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May 12, 2015, 07:45:28 AM
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I really enjoy to read this forum topic every day. BURST cant die this easy with so many "idiots" support him Tongue
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May 12, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
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Disclosing the content of any private message without getting permission to do so is something that I consider to be rather "poor behaviour" but if you are going to do so it should be at least accurate.

So let me state publicly that we have already worked out a variation of the ACCT that would be helpful in making it very hard to track funds being transferred between blockchains assuming enough such transfers (of the same amounts) were taking place. The method was outlined on this forum in a topic that I ended up locking due to it being spammed.

To be clear there is simply no point though in us (the CIYAM AT team) focusing on that until the initial ACCT has been published and we have had sufficient feedback to make it as "user friendly" as we can.

If @vbcs is interested in taking up the offer then perhaps create a CF AT for funding the creation of this special ACCT variation and I would perhaps also suggest that a "mixer" AT could be developed as well (that is designed just for moving fixed amounts between different accounts on the one blockchain).

With CIYAM anyone can create 100% generated C++ web applications in literally minutes.

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May 12, 2015, 08:50:02 AM
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CIYAM sent me a message, he's like he coded AT, and is unhappy that nobody is using it. He is still the best candidate for the job, if he wants to take it.
maybe at 10M he will change his mind Smiley

I reckon one of the major stumbling blocks is that you have to download separate HTML files and type them into the address bar to see them.

Hardly anyone plays the AT lottery because there's no link to it from the main wallet page.
There's no easy link to see all, or search all, items in the marketplace either - you somehow have to know who is selling and then type in their address!
Ditto the crowdfunding.

We need an HTML/JS/jQuery/CSS person to integrate these pages into the main wallet.
Anyone have those skills? Burst available to see it happen...
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May 12, 2015, 09:02:38 AM
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I reckon one of the major stumbling blocks is that you have to download separate HTML files and type them into the address bar to see them.

Agreed and the major focus of the AT project (after we have released AT on Qora and published the ACCT) is to create a UI generator for ATs which will be able to automatically construct UI.

With CIYAM anyone can create 100% generated C++ web applications in literally minutes.

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May 12, 2015, 11:27:51 AM
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Now now mates. We should all tone down our temper a bit. There is no need for this pointless bickering BURST is not dead, not even close.

Burstdev is alive and well, still working on BURST. Our dear CIYAM devs are working on AT to the betterment of us all.

PR has stalled a bit lately to be honest, however we expect to pick our activities up very soon.

Stay tuned mates!

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May 12, 2015, 11:41:43 AM
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Now now mates. We should all tone down our temper a bit. There is no need for this pointless bickering BURST is not dead, not even close.

Burstdev is alive and well, still working on BURST. Our dear CIYAM devs are working on AT to the betterment of us all.

PR has stalled a bit lately to be honest, however we expect to pick our activities up very soon.

Stay tuned mates!

So far name calling "idiots" made me smile because its have very good definition: Idiot = man full with ideas Smiley

Forum look really full with good and creative suggestions from many users. They kinda got so mad in discussion process but its good overall we talk for it.
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May 12, 2015, 11:49:40 AM
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Hi,

I've sold some shares of my asset ByteEMini, but I haven't received burst into my account.
I cant see a transaction for it within the blockchain or my transactions list only on the asset trade history window.
Does it take a certain number of confirmations or is it held in escrow or something before the transaction completes?

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May 12, 2015, 02:19:46 PM
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Hi,

I've sold some shares of my asset ByteEMini, but I haven't received burst into my account.
I cant see a transaction for it within the blockchain or my transactions list only on the asset trade history window.
Does it take a certain number of confirmations or is it held in escrow or something before the transaction completes?


What's your wallet address?

BURST-N8KB-DKKW-9C4W-AF289
http://burstcoin.eu/address/9482343705890921001

I have found the buyers purchase transaction/s but they go from the buyers burst address to /
,but I noticed a similar process is used for other asset purchases. I may have received the funds
but I didn't notice a balance change, it was only two small purchases.

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May 12, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
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Okay, just been testing a few things.

The transactions get recorded to the block chain and the account balance changes
at (least on my purchases) this information is within the transaction details but the
burst coming in or out isn't stated like it is with ordinary payments.

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May 12, 2015, 03:23:10 PM
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Just so that everyone knows, There will be an official SSL web wallet VERY SOON. The wallet already exists, and the SSL cert has been made, we're implementing it soon.

The link is here (and honestly, SSL doesn't really matter, it will be there mostly to make people happy. There is no need for SSL on BURST wallets.)

http://wallet.burst.city:8125

Also note the domain, burst.city. This domain will soon be the home of many exciting projects.

Thank you!



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May 12, 2015, 05:29:47 PM
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Sorry for the sarcasm.

But how many people will further post here what we gonna have soon?

People post when its available!!!!
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May 12, 2015, 05:44:44 PM
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aww...looks like I missed a good buying opportunity Sad oh well, my buy order is waiting for the next dump Cheesy

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May 12, 2015, 06:26:45 PM
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Sorry for the sarcasm.

But how many people will further post here what we gonna have soon?

People post when its available!!!!

it IS available. see? http://wallet.burst.city:8125


SSL isn't necessary, but people bitch if it isn't implemented.


once again, SSL isn't necessary. We are doing it anyway, but it IS NOT NECESSARY.



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May 12, 2015, 06:40:18 PM
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Sorry for the sarcasm.

But how many people will further post here what we gonna have soon?

People post when its available!!!!

here is something which is also "available".

i already offered my mysql "blockchain copy framework" to develop websites with many pages back.

the way it works is this simple:
-you need a webserver with enabled cronjobs
-the server has to have api access to a wallet
-the cronjob triggers every minute a php script which populates the mysql database with blockchaindata
-from this point on your web application can directly read blockchain data from a mysql database
-if you require certain data extractions these can simply be added

if anyone wants to create some killer web application with it send me a pm and i share it (last time nobody showed interest for it).

simple applications i currently can think of would be these:
-"send me a email" if i received a messgage on the blockchain
-"send me a email if" i have mined a block
-"send me a email if" my asset order went through (some db mods required to have this in indexed access)
-extended mining stats (eg. the averaged block reward a miner got)
-exchange deposits and withdrawal analysis
-generic triggers for blockchain events (message content driven (gambling services), AT monitoring)
-account monitoring by email ( realizing my account got emptied ;-) or i received coins )
-multi account portfolio overviews ( some adjustments for performance reasons to the db would be required )


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May 12, 2015, 06:50:24 PM
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So, let's be honest here.  This coin is a total pain in the rear to set up mining.  People already have their GPU/CPU Miners set up and that is actually fairly simple to do.  The fact that there are so many steps to get a miner functional with this coin equals a huge loss that this coin could have if the set up was a bit easier.  I for one am fairly knowledgeable with computers and I find setting this coin up to be mined, honestly a waste of time because of the amount of steps to get it working.  Just my 2 cents.

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Last edit: May 12, 2015, 08:38:36 PM by mmmaybe
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Just so that everyone knows, There will be an official SSL web wallet VERY SOON. The wallet already exists, and the SSL cert has been made, we're implementing it soon.

The link is here (and honestly, SSL doesn't really matter, it will be there mostly to make people happy. There is no need for SSL on BURST wallets.)

http://wallet.burst.city:8125

Also note the domain, burst.city. This domain will soon be the home of many exciting projects.

Thank you!

Very nice work with the web-wallet, my friend! But why would SSL not be necessary when it comes to BURST wallets? I do not understand... Your clients would still send a plaintext/unencrypted passphrase across the Net, and I could read that straight off if I sniff the client's traffic, right?

Perhaps I misunderstand something here, but until SSL is implemented it's insecure to use any web wallet.

EDIT: I'll suggest you'd put up a self-signed cert, although that isn't "looking" too good


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May 12, 2015, 09:24:18 PM
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Just so that everyone knows, There will be an official SSL web wallet VERY SOON. The wallet already exists, and the SSL cert has been made, we're implementing it soon.

The link is here (and honestly, SSL doesn't really matter, it will be there mostly to make people happy. There is no need for SSL on BURST wallets.)

http://wallet.burst.city:8125

Also note the domain, burst.city. This domain will soon be the home of many exciting projects.

Thank you!

Very nice work with the web-wallet, my friend! But why would SSL not be necessary when it comes to BURST wallets? I do not understand... Your clients would still send a plaintext/unencrypted passphrase across the Net, and I could read that straight off if I sniff the client's traffic, right?

Perhaps I misunderstand something here, but until SSL is implemented it's insecure to use any web wallet.

EDIT: I'll suggest you'd put up a self-signed cert, although that isn't "looking" too good



I'm having it done within the next day or so, so it doesn't matter much anyway, but burstdev has explained why it isn't necessary, and cat has sniffed packets to try to get the password without success, so it isn't necessary. But no big deal I want it to look secure anyway. Then there will be no second guessing at all.



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May 12, 2015, 09:36:47 PM
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So, let's be honest here.  This coin is a total pain in the rear to set up mining.  People already have their GPU/CPU Miners set up and that is actually fairly simple to do.  The fact that there are so many steps to get a miner functional with this coin equals a huge loss that this coin could have if the set up was a bit easier.  I for one am fairly knowledgeable with computers and I find setting this coin up to be mined, honestly a waste of time because of the amount of steps to get it working.  Just my 2 cents.

you are right.
set the fact that the main intend for average miners is to mine some coins as point and click adventure for a few days burst is totally different.
the good thing all about this is that you dont have to wait for any hardware preorders and people learned how things work and keep mining after they managed to get their windows based rigs running 24/7 (during the first weeks the diff showed some triggered their  automatic windows updates at 3 am).
i personally only mine solo on linux without any issues and i am not familiar with the mining pipeline on windows.

if i understand the current components correctly this is the list people have to know about (my comments are added):
-java install (download)
-wallet startup (windows knowledge)
-wallet sync (blockchain filedownload, online wallet or waiting to sync)
-address generation (coin knowledge, the passphrase generates the address and there is no way to change it afterwards)
-windows storage handling (diskmanagment)
-windows timeserver (what is this? is it reliable?)
-plotter decision (java, cpu or gpu --> what is best for my rigs?)
-plotter parameters (nonce, scoops overlaps --> do exist websites to manage my files and to generate scripts?)
-plotting (this is what i only wanted to do)
-plotfile optimization (do i require to do so?)
-faucet or bought coins (i only want to pool mine to receive coins. where do i get one to set the reward assignment?)
-reward assignment (can i enter the numeric account id or can i use the BURST-XXXX address for it?)
-miner parameter (how do i tell the miner to mine with my plots for me? do i not need a pool account?)
-pool decision (where do i see which pool is best for me?)
-pool ui (where can i see that my reward assignment is set correctly?)
-pool ui (where do i see how much i get each day?)
-can i simply switch to solo or another pool if a pool is currently down or under ddos?

i personally think i know most answers to my questions in the above list but it was a learning process till there.

during the last couple of month i thought of simply putting some sort of ui together but the more i thought about it the more it made no sense cause the ui would be much too complex to be a big help for the average miner.

i would like to see the future development reducing the list to this:
-install the wallet
-generate a address
-tell which storage can be used
-plot in background
-create a pool account
-enter pool account into the mining system (yes pool account, the pool operator manages the first coin to set the reward recipient or holds the passphrase for the mining account and the user provides a payout address )
-monitor progress


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May 12, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
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@bitladen, you were saying that Burst will fail because it isn't distributed well enough.  The way I see it, it's far better distributed than BTC was at our size.  But by the same token, a coin(or company) is much more likely to succeed if you've got some people who are very well invested into it and have to work hard to make sure that they make money on the money they've invested.

This current dump is just bears getting off board, we'll be just fine in the long run and as you mentioned, it's great that we have an opportunity for new people who understand why POC is a big deal to come rushing in and be able to buy more.

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May 12, 2015, 10:23:32 PM
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Will this coin overtake bitcoin very doubtful will it be worth a lot probably not but with the development that has been around for it it can definitely come/stay in the top 10 altcoins. I think the coin is far from dieing. Most altcoins die because they are not unique and eventually the devs give up on it.

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He's still alive and working on some stuff.. just not posting much.  Which I don't mind.. better he works hard then spends his time reading every single message.

But you want to get more devs onboard, awesome!  Contact your local university and ask for interns.. great time of year to do it too.

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