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[3x2]

People were allowed to have 2 stakes and if someone have 20stakes he should be kicked out, its simple as that.

That restriction was lifted, I checked before buying multiple stakes on Nxt AE.

i am not talking about AE, it was before that when NEM first launched. No one was allowed to claim NEM stake from more than 2 BTT accounts.

Incorrect.
When I registered it was allowed to claim stakes for family and friends.

so it was allowed to claim stake for mother,brother,sister,grandma,dogs,cats etc ? as far i know it was allowed to have just two stakes, can someone from Devs confirm this?

[Simakki]

I'm sorry but what would that have looked like ?

"Hello all you sockpuppets. Shall we kick sockpuppet?"
"Yes, please kick us all"

Also the sockmasters were getting lazier during the 2nd round and we needed them to be unaware so they wouldn't start to cover their tracks when redeeming.

This! Please, at least TRY to understand this.

The socks HAD TO think the stakeholder list was final, otherwise they would have been really careful with further steps.

So all discussions about another investigations were pointless. The community was taken for another ride as with the logo voting.

if it was announced there would be another sock removal, it would not have worked, and the 200+ sock master and the other sock masters would have gotten through and dumped the shit out of the market and crushed you investment... and you are not happy he was removed?

No i am not happy cause i am not able to take any following community voting serious.

if you were given the choice to 1) stick with the and allow one sock master that controls 200+ stakes, and another that controls 7x stakes or would you 2) go against the vote and remove these monster sock masters? thats a fuck ton of stakes that could manipulate the market can cause all sort of havoc for years.. is it really worth sticking to a vote to risk something like that?

do we know the new list is legit?

i have full confidence that the list is legit.. why on earth would the devs punish genuine stake holders after such an epic amount of work has gone into nem? that would pure madness...

The list aint even that long, probably they have not even caught all of the potential sockpuppets.

With all this FUD and BUZZ, i expect that launch must be around a courner!

[vytasz7]

I'll go a ahead and say that the biggest found cluster consisted of over 200 accounts.
Now imagine someone comes to you with plausible data that indicate such clusters ? What would you have done ?
I'm pretty sure noone would have said "Well we said we wouldn't do another investigation. So no, let em have it".

Regarding the question of whom to contact - Just contact me. Prefferably only with questions but sure if you need to blow of some steam go ahead. 

  if he really has 200 stakes he  should be kicked for sure

[msin]

People were allowed to have 2 stakes and if someone have 20stakes he should be kicked out, its simple as that.

That restriction was lifted, I checked before buying multiple stakes on Nxt AE.

i am not talking about AE, it was before that when NEM first launched. No one was allowed to claim NEM stake from more than 2 BTT accounts.

Incorrect.
When I registered it was allowed to claim stakes for family and friends.

so it was allowed to claim stake for mother,brother,sister,grandma,dogs,cats etc ? as far i know it was allowed to have just two stakes, can someone from Devs confirm this?

no.. one stake for yourself. and one for a family member. total 2 stakes max. that was always the rules.

Oh got it, if someone is "claiming" multiple stakes for a friend, that's BS.

[Fatih87SK]

People were allowed to have 2 stakes and if someone have 20stakes he should be kicked out, its simple as that.

That restriction was lifted, I checked before buying multiple stakes on Nxt AE.

i am not talking about AE, it was before that when NEM first launched. No one was allowed to claim NEM stake from more than 2 BTT accounts.

Incorrect.
When I registered it was allowed to claim stakes for family and friends.

so it was allowed to claim stake for mother,brother,sister,grandma,dogs,cats etc ? as far i know it was allowed to have just two stakes, can someone from Devs confirm this?

no.. one stake for yourself. and one for a family member. total 2 stakes max. that was always the rules.

Oh got it, if someone is "claiming" multiple stakes for a friend, that's BS.

I'm helping them to claim it. They are non techies.

I'm glad I used their PC's so I can probably prove that they are not puppets.
IF they are on the list ofcourse. Very curious. 

[Wesiematic]

I'll go a ahead and say that the biggest found cluster consisted of over 200 accounts.
Now imagine someone comes to you with plausible data that indicate such clusters ? What would you have done ?
I'm pretty sure noone would have said "Well we said we wouldn't do another investigation. So no, let em have it".

Regarding the question of whom to contact - Just contact me. Prefferably only with questions but sure if you need to blow of some steam go ahead.  

  if he really has 200 stakes he  should be kicked for sure

200 stakes really... come on, such suspicious conglomerations of stakes can destroy a project (i mean BTT registrations and not in the NXT-AE accumulated).

[mrvegad]

People were allowed to have 2 stakes and if someone have 20stakes he should be kicked out, its simple as that.

That restriction was lifted, I checked before buying multiple stakes on Nxt AE.

i am not talking about AE, it was before that when NEM first launched. No one was allowed to claim NEM stake from more than 2 BTT accounts.

Incorrect.
When I registered it was allowed to claim stakes for family and friends.

so it was allowed to claim stake for mother,brother,sister,grandma,dogs,cats etc ? as far i know it was allowed to have just two stakes, can someone from Devs confirm this?

no.. one stake for yourself. and one for a family member. total 2 stakes max. that was always the rules.

https://forum.nemcoin.com/general-discussion/quick-question-about-nemstake/msg7592/#msg7592

Quote from kodtycoon:
"Wrong.. There was a 2.0 limit but that has been scrapped.. There is no cap now. You can redeem 20+ now if you have em"

[mladen00]

I can't believe this type of action. I invested in NEM over a year ago, because I got really interested about the ideas of how to improve the fairness in finance. I have been checking all the time how things are rolling, but not been active posting. Just here for the interest for a great project and with just one account and stake. Actually I registered to BTT just for NEM. I think that many accounts are registered during that time because of the end of 2013 bitcoin boom.

And now I find my address on the sockpuppet list about to get kicked out. This just makes me speechless. I have praised this project to all my friends and people I've met that are interested in technology. And now this. You should really reconsider how you wan't to conduct these kind of processes.

 

As I told you via pm - Every single person that was marked as sock will get the chance to make their case during the extended redemption period. People have hade their case during the first round as well and some of them got back.

+1

everybody knows the rules

[patmast3r]

People were allowed to have 2 stakes and if someone have 20stakes he should be kicked out, its simple as that.

That restriction was lifted, I checked before buying multiple stakes on Nxt AE.

i am not talking about AE, it was before that when NEM first launched. No one was allowed to claim NEM stake from more than 2 BTT accounts.

Incorrect.
When I registered it was allowed to claim stakes for family and friends.

so it was allowed to claim stake for mother,brother,sister,grandma,dogs,cats etc ? as far i know it was allowed to have just two stakes, can someone from Devs confirm this?

2 stakes per btt account. No 1 stake for each family member.

[patmast3r]

People were allowed to have 2 stakes and if someone have 20stakes he should be kicked out, its simple as that.

That restriction was lifted, I checked before buying multiple stakes on Nxt AE.

i am not talking about AE, it was before that when NEM first launched. No one was allowed to claim NEM stake from more than 2 BTT accounts.

Incorrect.
When I registered it was allowed to claim stakes for family and friends.

so it was allowed to claim stake for mother,brother,sister,grandma,dogs,cats etc ? as far i know it was allowed to have just two stakes, can someone from Devs confirm this?

no.. one stake for yourself. and one for a family member. total 2 stakes max. that was always the rules.

Oh got it, if someone is "claiming" multiple stakes for a friend, that's BS.

I'm helping them to claim it. They are non techies.

I'm glad I used their PC's so I can probably prove that they are not puppets.
IF they are on the list ofcourse. Very curious. 

If you have used their PCs they shouldn't have been on the list in the first place. Pretty sure you'll get your stake during extended period if the data confirm that (not a promise just an assumption).

[msin]

I'm helping them to claim it. They are non techies.

I'm glad I used their PC's so I can probably prove that they are not puppets.
IF they are on the list ofcourse. Very curious. 

Just seems silly to claim stakes for the non-techies, people that can't simply claim a stake on BTT certainly won't be able to use the client.  

[mladen00]

I'll go a ahead and say that the biggest found cluster consisted of over 200 accounts.
Now imagine someone comes to you with plausible data that indicate such clusters ? What would you have done ?
I'm pretty sure noone would have said "Well we said we wouldn't do another investigation. So no, let em have it".

Regarding the question of whom to contact - Just contact me. Prefferably only with questions but sure if you need to blow of some steam go ahead.  

Pat, kick that son of b**** out of NEM

Kick everyone that have more than 10 sock accounts...

or maybe we can have voting pool

if i remember well UF rule was max 4 accounts per household (or same computer)

[Fatih87SK]

I'm helping them to claim it. They are non techies.

I'm glad I used their PC's so I can probably prove that they are not puppets.
IF they are on the list ofcourse. Very curious.  

Just seems silly to claim stakes for the non-techies, people that can't simply claim a stake on BTT certainly won't be able to use the client.  

They can do the basic.

Check balance.
Send coins.

 

What? Is there no room for these kind of people?
These people are the most faithful ones. They will never sell. Because if they want to, they have to ask me and I will say that they shouldn't and they should see it as a future investment.

I've been helping them with NXT as well. Logged in with their password and bought Assets etc.
They trust me so I see no problem.

[mrvegad]

People were allowed to have 2 stakes and if someone have 20stakes he should be kicked out, its simple as that.

That restriction was lifted, I checked before buying multiple stakes on Nxt AE.

i am not talking about AE, it was before that when NEM first launched. No one was allowed to claim NEM stake from more than 2 BTT accounts.

Incorrect.
When I registered it was allowed to claim stakes for family and friends.

so it was allowed to claim stake for mother,brother,sister,grandma,dogs,cats etc ? as far i know it was allowed to have just two stakes, can someone from Devs confirm this?

no.. one stake for yourself. and one for a family member. total 2 stakes max. that was always the rules.

https://forum.nemcoin.com/general-discussion/quick-question-about-nemstake/msg7592/#msg7592

Quote from kodtycoon:
"Wrong.. There was a 2.0 limit but that has been scrapped.. There is no cap now. You can redeem 20+ now if you have em"

that was for Nemstake on AE... there was a limit to how many stakes on the AE could be claimd, ie. split any stakes you guy into groups of two across accounts in order to discourage large accumulation.. but of course it was pointless so then it was dropped.. thats nothing to do with btt stake registration.

sorry, my bad.

Not sure what the difference is: I buy 20 stakes on the next AE or some sockpuppet gets 20 stakes.

I have not really followed this stake thing to closely so maybe there was a good reason for this but I still believe that 80% of the coins will end up in 20% of accounts.

[NoirSuccubus]

Oh, wow its getting nuts here guys. Hats off to the the team for their hard work on this latest catch. Imagine how xem will be traded after launch now with nearly 0 dumping from take hoarders, and with upward pressure from caught sockholders scrambling to buy back in. The fireworks are coming.

Edit: Release coming this weekend or next??

[mrvegad]

I'm helping them to claim it. They are non techies.

I'm glad I used their PC's so I can probably prove that they are not puppets.
IF they are on the list ofcourse. Very curious. 

Just seems silly to claim stakes for the non-techies, people that can't simply claim a stake on BTT certainly won't be able to use the client.  

agreed!

WTF??? Are you serious??

[patmast3r]

Alright I'll be off for a while. I'm not hiding just can't sit here 24h.
I'll address as many question as possible tomorrow allthough I'm sure others will be around to answer many of them.

[Spider]

I'm helping them to claim it. They are non techies.

I'm glad I used their PC's so I can probably prove that they are not puppets.
IF they are on the list ofcourse. Very curious. 

Just seems silly to claim stakes for the non-techies, people that can't simply claim a stake on BTT certainly won't be able to use the client.  

agreed!

I was helping my brother and my girlfriend to go through the whole process, using my computer. They're now on the list.

[Fatih87SK]

I'm helping them to claim it. They are non techies.

I'm glad I used their PC's so I can probably prove that they are not puppets.
IF they are on the list ofcourse. Very curious. 

Just seems silly to claim stakes for the non-techies, people that can't simply claim a stake on BTT certainly won't be able to use the client.  

agreed!

WTF??? Are you serious??

It's not easy to understand all of this when you can sign in to your normal bank account with just a PIN (4 numbers) at a website without installing software.

It's a whole different world. Not so user friendly as you think.

[NoirSuccubus]

Should we expect launch in the next week? If addressed are being prepared for distribution id guess we're shooting for this weekend?