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Burst is really cheap right now, why would you make your own coin instead of taking that time and energy and improving on Burst?
Because with the deflation rate in burst, it will die out anyway. As things are, there are big holders who mined many millions for cheap in the beginning. They can't dump all at once, there are not enough buy orders, they will even hold for a while, until the situation becomes hopeless, and then it will die, just like any other altcoin. Plus that I'm only interested in the PoC, I prefer the cryptonote platform. Sure all that assets and stuff sound good, but let's face it BTC had success because of drug trading. Anonymity is needed in the cryptoworld. The very name crypto implies anonimity. Will this coin overtake bitcoin very doubtful will it be worth a lot probably not but with the development that has been around for it it can definitely come/stay in the top 10 altcoins. I think the coin is far from dieing. Most altcoins die because they are not unique and eventually the devs give up on it.
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I think it's kinda backwards to implement anonymity with BURST, but CIYAM said it can be done with AT.
I offer a bounty: 1,000,000 BURST to anyone who implements anonymous transactions in BURST, and makes a simple enough interface for the average user. Sure 1m burst is not all that much, and being a programmer myself, I understand that this won't be enough reward for the work, however I only hold 1% of the coins, other holders could join in, so we can make a big bounty.
Anonymity will give value to the coin, it would be a good reason to buy it and sell it, other than the usual pump and dump gamble. If you hold BURST, join me, let's pay CIYAM to do it
Fuck it, I'm interested a bit just to see if this can be done neatly. I'll throw 150k at it too.
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I think it's kinda backwards to implement anonymity with BURST, but CIYAM said it can be done with AT.
I offer a bounty: 1,000,000 BURST to anyone who implements anonymous transactions in BURST, and makes a simple enough interface for the average user. Sure 1m burst is not all that much, and being a programmer myself, I understand that this won't be enough reward for the work, however I only hold 1% of the coins, other holders could join in, so we can make a big bounty.
Anonymity will give value to the coin, it would be a good reason to buy it and sell it, other than the usual pump and dump gamble. If you hold BURST, join me, let's pay CIYAM to do it
+500,000 burst from me....
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You are a complete imbecile, and have no clue about cryptocoins.
If the coin right now had 3PB what would stop me from 51% attacking it? Certainly not the high profits I would make otherwise. The miners need to get paid. With no miners the coin is nowhere near fine, it's not even a coin, it's a fairy tale. Ok burst still has miners, but that's mainly because there is no other PoC out there yet.
I still hold 9 million. You are making more and more retarded claims. The market is crashing because of me? WOW. Where did that come from? And you say the market is crashing NOW? Oh no, it's starting to be alive just now, it was dead for the past 2 months because of idiots holding to the coin, dreaming to become millionaires in 2020. They can afford to hold it though, they mined it for cheap. I will launch soon a new PoC coin with a fair block reward scheme.
But now with the recent volume on the market looks like there may still be hope for burst. Obviously, it is in my best interest that it rises.
And there are not enough buyers because there are not enough sellers. Nobody puts their money in a coin with 2 btc volume. Dump more coins and traders will join the party. Holding the coin does not make the price rise. Last 2 months illustrate this perfectly.
Why would anybody buy burst? Or dogecoin, or *coin. Simple! to sell it for more, there's no other good reason. So in fact if you dump coins to traders, they have to do something about it, to sell it for more. That's the idea.
Please, don't preach your justification at me. The fact that the coin wouldn't be worth anything if there was 3PB of hash power here. You showed up after the coin actually ended up worth something and despite dumping a lot of money into it, you only hold 10% of the network hash. You're doing more damage by dumping your mined coins then you're doing if this coin had low hash power, because you wouldn't actually mine it as it wouldn't be worth anything. It doesn't matter how much you're holding, it's how much you're dumping. There are plenty of people that are holding that have been a part of Burst for a long time and hold more coins then you. Volume doesn't mean the market is healthy. Just because it's moving doesn't mean it's moving in a good direction. More people will see it, they'll also see that it's crashing right now and has been on a downward trend for the last two months. Nobody puts money in a coin that is only going down. It'd be different if the market volume showed fluctuations of +/- 10% or something like that, but it's not. Not everyone buys coins to sell them for more. Some people believe in coins and what they're mining. The whole reason so many Burst'ers are holding their coins right now. If people were here purely for the economic aspect they would've sold already as the coin is in a nosedive and no one sees the bottom at the moment. Oh and anyone can throw out insults, you too, are a imbecile. Burst is really cheap right now, why would you make your own coin instead of taking that time and energy and improving on Burst?
Because with the deflation rate in burst, it will die out anyway. As things are, there are big holders who mined many millions for cheap in the beginning. They can't dump all at once, there are not enough buy orders, they will even hold for a while, until the situation becomes hopeless, and then it will die, just like any other altcoin. Plus that I'm only interested in the PoC, I prefer the cryptonote platform. Sure all that assets and stuff sound good, but let's face it BTC had success because of drug trading. Anonymity is needed in the cryptoworld. The very name crypto implies anonimity. Will this coin overtake bitcoin very doubtful will it be worth a lot probably not but with the development that has been around for it it can definitely come/stay in the top 10 altcoins. I think the coin is far from dieing. Most altcoins die because they are not unique and eventually the devs give up on it. Aiming for LTC would probably be a good place. PS: BTC is in no way anonymous and is actually easier to trace then bank transactions in the real world. Cryptonote is actually anonymous. The reason BTC was and is big in drug circles is because it's unregulated, easy to move around, and impossible to put a hold on. You can't stop BTC transactions without a significant amount of hash power and even then it just delays them. I think it's kinda backwards to implement anonymity with BURST, but CIYAM said it can be done with AT.
I offer a bounty: 1,000,000 BURST to anyone who implements anonymous transactions in BURST, and makes a simple enough interface for the average user. Sure 1m burst is not all that much, and being a programmer myself, I understand that this won't be enough reward for the work, however I only hold 1% of the coins, other holders could join in, so we can make a big bounty.
Anonymity will give value to the coin, it would be a good reason to buy it and sell it, other than the usual pump and dump gamble. If you hold BURST, join me, let's pay CIYAM to do it
The wallet needs a complete redesign and either a installer or a easy to run .exe very similar to BTC more so then ATs with dependencies included (no java install). The same goes for a easy to run and work mining platform. As I mentioned earlier, since this is already a web wallet you run locally, why isn't there a online version of it? All you need is your 'key' to login wherever you are. There should be a official hosted version of the wallet with some added security. If you're going to comission things and offer bounties, offering a bounty for a 'unique' altcoin for PoC would also be a good place to start... Multiple PoC coins at that. That's actually probably better then whatever the PR team is currently doing. I've been mining for years and I don't even read bitcoin 'news' websites. I look at pools, forums, exchanges, and rigrental websites. To that extent, figuring out a way to 'lease' hashing power of PoC is also a good way to get things moving so a multipool or a rigrental website can use your miners. However this isn't as important as some good PoC altcoins.
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May 12, 2015, 05:48:01 AM |
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Please, don't preach your justification at me. The fact that the coin wouldn't be worth anything if there was 3PB of hash power here. You showed up after the coin actually ended up worth something and despite dumping a lot of money into it, you only hold 10% of the network hash. You're doing more damage by dumping your mined coins then you're doing if this coin had low hash power, because you wouldn't actually mine it as it wouldn't be worth anything.
Since you're such a genius, you tell me if I mined 13m and still have 9m, how much did I dump? The interface is pretty nice. And if you can't install java, take computer lessons, asshole PS: Speaking of bounties, how much do you charge to get the fuck out of here, you're an idiot. BTW, I don't insult *everyone*, just you and a few other idiots.
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May 12, 2015, 07:17:01 AM |
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Will this coin overtake bitcoin very doubtful will it be worth a lot probably not but with the development that has been around for it it can definitely come/stay in the top 10 altcoins. I think the coin is far from dieing. Most altcoins die because they are not unique and eventually the devs give up on it.
What`s about our dev? Last Active: May 01, 2015, 09:08:39 PM I think it's kinda backwards to implement anonymity with BURST, but CIYAM said it can be done with AT.
I offer a bounty: 1,000,000 BURST to anyone who implements anonymous transactions in BURST, and makes a simple enough interface for the average user. Sure 1m burst is not all that much, and being a programmer myself, I understand that this won't be enough reward for the work, however I only hold 1% of the coins, other holders could join in, so we can make a big bounty.
Anonymity will give value to the coin, it would be a good reason to buy it and sell it, other than the usual pump and dump gamble. If you hold BURST, join me, let's pay CIYAM to do it
+500,000 burst from me.... I will add +500,000 too.
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May 12, 2015, 07:27:48 AM |
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1,000,000 from me Fuck it, I'm interested a bit just to see if this can be done neatly. I'll throw 150k at it too.
+500,000 burst from me....
I will add +500,000 too.
2,150,000 within 4 hours. WOW. Maybe this will happen! Hell, if it reaches 10M I'm interested in coding it myself if y'all don't mind CIYAM sent me a message, he's like he coded AT, and is unhappy that nobody is using it. He is still the best candidate for the job, if he wants to take it. maybe at 10M he will change his mind
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May 12, 2015, 07:45:28 AM |
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I really enjoy to read this forum topic every day. BURST cant die this easy with so many "idiots" support him
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May 12, 2015, 08:19:58 AM |
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Disclosing the content of any private message without getting permission to do so is something that I consider to be rather "poor behaviour" but if you are going to do so it should be at least accurate.
So let me state publicly that we have already worked out a variation of the ACCT that would be helpful in making it very hard to track funds being transferred between blockchains assuming enough such transfers (of the same amounts) were taking place. The method was outlined on this forum in a topic that I ended up locking due to it being spammed.
To be clear there is simply no point though in us (the CIYAM AT team) focusing on that until the initial ACCT has been published and we have had sufficient feedback to make it as "user friendly" as we can.
If @vbcs is interested in taking up the offer then perhaps create a CF AT for funding the creation of this special ACCT variation and I would perhaps also suggest that a "mixer" AT could be developed as well (that is designed just for moving fixed amounts between different accounts on the one blockchain).
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CIYAM sent me a message, he's like he coded AT, and is unhappy that nobody is using it. He is still the best candidate for the job, if he wants to take it. maybe at 10M he will change his mind I reckon one of the major stumbling blocks is that you have to download separate HTML files and type them into the address bar to see them. Hardly anyone plays the AT lottery because there's no link to it from the main wallet page. There's no easy link to see all, or search all, items in the marketplace either - you somehow have to know who is selling and then type in their address! Ditto the crowdfunding. We need an HTML/JS/jQuery/CSS person to integrate these pages into the main wallet. Anyone have those skills? Burst available to see it happen...
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May 12, 2015, 09:02:38 AM |
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I reckon one of the major stumbling blocks is that you have to download separate HTML files and type them into the address bar to see them.
Agreed and the major focus of the AT project (after we have released AT on Qora and published the ACCT) is to create a UI generator for ATs which will be able to automatically construct UI.
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May 12, 2015, 11:27:51 AM |
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Now now mates. We should all tone down our temper a bit. There is no need for this pointless bickering BURST is not dead, not even close.
Burstdev is alive and well, still working on BURST. Our dear CIYAM devs are working on AT to the betterment of us all.
PR has stalled a bit lately to be honest, however we expect to pick our activities up very soon.
Stay tuned mates!
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May 12, 2015, 11:41:43 AM |
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Now now mates. We should all tone down our temper a bit. There is no need for this pointless bickering BURST is not dead, not even close.
Burstdev is alive and well, still working on BURST. Our dear CIYAM devs are working on AT to the betterment of us all.
PR has stalled a bit lately to be honest, however we expect to pick our activities up very soon.
Stay tuned mates!
So far name calling "idiots" made me smile because its have very good definition: Idiot = man full with ideas Forum look really full with good and creative suggestions from many users. They kinda got so mad in discussion process but its good overall we talk for it.
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May 12, 2015, 11:49:40 AM |
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Hi,
I've sold some shares of my asset ByteEMini, but I haven't received burst into my account. I cant see a transaction for it within the blockchain or my transactions list only on the asset trade history window. Does it take a certain number of confirmations or is it held in escrow or something before the transaction completes?
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May 12, 2015, 02:19:46 PM |
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Hi,
I've sold some shares of my asset ByteEMini, but I haven't received burst into my account. I cant see a transaction for it within the blockchain or my transactions list only on the asset trade history window. Does it take a certain number of confirmations or is it held in escrow or something before the transaction completes?
What's your wallet address? BURST-N8KB-DKKW-9C4W-AF289 http://burstcoin.eu/address/9482343705890921001I have found the buyers purchase transaction/s but they go from the buyers burst address to / ,but I noticed a similar process is used for other asset purchases. I may have received the funds but I didn't notice a balance change, it was only two small purchases.
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May 12, 2015, 02:50:09 PM |
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Okay, just been testing a few things.
The transactions get recorded to the block chain and the account balance changes at (least on my purchases) this information is within the transaction details but the burst coming in or out isn't stated like it is with ordinary payments.
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May 12, 2015, 03:23:10 PM |
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Just so that everyone knows, There will be an official SSL web wallet VERY SOON. The wallet already exists, and the SSL cert has been made, we're implementing it soon.
The link is here (and honestly, SSL doesn't really matter, it will be there mostly to make people happy. There is no need for SSL on BURST wallets.)
http://wallet.burst.city:8125
Also note the domain, burst.city. This domain will soon be the home of many exciting projects.
Thank you!
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Sorry for the sarcasm.
But how many people will further post here what we gonna have soon?
People post when its available!!!!
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aww...looks like I missed a good buying opportunity oh well, my buy order is waiting for the next dump
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May 12, 2015, 06:26:45 PM |
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Sorry for the sarcasm.
But how many people will further post here what we gonna have soon?
People post when its available!!!!
it IS available. see? http://wallet.burst.city:8125SSL isn't necessary, but people bitch if it isn't implemented. once again, SSL isn't necessary. We are doing it anyway, but it IS NOT NECESSARY.
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