[XMR] Monero Speculation

[kaeste]

I analyzed last 7-8 minutes of XMR trades on poloniex. Only bots are playing now and pumping the volume.

[36524s]

Where do normal people / buyers go to buy XMR?

This is the essential problem that has never been solved by any crypto.

[Digitalbitcoin]

Where do normal people / buyers go to buy XMR?

This is the essential problem that has never been solved by any crypto.

Normally people who are ware of cryptoworld having no trouble to buying any of altcoin within exchanger. But if have facing any other issue then have to consider by crypto.

[slapper]

I analyzed last 7-8 minutes of XMR trades on poloniex. Only bots are playing now and pumping the volume.

Too bad you cannot do anything about it, but pray or play poker here even after sciencing the shit out of it 

Ok guys, I'm officially done for some time. Volume decreased almost 3x since DM news, and the price is obviously getting manipulated at this moment. Will wait for a stable price around 0.005-0.0055. That has to be done. If not, DM vendors and customers will be afraid to use Monero, because of 30% daily jumps/dumps

See ya.

The problem isn't freedom of speech, as you alluded to here in your prior posts, it is that XMR is not Bitcoin where 100s and 1000s are playing with you in a Speculation thread and no one gets hurt. Here continual supply of morose posts are basically negative drivers.

Since it's a thread about a speculation, it's hard to have a discussion when people are constantly posting those reminders 'DO WHAT YOU WANT DONT LISTEN TO THE OTHERS'.

That's obvious - don't trust anyone, but let the other people write what they think - without that, this thread doesn't make really any sense.

Do you trade BTC-USD? Why not try your luck and skills there ?

[bitkilo]

Sorry i know this is a little off topic for this thread but can anybody tell me why this transaction has not shown up in my wallet yet:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/block/68091a841d418cf98f1385d2663816f9f3dc7afb679b99ca7edce5875c28506b

Please let me know if there is a Monero help thread and i will move this conversation there, thanks.

Edit: sorry i just realise i put the wrong link, this is the tx hash:
b4e5f56db223fd06e90b5ebc9b4360a38998f37ab850f0eea8fc88f9c90e6754

[aminorex]

7-8 minutes of XMR trades on poloniex. Only bots are playing now and pumping the volume.

Liquidity is a good thing.  Happy to see efficient liquidity providers providing easy on- and off- ramps for those using XMR in their free and private commerce.

[kaeste]

I analyzed last 7-8 minutes of XMR trades on poloniex. Only bots are playing now and pumping the volume.

Too bad you cannot do anything about it, but pray or play poker here even after sciencing the shit out of it  

Ok guys, I'm officially done for some time. Volume decreased almost 3x since DM news, and the price is obviously getting manipulated at this moment. Will wait for a stable price around 0.005-0.0055. That has to be done. If not, DM vendors and customers will be afraid to use Monero, because of 30% daily jumps/dumps

See ya.

The problem isn't freedom of speech, as you alluded to here in your prior posts, it is that XMR is not Bitcoin where 100s and 1000s are playing with you in a Speculation thread and no one gets hurt. Here continual supply of morose posts are basically negative drivers.

Since it's a thread about a speculation, it's hard to have a discussion when people are constantly posting those reminders 'DO WHAT YOU WANT DONT LISTEN TO THE OTHERS'.

That's obvious - don't trust anyone, but let the other people write what they think - without that, this thread doesn't make really any sense.

Do you trade BTC-USD? Why not try your luck and skills there ?

What's the problem? Did i lie somewhere? I'm a XMR enthusiast, but im also realist. If someone have different opinion and is pointing the facts, you're kicking him from XMR community? lol

[aminorex]

Where do normal people / buyers go to buy XMR?

This is the essential problem that has never been solved by any crypto.

In the u.k.you can use bank transfer at an exchange.  Probably easy to use for any European, until brexit rule changes, but I am not familiar with the facts in Europe.

Elsewhere, buy OTC, p2p, or get btc and exchange it, usually at poloniex.com.

As volume picks up and price rises, not exchanges will step in, and more p2p channels will open up.  If you want large amounts, talk to people who own large amounts.  See, for example #monero-otc on freenode.net IRC.

[dEBRUYNE]

Sorry i know this is a little off topic for this thread but can anybody tell me why this transaction has not shown up in my wallet yet:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/block/68091a841d418cf98f1385d2663816f9f3dc7afb679b99ca7edce5875c28506b

Please let me know if there is a Monero help thread and i will move this conversation there, thanks.

Edit: sorry i just realise i put the wrong link, this is the tx hash:
b4e5f56db223fd06e90b5ebc9b4360a38998f37ab850f0eea8fc88f9c90e6754

Which wallet are you using?

[bitkilo]

Sorry i know this is a little off topic for this thread but can anybody tell me why this transaction has not shown up in my wallet yet:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/block/68091a841d418cf98f1385d2663816f9f3dc7afb679b99ca7edce5875c28506b

Please let me know if there is a Monero help thread and i will move this conversation there, thanks.

Edit: sorry i just realise i put the wrong link, this is the tx hash:
b4e5f56db223fd06e90b5ebc9b4360a38998f37ab850f0eea8fc88f9c90e6754

Which wallet are you using?

Just using the freewallet.org that i downloaded from google play store, i know its probably not the best wallet and i don't even have the private keys but i only got 0.9xmr to play around with and probably send onto an exchange later, can anyone recommend a better wallet for a android phone?

Transaction went through, i have the coins.

[slapper]

What's the problem? Did i lie somewhere? I'm a XMR enthusiast, but im also realist. If someone have different opinion and is pointing the facts, you're kicking him from XMR community? lol

Nah, the realist term is to make yourself look smart in your own eyes. Most of us have seen bots for last few years so you are adding nothing to discussion. Most of us know about manipulation, nothing to add there. All of us know about charts and nonsense but we don't post about it here.

We don't know if you are lying or not since we don't have access to your trades, so we will have to take your word for it. From your posts, we see that you sold and are looking to get back in at 0.005 and now we will have to continually live with your faggotry till you get fucked in the ass one way or another. Who am I or anyone else to kick you out of a "community"? Keep faggoting here till you please, just don't cunt when you get called out for it. Kapisch ?  

[sparky999]

What's the problem? Did i lie somewhere? I'm a XMR enthusiast, but im also realist. If someone have different opinion and is pointing the facts, you're kicking him from XMR community? lol

Nah, the realist term is to make yourself look smart in your own eyes. Most of us have seen bots for last few years so you are adding nothing to discussion. Most of us know about manipulation, nothing to add there. All of us know about charts and nonsense but we don't post about it here.

We don't know if you are lying or not since we don't have access to your trades, so we will have to take your word for it. From your posts, we see that you sold and are looking to get back in at 0.005 and now we will have to continually live with your faggotry till you get fucked in the ass one way or another. Who am I or anyone else to kick you out of a "community"? Keep faggoting here till you please, just don't cunt when you get called out for it. Kapisch ?  

This is not the voice of the Monero community I have come to respect.

I really hope higher prices do not lead to more name calling and in fighting in this community.

[Anon136]

What's the problem? Did i lie somewhere? I'm a XMR enthusiast, but im also realist. If someone have different opinion and is pointing the facts, you're kicking him from XMR community? lol

Nah, the realist term is to make yourself look smart in your own eyes. Most of us have seen bots for last few years so you are adding nothing to discussion. Most of us know about manipulation, nothing to add there. All of us know about charts and nonsense but we don't post about it here.

We don't know if you are lying or not since we don't have access to your trades, so we will have to take your word for it. From your posts, we see that you sold and are looking to get back in at 0.005 and now we will have to continually live with your faggotry till you get fucked in the ass one way or another. Who am I or anyone else to kick you out of a "community"? Keep faggoting here till you please, just don't cunt when you get called out for it. Kapisch ?  

This is not the voice of the Monero community I have come to respect.

I really hope higher prices do not lead to more name calling and in fighting in this community.

It looks pretty atypical to me. Just ignore him kaeste.

[Febo]

Sorry i know this is a little off topic for this thread but can anybody tell me why this transaction has not shown up in my wallet yet:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/block/68091a841d418cf98f1385d2663816f9f3dc7afb679b99ca7edce5875c28506b

Please let me know if there is a Monero help thread and i will move this conversation there, thanks.

Edit: sorry i just realise i put the wrong link, this is the tx hash:
b4e5f56db223fd06e90b5ebc9b4360a38998f37ab850f0eea8fc88f9c90e6754

fastest help you will get if you wil go here: http://webchat.freenode.net/  type in your nick and chanel: #monero and connect.

[nioc]

What's the problem? Did i lie somewhere? I'm a XMR enthusiast, but im also realist. If someone have different opinion and is pointing the facts, you're kicking him from XMR community? lol

Nah, the realist term is to make yourself look smart in your own eyes. Most of us have seen bots for last few years so you are adding nothing to discussion. Most of us know about manipulation, nothing to add there. All of us know about charts and nonsense but we don't post about it here.

We don't know if you are lying or not since we don't have access to your trades, so we will have to take your word for it. From your posts, we see that you sold and are looking to get back in at 0.005 and now we will have to continually live with your faggotry till you get fucked in the ass one way or another. Who am I or anyone else to kick you out of a "community"? Keep faggoting here till you please, just don't cunt when you get called out for it. Kapisch ?  

This is not the voice of the Monero community I have come to respect.

I really hope higher prices do not lead to more name calling and in fighting in this community.

slapper has been around but I have never considered him part of the "community".  Some people are here just as traders which ofc is fine.  I see no reason not to be civil.

Anyway good luck getting back in @ 0.005-0.0055, don't think that's happening.  I don't talk my book as I don't trade but have actively followed the price and all else for 2 years.  I will be buying if it gets into the 600s but that will not affect anybody in the least.

Again what ever happens is just fine by me.

[rpietila]

I was trolling in the trollbox last night (my nick there is HM_The_King).

One guy wrote: "Nobody cares what you think about XMR".

I felt good  Seems that we have a new generation.

[nanobrain]

I analyzed last 7-8 minutes of XMR trades on poloniex. Only bots are playing now and pumping the volume.

Too bad you cannot do anything about it, but pray or play poker here even after sciencing the shit out of it 

Ok guys, I'm officially done for some time. Volume decreased almost 3x since DM news, and the price is obviously getting manipulated at this moment. Will wait for a stable price around 0.005-0.0055. That has to be done. If not, DM vendors and customers will be afraid to use Monero, because of 30% daily jumps/dumps

See ya.

The problem isn't freedom of speech, as you alluded to here in your prior posts, it is that XMR is not Bitcoin where 100s and 1000s are playing with you in a Speculation thread and no one gets hurt. Here continual supply of morose posts are basically negative drivers.

Since it's a thread about a speculation, it's hard to have a discussion when people are constantly posting those reminders 'DO WHAT YOU WANT DONT LISTEN TO THE OTHERS'.

That's obvious - don't trust anyone, but let the other people write what they think - without that, this thread doesn't make really any sense.

Do you trade BTC-USD? Why not try your luck and skills there ?

What's the problem? Did i lie somewhere? I'm a XMR enthusiast, but im also realist. If someone have different opinion and is pointing the facts, you're kicking him from XMR community? lol

Kaeste,
I almost replied to your original post but thought better of it.
While I don't condone people being unduly aggressive, you haven't exactly helped yourself. Your assertions about lower volume and manipulation suggest you are new and inexperienced in crypto, while saying you are "out" then returning to add useless comments could be seen as provocative.

Every day is not a dramatic, to the moon day, volume rises volume falls, bots always take over the market when Europe and the US are asleep, there are big players there are small players and the big boys manipulate the market as they do every aspect of your life (learn to live with it) - what you think is 'realism' can be interpreted very differently by others.

Perhaps frame your comments as questions rather than definitive statements and you may not be interpreted quite so ....confrontationally?

[nanobrain]

I was trolling in the trollbox last night (my nick there is HM_The_King).

One guy wrote: "Nobody cares what you think about XMR".

I felt good  Seems that we have a new generation.

A new generation you will be relieving of their cash* Risto

*in the nicest, most civilised, educational manner of course

[explorer]

I was trolling in the trollbox last night (my nick there is HM_The_King).

One guy wrote: "Nobody cares what you think about XMR".

I felt good  Seems that we have a new generation.

 anonymity at last

[aminorex]

What's the problem? Did i lie somewhere? I'm a XMR enthusiast, but im also realist. If someone have different opinion and is pointing the facts, you're kicking him from XMR community? lol

I think most have slapper on ignore, so it's hard for me to think of him as part of the community.  But I suppose he is, just as the sewer is part of the city, but we don't think about it unless it overflows.

your "realism" seems unduly pessimistic.  0055 seems quite unreachable to me unless a large holders decides to divest some significant % of the float - which seems insanely stupid to do unless they have significant private information.

We seem to have found the stability you desired, but at the 007-0075 range, instead.

My own realism was pretty good - I had estimated this level previously - until the last high spike which was so strong that I reset my expectations to the unrealistically high 012 stabilization level.  Clearly I should have resisted the manic euphoria of that last move, in order to reason accurately.  Live and learn.

012 will probably be the next stable level, however, unless traffic is unexpectedly high in the first week of September.  I don't think it will be.

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/06/06/german-police-arrests-marketplace-user-bought-weed-silk-road-years-ago/