Scientific proof that God exists?

[XinXan]

+1, the old testament could have promoted death instead of forgiveness... oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it. The personality of god as you say could also be drastically different between the books that shows the inconsistency in the writing...oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it.

Don't be like BADecker.


^The above could literally be in a commercial.

God entirely promotes salvation forgiveness in the Old Testament. The reason that it seems to be revoked in places, is that the people involved entirely deny the salvation forgiveness for themselves. What other choice is there for them in any way? Either you are saved by the only salvation available... God's salvation. Or you are destroyed.

The offer of salvation by God is blaring forth to YOU. Yet, like the examples of many of the people of the Old Testament, you seem to be denying it. Wake up and accept. Don't be like they were. Choose salvation.

Promotes salvation forgiveness you say:

[BADecker]

Unfortunately badecker will still believe in the bible and probably just ignore my last point

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10889980#msg10889980

[BADecker]

What about this:

The drastic alteration of God’s personality is the quintessential biblical contradiction. His attitude goes from that of a vocal, evil, and vengeful god in the Old Testament to a silent, benevolent, and forgiving god in the New Testament. It’s ridiculous to imagine a perfect, eternal being undergoing this 180-degree makeover at some arbitrary and unverifiable point long in the past. The real reason behind this change is the Bible’s allowance of representation by no less than two dozen authors living centuries apart. Since fallible authors void of divine inspiration should have variant perspectives on the nature of God, we should not be surprised when we encounter the anomalous behavior change between the two testaments. Still, this doesn’t explain why people were applying this new personality to the Hebrew god at the start of the Common Era.
      The likely answer to this riddle may be related to the life cycle that all ancient religions have undergone. Belief systems must evolve with their followers or face extinction. Perhaps people grew tired of the threats made in the Pentateuch and felt there were no true rewards or consequences for their actions. Out of their desires for change, they may have created the Christian notion of Heaven. By this point, someone obviously grasped the notion that you could catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
      As I’ve said many times before, we have conflicting opinions on the omniscience, omnipotence, and omnipresence of God. Hosea would have us believe that God’s knowledge is limited: “They made princes: and I knew it not” (Hosea 8:4). Pentateuch author J would have us believe that God cannot be everywhere: “And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord” (Genesis 4:16). The author of Hebrews would have us believe that there are some things even God cannot do: “It was impossible for God to lie” (Hebrews 6:18). These passages fly in the face of everything that the Bible and contemporary Christians claim about God’s infinite qualities.
      Similarly, an omnipotent creator would have unlimited power. However, consider this ages old question: “Can God make a burrito hot enough that he can’t eat it?” This might seem silly at first, but it demonstrates a fundamental flaw in the existence of an omnipotent being. If he can eat any burrito he makes, he can’t make one hot enough; thus, he’s not omnipotent. If he makes one too hot to eat, he can’t bear the product of his own creation; thus, he’s not omnipotent. As I hope you realize from this illustration, an omnipotent being cannot exist. There can be no power strong enough to make squared circles, duplicated unique items, or any other interesting paradoxes that you can imagine.
      What about the human qualities of fury and fatigue? Can God experience these feelings? With the new biblical insight that you should have gained over the past few chapters, it should be immediately obvious that God has the capacity to become quite upset at times. Nahum provides us with a nice example: “God is jealous, and the Lord revengeth; the Lord revengeth, and is furious” (1:2). Even so, Isaiah unambiguously claims that God told him “fury is not in me” (27:4). If fury is not in him, how can he experience fury? Even though it may be superficially obvious that God wouldn’t experience fatigue, it wouldn’t be wise to jump to such a conclusion. According to Jeremiah, God says, “I am weary with repenting” (15:6). According to Isaiah, however, “The everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary” (40:28). Either God can experience fatigue or not. Either God can experience fury or not. Nahum, Isaiah, and Jeremiah simply presented their contrasting, divinely uninspired, human interpretations of their god. In the process, they inevitably end up contradicting one another.
      How about those who call out to this mysterious being? Will he always save them? Most Christians believe that God will acknowledge these cries for salvation because most Christians only read the New Testament. After all, Paul proclaims, “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Romans 10:13). Contrast that statement with the one given by Micah: “Then shall they cry unto the Lord, but he will not hear them” (3:4). In other words, Paul claims that God will save anyone who calls out for the Lord. However, Micah provides a specific situation in which Paul’s unconditional statement wouldn’t apply. Sure, one can try to assert that Paul was referring to the time before judgment while Micah was referring to the time after judgment, but this doesn’t validate Paul’s statement. He plainly tells us that whosoever calls to God will be saved. If we only had Paul’s statement to go on, and we were given the scenario of people crying out to the Lord as described in Micah, we could only assume that God would save them. Such an assumption would be contradictory to what Micah claims. If Paul was simply being careless with his diction, consider what other important information he might have neglected to mention.

This is not a change in God or of God. This is God responding, the same as always, to the changes in people.

What do you mean responding? Like he thought killing people was ok back then but now is not?

As an example, if you give your son or daughter an instruction to do something, and that there will be a reward for doing it but a punishment for not doing it...

... then, if your child does what you instructed, but stops halfway through and destroys what he or she already did according to your instructions ...

... what are you going to do? Do you reward them for carrying out your instructions, even though it was only partial? Or do you punish them for destroying the good they did do?

Who changed? You or your child?

Wake up and see that regarding God, God doesn't change. In the case of God, God doesn't have to formally destroy, since it is He that holds you alive. Since you are fighting Him and attempting to execute yourself by pushing away the only life you have, how long before He gives you what you ask for, even though it pains Him to have to do so?

[BADecker]

+1, the old testament could have promoted death instead of forgiveness... oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it. The personality of god as you say could also be drastically different between the books that shows the inconsistency in the writing...oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it.

Don't be like BADecker.


^The above could literally be in a commercial.

God entirely promotes salvation forgiveness in the Old Testament. The reason that it seems to be revoked in places, is that the people involved entirely deny the salvation forgiveness for themselves. What other choice is there for them in any way? Either you are saved by the only salvation available... God's salvation. Or you are destroyed.

The offer of salvation by God is blaring forth to YOU. Yet, like the examples of many of the people of the Old Testament, you seem to be denying it. Wake up and accept. Don't be like they were. Choose salvation.

Promotes salvation forgiveness you say:

Oh funny. The Bible is how many pages long? And you promote some little chart?

Keep it up. There is no limit to the mercy and grace God will have for you if turn to be on His side. But He won't keep you from pushing yourself away from His mercy and grace forever.

[XinXan]

+1, the old testament could have promoted death instead of forgiveness... oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it. The personality of god as you say could also be drastically different between the books that shows the inconsistency in the writing...oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it.

Don't be like BADecker.


^The above could literally be in a commercial.

God entirely promotes salvation forgiveness in the Old Testament. The reason that it seems to be revoked in places, is that the people involved entirely deny the salvation forgiveness for themselves. What other choice is there for them in any way? Either you are saved by the only salvation available... God's salvation. Or you are destroyed.

The offer of salvation by God is blaring forth to YOU. Yet, like the examples of many of the people of the Old Testament, you seem to be denying it. Wake up and accept. Don't be like they were. Choose salvation.

Promotes salvation forgiveness you say:

Oh funny. The Bible is how many pages long? And you promote some little chart?

Keep it up. There is no limit to the mercy and grace God will have for you if turn to be on His side. But He won't keep you from pushing yourself away from His mercy and grace forever.

Can you refute anything that says there? Then that proves how shitty and evil God is. And it doesnt matter how big the bible is, it shouldnt have anything like that in it.

[(oYo)]

+1, the old testament could have promoted death instead of forgiveness... oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it. The personality of god as you say could also be drastically different between the books that shows the inconsistency in the writing...oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it.

Don't be like BADecker.


^The above could literally be in a commercial.

God entirely promotes salvation forgiveness in the Old Testament. The reason that it seems to be revoked in places, is that the people involved entirely deny the salvation forgiveness for themselves. What other choice is there for them in any way? Either you are saved by the only salvation available... God's salvation. Or you are destroyed.

The offer of salvation by God is blaring forth to YOU. Yet, like the examples of many of the people of the Old Testament, you seem to be denying it. Wake up and accept. Don't be like they were. Choose salvation.

Promotes salvation forgiveness you say:

Oh funny. The Bible is how many pages long? And you promote some little chart?

Keep it up. There is no limit to the mercy and grace God will have for you if turn to be on His side. But He won't keep you from pushing yourself away from His mercy and grace forever.

Can you refute anything that says there? Then that proves how shitty and evil God is. And it doesnt matter how big the bible is, it shouldnt have anything like that in it.

Once again... and again... You cannot reason with faith.

BADecker is no different than from the rest of the "faithful" in his denial of acknowledging any reason that may contradict that faith.

[QuestionAuthority]

This is why I don't go to church. The women are all fugly and know the only way they'll get a man is if God miracles a blind one in to their bed.

[BADecker]

+1, the old testament could have promoted death instead of forgiveness... oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it. The personality of god as you say could also be drastically different between the books that shows the inconsistency in the writing...oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it.

Don't be like BADecker.


^The above could literally be in a commercial.

God entirely promotes salvation forgiveness in the Old Testament. The reason that it seems to be revoked in places, is that the people involved entirely deny the salvation forgiveness for themselves. What other choice is there for them in any way? Either you are saved by the only salvation available... God's salvation. Or you are destroyed.

The offer of salvation by God is blaring forth to YOU. Yet, like the examples of many of the people of the Old Testament, you seem to be denying it. Wake up and accept. Don't be like they were. Choose salvation.

Promotes salvation forgiveness you say:

Oh funny. The Bible is how many pages long? And you promote some little chart?

Keep it up. There is no limit to the mercy and grace God will have for you if turn to be on His side. But He won't keep you from pushing yourself away from His mercy and grace forever.

Can you refute anything that says there? Then that proves how shitty and evil God is. And it doesnt matter how big the bible is, it shouldnt have anything like that in it.

Once again... and again... You cannot reason with faith.

BADecker is no different than from the rest of the "faithful" in his denial of acknowledging any reason that may contradict that faith.

Am I ever finding that out! Atheists are some of the most blind, stuck-in-the-mud faithful that I have ever seen.

[BADecker]

This is why I don't go to church. The women are all fugly and know the only way they'll get a man is if God miracles a blind one in to their bed.

And that is more than ever true with all the women's liberation in the English speaking world. Can't trust those women.

[XinXan]

+1, the old testament could have promoted death instead of forgiveness... oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it. The personality of god as you say could also be drastically different between the books that shows the inconsistency in the writing...oh wait it does! And BADecker still believes in it.

Don't be like BADecker.


^The above could literally be in a commercial.

God entirely promotes salvation forgiveness in the Old Testament. The reason that it seems to be revoked in places, is that the people involved entirely deny the salvation forgiveness for themselves. What other choice is there for them in any way? Either you are saved by the only salvation available... God's salvation. Or you are destroyed.

The offer of salvation by God is blaring forth to YOU. Yet, like the examples of many of the people of the Old Testament, you seem to be denying it. Wake up and accept. Don't be like they were. Choose salvation.

Promotes salvation forgiveness you say:

Oh funny. The Bible is how many pages long? And you promote some little chart?

Keep it up. There is no limit to the mercy and grace God will have for you if turn to be on His side. But He won't keep you from pushing yourself away from His mercy and grace forever.

Can you refute anything that says there? Then that proves how shitty and evil God is. And it doesnt matter how big the bible is, it shouldnt have anything like that in it.

Once again... and again... You cannot reason with faith.

BADecker is no different than from the rest of the "faithful" in his denial of acknowledging any reason that may contradict that faith.

Am I ever finding that out! Atheists are some of the most blind, stuck-in-the-mud faithful that I have ever seen.

You still didnt refute anything, are you trying to ignore it?

[BADecker]

Am I ever finding that out! Atheists are some of the most blind, stuck-in-the-mud faithful that I have ever seen.

You still didnt refute anything, are you trying to ignore it?

Sounds great. You didn't either. But that's okay, isn't it? After all, this isn't a refuting thread.

In keeping within the topic of this this thread, the evidences alluded to at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are abundant proof that God exists.

[XinXan]

Am I ever finding that out! Atheists are some of the most blind, stuck-in-the-mud faithful that I have ever seen.

You still didnt refute anything, are you trying to ignore it?

Sounds great. You didn't either. But that's okay, isn't it? After all, this isn't a refuting thread.

In keeping within the topic of this this thread, the evidences alluded to at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are abundant proof that God exists.

The evidence here : https://i.imgur.com/kzZbW.jpg says otherwise

[BADecker]

Am I ever finding that out! Atheists are some of the most blind, stuck-in-the-mud faithful that I have ever seen.

You still didnt refute anything, are you trying to ignore it?

Sounds great. You didn't either. But that's okay, isn't it? After all, this isn't a refuting thread.

In keeping within the topic of this this thread, the evidences alluded to at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are abundant proof that God exists.

The evidence here : https://i.imgur.com/kzZbW.jpg says otherwise

Now, now. You know that the chart at your link above, has to do with what one of the religious books says about God. It is in a completely different league than proving whether or not God exists, and you know it.

[the joint]

I was curious if you realized that you implicated Genesis as "all mistake."

I wouldn't mind if you explained it to me. However, I am rather impatient. Please do it in as few words as possible.

Thanks.

Sure.

First you say:

...Quran is perfection of mistakes. In other words, it is entire mistake.

Then I point out:

...the Quran and the Bible are virtually identical up until the house of Abraham.

Therefore:

-  If the Quran is "all mistake," and...
-  If the Quran and Bible are initially identical...
-  Then the Bible is initially "all mistake"  (because it is initially identical to the Quran which you dscribed as "all mistake")

Thanks, again.

Actually, the reverse is true. Even if the beginning of Quran were exactly the same as the beginning of Genesis, the fact that the Quran is against the idea of Jesus salvation for all people, makes the Quran complete imperfection. Beyond this, it makes the Quran a book of blasphemy and hypocrisy. Why? In Genesis, after the first sin in the Garden, God who walked in the Garden in His form as Jesus with the first two people, promised the Messiah.

The whole Bible, including Genesis, is there for the salvation of people through Jesus salvation. Jesus is the Messiah that the Jews say is prophesied about by Moses and other prophets, even though many Jews don't accept Him as such.

Since the Quran promises Heaven (salvation) by personal works righteousness, if it has a mixture of Messiah salvation along with works righteousness salvation, it is mixed-up and self-contradictory.

You should be telling this to yourself, not to me.

If the reverse is true, then why did you say the opposite earlier?

Look, you contradicted yourself earlier and now you're disagreeing with what you had said.  Don't tell me "actually, the reverse is true" when the reverse is completely false based upon your earlier words.

All you're doing is essentially claiming you are right no matter what position you take or what you say.  It's not my fault you can't keep your thoughts organized.

[XinXan]

Am I ever finding that out! Atheists are some of the most blind, stuck-in-the-mud faithful that I have ever seen.

You still didnt refute anything, are you trying to ignore it?

Sounds great. You didn't either. But that's okay, isn't it? After all, this isn't a refuting thread.

In keeping within the topic of this this thread, the evidences alluded to at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are abundant proof that God exists.

The evidence here : https://i.imgur.com/kzZbW.jpg says otherwise

Now, now. You know that the chart at your link above, has to do with what one of the religious books says about God. It is in a completely different league than proving whether or not God exists, and you know it.

Not one of the religious books, THE RELIGIOUS BOOK. Disproving god is impossible, disproving the bible is possible and if you disprove the bible you disprove the bible god, easy as that

[Joshuar]

Am I ever finding that out! Atheists are some of the most blind, stuck-in-the-mud faithful that I have ever seen.

You still didnt refute anything, are you trying to ignore it?

Sounds great. You didn't either. But that's okay, isn't it? After all, this isn't a refuting thread.

In keeping within the topic of this this thread, the evidences alluded to at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are abundant proof that God exists.

BADecker is honestly just trolling now. No one can be this ignorant. Everything in that link has been shown incorrect, yet you continue to spam it. Troll behavior, you know you're entirely wrong...on well everything.

[Buffer Overflow]

I don't think he's trolling. It seems to me he fancied himself as some sort of important Bitcointalk religious guru, anyone can goto for advice. Obviously this plan exploded in his face.
I think he's dug himself into such a deep hole, that confused and frightened, he's just saying anything that pops into his head now.

 

[XinXan]

I don't think he's trolling. It seems to me he fancied himself as some sort of important Bitcointalk religious guru, anyone can goto for advice. Obviously this plan exploded in his face.
I think he's dug himself into such a deep hole, that confused and frightened, he's just saying anything that pops into his head now.

 

Im suprised the mods allow him to keep posting that link, spamming it over and over and when you show him evidence that the bible is a non sense he avoids talking about it and keeps posting his link

[BADecker]

Am I ever finding that out! Atheists are some of the most blind, stuck-in-the-mud faithful that I have ever seen.

You still didnt refute anything, are you trying to ignore it?

Sounds great. You didn't either. But that's okay, isn't it? After all, this isn't a refuting thread.

In keeping within the topic of this this thread, the evidences alluded to at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are abundant proof that God exists.

The evidence here : https://i.imgur.com/kzZbW.jpg says otherwise

Now, now. You know that the chart at your link above, has to do with what one of the religious books says about God. It is in a completely different league than proving whether or not God exists, and you know it.

Not one of the religious books, THE RELIGIOUS BOOK. Disproving god is impossible, disproving the bible is possible and if you disprove the bible you disprove the bible god, easy as that

I'm not sure - tell me straight out - if you are saying that God exists. Are you saying that?

[BADecker]

I don't think he's trolling. It seems to me he fancied himself as some sort of important Bitcointalk religious guru, anyone can goto for advice. Obviously this plan exploded in his face.
I think he's dug himself into such a deep hole, that confused and frightened, he's just saying anything that pops into his head now.

 

Im suprised the mods allow him to keep posting that link, spamming it over and over and when you show him evidence that the bible is a non sense he avoids talking about it and keeps posting his link

I'm surprised that the mods let you be so off-topic all the time.

Re-posting the link saves space. I could simply post all the information at the link every time. I am trying to be brief, yet stay on-topic.