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Could it be the tari kicking in? wasn't that going o be a bit eth style and assisting the Monero chain?
By your description maybe the bsv is trying to be the 5 years time bitcoin (forever poisoned in my mind by the bad actors)
I hate to give BSV legitimacy by even naming it such.. and I agree the actors are beyond bad. But if you are a big blocker... it is the chain that takes that notion to it's conclusion.
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December 20, 2020, 09:12:48 PM |
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There is no incentive for anyone to pay for a transaction other than to move XMR.
I believe most of the transaction volume growth is organic, however, this statement is not strictly true. The privacy features of XMR provide incentive for attackers to transact in an attempt to weaken the privacy. Lets not forget the IRS bounty on tracking Monero. Gavin visited the CIA in 2011. The Snowden leaks revealed the NSA was tracking bitcoin users as early as 2013. In 2018 the department of defence ran war game scenarios involving a Bitcoin rebellion. If the public even becomes aware of these initiatives it is typically years later. Rest assured the public IRS announcement is not the only well resourced adversary trying to unravel Monero privacy. They are guaranteed to be running nodes, making transactions, monitoring the networking layer, collecting metadata, and tracking outputs. This is a tremendous point. And correct. And oversight on my part. But still bullish really... because why spend the time and money if it is not worth it. Hello. Have you met government?
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December 20, 2020, 11:09:00 PM |
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There is no incentive for anyone to pay for a transaction other than to move XMR.
I believe most of the transaction volume growth is organic, however, this statement is not strictly true. The privacy features of XMR provide incentive for attackers to transact in an attempt to weaken the privacy. Lets not forget the IRS bounty on tracking Monero. Gavin visited the CIA in 2011. The Snowden leaks revealed the NSA was tracking bitcoin users as early as 2013. In 2018 the department of defence ran war game scenarios involving a Bitcoin rebellion. If the public even becomes aware of these initiatives it is typically years later. Rest assured the public IRS announcement is not the only well resourced adversary trying to unravel Monero privacy. They are guaranteed to be running nodes, making transactions, monitoring the networking layer, collecting metadata, and tracking outputs. This is a tremendous point. And correct. And oversight on my part. But still bullish really... because why spend the time and money if it is not worth it. Hello. Have you met government? Also a very good point. But fact is they are scared of it. There are very few technologies more important that ones that preserve privacy. With the governments of the world going into nuclear privacy destruction mode I am glad there is some flicker of hope somewhere.
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They would need to make a lot of transactions to be successful. And once ring signature will raise it will make their work exponentially harder. Also lets say two agencies want to do this attack. KGB and CIA. While one of them is adding transactions it is just making other agency work harder.
I doubt it is the large scale attack Anonymity outlined in his 2017 hit piece. As you point out, with modern ring sizes and more than one attacker it becomes impossible. However, they are almost certainly dusting wallets of interest.
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December 21, 2020, 06:05:25 AM |
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And where is that damned Schnauzer, anyway.. 0.00635 is low enough.
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December 21, 2020, 08:49:27 AM |
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And where is that damned Schnauzer, anyway.. 0.00635 is low enough.
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We will see, but i think my buy orders for 0,0063 will be filled latest by tomorrow
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December 21, 2020, 10:32:28 AM |
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And where is that damned Schnauzer, anyway.. 0.00635 is low enough.
Schnauzero located
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December 21, 2020, 10:37:53 AM |
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Could it be the tari kicking in? wasn't that going o be a bit eth style and assisting the Monero chain?
By your description maybe the bsv is trying to be the 5 years time bitcoin (forever poisoned in my mind by the bad actors)
I hate to give BSV legitimacy by even naming it such.. and I agree the actors are beyond bad. But if you are a big blocker... it is the chain that takes that notion to it's conclusion. But by the time its needed other things (BTC) will have evolved anyway right? no one else is glued to the pasts Monero come on do something for xmas All the best to everyone for the season. Ill toast a glass with you next year I guess.
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December 21, 2020, 11:39:52 AM |
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And where is that damned Schnauzer, anyway.. 0.00635 is low enough.
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We will see, but i think my buy orders for 0,0063 will be filled latest by tomorrow Almost 80% of my 0,0063 order was filled, canceled the rest of 0,0063 and placed the rest of BTC on 0,00625 At the moment speaking i am a happy Monerofellow
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December 21, 2020, 03:12:47 PM |
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Could it be the tari kicking in? wasn't that going o be a bit eth style and assisting the Monero chain?
By your description maybe the bsv is trying to be the 5 years time bitcoin (forever poisoned in my mind by the bad actors)
I hate to give BSV legitimacy by even naming it such.. and I agree the actors are beyond bad. But if you are a big blocker... it is the chain that takes that notion to it's conclusion. But by the time its needed other things (BTC) will have evolved anyway right? no one else is glued to the pasts Monero come on do something for xmas All the best to everyone for the season. Ill toast a glass with you next year I guess. Yes understanding BTC as base money and the the tech on top as scaling is not something even Satoshi had figured out, though Hal got it very early on. I agree I would love to see Monero light up the tree.
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December 21, 2020, 04:28:21 PM |
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^ That would be really nice.. Not holding my breath tho.
Could it be the tari kicking in? wasn't that going o be a bit eth style and assisting the Monero chain?
By your description maybe the bsv is trying to be the 5 years time bitcoin (forever poisoned in my mind by the bad actors)
What do you mean? I haven't been following the space as closely as I did before for quite a long time but I thought Tari was still in testnet.
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December 23, 2020, 07:16:22 AM |
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And where is that damned Schnauzer, anyway.. 0.00635 is low enough.
Schnauzero located I don't think that is the correct dog.
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December 23, 2020, 12:26:45 PM |
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The pattern is reeeaal. I noticed this happenning for like a couple of times now. Whenever BTC shows weakness, XMR picks up its own pace and starts going up vs BTC... I guess when BTC starts going up we should start trading XMR for that then vice versa?
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December 23, 2020, 01:44:14 PM |
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And where is that damned Schnauzer, anyway.. 0.00635 is low enough.
Schnauzero located I don't think that is the correct dog. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SchnauzerThe dog in the photo is a schnauzer. Maybe not the one humping your leg right now, but it's a schnauzer. In Esperanto, the proper language for all things Monero, la hundo estas ŝnaucero(for us Anglophones, that transliterates to schnauzero)
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December 23, 2020, 01:51:51 PM |
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The pattern is reeeaal. I noticed this happenning for like a couple of times now. Whenever BTC shows weakness, XMR picks up its own pace and starts going up vs BTC... I guess when BTC starts going up we should start trading XMR for that then vice versa?
Until the wind suddenly shifts. This new dog might be picking up the old tricks
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December 24, 2020, 06:34:12 PM |
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Our lil buddy continues to live out of sync with the rest of the market. I actually LOVE this. I am not sure why exactly... but I do. I feel like it means something good, lol.
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December 25, 2020, 02:39:49 PM |
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^ I love it cos XMR/BTC is just there waiting while I got my action on the other more pumpy alts. I wanna get lucky and hold a decent amount of XMR by the time it really starts trending against BTC and flippen other alts on its way to hopefully the top 5.
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December 27, 2020, 03:37:20 AM |
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We broke under the oft visited bottom end trend line. Doom?
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December 27, 2020, 04:45:37 AM |
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We broke under the oft visited bottom end trend line. Doom?
I'm not feeling doom. It broke below the line, but it seems eager to rebound, and the $ price keeps drifting up. Plus I still have open buy orders
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