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June 29, 2015, 11:00:07 PM
 #21441

Hello,

This is Karl Perkin. I have a Twitter project (which got major help from crowetic), aiming to demonstrate the undervaluation of Burst. June 22nd I had 120 followers and would about to write the 19th tweet. Now, the 25th of June I have 188 followers and posted 50 tweets. The first batch of tweets, got 9-10 retweets (thank you!).

I have to admit that all tweets are not directly about the chosen topic, but most are.

I do not write this to brag, overall I have very few followers but hope they will grow to a larger group. I was thinking I would share the first 50 tweets with you. Please note that the list sometimes differ from the actual tweet (I write them off-line, and when posting may need to edit them).

The primary objective by posting the list is to encourage the Burst community to contribute in this thread with possible Twitter material to tweet to be used. I do have material for continued tweeting for awhile, but then my (and crowetic's) imagination might dry up.

A secondary objective is that we, although in an odd 140-characters limited phrasing, collect all the positive arguments for Burst. The results, I hope, could be useful for the PR-team in various situations.



The List

(Evidence to the my #BURST tweets is found @ burstcoin.into, burstcoin.eu & BCTalk's http://[Suspicious link removed]/OEXI) #cryptocurrency #UNDERVALUE

(What's the deal with numbers & letters in-front of some of my tweets? They order a drive showing #crypto #BURST's #UNDERVALUE! #bitcoin)

1. The estimated price of hardware atm mining #cryptocurrency #BURST is around $500K (mostly hard-drives) #Crypto #Bitcoin #UNDERVALUED

2. The work so far: #NXT rewrite, Miners, Plotters, AT, ACCT, Pools, Websites, Work, etc., exceeds $500K #BURST #CRYPTO #BITCOIN #UNDERVALUED

3. This means at least #Burst investments of $1.000.000 in hardware & manpower. While the #marketcap is $150K #crypto

4. Marketcap of $150K for #BURST when work & hardware is $1mil, AND network-size just grows! This = #UNDERVALUED

5. Marketcap of $150K for #BURST & work & things = $1mil, WHILE users just grow! This = #UNDERVALUED #crypto #bitcoin

6. Analysis of POW coins mining costs w. #Burst's PoC. Earth is worth saving, but POW coins wont do it. http://[Suspicious link removed]/p1PEwc #crypto

7. #cryptocurrency #Burst truly is ASIC resistant! Read to understand pi.vu/667g, [Suspicious link removed]/OAmhD #bitcoin #UNDERVALUED

8. All talks of #SmartContracts, but #BURST has them running 4 six month. Get started @ [Suspicious link removed]/gbTwzk #crypto #bitcoin #UNDERVALUED

9. Wonder what the number in front of some of my tweets means? They order a Twitter campaign showing #Burst's #UNDERVALUE! #bitcoin #crypto

10. #AutomatedTransactions are #SmartContracts for #cryptocurrencies, working with any coin & implemented on.#Burst #bitcoin #UNDERVALUED

11. #Cryptocurrency #Burst is traded @Poloniex, @BittrexExchange & @CryptoCurrEncyX. Get some while cheap! #crypto #bitcoin #UNDERVALUED

12. #BURST goes to China & Launches http://burstcoin.cn. A warm welcome to users from #China! #crypto #bitcoin #UNDERVALUED

13. Celebrating burstcoin.cn, 8btc.com has a #giveaway - 1st gets 1K #BURST, 2nd gets 999… [Suspicious link removed]/1G6kEB5n #UNDERVALUED

14. Value your privacy? #BURST counts #encrypted #messaging among its many features! http://burstcoin.info #crypto #bitcoin #UNDERVALUED

15. Tired of Devs sleeping? #BURST now has a #slack for devs & users interaction Have an idea/wanna chat? http://[Suspicious link removed]/0IuF78 #UNDERVALUE

16. #Cryptocurrency #BURST uses a new PoW type algo called (PoC), lacking POS flaws. See: http://[Suspicious link removed]/DYSkSE #crypto #bitcoin #UNDERVALUED

17. The first & only HDD mined #cryptocurrency, #Burst, uses hardly NO power with your hard drive? Empty space = mine = free money!        

18a. For year, #crypto talked of #trustless #SmartContracts for their endless possibilities Despite others, #BURST has them NOW! #UNDERVALUE

18b. #Crypto #BURST's #trustless #SmartContracts called Automated Transactions (AT), is deved by ciyam.org/at #UNDERVALUE

18c. Try #SmartContracs & #AutomatedTransactions (#AT) examples @ [Suspicious link removed]/gbTwzk #bitcoin #crypto #cryptocurrency #UNDERVALUED

19. We've just touched on #BURST's many features. Q: Does it have a #free #decentralized #escrow service? OF COURSE! #bitcoin #undervalued

20. Before launch, did the soon 1y old #BURST host fundraising based on promises (#IPO/#ICO)? NO! All development/PR is #voluntary #bitcoin

21. Before launch, was it a pre-mine benefiting the #BURST devs? NO! Devs' earnings come from trading/mining. #crypto #undervalued #Bitcoin

22. Without any pre-financing, can #BURST have devs? YES! It has ~20 ppl working.. Dedication, voluntarism & donations #bitcoin #undervalued

23. Without external funds, do devs have holdings? YES! The rich-list has the creator @ #33 of the 20K wallets #bitcoin #undervalue #crypto

24. #BURST, a 2.0 #crypto, has a #free #decentralized #asset #exchange w. infinite potential, e.g. setup company stock. #Bitcoin #Undervalue

25a. Wanna build #DECENTRALIZED #EXCHANGES, defeat the central authority? #BURST has the tech in ACCT! #CYIAM #bitcoin #crypto #UNDERVALUE

25b. #BURST did the world's first #ACCT with #QORA, a transaction CROSS CHAIN; an exchange without a Exchange #bitcoin #crypto #UNDERVALUE

26. Hey #Ebay, #BURST has a #decentralized marketplace - #freedom in buying & selling, NO central #authority! #bitcoin #crypto #UNDERVALUE

27. Tired of the heat & power problems with old PoW mining, but still want to MINE? Try #BBURST's HHD mining! #bitcoin #crypto #UNDERVALUE

28a. Any devs like to have the ability to setup a program on the #decentralized #blockchain? Join #BURST's #AT tech! #crypto #UNDERVALUE

28b. With #ATs, #crowdfunding, lottery, CrossChain transactions & a lot more is possible. Join #BURST's #AT! #bitcoin #crypto #UNDERVALUE

29a. In #cryptocurrency debate, the terms ASIC proof/resistant are common - but NO #PoW #coin will ever be it. #BURST's PoC is ASIC proof!

29b. #BURST's #PoC, with similarities to #PoW, is #ASIC proof due to the complex #algo which results is stored on your harddrive. #bitcoin

29c. The regular home-PC will thus never be "ousted" as #PoW's #CPU, #GPU, #FPGA & even next-generation ASICs are doomed to be. #BURST

29d. Truly #ASIC proof forever, decentralized & hard-drive mining is THE home #miner's #dream with some unused #hard-drive space. #BURST

29e. #BURST is also THE home #miner's #dream due to the little power a #harddrive requires. If price want hit zero, profit is yours.

29f. The #ASIC proof & home-users of #BURST is also important as it gives true #decentralization. #cryptocurrency #bitcoin #crypto #UNDERVALUE

30a. #Decentralized is another catch-word of #crypto, & it's central for the network. But #bitcoin increasingly becomes #centralized. #BURST  

30b. The #centralization of #bitcoin is due to many things, like the progress of ever-more efficient #ASIC. #crypto #UNDERVALUE

30c. Major actor #KnC has developed a new chip, more powerful than all other: This will, as happened before, #centralize #bitcoin. #BURST

30d. With the #ASIC proof & home-users of #BURST, the development as seen in #bitcoin's #PoW is impossible. #BURST WILL stay #decentralized!

30e. Conclusion 1: #ASIC proof, true #decentralization, #PoC & whole lot of innovation, #Burst hard-drive mining is the home-miner's dream.

30f. Conclusion 2: There aren't any #innovation able to disrupt #BURST's technology. You'll always earn some $. #crypto #UNDERVALUE

30g. #BURST's HDD mining is here to stay. However, #BURST isn't complete: ~20 devs steadily add new features. #bitcoin #crypto #UNDERVALUE

31. Doing a "#world firsts" is just another day for #BURST devs. HDD Mining, Automated Transactions, cross blockchain transfers! #UNDERVALUE

32. Got an important transaction that needs an ESCROW agent? Use #BURST! It's built right into the beautiful wallet! #bitcoin #UNDERVALUE

END.

The fact that some tweets are labeled 18a, 18b, 18c and so on, is the reason that we only are on tweet number 32 and not 50. I can see that bitcointalk doesn't like the URL shortener "is .gd/", but I assure you there is nothing suspicious being linked.


Please, if you like the project and want to support it, post possible tweets or possible topics to work with, and secondly, if you use Twitter add my account https://twitter.com/karl_perkin and retweet the posts you find relevant.


Thank you!


Warm regards,
Karl





To multiply the list, you could use spin technology. Example, for the "message" it is not important if you say "Peter said" or "Anna said". I use spin technology in my tweet program which replaces parts of the message, in above example: "{Peter|Anna} said" 
If you use multiple such possibilities in one message, .... you get a lots of tweets.

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June 29, 2015, 11:06:12 PM
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I have an announcement to make:

because nobody wants to code a proper Windows Wallet for Burst I started to make one on my own. My coding skills are rusty but let's see how far I get with this.

The program uses the official Online Wallet of Crowetic & Catbref (https://wallet.burst.city) and a local one. The blockchain is downloading in the background as long as the wallet is opened. (You can drop your existing Blockchain into the burst_db folder as always)
I implemented an passphrase manager for your Wallets - which saves the passphrases encrypted in the same directory like the .exe. This is a rudimentary encryption so the phrases are not in plaintext in the directory.

Features:
+ Wallet/Passphrase Manager
+ Switch between Online and Local Wallet
+ Crowdfunding & Lotteries

ToDos:
- Minimize to tray
...
your suggestions
...
- Plotter
- Miner
- Installation routine



Burst Windows Wallet v0.1.4
https://mega.co.nz/#!K5MhmIjA!bwtrNp_MOj1ONIRRBkYJJwBMBWXL8JieeX2YVXyqSxE




You could add Luxe's idea of creating customized BURST addresses

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June 29, 2015, 11:11:59 PM
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Features:
+ Wallet/Passphrase Manager
+ Switch between Online and Local Wallet
+ Crowdfunding & Lotteries

ToDos:
- Minimize to tray
...
your suggestions
...
- Plotter
- Miner
- Installation routine



awesome, im asking to myselft why nobody start with it yet.

ty for your hard work man, i will try it on one of my machines, now i cant think on any sugestions but will be awesome if we start to work on it, i really think that burst need to have an "easy way" to start and work.

IMHO #1.b of suspects, Hal Finney is/was S.N.
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Please do not read this read if you do not want to read OffTopic posts, but just to show how unreasonable crowetic and mczarnek are at the moment, when they perhaps should spend their time promoting your coin and not

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Edit: The account that is dumping is so-called mmmaybe. Who also is not dead, and lied to the entire community for some sick game, I will no longer pretend like I believe him. He pretended to be friends with so many of us, just to end up playing some sick game for no reason I can see. I will never understand that.


I have no access to any Burst coin account and can not simply "dump" any coins. I bought this account, very cheap due to these controversies, which at the time I was not aware of. I bought it for sig. purposes. I make some income by posting with high ranked account on the forum to support my family.

I did not know mmmaybe. I do not know if he lives or is dead. After a number PMs of accusations from 'mczarnek', who evidently is totally convinced I am the 'original mmmaybe', which made me review this accounts history, I ask him some questions and comment trying to set things straight.

I will share some of those with you, so you can make up your own mind. Some of the quotes are hard to comprehend, I assume, as I of ethical reason do not post his accusations.





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Do you see my signature about coinomat? They pay me 0.001 per post. [I have many more account too, edit] I'm allowed to post 100 posts a week, earning 0.01. If I have a number of accounts, I can make more. I'm poor so the money is important.

Do you mind rephrase the trust comment [he had made a negative trust comment]. The original owner might be dead, I don't know, but I have no other intentions then to support my family.




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I can obviously not convince you, you are a man of faith and not arguments.


"Yes, I'm dead. I tell everyone that. I sell my account on bitcointalk to someone, but I then buy it back again. I email from Heaven while writing 200 posts a day here just for fun".


Give me at least one good reason to why a man, who seemed quite wealthy and respected, would pretend to die, sell his account, buy it back, and spend his time writing 200 posts a day for a few dollars?

As you are well spoken I guess you are well-educated. Therefore I also assume you are familiar with "Occam's razor". Please analyze our two stories from that point of view. If you still believe in your story after doing that, you are not only a man of faith, you are a fundamentalist with no rationality.

Please let me do my work now without getting nonsense accusations.




Now you present events I had no idea of. "A friend of a friend", "take the community funds". It is easy to play poker when you can see the value of the cards.

It made me look at his posting history a little closer. As I understand you, "mmmaybe" presented a picture of himself as a major investor in Burst (hence my conclusion of him being relatively wealthy) while this was false? If this is the case, let me say seven things:

1. You wrote "you were just trying to pump the price with a fake story". This contradicts the claim that he wasn't, as I call it, wealthy and well-invested in Burst.

2. When reviewing his post records, under certain periods of time, he dedicates very much time to Burst. He was also part of the PR team, making it likely that he put in even more time. This indicates that he was well-invested and wanted to see a value increase, but I can not see how his death would pump the price. As I understand it, the community lost a hard working man. Without further comparisons, but if Gavin A. died tomorrow, this certainly would have negative effects on the BTC value.

3. If he was wealthy and well-invested in Burst, why would he put on all this show for small sums? If he was poor and planned this all along, the stealing must given him a smaller wage than me.

4. If you plan to go to the press with this story, I assume you knew/know his identity. A wealthy man would not risk bad press, leaving the option that he lied of his investments and was, what I call, poor and would not care about press. Then again we have a man doing a lot of work for almost nothing.

5. So let us assume that he was "poor" and planned to "take the community funds", he still had a official account which received more than 9 million and generated 2 million. That contradicts that he was poor, not by the sum itself but the value of the equipment required.

6. Continuing assuming he was poor, one can see that he contributes do various donations and even take initiative to such. I even thought I read he claimed (yes, weakness) he was the biggest donor. Giving away large sums of money, contradicts that he was poor.

7. So, concluding, much indicates that he indeed was well-invested and wealthy. Working hard with Burst while risking bad PR for or even legal measures for, what I assume, was  relatively small "community funds" (even marketcap isn't much, I just checked) is not rational for someone wealth.

Something I also noticed is that mmmaybe's involvement with Burst tend to vary during the the last months. He does not post very much for weeks sometimes, while being very active in between these periods. To me, that is a pattern coherent with someone fighting a disease, but of course that's just part of the overarching plan to run away with some money, right?


I believe Ockham has spoken. The story just doesn't make sense, at least not if you don't believe me. But I will say this: The story I now know more about IS really odd, given that you do not accept what I know is the truth, that is why I wrote what I wrote in the Sia thread. As you don't believe me and I can't prove myself other then with words, arguments like these are meaningless.

I don't even know why I spent all these hours corresponding with you when I should have working (posting). As I said, I'm poor and I'd like to be compensated for this time you took from me. I estimate that I, at a minimum, lost 0.005 BTC writing to you. Please donate to 13cKZYW75zBPuW6xp8Pt5QTWFHQpXosP56 [this is a very rich account, edit].

Goodbye, sir





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Real name? You'd go to the press, you said, and I, perhaps wrongly, assumed that it'd include outing his name (Gox et. al).

The address [above, edit] was a joke. If you couldn't  understand that, you're as humorless as irrational.

You haven't provide any sensible reason to why a person - wealthy or poor - would do the think you describe. Why would he not just leave? Why create one of the most unbelievable stories ever? Silly, silly man.

I've already given this too much attention. From now on, you'll need to pay me for real to continue discussing this.




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Your confidence in finding liars wont give you a FBI job. You are wrong. Wrong. Sorry, but stop come with unsubstantial accusation. Instead answer the key razor questions:

You haven't provide any sensible reason to why a person - wealthy or poor - would do the think you describe. Why would he not just leave? Why create one of the most unbelievable stories ever?

Please send 0.02 to 15iBPzLbtD6jBBwHXhkZLHGsRKK2ujDnBs [this is my own account, edit].




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After the youtube link and the request for payment to answer any more silly questions and him not answer the key question of mine:

Why would a man do these things?


Due to this controversy I have not posted in this thread after I bought it nor will I do it again. I would, however, like to encourage crowetic and mczarnek to read this all over again, trying to be objective: What story, theirs or mine, is the the most plausible?

Thank you



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June 29, 2015, 11:34:21 PM
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END.

The fact that some tweets are labeled 18a, 18b, 18c and so on, is the reason that we only are on tweet number 32 and not 50. I can see that bitcointalk doesn't like the URL shortener "is .gd/", but I assure you there is nothing suspicious being linked.


Please, if you like the project and want to support it, post possible tweets or possible topics to work with, and secondly, if you use Twitter add my account https://twitter.com/karl_perkin and retweet the posts you find relevant.


Thank you!


Warm regards,
Karl





To multiply the list, you could use spin technology. Example, for the "message" it is not important if you say "Peter said" or "Anna said". I use spin technology in my tweet program which replaces parts of the message, in above example: "{Peter|Anna} said" 
If you use multiple such possibilities in one message, .... you get a lots of tweets.


Thank you! Is this a physical program your are referring to...?
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June 30, 2015, 12:50:36 AM
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Please do not read this read if you do not want to read OffTopic posts, but just to show how unreasonable crowetic and mczarnek are at the moment, when they perhaps should spend their time promoting your coin and not

---
Edit: The account that is dumping is so-called mmmaybe. Who also is not dead, and lied to the entire community for some sick game, I will no longer pretend like I believe him. He pretended to be friends with so many of us, just to end up playing some sick game for no reason I can see. I will never understand that.


I have no access to any Burst coin account and can not simply "dump" any coins. I bought this account, very cheap due to these controversies, which at the time I was not aware of. I bought it for sig. purposes. I make some income by posting with high ranked account on the forum to support my family.



Your nonsense does not make you look better!
Just use your own identity, your own thoughts, your own accounts.

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I have no access to any Burst coin account and can not simply "dump" any coins. I bought this account, very cheap due to these controversies, which at the time I was not aware of. I bought it for sig. purposes. I make some income by posting with high ranked account on the forum to support my family.

You told me you made .01 BTC max per account you own... I highly doubt the story but pretending it is true for $2, could you please stop posting from our dead friends account?  In fact I'll buy the account off of you for .05 BTC.  And how many accounts do you have that you are posting from?  I'm guessing a job at McD's would probably pay better.

I'm convinced that mmmaybe's dumping his coins and this whole thing is his attempt at a PR story to try to get some press before he dumps them all.

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June 30, 2015, 01:35:26 AM
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I have no access to any Burst coin account and can not simply "dump" any coins. I bought this account, very cheap due to these controversies, which at the time I was not aware of. I bought it for sig. purposes. I make some income by posting with high ranked account on the forum to support my family.

You told me you made .01 BTC max per account you own... I highly doubt the story but pretending it is true for $2, could you please stop posting from our dead friends account?  In fact I'll buy the account off of you for .05 BTC.  And how many accounts do you have that you are posting from?  I'm guessing a job at McD's would probably pay better.

I'm convinced that mmmaybe's dumping his coins and this whole thing is his attempt at a PR story to try to get some press before he dumps them all.

I will not sell it, but I will not ever again post in Burst related threads. But please harassing me and spreading lies.

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blago,

I've problem running your latest version with a main machine and proxy.

This is my current settings on my main machine:

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{

   "Mode" : "poolV2",
   "Server" : "178.62.39.204",
   "Port": 8121,
   "UpdaterAddr" : "178.62.39.204",
   "UpdaterPort": 8121,
   "EnableProxy": true,
   "ProxyPort": 8126,
   "Paths": ["D:\\plots","E:\\plots","F:\\plots","G:\\plots","H:\\plots","I:\\plots","J:\\plots","K:\\plots","L:\\plots","M:\\plots","N:\\plots","O:\\plots","P:\\plots"],
   "CacheSize" : 200000,
   "ShowMsg" : false ,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,
   "UseSorting" : false,
   "Debug": false,
   "SendBestOnly": false,
   "UseFastRcv" : true,
   "SendInterval": 100,
   "UpdateInterval": 2000
}


This is my current settings on one of the satellites:

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{


   "Mode" : "pool",
   "Server" : "10.0.0.8",
   "Port": 8126,
   "UpdaterAddr" : "10.0.0.8",
   "UpdaterPort": 8126,
   "EnableProxy": false,
   "ProxyPort": 8126,

   "Paths":["D:\\plots","E:\\plots","F:\\plots","G:\\plots","I:\\plots","J:\\plots "K:\\plots","L:\\plots","M:\\plots","N:\\plots","O:\\plots"],
   "CacheSize" : 200000,
   "ShowMsg" : false ,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,
   "UseSorting" : false,
   "Debug": false,
   "SendBestOnly": false,
   "UseFastRcv" : true,
   "SendInterval": 100,
   "UpdateInterval": 2000
}


10.0.0.8 is the main machine's local IP but can't get your latest version to work with their new variables. Can you help me?
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Last edit: June 30, 2015, 11:32:05 AM by riskyfire
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This thread has taken an odd turn!

If the guy was dead, who arranged the sale of his bitcointalk account?

If the guy was dead, who has taken control of his burst assets? why are they selling?

In the event of my death and I can assure you that my crypto assets will stay exactly
as they are because I haven't planned for the event! I think the same would be true for
most people.

Selling a dead guys forum account...give me a break!!!

I can't understand why some people really do go out of their way to make life extra complicated for themselves!

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June 30, 2015, 01:01:07 PM
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This thread has taken an odd turn!

If the guy was dead, who arranged the sale of his bitcointalk account?

If the guy was dead, who has taken control of his burst assets? why are they selling?

In the event of my death and I can assure you that my crypto assets will stay exactly
as they are because I haven't planned for the event! I think the same would be true for
most people.

Selling a dead guys forum account...give me a break!!!

I can't understand why some people really do go out of their way to make life extra complicated for themselves!


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June 30, 2015, 09:32:06 PM
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@mmmaybe -

dude, give it up, you're found out.

1.  No one defends 'not' themselves with a two fuckin page response.

2.  just shut up.

3.  Your mining gear is still mining from the same place, on the same pool.

4.  You're talking in Sweden threads - what are the odds your account was bought by not only another swede, but one from the same place? Gothenburg? Not very likely huh?

5. Since you aren't checking this thread anymore, I don't expect you to reply. Kindly go the fuck away and play your games elsewhere, you've already completely ruined your reputation with me, and I'm not the type to let this kind of shit go.

6. Would a rich man steal what little money the PR team had donated to them? Yes, if he was a rich fuckhead, or a normal dude who makes up dumb stories and lies all the time. AKA you.


I DID consider you a friend, but you can seriously rot in hell for all I care, and I know that my comments may not be something the PR team agrees with, but I'm seriously not the type to take this kind of shit in stride, I can't STAND game playing fuckheads, and I will not pretend otherwise.


**my apologies to anyone this offends.**



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June 30, 2015, 10:37:53 PM
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This is fuckin great! Look at the market! WTF is that. Keep holding to your bags till the bitter end. Right?

BURST is crashing. I have held my bag far too long.
But that's it, I'm gonna dump my 20 million, burst is hopeless.

I hope y'all are happy now.
There you have it, the end of bitladen.

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June 30, 2015, 11:32:54 PM
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ANY news from dev on next update release date?
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July 01, 2015, 12:26:09 AM
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@mmmaybe -

dude, give it up, you're found out.

1.  No one defends 'not' themselves with a two fuckin page response.

2.  just shut up.

3.  Your mining gear is still mining from the same place, on the same pool.

4.  You're talking in Sweden threads - what are the odds your account was bought by not only another swede, but one from the same place? Gothenburg? Not very likely huh?

5. Since you aren't checking this thread anymore, I don't expect you to reply. Kindly go the fuck away and play your games elsewhere, you've already completely ruined your reputation with me, and I'm not the type to let this kind of shit go.

6. Would a rich man steal what little money the PR team had donated to them? Yes, if he was a rich fuckhead, or a normal dude who makes up dumb stories and lies all the time. AKA you.


I DID consider you a friend, but you can seriously rot in hell for all I care, and I know that my comments may not be something the PR team agrees with, but I'm seriously not the type to take this kind of shit in stride, I can't STAND game playing fuckheads, and I will not pretend otherwise.


**my apologies to anyone this offends.**

so he scammed some folks here by running with donated PR funds?  anyone open a scammer accusation in the appropriate sub?
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July 01, 2015, 02:03:54 AM
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@mmmaybe -

dude, give it up, you're found out.

1.  No one defends 'not' themselves with a two fuckin page response.

2.  just shut up.

3.  Your mining gear is still mining from the same place, on the same pool.

4.  You're talking in Sweden threads - what are the odds your account was bought by not only another swede, but one from the same place? Gothenburg? Not very likely huh?

5. Since you aren't checking this thread anymore, I don't expect you to reply. Kindly go the fuck away and play your games elsewhere, you've already completely ruined your reputation with me, and I'm not the type to let this kind of shit go.

6. Would a rich man steal what little money the PR team had donated to them? Yes, if he was a rich fuckhead, or a normal dude who makes up dumb stories and lies all the time. AKA you.


I DID consider you a friend, but you can seriously rot in hell for all I care, and I know that my comments may not be something the PR team agrees with, but I'm seriously not the type to take this kind of shit in stride, I can't STAND game playing fuckheads, and I will not pretend otherwise.


**my apologies to anyone this offends.**

so he scammed some folks here by running with donated PR funds?  anyone open a scammer accusation in the appropriate sub?

no, but that's a good point, we should do that.



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July 01, 2015, 02:45:56 AM
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This is fuckin great! Look at the market! WTF is that. Keep holding to your bags till the bitter end. Right?

BURST is crashing. I have held my bag far too long.
But that's it, I'm gonna dump my 20 million, burst is hopeless.

I hope y'all are happy now.
There you have it, the end of bitladen.


Hello,

I also give up. Not that I contributed much or hold many coins. The basic idea of Burst is brilliant, but how the major news on ACCT could be treated the way it was, is not just utterly sad but also deeply unprofessional and incompetent. For a coin to gain value on technological breakthroughs the news need to be spread. Still there is not a proper PR on the homepage

The same with daWallet's program, which is a great idea but far from finished - however a major step forward. But where can we read about it? All the was produced PR-wise were a couple of retweets (of which the majority I paid for).

It's all very sad how such much innovation by devs are mistreated by those next in the chain.

And now internal conflict, stealing of tiny but still funds (http://burstcoin.info/about/#Angels) and following drama... Everyone wants to dump. some do, others think the price is too low and hold. As I can not see anything that can save the coin, holders will just see a lower price.

I am sad about this development with such a great main-devs, but what the rest do I am not sure of. Running pools ans assets for their own personal gain - instead of promoting cryptocurrency's most brilliant idea since bitcoin.

I think the end is near, and I fully understand bitladen. He at least tried to make people aware of some problems the coin have. I hope PoC will not die with Burst, it deserves far better.

Warm regards,
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July 01, 2015, 03:03:25 AM
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People should calm down. Sure, the dev team perhaps got scammed, but looking at that list most on the donation list came from the guy accused...

There are very few constructive post in this monstrous thread, but one I saved:


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1. Run a traditional crowdfunding campaign. Do not use Burst own platform but one of the established ones. There are many to chose from, and also a bunch of sites of more informative nature (for the latter, see for example http://www.realitycrowdtv.com/blog/news/the-9-stages-to-crowdfunding-success/

2. In the presentation, be supportive of the blockchain technology per se, being one of the centuries biggest innovation that will.

3. Point out one big failure of bitcoin and other major cryptocurrencies: energy-waste. There are graphs showing how much electricity POW coins consume and will consume in the future.

4. Presenting Burst, focus on its eco-friendlyness. If possible, also show this by a picture. For nuance, possibly give credit to KNC, how (if I remember correctly) gets their power straight from a waterfall.

5. Create a stand-alone website for the campaign, informative but easily readable.

6. More knowledgeable people will bring up POS as an alternative. Use the regular counter-argument but also highlight Matthew Czarnek's criticism (burstcoin.info/blog/).

7. Do not set the goal too high, maybe $50,000 and call it seed money.

8. Set a number of goals you want to reach by means for the seed money, and be honest about that more funding will be required, either by a new crowdfunding campaign when goals are reached or by venture capital, to really challenge bitcoin.

9. Even if you are asking for a relatively small sum, offer a professional (looking) business plan along with the presentation, where not only the coin is presented and the short-term goals are mentioned but also how each goal will be achieved (and cost), and how that relates to the bigger plan of challenge POW coins energy problem. Some of the goals should be technological and rather simple achievable; other can be hiring someone to design a logo  (see no. 10). There should be hesitation among the devs that they can reach the goals within the time-frame.

10. To get funders feel they are not only is contributing to a risky business, but also give them something back. Ask them to create an account on crowetic's online wallet (simple) and transfer them a few coins, pointing out that these can be really valuable in the future.

11. Consider a fork of Burst with a new name to mirror this promotion. Something with "eco", "environmental" or "save the planet" are names possible. If forking, possibly adjust the valid criticism raised against the coin. A fork do have the advantage that you are not Burst, a year-long mined coin costing 70 satoshi, but generally keep most of the things unchanged and highlight Burst as the innovation you will build on the future on. If you chose this path, a higher sum probably can be asked for.

12. If this does not suit you there is one other alternative, but it is not as straightforward and more related on luck.


Take it for what it is, but I think most make sense. EVEN, or perhaps the most, point number 11. Start over, kick out people not being constructive. 2nd generation HDD mining with a new name but with all the good ideas Burst has.






 
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...

Take it for what it is, but I think most make sense. EVEN, or perhaps the most, point number 11. Start over, kick out people not being constructive. 2nd generation HDD mining with a new name but with all the good ideas Burst has.


Kick out people not being constructive? Lol, sounds like a legit(imately) decentralized cryptocurrency to me. Don't like it...you're banned.
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Byte ent payout done

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Amount paid, Account, TX
146449.18125, BURST-79PK-DGC2-M4XP-HUAVB, 16452953019438550100
84459.4875, BURST-W3VU-PJX2-KCN5-F3GP3, 1979365146757681004
35929.022625, BURST-EDTR-SU3E-VV64-3ALJJ, 12559751418263352250
18740.5875, BURST-J8HZ-99WH-5B3G-BCRMF, 4004712798945015150
18450, BURST-BREF-TMF3-FZU3-FR7L7, 3151641130963283850
10470.9285, BURST-Y2QP-GAKA-AECZ-9KQVA, 2190936356298492515
9225, BURST-K376-EJSB-NMC5-FDF2F, 1613098308808934939
7089.4125, BURST-ACGB-YGHQ-G9ZL-5XD7U, 13123608005577857053
4612.5, BURST-ZEWG-V3ZY-WKL8-6V4RM, 17558942153113357137
4072.37625, BURST-YSFT-M5W8-E4Z7-D7UDQ, 851956769810612246
2999.0475, BURST-N8KB-DKKW-9C4W-AF289, 11410629291917468563
2868.51375, BURST-2ECL-MQ5A-AZDN-C6WAR, 18038094886615039921
2494.90125, BURST-6CTC-EFAD-5F5U-8BFDC, 5745576403360879448
2306.25, BURST-FTMG-UHZR-8HL9-9YHNT, 13363765526473101781
2214, BURST-SQGU-CMQM-DM47-A63ZK, 10959484778092811044
1658.655, BURST-3BEM-P3WL-TBM6-APZSR, 7506042413797786371
1562.715, BURST-VVM6-WN67-TS5V-52NB3, 7134206969878721506
1196.94375, BURST-3JGU-CKJV-QQHZ-HH6RP, 6767742633854519835
1130.0625, BURST-58RS-CFFU-QDW9-9QGD6, 12684696446515582664
1062.766125, BURST-KLKV-64G5-ZS2L-6F6PP, 9025936596970056930
968.625, BURST-8XMM-697F-6T5D-C49LZ, 14372384864995713114
778.12875, BURST-EYZ9-2NHP-VN4T-72RU4, 169658914724288177
755.389125, BURST-8M7H-MECE-7TSW-BT2Z9, 4340962265467392548
641.1375, BURST-SDAC-FFUD-SMCB-D3Q74, 9219899224676923593
590.4, BURST-LSQV-BM94-VRFZ-48EUN, 1611414771056441995
507.375, BURST-G5EG-7MQ2-QJJ9-7VRCG, 2359303287138126982
507.375, BURST-LAW7-GHX4-WV6W-HNRKG, 2429571560072304543
461.25, BURST-X2LG-EB5R-JWTE-8D8ZA, 9553610314932535694
461.25, BURST-WTN9-HFDE-XBZB-933Q5, 3522249214832289093
461.25, BURST-K48W-F6TF-LQJW-FHR6A, 7368599794539359042
357.0075, BURST-UF6F-QQCT-2DDW-EUMTC, 12981391301313008585
345.9375, BURST-8RHD-L8GS-UXTN-DEPDK, 15310736242720311284
307.65375, BURST-YZJ6-LYBY-WAC6-BQYGC, 12145187652135794927
291.04875, BURST-X2MY-DV84-GB2J-HCXZE, 3267327857414737196
254.14875, BURST-TKZK-F72H-Z53X-FDSP2, 4282080497077706797
248.61375, BURST-ZTY4-QDR7-CQQW-44TUY, 12031646205449494449
230.625, BURST-J6JQ-ZWC2-RK7E-CLY93, 11756582291788720663
184.5, BURST-YA29-QCEW-QXC3-BKXDL, 12574743861193695554
179.8875, BURST-58XP-63WY-XSVQ-ASG9A, 3867338349253030267
138.375, BURST-ED7D-65NJ-9YPN-HMJ4K, 4966872939209946376
124.5375, BURST-SLHG-PCZ5-3S5N-G7LGL, 16291259645795002320
110.7, BURST-G96T-JFYP-8LFR-9V7KL, 7541381307288713816
93.1725, BURST-XK5D-GUAH-4B8F-D8LYR, 16747233745357917378
92.25, BURST-LEPZ-TS4J-JJAF-DNHYS, 16882066913349949664
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