[Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 200000 miners

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@patrike
Looking to use JCE GPU miner for TUBE it works but all the gpus show on CPU tabs how can I fix this ?

Awesome Miner is currently only including support for JCE CPU miner, so although JCE GPU miner probably works fine as well, Awesome Miner isn't able to detect if you do CPU or GPU mining.

Can you please send me the API report (toolbar: Tools -> API Report) for this miner via PM and I will take a look. Thanks!

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z-enemy miner did something i thought was strange they released 1.14 from beta 1.15a .

https://coinguides.org/z-enemy-1-14-1-15/ just a heads up an a ty for adding upload custom software a while back,


 z-enemy miner 1.14 works better then 1.15a or seems to for me.

mybad just looked https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3378390.0;all  enemy-1-16 is out .  

Z-enemy 1.16 will be included in the next update of Awesome Miner.

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patrike

SIA-explorer update to version 1.3.3
Can not get balance, error "Unable to get balance"
An API request is processed using a new link

Code:

https://siastats.info:3500/navigator-api/hash/:hash

FAQ -> https://siastats.info/api

The default SIA explorer in Awesome Miner is explorer.siahub.info. Have you tried using that one?

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PROFIT Switch ERROR NEOSCRYPT

Anyone notice this lately?

I suppose this could have been a high profit value reported by MPH for a period of time. Right now it looks like the values are the same as for other pools. You can use the Online Services tab to see what MPH is reporting and compare it to the other Neoscrypt pools.

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WTF with this upgrade? all my uploaded software is gone Damn!!! Stupid update EVER!!!

Can you share more details on this issue? Did this happen on all remote systems as soon as you launched version 5.4?

The only way to cleanup the downloaded/uploaded mining software on disk is by manually launching the diagnostics, clicking the Advanced button and then click the cleanup menu item. There is no automatic feature for this and I've not had any other reports on this issue. Please let me know any additional details. Thanks!

[patrike]

Hi Patrike, are you going to add the support for BTMiner_NebuTech (https://github.com/NebuTech/BTMiner_NebuTech/releases) anytime?

thanks
Marco

Yes, it will be included in one of the next versions of Awesome Miner.

[principino1984]

Hi Patrike, are you going to add the support for BTMiner_NebuTech (https://github.com/NebuTech/BTMiner_NebuTech/releases) anytime?

thanks
Marco

Yes, it will be included in one of the next versions of Awesome Miner.

awesome! thanks

Marco

[patrike]

can you add https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4724735.msg42696177#msg42696177   lolMiner v0.42 (Aug 17, 2018) .

Please!!! .

Lolminer has a number of restrictions in their license about redistributing their mining software. This makes it less attractive to support compared to most other mining software. It might get added in the future, but then I need to work out something with their dev team first.

[patrike]

Hello Patrike,
Thanks a lot for adding ability to update softwares using local network shares. It works perfectly !

I would have another request regarding benchmarking. Most of the softwares allow AM to read power consumption from graphic cards.
Could you add the possibility for AM to read this power data during benchmarking and save it at same time it save hashrate ?
I know it's not representative of the global power used by a rig but it could be enough to compare profits between algorithms...

Thanks for the update.

The feature to include power usage for benchmarks should be possible to support on nVidia systems in the future.

Thank you patrike!

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Code:

TL;DR
Could you give the consideration to offer (for a price where you see fit) periodic data collection into AM Cloud that includes data like http://mypc:17790/api/miners, and future, power consumption when integrated) please?

*** Long Version***
More feature suggestions - (likely suggested b4, but let's see if it can be pushed up the development plan)

I think by now, most ppl gotten into mining "seriously" (ones that can call collection of home rigs "mini farm" and has to fork out electricity cost from own pocket) are starting to realise that mining is hard work and not immediately profitable or "lucrative", as of this time with BTC hitting almost yearly low and Altpocalypse, a good portion of the mining community has already switched off their rigs / sold their equipment...etc. It probably makes good sense to implement a "real" performance analysis feature and there's no better time than now when everyone start to realise the pick and shovels are quite costly to run and work their magic.

Right now, I haven't came across (granted, haven't tried much) any software that seriously takes the cost factor into performance report/analysis. like @trucobit says, it's a feature that is becoming very sought after (see how desperate he is ). Everything involved in profit switching decision making is revolved around no more than 24 hours of data and can only provide estimate with limited samples, this is true not just for AM, but almost every collective mining management software out there.

IMHO, there really is no "performance analysis/report" when this performance doesn't take into account of cost, AM already has historic hashrate performance logging, but that means little on it's own if power consumption / monetary profit statistics cannot be used in conjunction with this data. Especially when hashrate differs from profit switching perspective and the data on its own has very little to no usefulness.

Might I humbly suggest, that since AM already has cloud service integrated. Is it possible for now, that you could provide some options to collect (as much in detail as possible) mining data like how @Finnsk3 does (http://stats.finnsk3.com/) periodically (1min is cool).

I understand implementing anything useful for representation / analysis will take huge amount of time (like @Finnsk3 said, he collected all the data, but he also lacks time to have it integrated in his own site for reporting), but at least it would be nice to have a way for us non-programmers to have these historical data collected and available for future use. and you could work this one out progressively to provide extra add-on services for the AM Cloud feature like how @trucobit suggested @Finnsk3 (at a cost of course, I know @trucobit and I for 2 are willing to pay for the reasonable add-on price for additional features ;p, i'm not inciting business competition between you and your customer(s), but who'd know AM better than you and already has a working cloud platform to run the services?)

Wouldn't be useful if there's no data to analyse, so better late than never, to start collection process now, and gradually expand the aspects of report analysis. This not only give insight to past performance, future estimates, but it could provide a nice foundation for "Intelligent Profit Switching" decision making etc.

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One thing I'm doing (extremely slowly) is that while people are requesting ability to record and find out the optimal "intensity", I'm trying to find the optimal Hash/W at given BTC/Fiat in order to find the best Profit/W, by adjusting Power Limit instead of adjusting intensity, in theory and probably easily (but not for me, my mathematics sucks), there is an optimal given BTC price where benefit of increase in power consumption still results in more increase in profit and conversely in some cases, benefit (profit) of reducing power usage (hence increase H/W) actually is better when say, in a prolonged bear market like this year.

This for me (and my level of crappy maths) involves benchmarking at various PL (currently, i'm doing in 10% increments) and record them in different profiles, then later trying to figure out the correct formula, so I can say (in English/common language) and make rules that's like (for a very concise example):

Code:

When USD/BTC is > 10000 and/or mbtc/MHs (for particular algo) is > xxx, then use high PL profile, or else, use low PL profile.

this would come into very handy to find an optimal value for USD/BTC and mbtc/MHs (once I figured out the formulas or...if you could make AM do it, saves me the headache   ) used for the trigger, especially when you also have a comprehensive "historical" data to compare.

Best Regards,

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P.S. I just tried minerstats.com's msOS, and the comprehensive reporting doesn't have what I wanted above, and AM is far more superior and versatile in terms of profit switching (and self managed), so for a price of paying for the kind of services like minerstats, minerboard, hiveOS, i'd rather have to just pay AM and have less complicated operation.

Although I quote you (@moppidoo) here, the answer below is of course for @trucobit as well.

First of all, I fully agree with your points that the current performance history feature and the insight and statistics of what you have been mining isn't as good as it could be. I've had a number of comments on this so it's on the list of feature to add.

Your insightful feedback is valuable and is interesting as it also brings up the concept from a Cloud Services point of view. May I ask what your view is on if the existing Performance History feature is improved, without the use of Cloud Services? For example that Awesome Miner wouldn't only include hashrate and temperature, but also pools, algorithm, mining software, power usage and profit? Of course a way to analyze and get a summary of this would also be required.

I do see both benefits and drawbacks with including Cloud Services in the concepts here so any additional comments on this topic is of course valuable.

Thanks for the great comments.

[toptek12]

can you add https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4724735.msg42696177#msg42696177   lolMiner v0.42 (Aug 17, 2018) .

Please!!! .

Lolminer has a number of restrictions in their license about redistributing their mining software. This makes it less attractive to support compared to most other mining software. It might get added in the future, but then I need to work out something with their dev team first.

TY after you made this post i went an asked but i don't think they care or will offer any help they seem like ass holes by some of there posts but that's me,  I gotta try . I know they lower there fee bah bah etc etc !!!!.

Thanks again you always listen.

[moppidoo]

...snip (wall of text)

Although I quote you (@moppidoo) here, the answer below is of course for @trucobit as well.

First of all, I fully agree with your points that the current performance history feature and the insight and statistics of what you have been mining isn't as good as it could be. I've had a number of comments on this so it's on the list of feature to add.

Your insightful feedback is valuable and is interesting as it also brings up the concept from a Cloud Services point of view. May I ask what your view is on if the existing Performance History feature is improved, without the use of Cloud Services? For example that Awesome Miner wouldn't only include hashrate and temperature, but also pools, algorithm, mining software, power usage and profit? Of course a way to analyze and get a summary of this would also be required.

I do see both benefits and drawbacks with including Cloud Services in the concepts here so any additional comments on this topic is of course valuable.

Thanks for the great comments.

Hi Patrike,

I think Cloud based service extensions would be additional features with one exception: The storage of historical data. Nowadays, cloud is one of the major options to allow accessing to "data" to have a greater degree of redundancy. But I do understand there will be also a lot of infrastructure considerations, ongoing maintenance if a comprehensive set of services is to be implemented into cloud/server side processing, this may not mean the best use of your time if you were to be distracted or overloaded with maintenance issues.

So I think that it would be for a start, to have (like a lot of mobile apps) the Remote Agent to have the functionality to collect data ongoing basis, and perhaps, compress/upload them to AM cloud, or even allow user to choose whether it's Google Drive/Onedrive/Amazon/Dropbox...etc.

AM Host, on the other hand, have readily access to these uploaded data (and because it's in the cloud, configurable, meaning when users want to transfer configurations to say, changing the AM host for whatever reason, they will still have access to these data fairly easily as it is already backed up in the cloud) can download them locally, append, aggregate and do all the analysis/reporting + use for profit switching purposes / rule triggers.

Right now it's not uncommon for farm operators to have multiple geologically different sites due to whatever restrictions to space and cost each are facing. While setting up private VPN services allow AM host to seamlessly control the remote rigs, this also has no redundancy when say, either (remote or host) sites' connection are down due to outages. I personally experienced 4 major multi-hour outages, 3 on host site, 1 on remote site since beginning of this month, each time lasting for more than 8 hours. The intermittent up and down (or complete drop out during those time) means I have almost no control over what I'm mining on the remote site, even when the remote site still has internet connection.

This is where I think Extended Cloud service comes in, a way to provide 2nd endpoint for remote agents via AM Cloud. It does mean that the fundamental AM profit switching engine probably has to be integrated into the cloud platform though, much like HiveOS, Minerstat...etc, though I think AM should do it as a Hybrid Model, that there's a way to implement in a simplistic manner.

Such that, AM Host PC will always be the primary endpoint for controlling Remote Agents. But should connection fail between them, the remote agents could be pointed to the cloud on-demand or automatically via detection to set the Cloud as the controller endpoint for x interval (like how ignore pool, failover...etc works)

So the Cloud services doesn't have to be complicated, but should contain the profit switching engine that is the basis of AM Host, sync with AM Host profit switching settings, and take control over rigs when required.

Right now, it works like this:

Code:

Cloud <--> AM Host <--> Remote Agent

and I think it would be great if it could be made to like

Code:

Cloud <----> Remote Agent
^
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v                   ^
AM Host <-----------| 

(sorry, bad ascii art.....hope you get the picture)

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This is going to be immediately helpful in one scenario, say one needed to be absent from the AM Host site for extended period of time (days, weeks) and whether the Host site has to be temporarily shut-down or simply due to outages, he/she can still have all the primary controls over remote sites without the need to reconfigure VPN, AM Host....pools, Profiles, most importantly, the down time...the more miners you have, a glitch or hiccup in transferring AM config file, the longer the operation may be interrupted. This, in contrast to say, Minerstat, means all rigs are still fully self-managed, and compare to HiveOS (afaik) still retain the best and most flexible profit switching controls.

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apologies for another wall of text, the above is just one of the possibilities of extending AM's functionality/redundancy via the use of Cloud Services, I'm sure others could come up with more ideas on how this could be utilised. However, I believe, that a good plan is probably to keep focusing on developing AM Host as the main controller (features / stability / integration .... etc) and the Cloud, to be utilised further than just a web frontend from its current form, as a major backup controller. Feature and function wise, it can be implemented gradually over time as it matures / demand and resources allow. What do you think?

Best Regards,

[moppidoo]

Hi Patrike, are you going to add the support for BTMiner_NebuTech (https://github.com/NebuTech/BTMiner_NebuTech/releases) anytime?

thanks
Marco

Yes, it will be included in one of the next versions of Awesome Miner.

awesome! thanks

Marco

Hurray! looking forward for this one.

I know everyone has different experience with different mining programs/hw combinations, for me, I think I finally pinpointed what is causing the instability of all my rigs. 1050Ti, 1060, 1070, 1070Ti, it was BMiner and instead of causing crashes at beginning of mining session, my observation is that it cause some GPUs not properly uninitialised on all algos (yeah, make it a bit trickier since I keep thinking culprit is the one that's starting, not ending). luckily Equihash for GPU is kinda not hot anymore, so I just fall back to EWBF Zcash for that one even though BMiner has 20% more performance (not worth it if rig frequently randomly crashes)

so, can't wait to try the other Bytom miner out

[Allo-4ka]

The default SIA explorer in Awesome Miner is explorer.siahub.info. Have you tried using that one?

Today, 08/20/2018 everything works, but on the 18th and 19th the balance could not be obtained

[MHyza]

just updated miners:

T-Rex 0.61:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432704.0

Z-enemy 1.16:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3378390.0

thanks for the update, team. Keep up really good work

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just updated miners:

T-Rex 0.61:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432704.0

Z-enemy 1.16:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3378390.0

thanks for the update, team. Keep up really good work

A new version of Awesome Miner is just about to be released, and it will at least include the latest Z-enemy miner. For T-Rex I do see that there are some changes and improvements to the API so I need to spend a little time on that one before I include it (but you can expect it within the next few days).

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Awesome Miner version 5.4.1

- Power cost can be specified per Profit Profile (see Profit Profile Properties, Override section)
- Power cost can be configured to be specified in the same currency as used for display (see Options dialog, Profit Switching section)
- Added a new rule action Set Property where the power cost can be set globally or per Profit profile. This action can be used for scheduling different power costs depending on the time of the day.
- Bulk edit of miners includes support for setting the Description field of the selected miners, including use of variables for assigning unique numbers to each miner
- The ASIC tab for Avalon miners will show each individual miner when Awesome Miner is presenting the information for the Avalon controller.
- Introducing Help buttons in many dialogs to faster get access to the online documentation
- Added mining software: BTMiner NebuTech 8.0
- Z-enemy miner 1.16

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Although I quote you (@moppidoo) here, the answer below is of course for @trucobit as well.

First of all, I fully agree with your points that the current performance history feature and the insight and statistics of what you have been mining isn't as good as it could be. I've had a number of comments on this so it's on the list of feature to add.

Your insightful feedback is valuable and is interesting as it also brings up the concept from a Cloud Services point of view. May I ask what your view is on if the existing Performance History feature is improved, without the use of Cloud Services? For example that Awesome Miner wouldn't only include hashrate and temperature, but also pools, algorithm, mining software, power usage and profit? Of course a way to analyze and get a summary of this would also be required.

I do see both benefits and drawbacks with including Cloud Services in the concepts here so any additional comments on this topic is of course valuable.

Thanks for the great comments.

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apologies for another wall of text, the above is just one of the possibilities of extending AM's functionality/redundancy via the use of Cloud Services, I'm sure others could come up with more ideas on how this could be utilised. However, I believe, that a good plan is probably to keep focusing on developing AM Host as the main controller (features / stability / integration .... etc) and the Cloud, to be utilised further than just a web frontend from its current form, as a major backup controller. Feature and function wise, it can be implemented gradually over time as it matures / demand and resources allow. What do you think?

Best Regards,

Thanks for all input. There are a number of long term goals that all will take Awesome Miner in this direction.

1) Linux support where a Beta will soon be available. This will allow you to run mining on Linux as well and as part of this implementation there is also a new communication protocol between Awesome Miner and Remote Agent designed for supporting communication directly between Remote Agent and Cloud Services in the future.

2) Another feature I have in mind is the use of Cloud Services for solving networking scenarios instead of using VPN between Awesome Miner and Remote Agent. Today Awesome Miner connect to Remote Agent, but the plan is also to allow Remote Agent push the data to the Cloud Services and Awesome Miner will request it from there. At this point, Cloud Services is only used to transfer data and not for processing and profit switcher. The benefit would be that Awesome Miner and Remote Agent can be on different networks without the need of VPN and port forwarding.

3) The Awesome Miner application is currently a client application only, and you can only run one instance of the application. The plan for the future is to allow multiple instances of the user interface connected to the same "Awesome Miner engine". I also think this is where your suggestions makes great sense, where the "Awesome Miner engine" also could be running in the Cloud. You would still use the Awesome Miner window application to configure everything, but in this scenario you can shutdown your local Awesome Miner computer and it would still be running somewhere else.

At this point in time, I also agree with your points about being able to store more data in the Cloud to get better insight and reporting features.

Please note that Awesome Miner will always continue to support running without Cloud Services and any external dependencies. There are a number of larger customers using Awesome Miner and want full control and don't want any information to leave their network. These customers see the main value of Awesome Miner as a software solution they can run completely on their own premise without dependencies on a cloud solution that someone else manage. The goal of Awesome Miner is to support all these deployment scenarios in the future.

[pbuva]

Awesome Miner version 5.4.1
- Z-enemy miner 1.16

With this version, the x16r benchmark does not work

[MHyza]

Awesome Miner version 5.4.1
- Z-enemy miner 1.16

With this version, the x16r benchmark does not work

Working fine on many machines for me

[Gongolo]

Is someone succesfully using (algo) profit switching @ mining-dutch with baikal x10?
I've read suggestions in this thread, but I was unable to make awesome miner control baikal x10.
AM connects baikal api, but when I try to start external profit miner, it tells me to add more pools or to add more software to profit profile.
Thank you in advance.