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September 15, 2015, 06:54:41 AM
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after start of xem. when all 3000 nemsters distributed coin xem. none of them didn't think that a half of coins needs to be given on advertizing xem. anybody! instead thinking of advertizing and to put half of coins in advertizing xem, these people started thinking as if on rather to sell nemstake and to get rid of all coins. others who didn't sell who still had coins, they preferred to sit on huge bags with coins and to ache why at them grows nothing in price and on contrary falls?

those who has bags with coins- give a half from coins on advertizing xem!
more vividly! move!!

without advertizing anybody and never learns about xem! only i will know and my grandmother pensioner.

I think that this man is more then right. Ok Nortan, what will be your next step in advertizing xem ? How would your like to do this?

we can distribute to people xem as gifts and bonuses for purchase goods. it is necessary to come to distribution networks and to suggest sellers of goods to give gifts and pleasant bonuses for buyers in form of xem. still as option we can give certain tasks not difficult and people will receive xem for simple work.

still it is necessary to start paying in xem for placement banner advertizing nem. here or on website nem.io on a banner it is necessary to pay for number of visitors, or fixed monthly payment for placement of a banner with the nem logo it is necessary to pay.

still as option of advertizing to give to people chance to earn easy money with xem on gamblings, hyip, mlm and so on..

we will need to develop partner program for those who for remuneration of xem to post online and in real to glue banners with nem logo. partner program has to work always continuously and constantly. new investors shouldn't forget that 50% of investments they have to donate for advertizing xem.
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September 15, 2015, 07:41:44 AM
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there is one failure in ur concept

u dont need NEM to promote NEM

u need $



really?

need people not $$$$

if crypto needs $$$ thats a fail right there

PR bring people
PR cost $
people create demand
demand give NEM value

now NEM have no value
u cant sell it
there is no demand
so any coin sold is dumping the price even more

NEM wasting a big opportunity by let it fall more and more
it lose creditability as a good investment

all investors see is down down down

NEM should focus a taskforce of people on this PR and market topic
dont lets thing go on its own downwards
and hope for the magic unicorn makoto to save NEM with new releases of features

if u let NEM fall to far noone will care for the features

without liquidity on market u get no investors

 
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September 15, 2015, 08:00:30 AM
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there is one failure in ur concept

u dont need NEM to promote NEM

u need $



really?

need people not $$$$

if crypto needs $$$ thats a fail right there

PR cost $
....

pr not cost $.

all that it is necessary for us for advertizing xem at us already is.
we have xem.
we can enter fixed payment into xem for visitors on nem banner within partner program. 1 unique visitor on website nem.io is equal to 1 xem. or fixed monthly payment for owners blogs and websites for placement a banner with the nem logo.

we for this purpose don't need fiat.
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partner program

1) rewards for visitors. for owners large websites and blogs. for blogs index citing google is equal not lower than 3. 1 unique visitor costs 1 xem. or fixed payment in a month for placement a banner with nem logo.

2) rewards for involvement investors who wants to buy from 1000000 xem. here already fixed payment for actions. bring person who wants to buy 1000000 xem and after he buys receive a pleasant bonus. more you will bring investors more you will earn!

3) rewards for ideas. there is a good idea? receive for good idea at its approval of xem!

4) rewards for bugs, mistakes in work of system. found vulnerability in network functioning? tell us details and earn reward!

and so on. it is possible to think up much that for what it is possible to pay on a constant basis within partner program.
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Do you think if we advertise and do PR, NEM will go up? Why aren't other coins performing as well? They did PR and advertise, too, e.g., NXT. Surely something must be wrong, right?

Need to think out of the box. I have been saying many times that we need to show utility of NEM. Best advertisement is to convince programmers to embark on blockchain technology using NEM. That is where the strength of NEM is - its platform.

With NEM, we can also create a Ripple, Coinbase/Bitpay using decentralized APIs (note: most bitcoin projects are centralized API projects with a single central point of failure. Mycelium crashed when the Spam occurred a few days ago).

These are all jewels that we should try to get programmers to build as projects to help them in their business.

Look here: http://faucet.nem.io/ - most secure multisig faucet built in days!!
https://www.krakenlabs.org/XEMnotifier/ - email notifier project. Yes, others can do no doubt, but our APIs make it simple, too. No bending backward to do it.

We are also creating a nem tipbot in the Telegram.

Plenty of great things can be done. Share with us your thoughts and we can give you our 2 cents worth on how to do it.

Once there is utility, demand of XEM will naturally come. There is no easy route.
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+1 to that !
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NEM should having a pool what is used to pay marketing guys to push the awareness of the coin. But we should wait until v1 has been released.

there is one failure in ur concept

u dont need NEM to promote NEM

u need $



really?

need people not $$$$

if crypto needs $$$ thats a fail right there

PR bring people
PR cost $
people create demand
demand give NEM value

now NEM have no value
u cant sell it
there is no demand
so any coin sold is dumping the price even more

NEM wasting a big opportunity by let it fall more and more
it lose creditability as a good investment

all investors see is down down down

NEM should focus a taskforce of people on this PR and market topic
dont lets thing go on its own downwards
and hope for the magic unicorn makoto to save NEM with new releases of features

if u let NEM fall to far noone will care for the features

without liquidity on market u get no investors
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September 15, 2015, 10:44:56 AM
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there is one failure in ur concept

u dont need NEM to promote NEM

u need $



really?

need people not $$$$

if crypto needs $$$ thats a fail right there

PR bring people
PR cost $
people create demand
demand give NEM value

now NEM have no value
u cant sell it
there is no demand
so any coin sold is dumping the price even more

NEM wasting a big opportunity by let it fall more and more
it lose creditability as a good investment

all investors see is down down down

NEM should focus a taskforce of people on this PR and market topic
dont lets thing go on its own downwards
and hope for the magic unicorn makoto to save NEM with new releases of features

if u let NEM fall to far noone will care for the features

without liquidity on market u get no investors

You mean we will get no speculators, not investors. Investors are building and working on NEM now. That has nothing to do with the price or speculators.

                
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September 15, 2015, 10:55:36 AM
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Do you think if we advertise and do PR, NEM will go up? Why aren't other coins performing as well? They did PR and advertise, too, e.g., NXT. Surely something must be wrong, right?

Need to think out of the box. I have been saying many times that we need to show utility of NEM. Best advertisement is to convince programmers to embark on blockchain technology using NEM. That is where the strength of NEM is - its platform.

With NEM, we can also create a Ripple, Coinbase/Bitpay using decentralized APIs (note: most bitcoin projects are centralized API projects with a single central point of failure. Mycelium crashed when the Spam occurred a few days ago).

These are all jewels that we should try to get programmers to build as projects to help them in their business.

Look here: http://faucet.nem.io/ - most secure multisig faucet built in days!!
https://www.krakenlabs.org/XEMnotifier/ - email notifier project. Yes, others can do no doubt, but our APIs make it simple, too. No bending backward to do it.

We are also creating a nem tipbot in the Telegram.

Plenty of great things can be done. Share with us your thoughts and we can give you our 2 cents worth on how to do it.

Once there is utility, demand of XEM will naturally come. There is no easy route.

but without partner program, without ads, xem price soon will be 1 sat.. Embarrassed
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September 15, 2015, 10:57:19 AM
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Do you think if we advertise and do PR, NEM will go up? Why aren't other coins performing as well? They did PR and advertise, too, e.g., NXT. Surely something must be wrong, right?

Need to think out of the box. I have been saying many times that we need to show utility of NEM. Best advertisement is to convince programmers to embark on blockchain technology using NEM. That is where the strength of NEM is - its platform.

With NEM, we can also create a Ripple, Coinbase/Bitpay using decentralized APIs (note: most bitcoin projects are centralized API projects with a single central point of failure. Mycelium crashed when the Spam occurred a few days ago).

These are all jewels that we should try to get programmers to build as projects to help them in their business.

Look here: http://faucet.nem.io/ - most secure multisig faucet built in days!!
https://www.krakenlabs.org/XEMnotifier/ - email notifier project. Yes, others can do no doubt, but our APIs make it simple, too. No bending backward to do it.

We are also creating a nem tipbot in the Telegram.

Plenty of great things can be done. Share with us your thoughts and we can give you our 2 cents worth on how to do it.

Once there is utility, demand of XEM will naturally come. There is no easy route.

but without partner program, without ads, xem price soon will be 1 sat.. Embarrassed

Hardly.

                
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i see here a investment possibility
(buy when there is blood on the streets)
but lot people only see a big "stay away its creating a constant loss of value"

eather u attract more guys like me (which need also promotion)
or u get this line change direction with need PR too and some market love by dedicated NEM friendly trader group

the illusion we create something great and it will sell by itself will not come true
u have to promote it or it wont have success

promotion is not lie to people so they buy something (at least should not be...)
promotion is to make ur produkt known to many people by name and funtionalty and most important by feeling

in the end u need to seel a good feeling
that buy NEM is a investment into a possible great future
and who invest into NEM now could be part of a history repeat story like BTC 2010......

sell a dream
make the dream come true

works much better than
opposite way around

but it create pressure to deliver

pressure is a positive thing that can generate lot motivation to make things happen

 
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but without partner program, without ads, xem price soon will be 1 sat.. Embarrassed

OK. Let's think rationally. Saying it is 1 Sat is never going to happen. You think it will happen? With the amount floating around, Probably $5K will buy it all up. Just takes 20 guys to soak it all up at 1 BTC each.

What I am saying is, you need to put rationality into this.

Ok. Say, we want to advertise. My first question, advertise to who, and for how much? What partner program are we talking about? How effective is this going to be? Grab the people from other crypto initiatives? You think they will want to join NEM if they are sold into their own coin initiatives?

We need new market, new people and new users. Not new speculators. They will come when we have new users. And users are what we need to create.

It is not so simple. If you are experienced in marketing, you will not simply throw money into a bottomless pit. It needs to be purposeful and meaningful. It also needs to have real measures.

Today, as it stands, the real marketing is to go out and sell the system as a platform and engage startups to use the platform. You cannot advertise. You need to go out there and talk.

If we sit down here and become an armchair critique, it won't work. It will never work. NEM is not a scam and therefore NEM should not have speculators or pumpers/dumpers.

NEM is being worked at to develop projects and utility and that's where the real value of the XEM is.

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Do you think if we advertise and do PR, NEM will go up? Why aren't other coins performing as well? They did PR and advertise, too, e.g., NXT. Surely something must be wrong, right?

Need to think out of the box. I have been saying many times that we need to show utility of NEM. Best advertisement is to convince programmers to embark on blockchain technology using NEM. That is where the strength of NEM is - its platform.

With NEM, we can also create a Ripple, Coinbase/Bitpay using decentralized APIs (note: most bitcoin projects are centralized API projects with a single central point of failure. Mycelium crashed when the Spam occurred a few days ago).

These are all jewels that we should try to get programmers to build as projects to help them in their business.

Look here: http://faucet.nem.io/ - most secure multisig faucet built in days!!
https://www.krakenlabs.org/XEMnotifier/ - email notifier project. Yes, others can do no doubt, but our APIs make it simple, too. No bending backward to do it.

We are also creating a nem tipbot in the Telegram.

Plenty of great things can be done. Share with us your thoughts and we can give you our 2 cents worth on how to do it.

Once there is utility, demand of XEM will naturally come. There is no easy route.


Some say the easy way is to think it will come to you. Build it and they will come. And sure, once it's built they will come.

What I think some people are saying is there has to be some initial promotion, We should be planning on a simple, basic marketing push with the release of Mosaics.

I know NEM will offer much more in the future, but at the same time, it's not just pumping, it's getting the word out is what it is. Nothing wrong with that.

I also don't think we need to spend much at this stage. Just a marketing push. Letting people know what we have a accomplished, and where we are going.

I truly believe we can spread the word, and bring new people to our community without spending much of the marketing fund. Somewhere in the 5 to 10 percent range.

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There is not enough blood in the street yet to buy Wink NEM is definitely a good investment opportunity but I guess the downtrend will hold on some time. There is no news around which could pump the price.
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Some say the easy way is to think it will come to you. Build it and they will come. And sure, once it's built they will come.

What I think some people are saying is there has to be some initial promotion, We should be planning on a simple, basic marketing push with the release of Mosaics.

I know NEM will offer much more in the future, but at the same time, it's not just pumping, it's getting the word out is what it is. Nothing wrong with that.

I also don't think we need to spend much at this stage. Just a marketing push. Letting people know what we have a accomplished, and where we are going.

I truly believe we can spread the word, and bring new people to our community without spending much of the marketing fund. Somewhere in the 5 to 10 percent range.



The biggest challenge we have is that the devs prefer to work in the dark and cannot see light for whatever reasons. Our only champion is Makoto who is busy creating the traffic in Japan, and always up against a wall of maximalists in other initiatives. He has covered much ground. I will not be surprised that NEM will eventually spread from the East, which is a much better place to spread from, as the financial systems there are more fractured and disparate vs. the western ones, and hence a better fit.

It is not that we are totally devoid of a marketing push. But I fail to understand what "push" we are talking about here. People are always throwing the word marketing, but no one has ever come out with how. We have published in many places and we have been constantly waving our hands telling people we are around. So, what other marketing that we can do that is less than $5K, and of course, effective as well? I personally wouldn't want to spend more than that as this will not bring any better result.

I hate to say it, crypto initiatives are still not visible to the 7 billion people on the street. And to get their attention, it is not about passing a few XEM around. It has no meaning and no use for them.

What we really need, and I can't emphasise more, is utility that will catch on like wildfire. It has always been what I have been saying, and for so long.
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Some say the easy way is to think it will come to you. Build it and they will come. And sure, once it's built they will come.

What I think some people are saying is there has to be some initial promotion, We should be planning on a simple, basic marketing push with the release of Mosaics.

I know NEM will offer much more in the future, but at the same time, it's not just pumping, it's getting the word out is what it is. Nothing wrong with that.

I also don't think we need to spend much at this stage. Just a marketing push. Letting people know what we have a accomplished, and where we are going.

I truly believe we can spread the word, and bring new people to our community without spending much of the marketing fund. Somewhere in the 5 to 10 percent range.



The biggest challenge we have is that the devs prefer to work in the dark and cannot see light for whatever reasons. Our only champion is Makoto who is busy creating the traffic in Japan, and always up against a wall of maximalists in other initiatives. He has covered much ground. I will not be surprised that NEM will eventually spread from the East, which is a much better place to spread from, as the financial systems there are more fractured and disparate vs. the western ones, and hence a better fit.

It is not that we are totally devoid of a marketing push. But I fail to understand what "push" we are talking about here. People are always throwing the word marketing, but no one has ever come out with how. We have published in many places and we have been constantly waving our hands telling people we are around. So, what other marketing that we can do that is less than $5K, and of course, effective as well? I personally wouldn't want to spend more than that as this will not bring any better result.

I hate to say it, crypto initiatives are still not visible to the 7 billion people on the street. And to get their attention, it is not about passing a few XEM around. It has no meaning and no use for them.

What we really need, and I can't emphasise more, is utility that will catch on like wildfire. It has always been what I have been saying, and for so long.

don't dream. anybody in east doesn't need xem. it even is visible on daily volume BTC38. this exchange is also that east where billions of chinese live. they didn't even bring to xem fiat. there is no such couple of xem/cny! so don't hope for people from the east. xem price slowly through resistance will reach 1 sat. i wait for this price and made popcorn when with 1 sat my investments depart to 30 sat, and it is possible to 50 sat. i will be very rich having increased state in x50 times! Shocked
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don't dream. anybody in east doesn't need xem. it even is visible on daily volume BTC38.

why do you think he meant an exchange? Smiley

anyway, can't tell much more, but we're testing some very interesting things (and I'm not talking about mosaics here), some more details MIGHT come next week, no promise given though.

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Quote from: Nortan12rx link=topic=654845.msg12430048#msg12430048

don't dream. anybody in east doesn't need xem. it even is visible on daily volume BTC38. this exchange is also that east where billions of chinese live. they didn't even bring to xem fiat. there is no such couple of xem/cny! so don't hope for people from the east. xem price slowly through resistance will reach 1 sat. i wait for this price and made popcorn when with 1 sat my investments depart to 30 sat, and it is possible to 50 sat. i will be very rich having increased state in x50 times! Shocked

Looks like you speak a different language from anyone else in this discussion.

You are only  interested in price and speculation while all the others just don't care about it.

Before discussing how to reach the goals one should agree on which are them.
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Quote from: Nortan12rx link=topic=654845.msg12430048#msg12430048

don't dream. anybody in east doesn't need xem. it even is visible on daily volume BTC38. this exchange is also that east where billions of chinese live. they didn't even bring to xem fiat. there is no such couple of xem/cny! so don't hope for people from the east. xem price slowly through resistance will reach 1 sat. i wait for this price and made popcorn when with 1 sat my investments depart to 30 sat, and it is possible to 50 sat. i will be very rich having increased state in x50 times! Shocked

Looks like you speak a different language from anyone else in this discussion.

You are only  interested in price and speculation while all the others just don't care about it.

Before discussing how to reach the goals one should agree on which are them.

no. i have not a speculative interest in xem. when i that i it never for cheap sell xem purchase to anybody. many underestimate nem network potential. and many don't know that i know about decentralization. and will never be able to take away values which you will store in xem anybody from you. because nem network very well protects decentralization. here attack and control of 51% are impossible. here will never be centralization and so that someone one processed transactions. anyone of people having on account 10000 of xem can carry out harvesting. this is also main thing in nem network.

concerning xem price. yes, i'm clever investor and i want to jump in xem when coin is in very bottom not to lose from it. therefore planned an entry point in xem very large sum when price of 1 xem is equal to price of 1 sat. or after powerful movement price upward will begin. i wait anyway for a rebound from a bottom and arrival of very big banknote to xem coin. that money that for storage in xem as network will very well protect storage of capital in it because protection decentralization will be always observed by a network and anyone of people can start harvesting. thereby having provided decentralization of a network.

i will be rich! Shocked
this is real new economy movement after btc is finally centralized and killed with double-spending transactions.
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and now create buzz on markets
spread this interview on twitter facebook
post it on all forums related to crypto
all forum related to investments
tell ur family
tell ur friends

hire a indian personal assistant for everything u are to lazy to do on ur own (beside the friends/family part.....)

move ur ass and work for the success of ur coin lazy investors

the world where u get rich by doing nothing isnt this one

send a newsletter to all registered users on old NEM forum

and and and

PR guys

makoto did his job
now its ur turn

 
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