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June 30, 2015, 08:44:03 AM Last edit: June 30, 2015, 09:02:33 AM by K1lo |
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It rather makes me laugh, thinking about all the energy they are expending, confirming all the transactions for us and getting bugger-all return. More fool them.
Exactly, I really don't understand why they are doing it except to be malicious. Perhaps they are trying to muscle in when the difficulty is low and bailing out once it becomes untenable. Not sure if they could get any meaningful reward for this type of mining though... EDIT: and just like that it's up to 100Mh/s again ... *head meet desk* EDIT2: 120 Mh/s ... *siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*
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June 30, 2015, 09:04:51 AM |
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Perhaps they are trying to muscle in when the difficulty is low and bailing out once it becomes untenable. Not sure if they could get any meaningful reward for this type of mining though...
I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing. And I'm sure they are making plenty of XMG for themselves while they do it.
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June 30, 2015, 09:09:13 AM |
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I am quite sure that they are making very little XMG out of it. Just do the math.
It is just utterly stupid when they could mine another algo on the XMG Multipool and get paid well in XMG - far more than by hashing away at the XMG blockchain. Some people are just total smegheads (ahh there's one I forgot).
Edit: Incidentally, the XMG nethashrate is not an accurate figure.
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June 30, 2015, 09:19:18 AM |
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I am quite sure that they are making very little XMG out of it. Just do the math.
It is just utterly stupid when they could mine another algo on the XMG Multipool and get paid well in XMG - far more than by hashing away at the XMG blockchain. Some people are just total smegheads (ahh there's one I forgot).
Edit: Incidentally, the XMG nethashrate is not an accurate figure.
If there are some GPU's running on the XMG network, there's no way the price remains like that. It should increase. And btw if there is a GPU miner, this coin is practically dead for CPU miners.
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June 30, 2015, 09:27:19 AM |
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I am quite sure that they are making very little XMG out of it. Just do the math.
It is just utterly stupid when they could mine another algo on the XMG Multipool and get paid well in XMG - far more than by hashing away at the XMG blockchain. Some people are just total smegheads (ahh there's one I forgot).
Edit: Incidentally, the XMG nethashrate is not an accurate figure.
Indeed it would be better to use XMG multipool. If they mine the right coin there the results for collecting XMG would be higher!
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June 30, 2015, 09:30:17 AM |
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If there are some GPU's running on the XMG network, there's no way the price remains like that. It should increase. And btw if there is a GPU miner, this coin is practically dead for CPU miners.
Sorry but that is simply not true. It doesn't matter what or how many devices are used for mining. As we can see, if too much hashrate is thrown at the blockchain the rewards just sink to near zero. A CPU farm or a GPU miner would have exactly the same effect. An army of Raspberry Pi would have exactly the same effect. The graph says it all.
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June 30, 2015, 09:46:42 AM |
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Thanks for clearing that Spexx. As I mentioned before the mindset for mining XMG is different than the mindset for mining btc or other coins. It will take some time before all people will see that.
Lahlor I will try to contact them!
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June 30, 2015, 09:49:07 AM |
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This is starting to get really funny.
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June 30, 2015, 10:13:37 AM |
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As I mentioned before the mindset for mining XMG is different than the mindset for mining btc or other coins.
Quite so. This is what makes Coin of the Magi so unique and why I love it so much. It is the only coin that addresses the excessive energy wasted by mining activities. The energy wasted in Bitcoin mining for example has reached stupid proportions and it would not surprise me at all if the people making the most money out of it were a) ASIC manufacturers and b) electricity companies. Mining XMG is not an arms race like all the others, in fact it is the complete opposite. When we work together to keep the total hashrate under control, the rewards are there to be had. If we just bulldoze at it, there's nothing. Flippin' genius if you ask me.
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June 30, 2015, 10:15:28 AM |
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Sorry but that is simply not true. It doesn't matter what or how many devices are used for mining. As we can see, if too much hashrate is thrown at the blockchain the rewards just sink to near zero. A CPU farm or a GPU miner would have exactly the same effect. An army of Raspberry Pi would have exactly the same effect. The graph says it all. I really feel for Spexx and the others on this thread - the number of times I have seen this graph presented and the same questions answered again and again must be driving some of you to distraction. On a side note, I really feel we need to improve the http://coinmagi.org/ site to host this information. I really don't feel as it stands that it's a good reference point in terms of content and the way it is organised. That way it would be much easier for Spexx or the others who answer these questions to point to a link with this graph and a clear concise description and it might edumacate others (bulldowzers) who don't hang around here. On a separate note, rewards are hash rate limited, but rather than having the global hashrate being distributed amoung a large number of CPUs each getting a fair and MAGI-cal payout, now with these GPU miners very few people can effectively muscle out everyone else. What if their plan is to frustrate all the CPU guys away at the short term expense of their ROI? We end up with a war of attrition between people scrapping for control over the generation of XMG with no-one benefiting from it. I think a good option is to buy XMG while it is cheap because if the coin sees traction in the future it's only going to get harder and harder to mine. On this note, it's trading below 6000 on bittrex today - total bargain!
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June 30, 2015, 10:29:38 AM |
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That is a very good point. There have been a few days recently when I have made more XMG by staking than by mining and there is an awful lot of XMG for sale right now.
Hopefully, the bulldozers will simply tire of it and go elsewhere, because they cannot win. The community is too strong and we will resist the attempts to muscle-in.
There are plans afoot to improve our public image too, but these things take time. Keep the faith.
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June 30, 2015, 10:36:03 AM |
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Good words K1lo and Spexx. With the raise of btc the value of Magi (XMG) remains stable compared with $. Even a little raise! https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/magi
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June 30, 2015, 10:46:36 AM Last edit: June 30, 2015, 01:36:10 PM by Spexx |
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Talking about Bitcoin ... I couldn't resist selling some today. I bought a shed load at around $180 in February Oops - January - when it hit the floor. Kerching
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June 30, 2015, 11:00:41 AM |
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Talking about Bitcoin ... I couldn't resist selling some today. I bought a shed load at around $180 in February. Kerching Lol thats nice Spexx! Wish I did that also!
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June 30, 2015, 11:32:23 AM |
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And I am waitng till bitcoin would cost 500+ I've bought at 700 )
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June 30, 2015, 11:37:05 AM |
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The XMG price is really bouncy - for a few days now there has been a cycle of buying in the high 5xxxs and selling in the mid to high 6xxxs .. surprisingly easy to do On another note, I'm seeing a lot of panicky buying and selling of all currencies not just XMG.. people don't seem to realise if they don't lower their ASK prices then anyone who wants to buy in will either have to match that or put in a BUY someone can't refuse. However all I'm seeing is BUY and ASK values bouncing everywhere.. possibly as part of trade bots 'making' the market or people jostling with each other to put their order ahead of the others..
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June 30, 2015, 11:44:38 AM |
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And I am waitng till bitcoin would cost 500+ I've bought at 700 ) I'm in your range amigo
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June 30, 2015, 11:48:17 AM |
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Ha, something strange just happened over at my pool. The number of workers went from 88 -> 16 -> 86 in the space of a minute. But no other pool stats change! 70 odd 'active' works doing nothing? What gives?
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June 30, 2015, 01:45:40 PM |
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Magi XMG Proof of Interest II 2015 Launch 01-08-2015 Coin of the Magi the next generation digital currency! twitter @103tango Banks do give interest but not very much! Magi does this better! The Coin of the Magi is the digital currency of the future, fair unique and for all people living everywhere!
Rules for the Magi Proof of Interest II 2015!The base is very simple. Time period: The Proof of Interest will last two months.
When can I register to participate? Registration will be open: 01-07-2015
How do I sign up? Tell me that you want to join the PoI here: http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=3990.msg93574#msg93574 Registration is done by posting your XMG address replying here on Bitcoingarden or PM me here or in bitcoingarden.tk, cryptotalk.us, cryptos.us, cryptocointalk.com & altcoinsfoundation.com
What information should I include? Write your participating wallet XMG address in a reply here: http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=3990.msg93574#msg93574 (only one address allowed to join, all addresses will be made public at the end of registration in interest of fairness of the campaign.) (only one address a person allowed to join)
The team will check the address's initial balance, and that balance will start participating in the PoI. (After confirmation participant)
When will I receive my interest? Interest will be paid on 01-10-2015
What happens if I have more XMG in my wallet on 01-10-2015? You will receive interest on the amount present in your wallet on that date. (Advantage participant)
What happens if I have less XMG in my wallet on 01-10-2015? You will not receive any interest from campaign, if your initial balance has decreased more than 15% at the campaigns end! (Drawback participant)
What happens if I XMG have used to pay for goods? This has no negative effect on your interest. (Receipt required)
How will be interest distributed? The interest will be distributed by means of a specific calculation. This can be influenced by the number of participants, level of the fund and total number of coins that participate.Team will check addresses random and record the coins in that address. Based on that the interest calculation will be done!
Who will pay the interest for this Proof of Interest campaign? I received the donation of 25,000 XMG. (For the second time! Love this guy) On his request, the donor will remain anonymous! Payouts will be done by me.
Interest will be paid to the designated address wallet. Changes of participating address during the Proof of Interest is possible only once per user in the two months period (changing is not advisable, though). Exchanges or wallet address on an exchange are excluded from participation.
NOTE: The team reserves it's right to send a warning to a drawback member, that his balance is decrease more than 15% on their regular random balance checks.
If you have questions don't hesitate just ask me.
Register will open in 08:15 hours! Getting closer!
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June 30, 2015, 01:56:14 PM |
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people jostling with each other to put their order ahead of the others.
A classic trading error imho, even when one might be indulging in a bit of "scalping". It is better to hang back a fair bit and just wait. Patience is usually rewarded. If you insist on putting your bid/ask at the top of the pile, all it means is that you will be buying at a higher price than the next guy, or selling at a lower price than the next guy. You will not buy/sell coins any quicker unless you take somebody's price and be done with it. Buy low. Sell high. Not rocket science That problem you spotted on XMG pool is known technically as "a glitch" lol.
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