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December 08, 2014, 10:46:48 AM |
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Why according to NXT pricing? nem is fairer than the NXT, more popular currency. It's worth more than the NXT  The code is a lot better too  How do you know? Did you study the latest version of the code of NXT? In the early days of NXT, the NEM developers were working on the code, even finding flaws in it. Whenever NXT has a new version go open source, it is pretty easy for them to go through the code. Also, as others have said, when Makoto says that NEM is being test-driven during the writing, it refers to the exact style of writing the code and the process in which it is built, not so much it being tested on a testnet. It is kind of a gold standard in writing code to make sure it is clean as far as I know. |
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kodtycoon
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December 08, 2014, 10:56:48 AM |
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Why according to NXT pricing? nem is fairer than the NXT, more popular currency. It's worth more than the NXT The code is a lot better too How do you know? Did you study the latest version of the code of NXT? In the early days of NXT, the NEM developers were working on the code, even finding flaws in it. Whenever NXT has a new version go open source, it is pretty easy for them to go through the code. Also, as others have said, when Makoto says that NEM is being test-driven during the writing, it refers to the exact style of writing the code and the process in which it is built, not so much it being tested on a testnet. It is kind of a gold standard in writing code to make sure it is clean as far as I know. definitely worth the read. also it does explain why more people need to test the beta. sounds like a great way to produce code. im surprised this isnt the standard way for cryptocurrency development to be done. |
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mattadc
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December 08, 2014, 12:53:32 PM |
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There is no silver bullet. It would be a surprise, if all the cryptocurrency development would use TDD. "Test-driven development does not perform sufficient testing in situations where full functional tests are required to determine success or failure due to extensive use of unit tests.[21] Examples of these are user interfaces, programs that work with databases, and some that depend on specific network configurations." "A high number of passing unit tests may bring a false sense of security, resulting in fewer additional software testing activities, such as integration testing and compliance testing." "Writing and maintaining an excessive number of tests costs time." |
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Istanbul34
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December 08, 2014, 12:53:49 PM |
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Why according to NXT pricing? nem is fairer than the NXT, more popular currency. It's worth more than the NXT The code is a lot better too How do you know? Did you study the latest version of the code of NXT? In the early days of NXT, the NEM developers were working on the code, even finding flaws in it. Whenever NXT has a new version go open source, it is pretty easy for them to go through the code. Also, as others have said, when Makoto says that NEM is being test-driven during the writing, it refers to the exact style of writing the code and the process in which it is built, not so much it being tested on a testnet. It is kind of a gold standard in writing code to make sure it is clean as far as I know. I know how the code was in the early days of NXT. It was messy. But it is way much better now. So I was wondering which version of the code he was comparing to. The early days or the latest version. |
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makoto1337
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December 08, 2014, 01:00:46 PM
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There is no silver bullet. It would be a surprise, if all the cryptocurrency development would use TDD. "Test-driven development does not perform sufficient testing in situations where full functional tests are required to determine success or failure due to extensive use of unit tests.[21] Examples of these are user interfaces, programs that work with databases, and some that depend on specific network configurations." "A high number of passing unit tests may bring a false sense of security, resulting in fewer additional software testing activities, such as integration testing and compliance testing." "Writing and maintaining an excessive number of tests costs time." Testing code is no silver bullet, but it helps There are a lot of places in the code that benefit from unit tests and I can't imagine developing something as complex as NIS without it. BTW, how many accounts do you have on BTT? It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code... |
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mattadc
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December 08, 2014, 01:20:03 PM |
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It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code...
Have you lost the focus? If the test-driven development is not used, it doesn't mean there is no testing! |
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kodtycoon
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December 08, 2014, 01:26:49 PM |
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It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code...
Have you lost the focus? If the test-driven development is not used, it doesn't mean there is no testing! very different kinds of testing that (could) bare very different results. for optimal development i would assume a combination of the two would be best practice. test-driven development followed by a rigorous (closed) testing once a new version is released internally then followed by even more rigorous public testing. ie. test the crap out of everything as hard as possible.  |
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mattadc
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December 08, 2014, 01:32:27 PM |
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It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code...
Have you lost the focus? If the test-driven development is not used, it doesn't mean there is no testing! very different kinds of testing that (could) bare very different results. for optimal development i would assume a combination of the two would be best practice. test-driven development followed by a rigorous (closed) testing once a new version is released internally then followed by even more rigorous public testing. ie. test the crap out of everything as hard as possible. True. Unfortunately the optimal development is may be found only after many projects. How many cryptocoins one group must build? |
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makoto1337
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December 08, 2014, 01:36:27 PM |
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It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code...
Have you lost the focus? If the test-driven development is not used, it doesn't mean there is no testing! very different kinds of testing that (could) bare very different results. for optimal development i would assume a combination of the two would be best practice. test-driven development followed by a rigorous (closed) testing once a new version is released internally then followed by even more rigorous public testing. ie. test the crap out of everything as hard as possible. True. Unfortunately the optimal development is may be found only after many projects. How many cryptocoins one group must build? Only one time is needed if you do it right. |
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mattadc
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December 08, 2014, 01:43:18 PM |
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It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code...
Have you lost the focus? If the test-driven development is not used, it doesn't mean there is no testing! very different kinds of testing that (could) bare very different results. for optimal development i would assume a combination of the two would be best practice. test-driven development followed by a rigorous (closed) testing once a new version is released internally then followed by even more rigorous public testing. ie. test the crap out of everything as hard as possible. True. Unfortunately the optimal development is may be found only after many projects. How many cryptocoins one group must build? Only one time is needed if you do it right. Who are those lucky .... Nobel prize winners ? Here is not suspected the success of NEM development. I guess NEM has devs, who are not doing their first project. Better chances ... |
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December 08, 2014, 01:55:09 PM |
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It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code...
Have you lost the focus? If the test-driven development is not used, it doesn't mean there is no testing! very different kinds of testing that (could) bare very different results. for optimal development i would assume a combination of the two would be best practice. test-driven development followed by a rigorous (closed) testing once a new version is released internally then followed by even more rigorous public testing. ie. test the crap out of everything as hard as possible. True. Unfortunately the optimal development is may be found only after many projects. How many cryptocoins one group must build? Only one time is needed if you do it right. Who are those lucky .... Nobel prize winners ? Here is not suspected the success of NEM development. I guess NEM has devs, who are not doing their first project. Better chances ... You seem to say some people are going to win the Nobel prize? What are you trying to tell us? Are you saying that this is not the first crypto the devs are developing? That is something new. Maybe you want to share more with us.  |
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kodtycoon
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December 08, 2014, 02:12:54 PM |
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It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code...
Have you lost the focus? If the test-driven development is not used, it doesn't mean there is no testing! very different kinds of testing that (could) bare very different results. for optimal development i would assume a combination of the two would be best practice. test-driven development followed by a rigorous (closed) testing once a new version is released internally then followed by even more rigorous public testing. ie. test the crap out of everything as hard as possible. True. Unfortunately the optimal development is may be found only after many projects. How many cryptocoins one group must build? Only one time is needed if you do it right. Who are those lucky .... Nobel prize winners ? Here is not suspected the success of NEM development. I guess NEM has devs, who are not doing their first project. Better chances ... You seem to say some people are going to win the Nobel prize? What are you trying to tell us? Are you saying that this is not the first crypto the devs are developing? That is something new. Maybe you want to share more with us. satoshi and bcnext working on nem? wow thats cool.. nem will be huge! |
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makoto1337
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December 08, 2014, 02:14:55 PM |
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It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code...
Have you lost the focus? If the test-driven development is not used, it doesn't mean there is no testing! very different kinds of testing that (could) bare very different results. for optimal development i would assume a combination of the two would be best practice. test-driven development followed by a rigorous (closed) testing once a new version is released internally then followed by even more rigorous public testing. ie. test the crap out of everything as hard as possible. True. Unfortunately the optimal development is may be found only after many projects. How many cryptocoins one group must build? Only one time is needed if you do it right. Who are those lucky .... Nobel prize winners ? Here is not suspected the success of NEM development. I guess NEM has devs, who are not doing their first project. Better chances ... You seem to say some people are going to win the Nobel prize? What are you trying to tell us? Are you saying that this is not the first crypto the devs are developing? That is something new. Maybe you want to share more with us. and bcnext working on nem? wow thats cool.. nem will be huge! You beat me tooit! Satoshi and BCNext working together to create a Utopian Future.  |
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mattadc
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December 08, 2014, 02:18:48 PM |
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It seems weird that anyone would be against testing code...
Have you lost the focus? If the test-driven development is not used, it doesn't mean there is no testing! very different kinds of testing that (could) bare very different results. for optimal development i would assume a combination of the two would be best practice. test-driven development followed by a rigorous (closed) testing once a new version is released internally then followed by even more rigorous public testing. ie. test the crap out of everything as hard as possible. True. Unfortunately the optimal development is may be found only after many projects. How many cryptocoins one group must build? Only one time is needed if you do it right. Who are those lucky .... Nobel prize winners ? Here is not suspected the success of NEM development. I guess NEM has devs, who are not doing their first project. Better chances ... You seem to say some people are going to win the Nobel prize? What are you trying to tell us? Are you saying that this is not the first crypto the devs are developing? That is something new. Maybe you want to share more with us. and bcnext working on nem? wow thats cool.. nem will be huge! You beat me tooit! Satoshi and BCNext working together to create a Utopian Future. I was writing one answer to rockethead ... but noticed that he has got already better answers |
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BloodyRookie
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December 08, 2014, 04:01:33 PM |
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Let's not put other software down. I would simply say NEM is a quite solid piece of software |
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NEM: NALICE-LGU3IV-Y4DPJK-HYLSSV-YFFWYS-5QPLYE-ZDJJ
NXT: 11095639652683007953
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December 08, 2014, 04:02:33 PM |
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Are we going to see the launch before or after the Christmas?
Lompakon käännöksessä oli muutama kirjoitusvirhekin, jotka korjaan, mutta en pitänyt omasta tekstistäni teknisten sanojen kohdalla. Mitä ehdotetaan: - remote harvesting - local harvesting Jätetäänkö alkuperäiseksi? Muutama teksti jää myös kankeaksi/kääntämättä, koska asettelu ei mahdollista ihan kaikkea.Korjataan nekin ehdotuksien mukaan. Vimeisimmästä päivityksestä voi vaihtaa kielen suomeksi. |
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McDoxy1
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December 08, 2014, 04:25:43 PM |
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Is there some documentation on how the Proof of Importance algorithm works and how it avoids sybill attacks? Or do we have to wait for a white paper?
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patmast3r
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December 08, 2014, 07:04:22 PM |
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CfB has said many times that he doubts POI will work. Nothing new really if that's what you're getting at ? I think the main reason is that people think it's a completely new thing. POI is an improvement over POS but POS isn't completely scratched it's just broadend with a few more factors so it's not just balance that counts but also activity. |
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December 08, 2014, 07:50:17 PM |
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How do you know? Did you study the latest version of the code of NXT?
I wouldn't compare NEM to NXT for a very simple reason: We are not there yet - where they were year ago. Regarding NXT code: I've said it few times already, and I can say it again, it's truly ASTONISHING what JeanLucPicard did with the code. |
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