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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2170605 times)
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March 28, 2015, 04:08:51 AM
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Do you agree that an asset is a "contract" in the sense, that you offer something for buying that asset?

Now, times often changes things and it might be necessary to change the "contract" of the asset. What would be in your opinion the right way to do so?

I would do the following, would you agree to that?
1. contact all asset holder if they agree to the changes, by secure means, like registered mail, or simpler with a BURST message
2. if we all agree to change, everything is fine
3. I would definitely offer a new asset, since amendments to assets are not possible and
4. exchange them to the new asset: buy old asset back and offer new asset to buy via transfer (not trade)

OMG Elmit - how many time do we have to rehash this? Buying an asset is not the same as buying a contract. You CAN'T buy a contract.

You don't have a contract, you have a stock. You can't buy into a contract - a contract is a legally binding agreement between two or more parties. I can't sign a contract with a company, then sell that contract to a third party - the company never agreed to a contract with the third party - they agreed to a contract with me.

You bought shares in an asset, just like people buy shares of a company. You can choose what you want to do with those shares - buy them, sell them, trade them - but you don't get to tell the company what they can do.

The company gets to decide what it does with those shares - it can pay shareholders a dividend, or not, it can do stock splits, reverse splits, and it can roll your shares over into other types of shares. And that's what has happened here - HardInvest has been subsumed by ByteEnterprises and the shares you held in HardInvest have been rolled over into shares of ByteEnterprises.

Do you understand yet? If not, get your daughter to explain it to you, I'm sure she understands the basic difference between a stock and a contract.

H.




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March 28, 2015, 04:10:30 AM
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Oh, and BTW - according to you, you need to get those trademarked terms out of your signature or you're going to get sued.




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March 28, 2015, 04:11:49 AM
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I like the lower part of burst.ninja, especially when "Forged By" lists:

81749   PetaByte w/ D = 1 min, 12 secs

Lets celebrate

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March 28, 2015, 04:13:10 AM
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Oh, and BTW - according to you, you need to get those trademarked terms out of your signature or you're going to get sued.

YOU will sue me?
Are you already old enough? Jr. Member ;-)

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March 28, 2015, 04:22:15 AM
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Please have a look at my signature!

I use BURST extensively with ASSETs and BURST store.
We offer also Zodiac as a subscription. I will make a landing page for that soon.

I also offer Online courses, which are payable in US$, and - Thanks to IronTiga's suggestions - with BTC (cheaper), NXT (even more cheaper) and BURST (lowest price).
I trust that BURST will rise again and holding them for my retirement would be a good choice., wouldn't it?

The signature offers also my SKYPE and phone numbers, if you have any urgent questions, or if you want to verify that I am a human.

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March 28, 2015, 04:24:58 AM
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Oh, and BTW - according to you, you need to get those trademarked terms out of your signature or you're going to get sued.

YOU will sue me?
Are you already old enough? Jr. Member ;-)

Nope, I have no intention of suing you, just as you had no intention of suing anyone that used the VIA tag in their signature, but then proceded to give them the same warning I gave you .... You've been accused of fraud, you've threatened anyone who has commented on your accusations, I'd never even consider entrusting my money or currencies with you.

And this Member(Not Junior member) is wondering while he's arguing with a "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" member.




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March 28, 2015, 04:30:07 AM
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I like the lower part of burst.ninja, especially when "Forged By" lists:

81749   PetaByte w/ D = 1 min, 12 secs

Lets celebrate

Oh, that one block you forged, in between all the blocks ninja pool forged?

<--  Slow hand claps petabytes awesome accomplishment.




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March 28, 2015, 04:30:47 AM
 #19768

Do you agree that an asset is a "contract" in the sense, that you offer something for buying that asset?

Now, times often changes things and it might be necessary to change the "contract" of the asset. What would be in your opinion the right way to do so?

I would do the following, would you agree to that?
1. contact all asset holder if they agree to the changes, by secure means, like registered mail, or simpler with a BURST message
2. if we all agree to change, everything is fine
3. I would definitely offer a new asset, since amendments to assets are not possible and
4. exchange them to the new asset: buy old asset back and offer new asset to buy via transfer (not trade)

OMG Elmit - how many time do we have to rehash this? Buying an asset is not the same as buying a contract. You CAN'T buy a contract.

You don't have a contract, you have a stock. You can't buy into a contract - a contract is a legally binding agreement between two or more parties. I can't sign a contract with a company, then sell that contract to a third party - the company never agreed to a contract with the third party - they agreed to a contract with me.

You bought shares in an asset, just like people buy shares of a company. You can choose what you want to do with those shares - buy them, sell them, trade them - but you don't get to tell the company what they can do.

The company gets to decide what it does with those shares - it can pay shareholders a dividend, or not, it can do stock splits, reverse splits, and it can roll your shares over into other types of shares. And that's what has happened here - HardInvest has been subsumed by ByteEnterprises and the shares you held in HardInvest have been rolled over into shares of ByteEnterprises.

Do you understand yet? If not, get your daughter to explain it to you, I'm sure she understands the basic difference between a stock and a contract.

H.


Thank you for your valuable input and your opinion. Please allow others also to give their opinion. With others I hope not just the other PR team members.

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March 28, 2015, 04:36:32 AM
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Do you agree that an asset is a "contract" in the sense, that you offer something for buying that asset?

Now, times often changes things and it might be necessary to change the "contract" of the asset. What would be in your opinion the right way to do so?

I would do the following, would you agree to that?
1. contact all asset holder if they agree to the changes, by secure means, like registered mail, or simpler with a BURST message
2. if we all agree to change, everything is fine
3. I would definitely offer a new asset, since amendments to assets are not possible and
4. exchange them to the new asset: buy old asset back and offer new asset to buy via transfer (not trade)

OMG Elmit - how many time do we have to rehash this? Buying an asset is not the same as buying a contract. You CAN'T buy a contract.

You don't have a contract, you have a stock. You can't buy into a contract - a contract is a legally binding agreement between two or more parties. I can't sign a contract with a company, then sell that contract to a third party - the company never agreed to a contract with the third party - they agreed to a contract with me.

You bought shares in an asset, just like people buy shares of a company. You can choose what you want to do with those shares - buy them, sell them, trade them - but you don't get to tell the company what they can do.

The company gets to decide what it does with those shares - it can pay shareholders a dividend, or not, it can do stock splits, reverse splits, and it can roll your shares over into other types of shares. And that's what has happened here - HardInvest has been subsumed by ByteEnterprises and the shares you held in HardInvest have been rolled over into shares of ByteEnterprises.

Do you understand yet? If not, get your daughter to explain it to you, I'm sure she understands the basic difference between a stock and a contract.

H.


Thank you for your valuable input and your opinion. Please allow others also to give their opinion. With others I hope not just the other PR team members.

As I've already told you, I have no association to HardInvest or ByteEnt other than being a shareholder - just like you. I am not a member of the PR team, I'm only an asset holder.




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March 28, 2015, 04:37:02 AM
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I like the lower part of burst.ninja, especially when "Forged By" lists:

81749   PetaByte w/ D = 1 min, 12 secs

Lets celebrate

Oh, that one block you forged, in between all the blocks ninja pool forged?

<--  Slow hand claps petabytes awesome accomplishment.

Obviously you do not understand the design of burst.ninja.
AT the top is the old tv testing screen picture.

Below is the good stuff:
in the middle block you see "Recent Block" (only if you do not scroll down, because the headline is not fixed)
There you find in the left column the Block number and in the middle who forged and in the right column "Our Best Miner" (again, only if you do not scroll down, because the headline is not fixed)
IF and only IF the middle column and the right column merges, then and only then the forged miner was from burst.ninja

So, there is not just one PetaByte success and the rest is burst.ninja, as you can see.

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March 28, 2015, 04:39:27 AM
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Oh, and BTW - according to you, you need to get those trademarked terms out of your signature or you're going to get sued.

YOU will sue me?
Are you already old enough? Jr. Member ;-)

I apologize, I did not realize that you have been upgraded to "Member" - Congratulations! Well done! Keep on going!

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March 28, 2015, 04:42:52 AM
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I like the lower part of burst.ninja, especially when "Forged By" lists:

81749   PetaByte w/ D = 1 min, 12 secs

Lets celebrate

Oh, that one block you forged, in between all the blocks ninja pool forged?

<--  Slow hand claps petabytes awesome accomplishment.

Obviously you do not understand the design of burst.ninja.
AT the top is the old tv testing screen picture.

Below is the good stuff:
in the middle block you see "Recent Block" (only if you do not scroll down, because the headline is not fixed)
There you find in the left column the Block number and in the middle who forged and in the right column "Our Best Miner" (again, only if you do not scroll down, because the headline is not fixed)
IF and only IF the middle column and the right column merges, then and only then the forged miner was from burst.ninja

So, there is not just one PetaByte success and the rest is burst.ninja, as you can see.


Kermit, I understand the display perfectly - and as it currently stands, your petabye fund (which you still haven't said how big your plot is), forged one block, surrounded by the five rounds where ninja forged a block - including the one I personally did.




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March 28, 2015, 04:44:39 AM
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As I've already told you, I have no association to HardInvest or ByteEnt other than being a shareholder - just like you. I am not a member of the PR team, I'm only an asset holder.


I apologize again, I thought you are a PR team member, not just an asset holder.

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As I've already told you, I have no association to HardInvest or ByteEnt other than being a shareholder - just like you. I am not a member of the PR team, I'm only an asset holder.


I apologize again, I thought you are a PR team member, not just an asset holder.

Ignorant on everything Burst related, and ignorant in general. Is it going to be groundhog day tomorrow and I'll have to remind you I'm not a member of anything? Are you ever going to say how big your asset plot size is ?




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March 28, 2015, 04:51:21 AM
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Kermit, I understand the display perfectly - and as it currently stands, your petabye fund (which you still haven't said how big your plot is), forged one block, surrounded by the five rounds where ninja forged a block - including the one I personally did.

I am not sure, are you asking how to see the assets information? Or do you not understand 1PB = 1024 TB, where 1 asset of PB = 1 TB of mining space.
I am really puzzled how you can give good suggestions how to possible combine two plot files to a bigger one and then fail to understand above line.

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March 28, 2015, 05:05:05 AM
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The German site http://burstcoin.de is one of the best designed web site regarding BURST coins.

The design including colors, fonts, ... is great!
I could not find missing parts there.
It is updated very frequently.

Congratulations!

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March 28, 2015, 05:09:04 AM
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That hurts:
The current advertisement on that page is for Antminer S5  Angry

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March 28, 2015, 05:13:24 AM
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The wallet has not been updated for a while, although somebody reported that there was a security concern.

What could happen, what do we need to watch out for?

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March 28, 2015, 05:36:18 AM
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Elmit,

Are you waiting to make a post every 4 minutes on purpose, holy spam dude.  Any chance you can get your thoughts together and do a brain dump every 15 minutes at least?  This thread is large enough and information buried a mile deep ( no one wants to use a forum apparently) and a new post every 4 minutes is not helping.

Also, am I missing something?  Is there something with using the BurstForum that keeps people away?

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March 28, 2015, 05:50:45 AM
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Elmit,

Are you waiting to make a post every 4 minutes on purpose, holy spam dude.  Any chance you can get your thoughts together and do a brain dump every 15 minutes at least?  This thread is large enough and information buried a mile deep ( no one wants to use a forum apparently) and a new post every 4 minutes is not helping.

Also, am I missing something?  Is there something with using the BurstForum that keeps people away?


Thank you for your concern!
I could not spot any answer to the questions I had or remarks I had.

I keep usually my thoughts in different messages, so that it is easier to quote. And not everybody wants to answer/comment on each thought I have.

Regarding the censored BurstForum, I was there often. Why I am not posting there much/if I can at all, you need to ask the moderators.

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