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November 30, 2014, 06:39:08 PM
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Is it possible to create a chart that shows where the network rate is coming from?  Pools or large solo miner?  Very curious if the sudden increased difficulty is due to a data center or growth of community.

When it suddenly started growing ~10days ago, I wrote an IRC bot for this. The diff was roughly 5000TB. First it was about 50TB day up until 250TB/day and now it seems to stabilished at roughly 8PB (2 days average).

Code:
18:23 <AGENTSMITH> katu: Past 1 day(s), out of 8214TB -- burstpool 908TB [11%, 32 miners] 
-- kokopool 340TB [4%, 13 miners] -- solo 5257TB [64%, 7 miners]
-- devpool 1502TB [18%, 41 miners] -- forumpool 187TB [2%, 6 miners]
-- PCFiLpool 23TB [0%, 1 miners] --

Solo used to be like 45%, now is 65%. The new hashpower seems to be divided 65%/35% solo/pool, with devlpool seeing highest increase. This is all guess work and may be not what is really happening.

Also, orphan rate (up to 3 blocks deep) started appearing more often, possibly due to races caused by wild difficulty readjustments. Current 24 blocks average BURST uses is insufficient to cover the variance involved (numbers start making sense at ~100 blocks). I'm currently investigating how to visualize the orphan blocks.
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November 30, 2014, 07:14:01 PM
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realy guys,right now some things happens with burst.Before I found about 1 block/day with my 16 tb,but now I have no blocks found in 5 days,and diff is still going up.wtf is going there?Does google started to mine burst right now? Grin

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November 30, 2014, 07:39:30 PM
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Guys say please, all have reduction extraction on V2 pool.. the last few days??

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November 30, 2014, 07:48:22 PM
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[miner]

update miner-burst-1.141129  (most of the changes to Dev's V2 pool) 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9jln37qbyw67oe4/miner-burst-1.141129.zip?dl=0

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Thanks  Smiley For testing purpose, I ran a beta-version of this on dev's v2 pool for 24 hours. Don't really know how many TBs + I had a couple of hours downtime, but in 24h I received 14770 bursts. During that time I found one block, so it was a nice result compared to solo-mining.

Sending the 14K as a donation to you of course.  Smiley

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November 30, 2014, 08:22:35 PM
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And we have new record... Pretty solid growth!


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November 30, 2014, 09:12:49 PM
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i have this error with latest blago miner release...
"share lost due the new block"
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passfhare is for different account?Huh

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November 30, 2014, 09:26:53 PM
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Is it possible to create a chart that shows where the network rate is coming from?  Pools or large solo miner?  Very curious if the sudden increased difficulty is due to a data center or growth of community.

When it suddenly started growing ~10days ago, I wrote an IRC bot for this. The diff was roughly 5000TB. First it was about 50TB day up until 250TB/day and now it seems to stabilished at roughly 8PB (2 days average).

Code:
18:23 <AGENTSMITH> katu: Past 1 day(s), out of 8214TB -- burstpool 908TB [11%, 32 miners] 
-- kokopool 340TB [4%, 13 miners] -- solo 5257TB [64%, 7 miners]
-- devpool 1502TB [18%, 41 miners] -- forumpool 187TB [2%, 6 miners]
-- PCFiLpool 23TB [0%, 1 miners] --

Solo used to be like 45%, now is 65%. The new hashpower seems to be divided 65%/35% solo/pool, with devlpool seeing highest increase. This is all guess work and may be not what is really happening.

Also, orphan rate (up to 3 blocks deep) started appearing more often, possibly due to races caused by wild difficulty readjustments. Current 24 blocks average BURST uses is insufficient to cover the variance involved (numbers start making sense at ~100 blocks). I'm currently investigating how to visualize the orphan blocks.

Good info.
What's # of miners?  burstpool has 11% with 32 miners and solo has 64% with 7 miners?
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November 30, 2014, 10:45:17 PM
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The most stable and profitable pool by far, for regular users, is dev's v2, with dcct's miner (linux) or Blago's upcoming new miner (win). ETA for the latter, I think later today.

If you have a lot of TBs, like +30, uray's SG pool is the most profitable.

hy mmmmaybe

can you explain how do you do this statistic???

i have 12TB....

which pool do you think it is the better???
dev V2???

or urays US o SG?

thanks!

Of course it's big variances/luck factor when making such statements, but I have tested all major pools with both windows and linux quite extensively. The only data I was missing was dev's v2 pool on windows (to use java isn't fair). Since I beta-tested Blago's new miner, I could mine there for several days, until his fixed some bugs. Finally I could use a version very similar to the one released today, and factoring in increased diff and minor miner bugs, I got more coins at dev's v2 pool than on the others.

Uray's SG pool is different than, e.g. koko's or his own US pool. The award calculations are made in such a way that it benefits miners with larger capacity than those with a few TBs. Big payouts are given to the guys contributing the most; payments are often several thousand. His US pool, on the other hand, give smaller payments but quite often instead. However, recently uray is using new pool code in beta-phase, which unfortunately effected performance negativity (since a few days thinks look much better though).

Crowetic has changed his award calculations to be more similar to the SG pool, which I think is great.

As I have rather big mining capacity, on several accounts, the most most profitable pool for me was uray's SG - before the changes in the code/beta phase. However, the fact that dev's pool uses limit for deadline it also benefits miners with more capacity, as they will have a lot more of sub-200k share than those with less.

This also means that which pool is "the best" will vary given how much you are mining with. For regular users uray's US pool or koko's might be the best choice.

Regarding stability, all major pools have reported problems, but dev's has done that only a few times.

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November 30, 2014, 11:18:53 PM
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Good info.
What's # of miners?  burstpool has 11% with 32 miners and solo has 64% with 7 miners?

It's the number of unique miners who found at least one block for sample period (the number is incorrect for solo - it reports number of miners with reward assignment to unidentified pools. For listed pools it is accurate). It's a better measure of miner diversity than "total miners in a pool" - while there are 300 miners in some pool, most of them are small to the point of statistical insignificance.

As for the TB sizes, the script only uses current reward assignments, which is incorrect when miner switches pool often, once I rewrite it to be as accurate as possible (must parse whole blockchain history), I'll put it online somewhere.
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December 01, 2014, 01:32:10 AM
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now without a shadow of a doubt buying at 100 150 sat is much more profitable than mining. If this continue to grow , buying at 200 sat would be better than buying hardware to mine.
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Just some network size graph (auto-updating)



https://bchain.info/BURST/graph/small
https://bchain.info/BURST/graph/medium
https://bchain.info/BURST/graph
https://bchain.info/BURST/graph/large

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December 01, 2014, 05:18:54 AM
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Just some network size graph (auto-updating)



https://bchain.info/BURST/graph

Feel free to use/embed it as you like

Looks very cool !
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December 01, 2014, 05:36:23 AM
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Something wrong with US pool. No payout since 18 hours  Undecided
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December 01, 2014, 06:31:48 AM
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Something wrong with US pool. No payout since 18 hours  Undecided

u will see 24 hours no payout very soon. Difficulty going up. Pool finding less block to payout
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December 01, 2014, 06:52:28 AM
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Perhaps big boys mining and buying coin at the same time. Maybe preparing for a good pump.
Doing a good pump requires getting big market share so that there isn't much people can dump when price get high.
There are 318 mil BURST in circulation, its more than enough for dumping now.

now without a shadow of a doubt buying at 100 150 sat is much more profitable than mining. If this continue to grow , buying at 200 sat would be better than buying hardware to mine.
More profitable comparing with what? With subsequent sale at 100 sat?   Cheesy
There is only 16% of all BURST supply in circulation right now, so price will decline, at least till 50% of supply will be reached.






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December 01, 2014, 07:28:48 AM
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Perhaps big boys mining and buying coin at the same time. Maybe preparing for a good pump.
Doing a good pump requires getting big market share so that there isn't much people can dump when price get high.
There are 318 mil BURST in circulation, its more than enough for dumping now.

now without a shadow of a doubt buying at 100 150 sat is much more profitable than mining. If this continue to grow , buying at 200 sat would be better than buying hardware to mine.
More profitable comparing with what? With subsequent sale at 100 sat?&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Cheesy
There is only 16% of all BURST supply in circulation right now, so price will decline, at least till 50% of supply will be reached.

If u read my earlier post u will understand what I meant.
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December 01, 2014, 08:12:45 AM
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The estimated network size has almost doubled in the past few days. No wonder payouts are or very close to 0.. Looks like some big datacenters are rolling out burst mining to gain some extra income.

Hmm even the pools are having a struggle to find blocks and get some payouts.
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December 01, 2014, 08:35:29 AM
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now without a shadow of a doubt buying at 100 150 sat is much more profitable than mining. If this continue to grow , buying at 200 sat would be better than buying hardware to mine.
Short term yes, long term.. setting up a miner now would probably be more profitable.

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December 01, 2014, 08:38:02 AM
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The estimated network size has almost doubled in the past few days. No wonder payouts are or very close to 0.. Looks like some big datacenters are rolling out burst mining to gain some extra income.

Hmm even the pools are having a struggle to find blocks and get some payouts.

i think this is the first time who solo miners are biggest than pool miners...

i think one or more datacenter are in the game now...

for the latest 4 or 5Pb network size increase there are not other explanations.
we just have to see if it will be a permanent increase or temporary.

waiting to see...

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Maybe somebody hacked network? Its unreal situation!
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