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July 07, 2014, 04:05:14 AM
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Unable to register myself in nem forum. Kept showing error. Login from my mobile.

What did the error say?

Does it work if you register from a computer?

It only says error. You have no access to this page. Tried multiple times. I cant access this site from my office pc. I will try again afterwards.

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July 07, 2014, 04:05:22 AM
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interesting blog post about proof of stake written by vitalik buterin

https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/07/05/stake/

@devs, is nem the solution to the issues brought up in this article? Wink

I also saw the reddit thread.  

I'm not sure why Vitalik Buterin has such a wide cult following, even being more famous than a real Bitcoin developer like Gavin Andresen or even an alternate developer like Charlie Lee.  

Vitalik's fame was some obscure magazine which was only actively read by hundreds.  It seems probable that an old theory is correct - Goldman Sachs needed a "hip young mascot"  ("to appeal to the young Facebook masses") for their crypto currency, so they went with Vitalik.


Goldman Sachs ...  umph ... I would think very carefully about participating something, which is touched by GS. And would reject even from the principal basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%9308
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_15/b4173030234603.htm



They have former Goldman Sachs.  Which you might otherwise excuse, saying someone's past shouldn't matter, but at the same time there's only so many people in the world who have worked for GS (we're talking tens of thousands in a planet with billions of people).  It's not a coincidence that one would show up in coin which appears to have huge funding.  There's plenty of developers and organizers without that sort of background.

That's not the reason why I dislike Ethereum.  To me Ethereum is a copywrighting coin like Mastercoin and Maidsafe.  Worse yet, they seem to be a copywrighting equivalent to Ripple.

  They spam YouTube with these awful rhetorical rambles about politics and bankings which last over a hour and only get a few hundred views.  They pump out equally boring articles which nobody reads.  They have all these developers and people who don't work for free..  so where are these guys going to get their compensation?

IIRC - Ethereum (before it got in trouble with the Ontario & Canadian Government) admitted it wanted a $30 million IPO.  I'm sure that money would be put to great use.  Vitalik already vacations around the world but I guess he needs a Tesla automobile and a mansion in Thunderbay (or whatever constitutes a nice area of Ontario).

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/107/why-30-million-why-so-inflationary
(or, alternatively, just google "Ethereum 30,000 BTC" without the quotations)

It makes you wonder the point of even investing into Ethereum if it's a grand version of Mastercoin.  I put in $1000?  Ok that gives me 0.000033% of Ethereum...   making it $10,000 to get 0.0003% makes no quantifiable difference for what is an extreme high risk investment (the people who invested into Mastercoin and Maidsafe know this.  They would had made more money off Doge, NxT, Darkcoin, et al).  Ponzi schemes ran by wealthy investors and greedy developers is just exactly what we all want *sarcasm*

Then there are the technical issues.  I'm not a programming but I can say this: programming languages like Java, C++, et cetera, weren't born overnight and took as long as a decade or more to work out the kinks.  I doubt Vitalik was busy programming his revolutionary new language when he was twelve.  Not only will it take time for Ethereum language to be completed but there's also an education issue in that Ethereum language developers currently don't exist and they'll have to spend years to master the language and then pump out the code. 

Ethereum, if you noticed, has exiled itself from Bitcointalk after it couldn't take any criticism.  They've also banned and deleted many users from their own forums.

Stay classy Goldman Sachs


We should not just see the negative side of things. Vitalik's claim to fame was because he put a face to his name. He sold himself well. We shouldn't discredit that as each entity has its own objectives and motive for doing so. That's marketing 101. If he did not do that, would we be talking about him here?

Whether they can deliver ethereum is another matter. And to be honest, even with such exposure, they haven't even reach mainstream yet. I can say that it is not that easy to market a crypto these days, what with thousands of them being rolled out. Without a war chest of money, it is going to be difficult.  Such is the evil of reality in which we live in.


Come the day, when NEM will have to do the same. No matter how great it is, it will not gain mainstream traction if we do not have deep pockets.

Bitcoin is five years old and it is only being used by a little over 2 million account holders (note, Account holders not necessary unique persons). About a couple of hundred million have been thrown into the project by investors all over and is moving at an extremely slow pace.

Unlike all Internet/mobile fast paced initiatives of the 21st, century, cryptos as a project which hold so much promise is moving at a snail's pace. Perhaps, it is important to ponder why.

Should we discuss this further in the nem forum? I have set up a link for that here : http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2278.0

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July 07, 2014, 05:31:31 AM
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The recasting feature of NTX coin seems very interesting. NTX is a Chinese branch of NXT.

RECASTING Feature: Prevents the inflation of the block chains and makes the anonymity of the coin untraceable.  Recycle some lost forever coins after a few                     rounds of recasting.

Will NEM include such features? If not, is it possible to add RECASTING feature to NEM?
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July 07, 2014, 06:23:07 AM
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The recasting feature of NTX coin seems very interesting. NTX is a Chinese branch of NXT.

RECASTING Feature: Prevents the inflation of the block chains and makes the anonymity of the coin untraceable.  Recycle some lost forever coins after a few                     rounds of recasting.

Will NEM include such features? If not, is it possible to add RECASTING feature to NEM?

I think it is a good feature which will definitely benefit NEM. Devs should consider to add this feature to NEM.
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July 07, 2014, 08:08:46 AM
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The recasting feature of NTX coin seems very interesting. NTX is a Chinese branch of NXT.

RECASTING Feature: Prevents the inflation of the block chains and makes the anonymity of the coin untraceable.  Recycle some lost forever coins after a few                     rounds of recasting.

Will NEM include such features? If not, is it possible to add RECASTING feature to NEM?

I think it is a good feature which will definitely benefit NEM. Devs should consider to add this feature to NEM.

from irc:

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00:13 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: can't tell, english paper sound like auto-translation and doesn't make much sense
00:19 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: I'm wondering how they want to ensure anonymity, there's almost nothing about that
...
00:27 < Hap_> Anonymity is a fad.  Darkcoin isn't going up from use but rather people speculating on the preceived 'value' of
              anonymity.  I don't think the logic is particularly sound.  Almost nobody uses TOR or other anonymity measures.
              It's a very niche thing.
00:28 < Hap_> Great for pedophiles and drug dealers but that isn't the current crypto user or future user.
00:29 < Hap_> Nor is it proprietary.  If anonymity proves to be that important then everyone, even Doge, will rip it.
00:29 < Hap_> It's an one trick pony when coins specialize in anonymity.

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July 07, 2014, 08:57:13 AM
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Can people still buy NEM at the AE of NXT or not?

I'm confused after the scam.
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July 07, 2014, 09:01:05 AM
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Can people still buy NEM at the AE of NXT or not?

I'm confused after the scam.

Yes. There is absolutely no reason not to buy them. There is actually good reason to buy them since they are so cheap now than NXT price is lower as well Smiley

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July 07, 2014, 09:11:25 AM
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The recasting feature of NTX coin seems very interesting. NTX is a Chinese branch of NXT.

RECASTING Feature: Prevents the inflation of the block chains and makes the anonymity of the coin untraceable.  Recycle some lost forever coins after a few                     rounds of recasting.

Will NEM include such features? If not, is it possible to add RECASTING feature to NEM?

I think it is a good feature which will definitely benefit NEM. Devs should consider to add this feature to NEM.

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00:13 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: can't tell, english paper sound like auto-translation and doesn't make much sense
00:19 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: I'm wondering how they want to ensure anonymity, there's almost nothing about that
...
00:27 < Hap_> Anonymity is a fad.  Darkcoin isn't going up from use but rather people speculating on the preceived 'value' of
              anonymity.  I don't think the logic is particularly sound.  Almost nobody uses TOR or other anonymity measures.
              It's a very niche thing.
00:28 < Hap_> Great for pedophiles and drug dealers but that isn't the current crypto user or future user.
00:29 < Hap_> Nor is it proprietary.  If anonymity proves to be that important then everyone, even Doge, will rip it.
00:29 < Hap_> It's an one trick pony when coins specialize in anonymity.


Yes, I agree. Anonymity is for criminals and pedophiles of all kinds!

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July 07, 2014, 09:20:36 AM
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The recasting feature of NTX coin seems very interesting. NTX is a Chinese branch of NXT.

RECASTING Feature: Prevents the inflation of the block chains and makes the anonymity of the coin untraceable.  Recycle some lost forever coins after a few                     rounds of recasting.

Will NEM include such features? If not, is it possible to add RECASTING feature to NEM?

I think it is a good feature which will definitely benefit NEM. Devs should consider to add this feature to NEM.

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00:13 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: can't tell, english paper sound like auto-translation and doesn't make much sense
00:19 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: I'm wondering how they want to ensure anonymity, there's almost nothing about that
...
00:27 < Hap_> Anonymity is a fad.  Darkcoin isn't going up from use but rather people speculating on the preceived 'value' of
              anonymity.  I don't think the logic is particularly sound.  Almost nobody uses TOR or other anonymity measures.
              It's a very niche thing.
00:28 < Hap_> Great for pedophiles and drug dealers but that isn't the current crypto user or future user.
00:29 < Hap_> Nor is it proprietary.  If anonymity proves to be that important then everyone, even Doge, will rip it.
00:29 < Hap_> It's an one trick pony when coins specialize in anonymity.


Yes, I agree. Anonymity is for criminals and pedophiles of all kinds!

Right. It's not like people have to stay anonymous because they live in a country where free speech would otherwise be impossible.
Nothing like that on this wonderfull earth Roll Eyes

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July 07, 2014, 09:27:22 AM
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Anonymity is a great feature but it is unbelievable risky. Is this coin goes mainstream, then a lot of people, journalists and governments will have an eye to. That could be a big threat to NEM.

We have nothing to hide, and we want a coin for everyone. Please don´t push this forward just because the anoncoins are hyped at the moment.

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July 07, 2014, 10:00:31 AM
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Anonymity is a great feature but it is unbelievable risky. Is this coin goes mainstream, then a lot of people, journalists and governments will have an eye to. That could be a big threat to NEM.

We have nothing to hide, and we want a coin for everyone. Please don´t push this forward just because the anoncoins are hyped at the moment.

An important way to get mainstream approval is to be indifferent about anonymity. What is most important now is to make NEM, easy to use and easily accessible by all.

It should not be complicated and should be easily picked up by one who only knows how to use the computer to read and write emails.

The wallet being "web-based" is a good start.

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July 07, 2014, 10:48:45 AM
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I would love to have a sneak peak at coinmarketcap in say  Huh 5 years or so  Cheesy

Here you go:

1. NEM
2. Nxt
3. BTC

 Wink

Love it.....lol....

It's not the ranking that interests me the most, rather the capitalisation  Wink
I guess cryptocoins should be mainstream in 5 years, so capitalisation will increase incredibly.

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July 07, 2014, 12:49:55 PM
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The recasting feature of NTX coin seems very interesting. NTX is a Chinese branch of NXT.

RECASTING Feature: Prevents the inflation of the block chains and makes the anonymity of the coin untraceable.  Recycle some lost forever coins after a few                     rounds of recasting.

Will NEM include such features? If not, is it possible to add RECASTING feature to NEM?

I think it is a good feature which will definitely benefit NEM. Devs should consider to add this feature to NEM.

from irc:

Quote
00:13 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: can't tell, english paper sound like auto-translation and doesn't make much sense
00:19 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: I'm wondering how they want to ensure anonymity, there's almost nothing about that
...
00:27 < Hap_> Anonymity is a fad.  Darkcoin isn't going up from use but rather people speculating on the preceived 'value' of
              anonymity.  I don't think the logic is particularly sound.  Almost nobody uses TOR or other anonymity measures.
              It's a very niche thing.
00:28 < Hap_> Great for pedophiles and drug dealers but that isn't the current crypto user or future user.
00:29 < Hap_> Nor is it proprietary.  If anonymity proves to be that important then everyone, even Doge, will rip it.
00:29 < Hap_> It's an one trick pony when coins specialize in anonymity.


Yes, I agree. Anonymity is for criminals and pedophiles of all kinds!

Criminals do not need crypto anonymity, they have BoA, HSBC, GS and others to deal with that. Is not like there were no criminals until bitcoin arrived!! i.e. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-02/hsbc-judge-approves-1-9b-drug-money-laundering-accord.html



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July 07, 2014, 01:02:10 PM
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The recasting feature of NTX coin seems very interesting. NTX is a Chinese branch of NXT.

RECASTING Feature: Prevents the inflation of the block chains and makes the anonymity of the coin untraceable.  Recycle some lost forever coins after a few                     rounds of recasting.

Will NEM include such features? If not, is it possible to add RECASTING feature to NEM?

I think it is a good feature which will definitely benefit NEM. Devs should consider to add this feature to NEM.

from irc:

Quote
00:13 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: can't tell, english paper sound like auto-translation and doesn't make much sense
00:19 <@gimre> TruthTaco_: I'm wondering how they want to ensure anonymity, there's almost nothing about that
...
00:27 < Hap_> Anonymity is a fad.  Darkcoin isn't going up from use but rather people speculating on the preceived 'value' of
              anonymity.  I don't think the logic is particularly sound.  Almost nobody uses TOR or other anonymity measures.
              It's a very niche thing.
00:28 < Hap_> Great for pedophiles and drug dealers but that isn't the current crypto user or future user.
00:29 < Hap_> Nor is it proprietary.  If anonymity proves to be that important then everyone, even Doge, will rip it.
00:29 < Hap_> It's an one trick pony when coins specialize in anonymity.  ---? agree witth his


Yes, I agree. Anonymity is for criminals and pedophiles of all kinds! ---> hugely biased point of view.

Criminals do not need crypto anonymity, they have BoA, HSBC, GS and others to deal with that. Is not like there were no criminals until bitcoin arrived!! i.e. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-02/hsbc-judge-approves-1-9b-drug-money-laundering-accord.html


+1 on this but we could just relax and wait until the coin is out first. The anonymity discussion is unnecessary at this point.  I think NEM is positioned to be a multi-service 2.0 gen. crypto so an anonymity service could be built on top of the blockchain and that would be a more flexible approach.

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July 07, 2014, 01:17:03 PM
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I don't see a need to rush an anon function. As others have said it's especially hyped right now. Also, it's not even being done right. There are like five different approaches and many are proving to cause a lot of friction and bloat and not actually even be really anonymous.

Right now everything is an experiment in anon. NEM is already doing a very neat experiment in PoI and distribution.

In the future lots of PoI coins will have added anon. At that time NEM can add the feature "IF" the community wants it and it is being perceived as useful.

I use to think like others that anon is for serious criminals and in many ways it is. But I think in the future it's going to be for everyone.

Why? Imagine a day when insurance companies are aligned with credit card companies, they see not only which fast food testuarants you eat at but if you double size or not, and charge you extra if you do.

Imagine a day when a giant search engine/shopping portal tracks your every purchase building algorithms knowing what time of day you buy things and if your a more careful shopper in the morning or night, it also looks to see which genres of products you spend more time researching and comparing prices about, and then based on its algorithm will raise or lower prices against you manipulating you to get more money for them.

Wait!!!! Things like this are already happening and worse just around the corner. In a digital age people are mapping us to manipulate us. Some anon money will help us take the power back.

Again, I'm in no rush. Nobody is even doing anon correctly yet. Let's wait and see what happens with the whole scene and then later on reevaluate. It'll be much easier and give a better product in the long run.

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Forget the advanced features at this moment. Make a simple and solid one and make the consensus mechanism work very well first.
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July 07, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
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Can people still buy NEM at the AE of NXT or not?

I'm confused after the scam.

NEM is overvalued right now due to all the hype. Let the prices drop a little more. There is NO REASON for this coin to be around 400 satoshi before it is even public. Consider even waiting for the release, there could be a big dump/dip just after the release of the stakes and then we could get on for some more profit.

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July 07, 2014, 03:11:33 PM
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Can people still buy NEM at the AE of NXT or not?

I'm confused after the scam.

NEM is overvalued right now due to all the hype. Let the prices drop a little more. There is NO REASON for this coin to be around 400 satoshi before it is even public. Consider even waiting for the release, there could be a big dump/dip just after the release of the stakes and then we could get on for some more profit.

thanks for your deep technical analysis  Roll Eyes

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July 07, 2014, 03:12:43 PM
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Can people still buy NEM at the AE of NXT or not?

I'm confused after the scam.

NEM is overvalued right now due to all the hype. Let the prices drop a little more. There is NO REASON for this coin to be around 400 satoshi before it is even public. Consider even waiting for the release, there could be a big dump/dip just after the release of the stakes and then we could get on for some more profit.

thanks for your deep technical analysis  Roll Eyes

You are quite welcome!  Grin See you on the moon.

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July 07, 2014, 03:25:54 PM
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Can people still buy NEM at the AE of NXT or not?

I'm confused after the scam.

NEM is overvalued right now due to all the hype. Let the prices drop a little more. There is NO REASON for this coin to be around 400 satoshi before it is even public. Consider even waiting for the release, there could be a big dump/dip just after the release of the stakes and then we could get on for some more profit.

thanks for your deep technical analysis  Roll Eyes

You are quite welcome!  Grin See you on the moon.

sounds to me like someone is still trying to get in. Wink

im willing to place a bet with you that the price of 1 stake doesnt fall bellow 20k between now and launch?

odds are 2:1 to my favor as it is only 2 thousand away from 20k. so i put up one nem stake you put two? if it falls below 20k nxt at any stage between now and launch. you win. if not i win. escrow releases funds to winner. thats a good bet if you are so sure that nem is overvalued due to hype.

NEM pre-launch are for connoisseurs  Grin Cool

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