GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

[alienesb]

Fees are ridiculous at this point and so are the predictions for the magical coin. I can spend the money at another place (that's not LTCG) and make four times as much as with GAW in BTC not some bullshit coin.

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[suchmoon]

It's amazing what kind of inane garbage gets posted on HT and not only it doesn't get questioned on technical merits, it actually gets encouragement ("think bigger").
https://hashtalk.org/topic/15099/i-think-i-figured-out-josh-s-plan

Anyway the good news of the day is that ZenCloud improved the "Latest Activity" page, you can see now which hashlet the fees belong to and other useful details. Now let's hope they add all that to the CSV export.

[Honeycutt22]

So.... they jacked up payouts today... A lot of people are way short on HP payouts.

Yeah I noticed i didn't get close to what i should have especially since i DD'd HP. I am sure Gaw will figure something out or at minimum correct the payouts for the future.

You can DD HP with primary as HP? Or how did you do that?

I didn't mean to but it selected it and went along with it, HP was primary and DD was HP.

That feature hasn't been released yet... I thought... Evidently you can use it?

[mutha]

I decided to run a test... I know of a very nice little FREE FAUCET and decided to experiment and compare it to the Multi Hash miner... here is the results after 24 hours of the multi miner

Today at 3:03 PM   Maintenance Fee      -0.00023720 BTC
Today at 3:03 PM   Payout                    0.00032357 BTC

so a total pay out of                              0.00008637 BTC

ok this is the results of the FREE FAUCET after 7 hours.... of clicking it from time to time, I am not going to click the faucet for 24 hours straight, so you will have to do the math.


0.00004950 BTC
21 transactions

Anyhow... there ya have it believe it or not.  

[coinGeek]

Bitmain posted on HT: https://hashtalk.org/user/bitmain
Not here yet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=827552

This is settled now:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=827552.msg9378239#msg9378239

Dear Josh and Teams!

Thank you for your purchase. We hope you’ll enjoy our hard-working ants! Oh yes,
it was over 5PH/s of ants and they are marching your way to join GAWSOME”

BITMAIN

Bitmain Antminer Products with the original warranty are only available at http://www.bitmaintech.com

I'm guessing "they are marching your way" means they are not delivered yet. Which means any pictures we saw couldn't have been GAW data data centers (and they never said they were, they just posted the photos and let the fans draw that wrong conclusion).

Also, I'm guessing that bitmain kept quiet until the deal was actually closed. Not when they were just talking about it and GAW wanted the PR. But, it's weeks later now and the equipment will be worth, how much less? by the time it's installed.

[suchmoon]

Bitmain posted on HT: https://hashtalk.org/user/bitmain
Not here yet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=827552

This is settled now:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=827552.msg9378239#msg9378239

Dear Josh and Teams!

Thank you for your purchase. We hope you’ll enjoy our hard-working ants! Oh yes,
it was over 5PH/s of ants and they are marching your way to join GAWSOME”

BITMAIN

Bitmain Antminer Products with the original warranty are only available at http://www.bitmaintech.com

I'm guessing "they are marching your way" means they are not delivered yet. Which means any pictures we saw couldn't have been GAW data data centers (and they never said they were, they just posted the photos and let the fans draw that wrong conclusion).

Also, I'm guessing that bitmain kept quiet until the deal was actually closed. Not when they were just talking about it and GAW wanted the PR. But, it's weeks later now and the equipment will be worth, how much less? by the time it's installed.

The pictures were only showing 300-400 TH/s, and the miners looked like still being installed, so it could have been an early partial batch of this order or even a separate earlier order (perhaps 5 PH/s is not S3s, could be S4). The pictures were consistent with earlier pictures of power feeds being installed and the interior of that warehouse being furnished. I don't think these two things contradict each other, but it shows that putting together a 5 PH/s farm may take weeks if not months.

As for the difficulty, the flip side of that is the low BTC/USD rate. I'm sure many miners would prefer 10%+ diff growth and 600+ USD per coin unless they get free power.

[Flep182]

I'm happy with the new details on payout. Bit annoying that after splitting my big Genesis hashlet into a big chunk and 5 x 10's I didn't get a payout for the big unit

[suchmoon]

I'm happy with the new details on payout. Bit annoying that after splitting my big Genesis hashlet into a big chunk and 5 x 10's I didn't get a payout for the big unit

I think maintenance fees are still messed up too. It looks like the fee is applied according to what you owned at the beginning of the day. E.g. if you purchase a hashlet you won't pay maintenance for the first (partial) day, if you sell it you will pay full maintenance for the last (partial) day. At least I haven't seen fractional fees so far, it's been all or nothing. Now same thing seems to be happening with HP pool. The first day when you select HP you still pay the full maintenance fee. I hope that's just a temporary glitch and not how it's going to work in the long run because this would open all sorts of problems and - dare I say - exploits.

[Flep182]

I'm happy with the new details on payout. Bit annoying that after splitting my big Genesis hashlet into a big chunk and 5 x 10's I didn't get a payout for the big unit

I think maintenance fees are still messed up too. It looks like the fee is applied according to what you owned at the beginning of the day. E.g. if you purchase a hashlet you won't pay maintenance for the first (partial) day, if you sell it you will pay full maintenance for the last (partial) day. At least I haven't seen fractional fees so far, it's been all or nothing. Now same thing seems to be happening with HP pool. The first day when you select HP you still pay the full maintenance fee. I hope that's just a temporary glitch and not how it's going to work in the long run because this would open all sorts of problems and - dare I say - exploits.

To be honest, 0,01 (what I'll be missing from my day worth of mining) is just not worth the hassle anymore with reporting since it took me weeks to get missing hashlets fixed.
Got ROI and 0,09 on top of it, so from here I'll just wait and empty the account every day. Have the free 2 Mh/s Prime that I'll keep to exploit that hashcoin if that ever comes. But to be honest, I'm out of the loggin in, doubledipping, checking rates and other crap. I'll put them to zenpool and spend my time in this topic instead. If I'll login incidentally, yes I'll click DD, but it won't be a daily routine. Mainly because of all this kind of half/non-working crap.
I'm not that annoyed that I'll sell everything and more elsewhere, I don't think they're an outright scam, but I'm getting tired of the hyping

[Oldminer]

Whoaa massive price drops on zencloud...multi's @ $6.95 is half price, zen's @ $14.95, and prime's being sold for $35.70!

Glad I got $40 for my Primes a couple weeks ago & $17-$18 for my Zen's. Thanks all who bought!

[suchmoon]

Whoaa massive price drops on zencloud...multi's @ $6.95 is half price, zen's @ $14.95, and prime's being sold for $35.70!

Glad I got $40 for my Primes a couple weeks ago & $17-$18 for my Zen's. Thanks all who bought!

Yep, the prices are sliding down despite all the hype. I wonder if BTC rise (if it sticks) will lift the prices a bit.

It's interesting that the exclusive-collectible Legendary costs now LESS (~$58) than regular primes through resellers during the "out of stock" flip flop ($70).

MultiHashlet seems to have some speculative potential. $5 yesterday, $7 earlier today, now around $6.

I bought some cheap Zens mainly for experimenting with hash-things.  ~$12 now.

[winter]

again today it happend. I had it on 24hr with hp and i only got like half of what it should have got.
something is fishy with there system. they really should look in to it.

[welchy8764]

Was shadow banned last night for questioning all the Hype on the new coin.. WTF.. There is something fishy going on. I have been with GAW 6 months and sold all my primes. You watch!! The story will change tomorrow.. The white paper was to be released which will give everyone the real story(at least I hope). This is 1st time I really have to question motives of the CEO.. The postings all over the site about "ALL in" etc. etc.. really should be addressed by CEO as not advised because of the nature of the business. This smells bad..

[welchy8764]

Whoaa massive price drops on zencloud...multi's @ $6.95 is half price, zen's @ $14.95, and prime's being sold for $35.70!

Glad I got $40 for my Primes a couple weeks ago & $17-$18 for my Zen's. Thanks all who bought!

Yep, the prices are sliding down despite all the hype. I wonder if BTC rise (if it sticks) will lift the prices a bit.

It's interesting that the exclusive-collectible Legendary costs now LESS (~$58) than regular primes through resellers during the "out of stock" flip flop ($70).

MultiHashlet seems to have some speculative potential. $5 yesterday, $7 earlier today, now around $6.

I bought some cheap Zens mainly for experimenting with hash-things.  ~$12 now.

Sold 300 primes and got 37.00 each..These were all hosted miners converted to primes so I didnt do to bad. Its everyone who has invested the last month or so who I worry about. I surely hope that something is done to make them whole. In the mean time I will wait and swoop in for the clean-up in a few weeks when nothing happens with this coin!! LOL

[NeonTranceBadger]

Was shadow banned last night for questioning all the Hype on the new coin.. WTF.. There is something fishy going on. I have been with GAW 6 months and sold all my primes. You watch!! The story will change tomorrow.. The white paper was to be released which will give everyone the real story(at least I hope). This is 1st time I really have to question motives of the CEO.. The postings all over the site about "ALL in" etc. etc.. really should be addressed by CEO as not advised because of the nature of the business. This smells bad..

These are the 4 things I want to know right now about hashcoin

HashCoin just makes no sense to me for what Josh is promising. 
1. He wants it to be bigger than BitCoin, but how can it be if it will be completely controlled by GAW which goes against the fundamentals of cryptocurrencies of being decentralized. 
2. Will they put it on to the exchanges or is it only allowed on hashbase.
3. If it's not allowed on the exchanges how will its value go up.
4.  He wants it to "change the world" but getting people outside of GAW/Zen to accept another new coin will be hard when bitcoin already has an established community and especially when it can only be mined with Prime hashlets. 

Look at all the altcoins that have come and gone and there are maybe a few that have really gone anywhere and doge probably would of never made it without the Reddit community.

[welchy8764]

Was shadow banned last night for questioning all the Hype on the new coin.. WTF.. There is something fishy going on. I have been with GAW 6 months and sold all my primes. You watch!! The story will change tomorrow.. The white paper was to be released which will give everyone the real story(at least I hope). This is 1st time I really have to question motives of the CEO.. The postings all over the site about "ALL in" etc. etc.. really should be addressed by CEO as not advised because of the nature of the business. This smells bad..

These are the 4 things I want to know right now about hashcoin

HashCoin just makes no sense to me for what Josh is promising.  
1. He wants it to be bigger than BitCoin, but how can it be if it will be completely controlled by GAW which goes against the fundamentals of cryptocurrencies of being decentralized.  
2. Will they put it on to the exchanges or is it only allowed on hashbase.
3. If it's not allowed on the exchanges how will its value go up.
4.  He wants it to "change the world" but getting people outside of GAW/Zen to accept another new coin will be hard when bitcoin already has an established community and especially when it can only be mined with Prime hashlets.  

Look at all the altcoins that have come and gone and there are maybe a few that have really gone anywhere and doge probably would of never made it without the Reddit community.

I want to know specifics

how do they know the value of the coin?- to shoot a number like 250,000,000 dollars is nuts. There is currently no why to transform hashpoints to anything. So everyone mining the hashpool is going on faith the points will be converted to hashcoin. right now GAW is setting value at .01 per point. In order to have a real value it needs to be traded on an exchange. There is no way it will become that valuable overnight. Why hasn't any retailers announced an alliance with GAW? Why is he releasing the biggest announcement in crypto at 2 am on a Tuesday morning? What happened to Zenpool (The most profitable pool ever)? He has so many ridiculous statements its hard to keep track anymore.. Thats the M-O create chaos and ban the people who question the insanity of it all. On- and On and ON...

[Slark]

New coin is certainly interesting idea. It can be something huge if GAW's is doing it. For now I will watch it closely and see what happens. Maybe invest some money to try it out.

[NeonTranceBadger]

Was shadow banned last night for questioning all the Hype on the new coin.. WTF.. There is something fishy going on. I have been with GAW 6 months and sold all my primes. You watch!! The story will change tomorrow.. The white paper was to be released which will give everyone the real story(at least I hope). This is 1st time I really have to question motives of the CEO.. The postings all over the site about "ALL in" etc. etc.. really should be addressed by CEO as not advised because of the nature of the business. This smells bad..

These are the 4 things I want to know right now about hashcoin

HashCoin just makes no sense to me for what Josh is promising. 
1. He wants it to be bigger than BitCoin, but how can it be if it will be completely controlled by GAW which goes against the fundamentals of cryptocurrencies of being decentralized. 
2. Will they put it on to the exchanges or is it only allowed on hashbase.
3. If it's not allowed on the exchanges how will its value go up.
4.  He wants it to "change the world" but getting people outside of GAW/Zen to accept another new coin will be hard when bitcoin already has an established community and especially when it can only be mined with Prime hashlets. 

Look at all the altcoins that have come and gone and there are maybe a few that have really gone anywhere and doge probably would of never made it without the Reddit community.

I want to know specifics

how do they know the value of the coin?- to shoot a number like 250,000,000 dollars is nuts. There is currently no why to transform hashpoints to anything. So everyone mining the hashpool is going on faith the points will be converted to hashcoin. right now GAW is setting value at .01 per point. In order to have a real value it needs to be traded on an exchange. There is no way it will become that valuable overnight. Why hasn't any retailers announced an alliance with GAW? Why is he releasing the biggest announcement in crypto at 2 am on a Tuesday morning? What happened to Zenpool (The most profitable pool ever)? He has so many ridiculous statements its hard to keep track anymore.. Thats the M-O create chaos and ban the people who question the who insanity of it all. On- and On and ON...

Josh did announce he was going to meet with the Cryptsy people and HashTalk was speculating a buy out, but I think if that happened people would leave Cryptsy cause everything would be GAW this, GAW that and people would get tired of that.  But if it isn't traded on any exchange how would these companies he says they are working with make money off of HashCoin.  The fact that ZenPools payouts are based off of contracts is really concerning.  

[bitcoinnoisseur]

Was shadow banned last night for questioning all the Hype on the new coin.. WTF.. There is something fishy going on. I have been with GAW 6 months and sold all my primes. You watch!! The story will change tomorrow.. The white paper was to be released which will give everyone the real story(at least I hope). This is 1st time I really have to question motives of the CEO.. The postings all over the site about "ALL in" etc. etc.. really should be addressed by CEO as not advised because of the nature of the business. This smells bad..

Does anyone actually believe that GAW has been in contact with such large companies as Josh has suggested(Target/Walmart/Amazon/Macy’s) and that Hashcoin will have anything even close to a 250 million market cap and that somehow all of this has been kept quiet throughout the crypto-currency(cc) world. I suggest they have been in contact with very few small companies that already do some business with bitcoin or other cc's and maybe, maybe it will have a 2.5 million cap.

EDIT: I just got shadow banned myself for ripping into the most delusional, koolaid drinking fanboy(bigdoo23) I had ever seen on HT. I think hes blowing Josh. lol.  

READ WHAT THIS MINDLESS FOOL POSTED. IT"S HILARIOUS BESIDES BEING SO SAD:

-Let's be a part of History!!! (there will be stories to tell your kids and grandkids how you became rich)

-I got the GAWfever!

-EXACTLY!!! I have had nothing but POSITIVE experiences with the @GAW-Staff and @GAW_CEO! If there were any issues I just created a ticket and I was ALWAYS contacted by customer service, mostly very quickly. So I just get pissed off when I read people's comments about badmouthing the company, calling it a scam etc. Like if you don't like it and have nothing nice to say then get the F out! We don't need deconstructive people on this forum.

-P.S. for you @GAW_CEO if you need help advertising just send me some cool HashCoin shirts, I am 7 feet tall and turn heads everywhere I go, think about the possibilities Josh, a walking billboard :grinning:
I wear XXL Tall by the way :wink:
Hash On!!!

Natasha - Would you put Gaw a tat on your forhead for X amount of hashlets?? hahhaa
but would you?

@Natasha Hahhaahahaha I can't even handle you right now hahaha
But to answer your question, if I would receive enough Prime Power to put me ahead of Craig on the Champions list (about 15,000 MH) then I would consider wearing the Hash logo on my forehead! hahahaha I think if people would see me wearing a Hashlet shirt and tat they would think it is a name and logo for a basketball team I play for, or the name of the main sponsor.. hahaha

[knowhow]

first point income from pools changes as bitcoins moves... soo stop crying
when you go to market buy something the price always changes soo stop  
 
about new coin,well if hash community support it and some new partners even being control i mean 5 ph hardware.... who knows if they are from those new coin.... if it will set as bitcoins unlimited mining ,my guess is they will mine new coin with those hardware.... and they can maybe limit the mining speed i mean like for day only 18ph mining avaible  soo  if they get in with 12ph or more i dont know how much power they have free miners will be able to get in too,as bitcoin who enter first on the begining paid 2 or 5 dollars for unit if they hold them nowadyas worth 300 dollars..... soo this will be an opportunity for first people getting in soo we will get in at begining....soo if coin will start at 0,001 dollars december it can go to 0,01 dollars on 2015 as the coins ammount you have you can make 10x investment... soo think 1000 dollars with new coin and sell it at 0.01 it will boost to 10000 soo 9000 proof .... for sure they will allow a market and maybe the currency will the hashcoin ,we will need to buy them with bitcoin or even real money and the market and who knows if they set a market as CEX,io has trading platafform allowing to crypto trades.... soo will bang and hit the industry.... stop think down we will go higher.... i bet primes will reach 100 dollars..... as they should only allow to mine this new coin with them..... soo no hardware....to get in ,all will have to invest on them to be able to boost ROI..... otherwise may get in to buy and sell market that will take some time to be put on sale as if sell too soon will lost money and is keep it can rise soo who didnt invest on begining will lost the oportunity to make eay ROI


Now the point is there is an limited prime power ,5ph maybe can be the others new primes power that will be for sale .... imagine.....