NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[makoto1337]

Dear NEM Team,

today i read the distribution is finished but i never got a real answer to my case. You put me on the socks list before launch.
I sent several pms to makoto and patmast3r months ago waiting patiently for a reply and a solution.
I offered indentification or other evidence that i am a real person.We were three original stakeholders. We share a flat and a busisness computer which we use for crypto related things as well.
My friend MartiniBlanco received his stake with nemesis block. I was put on socks list. Im also not very active here. The third friend who lived with us sold his stake early on nxt AE.
We kept ours and support Nem for over 1.5 !!! years now! Why didnt you even talk to me? Why dont you follow your own principles of fairness and transparency?
I am very disappointed not to say angry right now and hope you will solve this problem...

Its very sad you put technical evicence over real life. The original stakeholders are your foundation. Please dont forget that. And! I also paid for my stake.
Please manage my case and any case in this regard with serious and honest intention. Thank you.

Here is my NEM adress: NDEELK-JUL4RJ-MH2A2I-UQ45ED-S6ZGDZ-7ORPGC-WAHA

Looking at the data, it seems your sock appeal was rejected. The account was linked to much more than just MartiniBlanco. Also, it was linked by IP to aluman, so your mention of MartiniBlanco seems to suggest admitting to more than 2 stakes, which is why the appeal was rejected. Sorry for the inconvenience, but don't take it personally.

As of 7/22, all redemption is now closed.

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[makoto1337]

Refunds ended last July or August as I recall.

It is not our fault that so many people would not follow the rules. The point was to get a fair distribution. Thankfully it worked and we are not being pumped and dumped.

[choochimil]

Could you please check the status of my stake? I lodged my claim well before the redemption closed. I sent a pm as soon as I realised I didn't receive it in the initial distribution around April I think. I am at a loss as to why I was flagged as a sock in the first place. I was prompt through all stages of claiming tokens etc. I am a regular on the forum not someone who only logs in to complain about their stake.

[makoto1337]

Could you please check the status of my stake? I lodged my claim well before the redemption closed. I sent a pm as soon as I realised I didn't receive it in the initial distribution around April I think. I am at a loss as to why I was flagged as a sock in the first place. I was prompt through all stages of claiming tokens etc. I am a regular on the forum not someone who only logs in to complain about their stake.

Yes, it seems like you are marked as a sock.

IP was linked to weaknesswaran, which got a stake. Fingerprint was linked to spud3861, which also got a stake.
That was in round 2.

In redemption round 1, IP AND browser fingerprints were linked to spud3861, cremstopper, and cords51, which all got stakes. So in other words, you already have 4 stakes. That's enough.

choochimil has a lot of posts now, but at the time of the sock analysis, the account only had 10 posts in over a year.

Anyway, redemption and everything ended on 7/22. If you don't have a stake now, you will never get one from us. If you want to know if you have a stake, go look up your address on our blockchain explorer: http://chain.nem.ninja/

[choochimil]

I don't know the other folks. The analysis obviously gives false positives sometimes. As I said in the original claim pm, I was studying and using university computers a lot. Surely anyone else in that situation would appear as falsely linked. I would appreciate someone else in the dev team taking another look at it.

Edit: I also use privateinternetaccess on my laptop so presumably anyone else on the same connection has the same ip.

[makoto1337]

I don't know the other folks. The analysis obviously gives false positives sometimes. As I said in the original claim pm, I was studying and using university computers a lot. Surely anyone else in that situation would appear as falsely linked. I would appreciate someone else in the dev team taking another look at it.

Edit: I also use privateinternetaccess on my laptop so presumably anyone else on the same connection has the same ip.

Same IP + same fingerprint means the same computer. The rules were 2 stakes, which were meant to be 1 for you and 1 for a friend/loved one.

[choochimil]

I don't know what to say. I am frustrated that you are not opening your mind to the reality that the sock analysis is wrong in this case. I assure you and everyone that I do not know the accounts you have linked to me. Maybe they will see this and comment. This is not a case of me trying to get another stake for a friend or four others as you say, I never got my one stake. I would like to think someone else in the dev team can take a look at it. You bluntly saying redemption is over is not fair.

[koanado]

Dear NEM Team,
today i read the distribution is finished but i never got a real answer to my case. You put me on the socks list before launch.
I sent several pms to makoto and patmast3r months ago waiting patiently for a reply and a solution.
I offered indentification or other evidence that i am a real person.We were three original stakeholders. We share a flat and a busisness computer which we use for crypto related things as well.
My friend MartiniBlanco received his stake with nemesis block. I was put on socks list. Im also not very active here. The third friend who lived with us sold his stake early on nxt AE.
We kept ours and support Nem for over 1.5 !!! years now! Why didnt you even talk to me? Why dont you follow your own principles of fairness and transparency?
I am very disappointed not to say angry right now and hope you will solve this problem...
Its very sad you put technical evicence over real life. The original stakeholders are your foundation. Please dont forget that. And! I also paid for my stake.
Please manage my case and any case in this regard with serious and honest intention. Thank you.
Here is my NEM adress: NDEELK-JUL4RJ-MH2A2I-UQ45ED-S6ZGDZ-7ORPGC-WAHA

Looking at the data, it seems your sock appeal was rejected. The account was linked to much more than just MartiniBlanco. Also, it was linked by IP to aluman, so your mention of MartiniBlanco seems to suggest admitting to more than 2 stakes, which is why the appeal was rejected. Sorry for the inconvenience, but don't take it personally.
As of 7/22, all redemption is now closed.

What??? Makoto are u serious now Me and my friend MartiniBlanco wrote to you several times explaining the situation. Who or what is "aluman"?? Linked to much more?? What do u mean??
What does it mean: " it seems your sock appeal was rejected." it seems?? Does that mean the investigation is ongoing, not finished. In any legal case, this would not be enough for any evidence! But you deny me my stake, cause it SEEMS i am a sock puppet?! Seriously???
As I stated in my post and in my mails to you we were three friends: MartiniBlanco, masta23 and me koanado. Everyone of us has its own btt account as you wished. Of course not every one is is as active as others.
We live togehter and do business together. We share a business computer with which we do all crypto things as well. Im not a tech pro but i guess that explaines the same ip, doesnt it? Why didnt u try to find out whether im real or not after i reached out to you several times!?!? i suggested this as well!!!
Again: We were 3 and only 3!! friends who signed up and paid!!! as original stakeholder!! To put me on the socks list, saying everyone has the chance to explain themselves and it will be investigated and then just come around and say: sorry you were rejected, cause the data says so. dont take it personally is a big fat joke, isnt it???
You said be patient, cause everybody is busy at NEM Team. I was patient, didnt want to spam you. But i heard nothing from u till now!!
Thats not right!! This is not fair!!! This is not what NEM stands for!! Be a decent business partner and pay out my stake!!! I dont accept anything else! I am honest, I am legit, I come with best intentions! Dont treat me like a criminal now!! I await your statement!!!
Thank you very much!!!


PS: You are really upsetting a loyal supporter here. I live in Berlin, Germany. We have the biggest crypto scene in germany here. Me and espacially MartniBlanco already made a lot of marketing for nem. With my stake i wanted to support a local Tea Shop and decentralized organization for economic change. I convinced them to start using NEM as a means of payment once its launched and i have my stake, so they can try it out and test it. Well, saying just to let you know what happens when kill a supporter just by looking at your "DATA" and not talking to real humans!!! I guess thats the same what the NSA does or am i wrong!!!

[CECVW]

Dear NEM Team,
today i read the distribution is finished but i never got a real answer to my case. You put me on the socks list before launch.
I sent several pms to makoto and patmast3r months ago waiting patiently for a reply and a solution.
I offered indentification or other evidence that i am a real person.We were three original stakeholders. We share a flat and a busisness computer which we use for crypto related things as well.
My friend MartiniBlanco received his stake with nemesis block. I was put on socks list. Im also not very active here. The third friend who lived with us sold his stake early on nxt AE.
We kept ours and support Nem for over 1.5 !!! years now! Why didnt you even talk to me? Why dont you follow your own principles of fairness and transparency?
I am very disappointed not to say angry right now and hope you will solve this problem...
Its very sad you put technical evicence over real life. The original stakeholders are your foundation. Please dont forget that. And! I also paid for my stake.
Please manage my case and any case in this regard with serious and honest intention. Thank you.
Here is my NEM adress: NDEELK-JUL4RJ-MH2A2I-UQ45ED-S6ZGDZ-7ORPGC-WAHA

Looking at the data, it seems your sock appeal was rejected. The account was linked to much more than just MartiniBlanco. Also, it was linked by IP to aluman, so your mention of MartiniBlanco seems to suggest admitting to more than 2 stakes, which is why the appeal was rejected. Sorry for the inconvenience, but don't take it personally.
As of 7/22, all redemption is now closed.

What??? Makoto are u serious now Me and my friend MartiniBlanco wrote to you several times explaining the situation. Who or what is "aluman"?? Linked to much more?? What do u mean??
What does it mean: " it seems your sock appeal was rejected." it seems?? Does that mean the investigation is ongoing, not finished. In any legal case, this would not be enough for any evidence! But you deny me my stake, cause it SEEMS i am a sock puppet?! Seriously???
As I stated in my post and in my mails to you we were three friends: MartiniBlanco, masta23 and me koanado. Everyone of us has its own btt account as you wished. Of course not every one is is as active as others.
We live togehter and do business together. We share a business computer with which we do all crypto things as well. Im not a tech pro but i guess that explaines the same ip, doesnt it? Why didnt u try to find out whether im real or not after i reached out to you several times!?!? i suggested this as well!!!
Again: We were 3 and only 3!! friends who signed up and paid!!! as original stakeholder!! To put me on the socks list, saying everyone has the chance to explain themselves and it will be investigated and then just come around and say: sorry you were rejected, cause the data says so. dont take it personally is a big fat joke, isnt it???
You said be patient, cause everybody is busy at NEM Team. I was patient, didnt want to spam you. But i heard nothing from u till now!!
Thats not right!! This is not fair!!! This is not what NEM stands for!! Be a decent business partner and pay out my stake!!! I dont accept anything else! I am honest, I am legit, I come with best intentions! Dont treat me like a criminal now!! I await your statement!!!
Thank you very much!!!


PS: You are really upsetting a loyal supporter here. I live in Berlin, Germany. We have the biggest crypto scene in germany here. Me and espacially MartniBlanco already made a lot of marketing for nem. With my stake i wanted to support a local Tea Shop and decentralized organization for economic change. I convinced them to start using NEM as a means of payment once its launched and i have my stake, so they can try it out and test it. Well, saying just to let you know what happens when kill a supporter just by looking at your "DATA" and not talking to real humans!!! I guess thats the same what the NSA does or am i wrong!!!

Koanado they have handle really bad many cases accusing innocent people of socks just by having same IP address as people , friends, colleagues, family  that  live or work in the same place can have NEM as they talk to each other and told each other to get at stake, what it seems a member of the family has to go an internet shop just not to have the same IP address as his brother or sister etc, the same with a work colleague, he can not claim his stake from work as his colleague has a stake as well and need to go to a internet coffee . Makoto you said maximum 2stakes, I wonder how many you have , 50 stakes perhaps?  Fair distribution .We will find out soon

[BloodyRookie]

Just to let you people know:

The problem CECVW faced was due to using a very old testnet version of the NEM software.
All his private keys are valid and he can access his stakes once he installs the current version 0.6.42.

[patmast3r]

Just to let you people know:

The problem CECVW faced was due to using a very old testnet version of the NEM software.
All his private keys are valid and he can access his stakes once he installs the current version 0.6.42.

That's clearly the devs fault. This is a fucking SCAM !

[jabo38]

Just to let you people know:

The problem CECVW faced was due to using a very old testnet version of the NEM software.
All his private keys are valid and he can access his stakes once he installs the current version 0.6.42.

Wow!!!

That is very lucky for you CECVW.  Hahahaha

@bloodyrookie, that was really awesome that you 1) took that time as a dev to look into the problem and fix it for CECVW while at the same time being attacked constantly, and 2) handled yourself in a very respectable and professional manner.

[runpaint]

XEM is now available for voting at C-Cex!

[nembit86]

IMPORTANT.........new section in the NEM FORUM
Proposals for Community Funding

https://forum.ournem.com/proposals-for-community-projects/proposals-for-community-funding/

[CECVW]

Just to let you people know:

The problem CECVW faced was due to using a very old testnet version of the NEM software.
All his private keys are valid and he can access his stakes once he installs the current version 0.6.42.

That's clearly the devs fault. This is a fucking SCAM !

patmast3r Can I suggested to keep quiet and behave in a professional manner like BloodyRookie.

Thanks BloodyRookie  I am travelling now I will check when I come home.

[patmast3r]

Just to let you people know:

The problem CECVW faced was due to using a very old testnet version of the NEM software.
All his private keys are valid and he can access his stakes once he installs the current version 0.6.42.

That's clearly the devs fault. This is a fucking SCAM !

patmast3r Can I suggested to keep quiet and behave in a professional manner like BloodyRookie.

Thanks BloodyRookie  I am travelling now I will check when I come home.

You mean like you did when you threw around threats and baseless accusations ? You can suggest it but I have a feeling it's not gonna go anywhere.
Also, still looking forward to sunday. I hope you're gonna deliver ?

[CECVW]

Just to let you people know:

The problem CECVW faced was due to using a very old testnet version of the NEM software.
All his private keys are valid and he can access his stakes once he installs the current version 0.6.42.

That's clearly the devs fault. This is a fucking SCAM !

patmast3r Can I suggested to keep quiet and behave in a professional manner like BloodyRookie.

Thanks BloodyRookie  I am travelling now I will check when I come home.

You mean like you did when you threw around threats and baseless accusations ? You can suggest it but I have a feeling it's not gonna go anywhere.
Also, still looking forward to sunday. I hope you're gonna deliver ?

baseless accusations, you are pushing your luck

I suggest to stop this here as you don't know what I know

[mill0601]

Just to let you people know:

The problem CECVW faced was due to using a very old testnet version of the NEM software.
All his private keys are valid and he can access his stakes once he installs the current version 0.6.42.

That's clearly the devs fault. This is a fucking SCAM !

patmast3r Can I suggested to keep quiet and behave in a professional manner like BloodyRookie.

Thanks BloodyRookie  I am travelling now I will check when I come home.

You mean like you did when you threw around threats and baseless accusations ? You can suggest it but I have a feeling it's not gonna go anywhere.
Also, still looking forward to sunday. I hope you're gonna deliver ?

baseless accusations, you are pushing your luck

I suggest to stop this here as you don't know what I know

Im pretty sure you dont know anything harmful.

[dannac]

Could you please check the status of my stake? I lodged my claim well before the redemption closed. I sent a pm as soon as I realised I didn't receive it in the initial distribution around April I think. I am at a loss as to why I was flagged as a sock in the first place. I was prompt through all stages of claiming tokens etc. I am a regular on the forum not someone who only logs in to complain about their stake.

Yes, it seems like you are marked as a sock.

IP was linked to weaknesswaran, which got a stake. Fingerprint was linked to spud3861, which also got a stake.
That was in round 2.

In redemption round 1, IP AND browser fingerprints were linked to spud3861, cremstopper, and cords51, which all got stakes. So in other words, you already have 4 stakes. That's enough.

choochimil has a lot of posts now, but at the time of the sock analysis, the account only had 10 posts in over a year.

Anyway, redemption and everything ended on 7/22. If you don't have a stake now, you will never get one from us. If you want to know if you have a stake, go look up your address on our blockchain explorer: http://chain.nem.ninja/

So Makoto,
In this case you are clearly allowing one person to hold 4 stakes, saying that "4 is enough".
And in our case, we are 4 people that share the same internet connection at home (all flagged as Socks), you just gave us 2 stakes !?!?!! WTF ?!?!!

Be clear that i don't see anything wrong in letting this guy get what he paid for at the time of registration of interesting NEM , especially at this stage, where distribution is over, and there's any big risk of bump and jump anymore, at least nothing that could hurt NEM as it could has been at the launch...
I our case, if you double check, i'm pretty sure you will not find same IP for all our stakes, because at least 2 of the guys involved where oversea when they bought their stake, so they wouldn't be able to use our shared home PC at the time of registration... I'm pretty sure i'm recalling this correctly, even if it was ages ago.
Again. I don't think you spent enough time in the case...
I will never be tired to post and ask clarification here or any other forum, until this situation will not be clarified, simply because i don't think is fair.
And fairness seems to be your motto here....
FYI, this are our 4 addresses :

NDEDAO-PIQM3N-4A7JJS-ZAS7AX-D23FTD-7ZDVGF-6UEZ      (stake received 2 days ago)
NBVHZC-RRQUT4-6VZO7C-POFZYW-OLZV7W-UKUH4P-BKFW  (stake received 2 days ago)
NCY2AY-KG7A3R-G7HEJ5-D5IT73-RZMIEI-PWQFDF-372V        (STAKE NEVER RECEIVED)
NCS76L-2XBRDZ-XMYK47-B5CANJ-ON76UJ-2YMWFL-VB65      (STAKE NEVER RECEIVED)

Been very patient until now. Not anymore. 6 months and more has been way too much.
It's a pity. Because with my post and all the other flagged socks user posts you are just ruining the NEM reputation. Simply as that.

[dannac]

Could you please check the status of my stake? I lodged my claim well before the redemption closed. I sent a pm as soon as I realised I didn't receive it in the initial distribution around April I think. I am at a loss as to why I was flagged as a sock in the first place. I was prompt through all stages of claiming tokens etc. I am a regular on the forum not someone who only logs in to complain about their stake.

....Anyway, redemption and everything ended on 7/22. If you don't have a stake now, you will never get one from us. If you want to know if you have a stake, go look up your address on our blockchain explorer: http://chain.nem.ninja/

And from now on, the Red Bold text quoted above is where we will point the everyone attention....on this Forum, on any other forum i Know cares about NEM.
We have stakes, right, we should care about NEM, but well, it's not always all about money. And Devs behaviours and speaks is something that doesn't reflect what they claim to believe in... How would you trust 100% someone acting in this way ?!?
Dear Greedy Devs, Enjoy our 2 stakes we have paid for and that we are never going to received.
We really hope you will be able to buy some morality and ethic with our 4500K NEMs that we will never get from you (Makoto Docet).