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February 01, 2016, 08:12:45 AM
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50K XEM payment to register a namespace.
Why so expensive? And who is getting the 50K??

At 130sats/XEM I can register ~15namespaces for 1BTC



to combat squatters.

will the 50k be reduced if/when XEM doubles in value?
what is the duration of the registration? the lifetime of the network?

I'm guessing all fees will have to be adapted if the XEM price were to explode.
You have to renew every year. I'm not sure if renewal costs as much though.

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February 01, 2016, 08:44:06 AM
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50K XEM payment to register a namespace.
Why so expensive? And who is getting the 50K??

At 130sats/XEM I can register ~15namespaces for 1BTC



to combat squatters.

will the 50k be reduced if/when XEM doubles in value?
what is the duration of the registration? the lifetime of the network?

I'm guessing all fees will have to be adapted if the XEM price were to explode.
You have to renew every year. I'm not sure if renewal costs as much though.

50K for a 1 year registration.

So who gets the 50K? (the miners/stakers?)
And is the NEM namespace system censor-resistant? (e.g. can domains be blacklisted or revoked?)

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February 01, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
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And is the NEM namespace system censor-resistant? (e.g. can domains be blacklisted or revoked?)

Sorry dude, someone already registered:
porn : http://chain.nem.ninja/#/namespace/696f5f3f13f6eecaeeb1989504659a2d7f9c6ba03f2c19660e45ad644c491863
and
sex : http://chain.nem.ninja/#/namespace/57071aad93ca125dc231dc02c07ad8610cd243d35068f9b36a7d231383907569

(no no way to blacklist / revoke - and no such system is planned)


P.S. if you're saying that you can register 15 domains with 1 btc,
there's already something wrong with that kind of thinking, that's exactly why NS rental fee is high.

You should register your root, and then evereything else, down below it.

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February 01, 2016, 09:22:28 AM
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Folks,
I just got phone call from friend of mine whom I helped to participating in Xem.
She said there is 0 balance on her address submitted succesfully for NEM redemption phase March last year. I remeber that everything went ok - she received 2250000NEM's - that was last May/June when I checked her address and said her: all ok, you got your stake.
Today, after conversation I went to XEMblockchain and saw 0 balance and no trace of initial stake transaction from...

Anyone to explain this fact?

It's quite personal as her initial address was generated on my computer... Smiley

At least post the public address so we can see.

this is her address NBSNX4-UYEXVZ-JUKM6N-BSDVTB-A2TDWW-HIOCFJ-2S6J   

strange as it shows 0 and no trace of initial 2250000 income - anyone can help?

The above address is not in the nemesis block, so how could you confirm she got her xem? I guess you confirmed on a different address...

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NEM: NALICE-LGU3IV-Y4DPJK-HYLSSV-YFFWYS-5QPLYE-ZDJJ
NXT: 11095639652683007953
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February 01, 2016, 09:24:05 AM
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And is the NEM namespace system censor-resistant? (e.g. can domains be blacklisted or revoked?)

Sorry dude, someone already registered:
porn : http://chain.nem.ninja/#/namespace/696f5f3f13f6eecaeeb1989504659a2d7f9c6ba03f2c19660e45ad644c491863
and
sex : http://chain.nem.ninja/#/namespace/57071aad93ca125dc231dc02c07ad8610cd243d35068f9b36a7d231383907569

(no no way to blacklist / revoke - and no such system is planned)


P.S. if you're saying that you can register 15 domains with 1 btc,
there's already something wrong with that kind of thinking, that's exactly why NS rental fee is high.

You should register your root, and then evereything else, down below it.

Will also be a lot cheaper since sub-namespaces are cheaper.

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February 01, 2016, 09:29:12 AM
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You should register your root, and then evereything else, down below it.

Will also be a lot cheaper since sub-namespaces are cheaper.

and you have to renew single one, not 15

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February 01, 2016, 09:35:58 AM
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there's already something wrong with that kind of thinking

already? Smiley

And who gets the 50k?

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February 01, 2016, 09:42:29 AM
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there's already something wrong with that kind of thinking

already? Smiley

And who gets the 50k?

those additional fees are collected in the namespace and mosaics sink accounts:

http://alice4.nem.ninja:7890/account/get?address=NAMESPACEWH4MKFMBCVFERDPOOP4FK7MTBXDPZZA
http://alice4.nem.ninja:7890/account/get?address=NBMOSAICOD4F54EE5CDMR23CCBGOAM2XSIUX6TRS

No decision yet what to do with the XEM.

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NEM: NALICE-LGU3IV-Y4DPJK-HYLSSV-YFFWYS-5QPLYE-ZDJJ
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February 01, 2016, 10:03:31 AM
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should we be able to create a new namespace now since it's pass block 440k?

my buttons are still unable to create one on 0.6.72

Edit: updated to 0.6.73 but buttons still inactive, Im on a MAC....
same here, 0.6.73, win 7

Namespace

There is a known bug in the lightwallet where it has the testnet namespace address in the lightwallet file instead of the main chain namespace address.  It was an honest mistake and we apologize for this mistake that carried over from testing it on the testnet.  A newest release is being prepared.  The main chain namespace is  NAMESP-ACEWH4-MKFMBC-VFERDP-OOP4FK-7MTBXD-PZZA; you can tell because it starts with a N instead of a T.  

So if you are running your own NIS and connecting locally to lightwallet via http://127.0.0.1:7777/ then go to package -> nis -> lightwallet -> contollers -> txNamespace.js and change the addresses and save and refresh.  


Mosaic

For those that also want to make a mosaic.  You will need to follow the same process, but the address is NBMOSA-ICOD4F-54EE5C-DMR23C-CBGOAM-2XSIUX-6TRS.  It is very important to use the different address for mosaics to make sure your transaction happens correctly.  

So again if you are running your own NIS and connecting locally to lightwallet via http://127.0.0.1:7777/ then go to package -> nis -> lightwallet -> contollers -> txMosaic.js and change the addresses and save and refresh.  



There was a known bug in lightwallet versions 1.2 or earlier with the namespace and mosaic sink addresses when creating a namespace or mosaic.

If you would like to make a namespace or mosaic, the newest version of lightwallet (1.4 or higher) has been tested and works well.  It can be downloaded at http://bob.nem.ninja/ and the password is "nem".

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February 01, 2016, 10:10:58 AM
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there's already something wrong with that kind of thinking

already? Smiley

And who gets the 50k?

those additional fees are collected in the namespace and mosaics sink accounts:

http://alice4.nem.ninja:7890/account/get?address=NAMESPACEWH4MKFMBCVFERDPOOP4FK7MTBXDPZZA
http://alice4.nem.ninja:7890/account/get?address=NBMOSAICOD4F54EE5CDMR23CCBGOAM2XSIUX6TRS

No decision yet what to do with the XEM.

Thanks for the reply.

I had assumed it would automatically go towards the nodes securing the network.

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February 01, 2016, 11:33:24 AM
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my wallet start and stop

where i can downloaded walleT?
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February 01, 2016, 01:05:43 PM
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@jelin1984: using ncc or light wallet?

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February 01, 2016, 01:19:56 PM
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You mean ncc file?
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February 01, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
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@jelin1984: if you are using ncc and it is not starting properly, delete the file c:\users\<youruser>\nem\ncc\accounts_cache_mainnet.json.

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NEM: NALICE-LGU3IV-Y4DPJK-HYLSSV-YFFWYS-5QPLYE-ZDJJ
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February 01, 2016, 03:57:42 PM
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So again if you are running your own NIS and connecting locally to lightwallet via http://127.0.0.1:7777/ then go to package -> nis -> lightwallet -> contollers -> txMosaic.js and change the addresses and save and refresh.  [/s]


There was a known bug in lightwallet versions 1.2 or earlier with the namespace and mosaic sink addresses when creating a namespace or mosaic.

If you would like to make a namespace or mosaic, the newest version of lightwallet (1.4 or higher) has been tested and works well.  It can be downloaded at http://bob.nem.ninja/ and the password is "nem".

so you can only create mosaics in the lightwallet not NCC at the moment?

just to clarify, if Im running NIS/NCC I can also open the lightwallet via http://127.0.0.1:7777/ concurrently and create mosaics through the lightwallet?

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February 01, 2016, 04:40:56 PM
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So again if you are running your own NIS and connecting locally to lightwallet via http://127.0.0.1:7777/ then go to package -> nis -> lightwallet -> contollers -> txMosaic.js and change the addresses and save and refresh.  [/s]


There was a known bug in lightwallet versions 1.2 or earlier with the namespace and mosaic sink addresses when creating a namespace or mosaic.

If you would like to make a namespace or mosaic, the newest version of lightwallet (1.4 or higher) has been tested and works well.  It can be downloaded at http://bob.nem.ninja/ and the password is "nem".

so you can only create mosaics in the lightwallet not NCC at the moment?

just to clarify, if Im running NIS/NCC I can also open the lightwallet via http://127.0.0.1:7777/ concurrently and create mosaics through the lightwallet?

Yes to both.
You don't need to have NCC running to use the lightwallet.
Also you can use the standalone lightwallet.

To everyone using the lightwallet: Read up on local storage ! It'll avoid some confusion. There a brief explanation in the lightwallet as well.

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February 02, 2016, 06:40:27 AM
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Looking at the growing list of the first registered namespaces i imagine where this gonna go...and its amazing: http://chain.nem.ninja/#/browse/

seems now we are in the first round..:pure registration of catchy namespaces, which gives sense to the structure of the blockchain. now imagine in a second step it will be possible to combine all this namespaces (which are also mosaics) together - to create the big picture. what will happen? it will build a natural order on top of the blogchain, which sorts all kind of content. especially when its possible to mount your namespace as a subdomain on sombodys allready sucessfull namespace...like crypto->btc->sell

Still there are a lot of important namespaces free, which are needed for a complex trading structure. I thinkthe early birds will have a impressive payout later. amazing job from the devs. Seems like we have the `worldcomputer´, Ethereum is just talking about...  Shocked

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February 02, 2016, 08:37:35 AM
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How I can do that name
Any details?
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February 02, 2016, 08:56:51 AM
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How I can do that name
Any details?

Use the lightwallet and import your account details where your funds are..click on provision namespace transaction. choose namespace. done.

clean your browser cache.
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February 02, 2016, 10:07:22 AM
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Looking at the growing list of the first registered namespaces i imagine where this gonna go...and its amazing: http://chain.nem.ninja/#/browse/

seems now we are in the first round..:pure registration of catchy namespaces, which gives sense to the structure of the blockchain. now imagine in a second step it will be possible to combine all this namespaces (which are also mosaics) together - to create the big picture. what will happen? it will build a natural order on top of the blogchain, which sorts all kind of content. especially when its possible to mount your namespace as a subdomain on sombodys allready sucessfull namespace...like crypto->btc->sell

Still there are a lot of important namespaces free, which are needed for a complex trading structure. I thinkthe early birds will have a impressive payout later. amazing job from the devs. Seems like we have the `worldcomputer´, Ethereum is just talking about...  Shocked


It's also funny that, if im right, a namespace costs 50k XEM, and people are buying like idiots Cheesy

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