it can do.

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March 23, 2021, 03:10:41 AM
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How does AEON scale?

The algos have been updated to help spamming and increase the speed of dynamic block size since v0.14.0.0.

Aeon would need to increase its daily block size and volume by at least 10x to start seeing any coherent issues of scaling and or test this functionality. It's highly unlikely an almost 7 year old project would see this happen unless Monero had a doomsday event. For as long as I've known Aeon, its always been the backup for Monero when that happens.
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April 05, 2021, 04:01:38 AM
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Snooze mode
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Snooze mode

Circulating Supply : 17.82M / 18.4M (96.9%)

https://miningpoolstats.stream/aeon

soon finished except tail emission
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April 15, 2021, 06:24:31 PM
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Snooze mode

Circulating Supply : 17.82M / 18.4M (96.9%)

https://miningpoolstats.stream/aeon

soon finished except tail emission

Pretty sure that’s not accurate. About a million coins over iirc. Still have 3yrs left on initial supply before tail emissions.
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April 21, 2021, 04:34:42 PM
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Snooze mode

Circulating Supply : 17.82M / 18.4M (96.9%)

https://miningpoolstats.stream/aeon

soon finished except tail emission

Pretty sure that’s not accurate. About a million coins over iirc. Still have 3yrs left on initial supply before tail emissions.

aeon situation evolving for the good. Privacy coins are presently searched.

then monerujoAE reappears.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/mvcp9i/update_monerujoae_v203_aeon_wallet_for_android/
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April 22, 2021, 12:57:38 AM
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I was surprised to see the initial few thousand blocks used ring 100. That’s nuts.

In the early days of cryptonote it was all new and people were just making it up as they went along and doing a lot of experimenting.

It was all pretty ineffective too because ring size 1 was widely used and the effect of chain reactions had not yet been identified and then for a while not fully appreciated.

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What are your thoughts on offering up some Aeons from the Dev Fund to cakewallet team for integrating Aeon into their IOS wallet?
Let me know if you want to discuss offline as well. I would be happy to help spearhead the effort. IT appears a good time to do such a task especially with monerujo team updating and releasing Aeon android app.
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I was surprised to see the initial few thousand blocks used ring 100. That’s nuts.

In the early days of cryptonote it was all new and people were just making it up as they went along and doing a lot of experimenting.

It was all pretty ineffective too because ring size 1 was widely used and the effect of chain reactions had not yet been identified and then for a while not fully appreciated.

Smooth,
What are your thoughts on offering up some Aeons from the Dev Fund to cakewallet team for integrating Aeon into their IOS wallet?
Let me know if you want to discuss offline as well. I would be happy to help spearhead the effort. IT appears a good time to do such a task especially with monerujo team updating and releasing Aeon android app.

Sounds fine as long as the cost isn't too high. I would not think it should be since the code is so similar to Monero.

You can DM me on twitter or reddit or here if you want to discuss privately. I can't access IRC at the moment.
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April 24, 2021, 05:38:20 AM
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https://bitinfocharts.com/aeon/
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May 06, 2021, 01:35:33 AM
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Sounds fine as long as the cost isn't too high. I would not think it should be since the code is so similar to Monero.

You can DM me on twitter or reddit or here if you want to discuss privately. I can't access IRC at the moment.

DM you on twitter no response last week. I did chat with Vik regarding it and he said he is speaking with his team on the matter.
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May 06, 2021, 11:34:55 PM
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DM you on twitter no response last week. I did chat with Vik regarding it and he said he is speaking with his team on the matter.

Replied by DM here
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May 20, 2021, 01:17:10 PM
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Hello I am working on updating the GUI to the latest monero version. There are a few pull requests that need review. Could we release a new version 0.14.2.0 with these updates along with GUI updated?

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/83554828/118907862-edb4c200-b8e5-11eb-8e17-55e464f1e3cf.png

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May 21, 2021, 01:57:01 AM
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Hello I am working on updating the GUI to the latest monero version. There are a few pull requests that need review. Could we release a new version 0.14.2.0 with these updates along with GUI updated?





Hey I saw your commits today but did not review any. Are there additional commits you were looking for on the GUI before recommending a new version release?
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