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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2170901 times)
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April 24, 2015, 04:22:49 AM
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I get for all listed accounts at burst.ninja:

https://block.burstcoin.info/acc.php?acc=BURST-undefined

When I click on my account ( BURST-GVDF-8G3T-AVUV-D44NG ) I go to https://block.burstcoin.info/acc.php?acc=BURST-GVDF-8G3T-AVUV-D44NG

But as I said, burstcoin.info is down currently. If I take my account ID and instead go to burstcoin.eu  and enter my address, I go to

http://burstcoin.eu/address/13209130496096169325

where I can see all the payments from burst.ninja to me, and my transfers over to my centralized account.


BTW Elmit - the link to the Singapore Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau ( http://app.cpib.gov.sg/cpib_new/user/default.aspx?pgID=21&action=clear ) seems to be down. Do you happen to have another link or Dept. I can report you to ? )

Thanks.

H.


I am sorry, I cannot help you with that.
Did you check your blood pressure? lol

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April 24, 2015, 04:34:01 AM
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H.

I get the feeling you do not like me, by attacking only me and somehow you are saying contradicting things, like:


No, I do not like you - as I said I consider you a cancer on the BurstCoin community. However, nothing I've said is contradictory, and I'll go after any other cancers like you.

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You claim that ALL Uray based pools have an error and do not pay out. Now you say, only my pool does not pay out.

Uray says the payout code is broken. I say only your pool fails to display claimed payouts.

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You say others do have a link, but I can confirm, that none has a working link. I removed mine too, to be equal.

Hmmmm - cryptomining.farm does. I didn't check any others, but seeing as one does - you're wrong/lying.

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Well, if I go to the smallest pool on your list
I really try hard to verify what you are saying, but fail. I might be to stupid, or to tired of carrying 4 tons of books during my moving.
It is therefore always good to have some debuggers, like you, who find things out, I never thought of, like that somebody uses multiple miners on the same IP. That was brilliant! Could it be that this is a public IP (Firewall)? and somebody is running a private network behind? Like an ISP? Or maybe it is an Internet cafe, that would explain the small amounts of mining.

So four of your miners happen to be carrying around their burst mining rigs and all somehow coincidently managed to end up at the same Ukranian internet cafe? You have to be fucking kidding me - right ?

I'm so glad you appreciate people like me checking up on your pool. Now if only you would address all the problems found by people like me.

Elmit - your pool is either accidently or deliberately stealing from your miners.
Your "asset" is not paying out, or replying to investors.
You're being sued for fraud. BTW Who do I contact to make sure this thread is included in your trial ?

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And no, there is no restriction to reply, ... you can reply as often you want, I just will not reply to all.

No help on who is the proper authority to report you to ?




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April 24, 2015, 04:48:46 AM
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H.

I get the feeling you do not like me, by attacking only me and somehow you are saying contradicting things, like:


No, I do not like you - as I said I consider you a cancer on the BurstCoin community. However, nothing I've said is contradictory, and I'll go after any other cancers like you.

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You claim that ALL Uray based pools have an error and do not pay out. Now you say, only my pool does not pay out.

Uray says the payout code is broken. I say only your pool fails to display claimed payouts.

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You say others do have a link, but I can confirm, that none has a working link. I removed mine too, to be equal.

Hmmmm - cryptomining.farm does. I didn't check any others, but seeing as one does - you're wrong/lying.

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Well, if I go to the smallest pool on your list
I really try hard to verify what you are saying, but fail. I might be to stupid, or to tired of carrying 4 tons of books during my moving.
It is therefore always good to have some debuggers, like you, who find things out, I never thought of, like that somebody uses multiple miners on the same IP. That was brilliant! Could it be that this is a public IP (Firewall)? and somebody is running a private network behind? Like an ISP? Or maybe it is an Internet cafe, that would explain the small amounts of mining.

So four of your miners happen to be carrying around their burst mining rigs and all somehow coincidently managed to end up at the same Ukranian internet cafe? You have to be fucking kidding me - right ?

I'm so glad you appreciate people like me checking up on your pool. Now if only you would address all the problems found by people like me.

Elmit - your pool is either accidently or deliberately stealing from your miners.
Your "asset" is not paying out, or replying to investors.
You're being sued for fraud. BTW Who do I contact to make sure this thread is included in your trial ?

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And no, there is no restriction to reply, ... you can reply as often you want, I just will not reply to all.

No help on who is the proper authority to report you to ?

I tried from cryptomining.farm, just the first link:
http://burst.cryptoport.io/tx/17338833804961871513   and ...

Why do you not answer the question. Lets word it again for you, ... I typed it slow, maybe that helps:

What does it mean, when the pool has a high balance? Why do Dev pool and cryptomining.farm have a high balance?
Isn't that the earnings of the miners? Why they don't give it to them?
What is Your opinion to this?
Please stay once in a while focused to the question!

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April 24, 2015, 04:56:57 AM
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So four of your miners happen to be carrying around their burst mining rigs and all somehow coincidently managed to end up at the same Ukranian internet cafe? You have to be fucking kidding me - right ?


The IP shows it belongs to    wnet.ua
To my knowledge, they have not moved UA to Ukraine ;-)

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April 24, 2015, 04:58:22 AM
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H.

I get the feeling you do not like me, by attacking only me and somehow you are saying contradicting things, like:


No, I do not like you - as I said I consider you a cancer on the BurstCoin community. However, nothing I've said is contradictory, and I'll go after any other cancers like you.

Quote
You claim that ALL Uray based pools have an error and do not pay out. Now you say, only my pool does not pay out.

Uray says the payout code is broken. I say only your pool fails to display claimed payouts.

Quote
You say others do have a link, but I can confirm, that none has a working link. I removed mine too, to be equal.

Hmmmm - cryptomining.farm does. I didn't check any others, but seeing as one does - you're wrong/lying.

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Well, if I go to the smallest pool on your list
I really try hard to verify what you are saying, but fail. I might be to stupid, or to tired of carrying 4 tons of books during my moving.
It is therefore always good to have some debuggers, like you, who find things out, I never thought of, like that somebody uses multiple miners on the same IP. That was brilliant! Could it be that this is a public IP (Firewall)? and somebody is running a private network behind? Like an ISP? Or maybe it is an Internet cafe, that would explain the small amounts of mining.

So four of your miners happen to be carrying around their burst mining rigs and all somehow coincidently managed to end up at the same Ukranian internet cafe? You have to be fucking kidding me - right ?

I'm so glad you appreciate people like me checking up on your pool. Now if only you would address all the problems found by people like me.

Elmit - your pool is either accidently or deliberately stealing from your miners.
Your "asset" is not paying out, or replying to investors.
You're being sued for fraud. BTW Who do I contact to make sure this thread is included in your trial ?

Quote
And no, there is no restriction to reply, ... you can reply as often you want, I just will not reply to all.

No help on who is the proper authority to report you to ?

I tried from cryptomining.farm, just the first link:
http://burst.cryptoport.io/tx/17338833804961871513   and ...

Why do you not answer the question. Lets word it again for you, ... I typed it slow, maybe that helps:

What does it mean, when the pool has a high balance? Why do Dev pool and cryptomining.farm have a high balance?
Isn't that the earnings of the miners? Why they don't give it to them?
What is Your opinion to this?
Please stay once in a while focused to the question!
I have no idea or opinion on the Dev Pool and cryptomining.farm balances - ask them, I'm in no way associatedwith them

I will ask why you maintain a zero balance.

I will get you shutdown - either voluntarily, or through Singapore Fraudulent Practices.




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April 24, 2015, 05:01:19 AM
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So four of your miners happen to be carrying around their burst mining rigs and all somehow coincidently managed to end up at the same Ukranian internet cafe? You have to be fucking kidding me - right ?


The IP shows it belongs to    wnet.ua
To my knowledge, they have not moved UA to Ukraine ;-)

91.203.12.188   Ukraine    Kyyiv   Kiev   Alfa Oil Ltd.
Google Map for Kiev, Kyyiv, Ukraine (New window)

you could have just shutdown, now there will be consequences.




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April 24, 2015, 06:40:19 AM
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butstcoin, I mine solo, and today I faced an unpleasant thing in BURST wallet. After I had mined more than 100 blocks, there was “100+” instead of the exact amount of blocks in the wallet. It is very inconvenient for monitoring the statistics. Is it possible to fix it someways?


It looks like it's a pretty simple UI change to fix this issue. I created a pull request which makes this change: https://github.com/BurstProject/burstcoin/pull/16

In the meantime, you can just change "100" to "500" on line 244 and 353 of nrs.blocks.js, and reload the wallet.
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April 24, 2015, 09:04:47 AM
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H.,

I do not understand what you try to say:

1. Is it not allowed to mine on one IP with multiple users?
2. Is it not allowed to mine within a private network with multiple users?
3. Is it not allowed to mine on one hard disk with multiple users?
4. Is it not allowed to mine from UE or Kiev?
5. If you have no idea - as you stated, then why do you answer to my question? Worse, far far away from the question?

I also don't understand your question, why I maintain a zero balance. It is anyway not true, but less than 23.76% of the last day's pay out.
Is it not allowed to have a low balance? Could it be, that the pool paid out all, while other pools keep EXCESSIVE MINER's BURST in the POOL's wallet?
Why are you asking only ME about zero balance and not all other pools?

I don't think that we will shutdown so quickly! Why should we? We have a solid miner base, who are not just registered as miner, but also DO mine. The pool is working fine and your noise does not really bother, ... in fact I find it very amusing. As more you and co talk, as more miners I get.

Glad that a new pool comes up with a .ga at the end, ... I hope he makes a lots of advertisement, .... for me, because .ga are not resolved here. I just need to add: "... or mine at MiningHere", ...

I am already excited to see the new design of your pool. We also consider to do something, but without the tv testing screen. More like dev pool, simple, but working. Or just the HowTo page, ....  Stay tuned, ...

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April 24, 2015, 11:48:33 AM
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I have one question for the experts:

What of these ARM boards (see http://www.bigboardlist.com ) can be optimal/good for mining Burst with POC and next POC2 algo ?
(ps: with Linux as OS)




i have done several tests with the banana pi in combination with a port multiplier.
the biggest issue with most embedded systems is the memory bandwidth.
i did no real optimizations to the miner for the platform and the effective performance seemed to be enough to mine up to 8tb within blocktime on port multiplied slow drives.

cheap port multiplier you only get directly from china (<30$) but there wont be any specs to check if they are compatible. (eg: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-To-5-SATA-2-0-Port-Multiplier-Card-3Gbps-SATAII-Riser-card-/281143606093?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417576fb4d)

for me the most time intense part for this test setup was to compile a custom kernel with port multiplier features activated.
the banana pi driver support is one of the worst things that exist.
therefore give the cubieboard a try and report your performance ;-)  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cubieboard-1GB-ARM-Development-Board-Kit-Allwinner-A10-Cortex-A8-Linux-Mini-PC-/221310780538?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338726847a)

the only question when designing a rig is the effective costs per "minable" sata port.
lately the banana pi with one 8tb hdd attached looks best if you want to go embedded and only grow up to 36 drives.
if you plan to grow bigger have a look at new or used sas/sata jbod systems.

 


thanks for your reply,
For now I think to waiting for more details about new Poc2 algo before buy new systems...

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April 24, 2015, 12:34:52 PM
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BOUNTY!

Pool UI development/designer! (You will have to ask catbref ((pool developer)) what you will need to know in order do do this, but I know CSS is a must!)

I will offer 150k BURST from my own wallet, 150k BURST from ByteEnterprises wallet, and 2500 shares of ByteEnt asset (pays dividends monthly based off mining and the pool fee from ninja pool. Represents 2.5% of Byte Enterprises as a company.)

This is a fairly large bounty because it will be a fairly large amount of work. You can also talk to the other people who work with me and ask them how fair I am when it comes to paying people. I may throw you an extra bonus because I feel you did something extraordinary! Come be part of the Byte Enterprises team!


Thank you!


I'll add 150K to this of my own money (and I'm not part of the Byte Enterprises team nor even mining at ninja).

Crowe, if you can, post this as a separate thread so you might attract people outside the BURST community.


(i'll be back soon)


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April 24, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
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H.

I get the feeling you do not like me, by attacking only me and somehow you are saying contradicting things, like:

You claim that ALL Uray based pools have an error and do not pay out. Now you say, only my pool does not pay out.

You say others do have a link, but I can confirm, that none has a working link. I removed mine too, to be equal.

I really try hard to verify what you are saying, but fail. I might be to stupid, or to tired of carrying 4 tons of books during my moving.
It is therefore always good to have some debuggers, like you, who find things out, I never thought of, like that somebody uses multiple miners on the same IP. That was brilliant! Could it be that this is a public IP (Firewall)? and somebody is running a private network behind? Like an ISP? Or maybe it is an Internet cafe, that would explain the small amounts of mining.

And no, there is no restriction to reply, ... you can reply as often you want, I just will not reply to all.

We don't like you, but that's beside the point.

All uray code does have the bug, (inherently) however most other pools using it have fixed it. See, that's the beauty of open source code. We have been telling YOU to fix it, but you haven't even TRIED.

We all know you removed the links becuase that is all you could figure out how to do. The thing is, when our stuff goes down, we tell people, and fix it. I'm very aware of the blockex being down. Tiga handles it, and he's busy. But he will fix it, and if he doesn't in a reasonable amount of time, I can. But I prefer to let my people have full control over their projects unless I NEED to step in. I have already setup a completely new VM on my dacentec VMWare host that will be used for the blockex, as it's apparent the current VM isn't powerful or stable enough.

You know exactly what you're doing, Elmit (well, as far as the miners and money "issues" on the pool. Basically anything else, no way.) and it would be nice if you would just tell people, and quit being this way. Your stuff would be a lot better if you would just allow people to help you instead of being... well, you.




Haitch,

    I think we should just let this go now, it is clear that this fool will never change. So all we can do is let the community know and move on. No point in continuing this. Everyone can clearly see who is on top in this argument, and I'm certain that people are aware by now of his pool and asset issues. We've done what we can do, maybe now is the time to let it be? I'm not telling you what to do, merely suggesting we just let this idiot be. He's gonna continue doing the same bullshit and we know it.


edit: scratch that, screw this guy.




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April 24, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
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BOUNTY!

Pool UI development/designer! (You will have to ask catbref ((pool developer)) what you will need to know in order do do this, but I know CSS is a must!)

I will offer 150k BURST from my own wallet, 150k BURST from ByteEnterprises wallet, and 2500 shares of ByteEnt asset (pays dividends monthly based off mining and the pool fee from ninja pool. Represents 2.5% of Byte Enterprises as a company.)

This is a fairly large bounty because it will be a fairly large amount of work. You can also talk to the other people who work with me and ask them how fair I am when it comes to paying people. I may throw you an extra bonus because I feel you did something extraordinary! Come be part of the Byte Enterprises team!


Thank you!


I'll add 150K to this of my own money (and I'm not part of the Byte Enterprises team nor even mining at ninja).

Crowe, if you can, post this as a separate thread so you might attract people outside the BURST community.


(i'll be back soon)



Great, thank you brother. I was thinking that I might up it some more and add .5 BTC on top or something too, we'll see how it goes like this and then maybe add more. Bro, you SHOULD BE mining on ninja though. lol.




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So four of your miners happen to be carrying around their burst mining rigs and all somehow coincidently managed to end up at the same Ukranian internet cafe? You have to be fucking kidding me - right ?


The IP shows it belongs to    wnet.ua
To my knowledge, they have not moved UA to Ukraine ;-)

91.203.12.188   Ukraine    Kyyiv   Kiev   Alfa Oil Ltd.
Google Map for Kiev, Kyyiv, Ukraine (New window)

you could have just shutdown, now there will be consequences.

Oh wow, I didn't even see this... Come on man, really? A botnet? It makes perfect sense. He's doing like what that Timk foo supposedly did, putting miners on computers he works on... that makes total sense... for everything.



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April 24, 2015, 02:48:45 PM
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H.

I get the feeling you do not like me, by attacking only me and somehow you are saying contradicting things, like:

You claim that ALL Uray based pools have an error and do not pay out. Now you say, only my pool does not pay out.

You say others do have a link, but I can confirm, that none has a working link. I removed mine too, to be equal.

I really try hard to verify what you are saying, but fail. I might be to stupid, or to tired of carrying 4 tons of books during my moving.
It is therefore always good to have some debuggers, like you, who find things out, I never thought of, like that somebody uses multiple miners on the same IP. That was brilliant! Could it be that this is a public IP (Firewall)? and somebody is running a private network behind? Like an ISP? Or maybe it is an Internet cafe, that would explain the small amounts of mining.

And no, there is no restriction to reply, ... you can reply as often you want, I just will not reply to all.

We don't like you, but that's beside the point.

All uray code does have the bug, (inherently) however most other pools using it have fixed it. See, that's the beauty of open source code. We have been telling YOU to fix it, but you haven't even TRIED.

We all know you removed the links becuase that is all you could figure out how to do. The thing is, when our stuff goes down, we tell people, and fix it. I'm very aware of the blockex being down. Tiga handles it, and he's busy. But he will fix it, and if he doesn't in a reasonable amount of time, I can. But I prefer to let my people have full control over their projects unless I NEED to step in. I have already setup a completely new VM on my dacentec VMWare host that will be used for the blockex, as it's apparent the current VM isn't powerful or stable enough.

You know exactly what you're doing, Elmit (well, as far as the miners and money "issues" on the pool. Basically anything else, no way.) and it would be nice if you would just tell people, and quit being this way. Your stuff would be a lot better if you would just allow people to help you instead of being... well, you.




Haitch,

    I think we should just let this go now, it is clear that this fool will never change. So all we can do is let the community know and move on. No point in continuing this. Everyone can clearly see who is on top in this argument, and I'm certain that people are aware by now of his pool and asset issues. We've done what we can do, maybe now is the time to let it be? I'm not telling you what to do, merely suggesting we just let this idiot be. He's gonna continue doing the same bullshit and we know it.

edit: scratch that, screw this guy.




I could never spot ANY help, but complains from you and your team.
Even the first settings I was asking and got wrong answers. So it seems that your team is just trying to let no other pool beside yours.

If you DO know what is wrong, why not tell? I am not the only one using this code. Why not post it as an issue to git hub?
No pool has a working link to the transactions(, but I did!) And exactly THAT link was complaint on. So it is a simple fix, as you did: Remove the link!

If I know something I help, not so your team!
Any question I had was answered as: You are an idiot, you run a pool and you do not know that? THAT kind of attitude makes it impossible to fix things.

The asset script IronTiga was completely wrong. Did not fit for that kind of asset. Even the offset of the time was wrong by 21 days or so. All I do for BURST, pool has been criticized by your team. I can live with that. I prepared some surprises though.

IronTiga might be busy now, cleaning up after the earthquake, depending where he lives. I suggest to use your VM for now anyway.

So, again, read my initial question and try to give your opinion to it.

By not answering, by not telling what is wrong with Urays code, you do not make it better.

To fix something, the fact must be first seen. I could not yet "catch" such a situation. I was not at the time there, so all can be true, but I believe, based on the attitude towards me, it is more likely not true.
When I look at the pool all seems normal. So I started questioning, what if it is true, what could be a reason of not paying out.
The first thing I found is, that Uray did not count the transaction fee. If you have a few miners as I had, nothing can happen, because the preset minPayout is set to 250. That means, as long you do not have amount of miners (assuming each transaction fee is 1 Burst) plus the pool fee is less than the 250, nothing will be missed.

Further, it should not happen, because the next round pay out keeps a part for the next round. Therefore Never should be all paid out!

Next was to look at other pools balance. Again, assuming that Urays code is trying to pay and could not I thought it might be that the balance is too less.
So I came to the question. Why some pools have balance close to zero, some have excess above the daily mining. Both values seems for me not right.

My conclusion is: If more quality miners are mining, always new rewards flow in and you will not come close to zero.

I am not putting my head in the sand. I am listening, but could not find any solid evidence others than hear say.


And get back in time and think when it started! Why, out of the blue, IronTiga slammed PetaByte? What do you expect to do? Just let this happen, or just look at other assets?

Honestly, I do not care if you like me or not! Lol!
However, I gave up to tell you when I see something wrong on your pool, because it is just taken the wrong way.


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April 24, 2015, 03:27:31 PM
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Currently each scoop is 64 bytes - or 512 bits - long. Lets assume you brute force 16 bits of each, thats 65536 hashes per nonce the gpu needs to do - leaving 496 bits to store. You´d be able to store 3% more nonces, at the cost of massive CPU/GPU load.
The long scoop length is an effective protection against this "hack", I hope its not going to be changed drastically with poc2.
Unfortunately, it is. PoC2 is simply hash reversal table (the task is "find a number which hashes to target decided by network"). Current implementation uses between 24 to 32 bits. Making it larger is very difficult without resorting to non-linear tricks (DLP, or the hash arena of current PoC).

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In my opinion the number of scoops should be increased (to 16 * 4096 maybe), the scoop size reduced to 32 bytes - that would total in 2MB of disk space per nonce and 16MB/TB to be read each block, at a VERY LOW cpu load. Energy efficiency is the main selling point of BURST, don´t give up on that.
Yes, it can be a bit reshuffled. Note that more than 4096 scoops presents additional challenge when plotting, but other than that it works. Also, PoC is currently fairly difficult to verify (you need to do the whole hash arena thing to check a single nonce).

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5. High blocktime variance
Due to the high amount of diskspace used per nonce, the total amount of nonces checked per block is very low compared to PoW coins. This leads to higher variance in block times.

In my opinion this is not the reason for higher block time variance. Coins with "slow" pow-algorithms like scrypt-jane don´t have this problem either.

In fact, basetarget may be adjusting too fast.

Yes, jumpy target is always related to insufficient number of samples averaged (current retarget algo AND using small portion of scoops both contribute to this). It remains to be seen if jumpy target in and itself is a problem though - save for faulty implementations which miscalculated the average and it was possible to drive down the difficulty, there were no exploits to this date.
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April 24, 2015, 04:42:01 PM
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BOUNTY!

Pool UI development/designer! (You will have to ask catbref ((pool developer)) what you will need to know in order do do this, but I know CSS is a must!)

I will offer 150k BURST from my own wallet, 150k BURST from ByteEnterprises wallet, and 2500 shares of ByteEnt asset (pays dividends monthly based off mining and the pool fee from ninja pool. Represents 2.5% of Byte Enterprises as a company.)

This is a fairly large bounty because it will be a fairly large amount of work. You can also talk to the other people who work with me and ask them how fair I am when it comes to paying people. I may throw you an extra bonus because I feel you did something extraordinary! Come be part of the Byte Enterprises team!


Thank you!


I'll add 150K to this of my own money (and I'm not part of the Byte Enterprises team nor even mining at ninja).

Crowe, if you can, post this as a separate thread so you might attract people outside the BURST community.


(i'll be back soon)


+50k  from me for your pool upgrade send me your account
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Last edit: April 24, 2015, 05:53:21 PM by coinits
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I have put Elmit on ignore. He is a thief and not a very bright one at that. I suggest that you all do the same to keep this community a more pleasant experience. He has been exposed. People need to do their due diligence and should figure it out now.

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April 24, 2015, 05:19:49 PM
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BOUNTY!

Pool UI development/designer! (You will have to ask catbref ((pool developer)) what you will need to know in order do do this, but I know CSS is a must!)

I will offer 150k BURST from my own wallet, 150k BURST from ByteEnterprises wallet, and 2500 shares of ByteEnt asset (pays dividends monthly based off mining and the pool fee from ninja pool. Represents 2.5% of Byte Enterprises as a company.)

This is a fairly large bounty because it will be a fairly large amount of work. You can also talk to the other people who work with me and ask them how fair I am when it comes to paying people. I may throw you an extra bonus because I feel you did something extraordinary! Come be part of the Byte Enterprises team!


Thank you!


I'll add 150K to this of my own money (and I'm not part of the Byte Enterprises team nor even mining at ninja).

Crowe, if you can, post this as a separate thread so you might attract people outside the BURST community.


(i'll be back soon)

+50k  from me for your pool upgrade send me your account

Just making the quote correct Smiley we are with you, bro!


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BOUNTY!

Pool UI development/designer! (You will have to ask catbref ((pool developer)) what you will need to know in order do do this, but I know CSS is a must!)

I will offer 150k BURST from my own wallet, 150k BURST from ByteEnterprises wallet, and 2500 shares of ByteEnt asset (pays dividends monthly based off mining and the pool fee from ninja pool. Represents 2.5% of Byte Enterprises as a company.)

This is a fairly large bounty because it will be a fairly large amount of work. You can also talk to the other people who work with me and ask them how fair I am when it comes to paying people. I may throw you an extra bonus because I feel you did something extraordinary! Come be part of the Byte Enterprises team!


Thank you!


I'll add 150K to this of my own money (and I'm not part of the Byte Enterprises team nor even mining at ninja).

Crowe, if you can, post this as a separate thread so you might attract people outside the BURST community.


(i'll be back soon)

+50k  from me for your pool upgrade send me your account

Just making the quote correct Smiley we are with you, bro!



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April 24, 2015, 05:35:47 PM
Last edit: April 24, 2015, 09:17:01 PM by callmejack
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Currently each scoop is 64 bytes - or 512 bits - long. Lets assume you brute force 16 bits of each, thats 65536 hashes per nonce the gpu needs to do - leaving 496 bits to store. You´d be able to store 3% more nonces, at the cost of massive CPU/GPU load.
The long scoop length is an effective protection against this "hack", I hope its not going to be changed drastically with poc2.
Unfortunately, it is. PoC2 is simply hash reversal table (the task is "find a number which hashes to target decided by network"). Current implementation uses between 24 to 32 bits. Making it larger is very difficult without resorting to non-linear tricks (DLP, or the hash arena of current PoC).

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In my opinion the number of scoops should be increased (to 16 * 4096 maybe), the scoop size reduced to 32 bytes - that would total in 2MB of disk space per nonce and 16MB/TB to be read each block, at a VERY LOW cpu load. Energy efficiency is the main selling point of BURST, don´t give up on that.
Yes, it can be a bit reshuffled. Note that more than 4096 scoops presents additional challenge when plotting, but other than that it works. Also, PoC is currently fairly difficult to verify (you need to do the whole hash arena thing to check a single nonce).

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5. High blocktime variance
Due to the high amount of diskspace used per nonce, the total amount of nonces checked per block is very low compared to PoW coins. This leads to higher variance in block times.

In my opinion this is not the reason for higher block time variance. Coins with "slow" pow-algorithms like scrypt-jane don´t have this problem either.

In fact, basetarget may be adjusting too fast.

Yes, jumpy target is always related to insufficient number of samples averaged (current retarget algo AND using small portion of scoops both contribute to this). It remains to be seen if jumpy target in and itself is a problem though - save for faulty implementations which miscalculated the average and it was possible to drive down the difficulty, there were no exploits to this date.

increasing the amount of work to verify a nonce should be for the average wallet user no real issue since there will also be checkpoints added.
for pools this may turn into a big challenge since most current pools seem to have already issues with the nonce verification under high load.
i tested it out and can say all pools except the dev2 one have them (if you run one of them pm me to share info about).

still with poc2 there have computations to be done on pool side. every modification to the amount of work to verify the submitted results tends to dramatically increase the running costs on pool side (even if technical design flaws have been fixed in the pool code).
my assumption for what a pool owner gets in fees is something about 2.5m burst per year (combined past and furture block rewards).
this means at current prices it is really tough to not pay the server costs out of the own pocket.
for long term this is a really bad perspective since developing and hosting a site is almost more than a fulltime job (24/7).
burst itself requires a good mining support to create blocks and confirm transactions with them.
since the current diff level is much too high for miners with only a couple of hdds burst requires a way for these people to get some coins for their attempts to mine a block.

from techical perspective submitted nonces are used to distribute the mined coins to the miner and the pool submits the best nonce into the blockchain if a block is mined. this concept is simply cloned from pow coins without inventing something on the engineering level burst itself has.
what if the miners can submit their own blocks into the blockchain and the miners wallet sends a signed message about history nonces over the blockchain to the pool?
it wont be spamming the blockchain with useless messages. it would make use of blockchain technology (for which fees get payed) and enable individuals to simply team up their resources in a completely secure anonymous way. since this would be a distributed pool there wont be a single point of failure during mining.

what about a distributed pool feature as next big announcement? does any coin has one?

i already thought of simply doing this using the at technology but it makes only sense for big miners due to the code execution fees.
since all miners i know personally have enough tb to mine solo we don't need to develop anything at current diff levels.
in theory the new feature would only require to send out 8 byte for each block as message to the pool address. this results in running costs of 12-13 burst a day for each miner.
on pool side all messages would be collected and for each miner there would be a maximum of one nonce for each block to verify if the signed message wont be sufficient.
the tricky part which requires development within the wallet is to secure the funds for the pool.
with the current reward assignment implementation a miner cannot submit the block to the network.
i have no suggestion for how to integrate/do this but i think a few additional functions should be sufficient to archive all this.
for the miner the main difference would be that they require a synced wallet even for pool mining or rely on a online wallet to which the access may be sold in the burst market.

anyone thinks this does make sense or is total rubbish?


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