Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[nibbknot]

It is interesting that nibbknot was interested enough to look up my old posts though :-) I'm not sure if I should be honored or scared for my life.

Probably scared for my life is the prudent course of action.

My mistake. You moved from California to Colorado I guess. I was just using eBay to make the connection. That is how I found you now here... http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-denver/members/110640/ And don't get me started on that Centernix crowd funding thing that you just happened to find but really it's you here... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281216.0 Ain't it amazing how the biggest liars always seem to get their equipment first while others wait and wait and wait thanks to the company being kind enough to make sure it's working properly before shipping and if they do ship it's obsolete.

Dude - what are you even on about?

Nothing! But now am curious as to when Jiles was in China.





And why he doesn't look like this guy... https://myspace.com/nexus99/photos



At least I learned why Jiles moved from California to Colorado like Matt/Bob did from Missouri to Colorado... http://www.hightimes.com/read/11-hints-you-might-be-dating-your-bong ... To get a mile HIGH!

[nexus99]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You sound familiar. Doing weird P.I. stuff about where people move to and other random nonsense. Phinneus Gauge?

Its total PG.

[nexus99]

Ain't it amazing how the biggest liars always seem to get their equipment first while others wait and wait and wait thanks to the company being kind enough to make sure it's working properly before shipping and if they do ship it's obsolete.

Actually,  its those that preorder the earliest and live the closest that get equipment first. Don't be so jealous! I thought you didn't know much about this bitcoin stuff?

Nothing! But now am curious as to when Jiles was in China.

Hookers and blow! Or maybe vacation. Or maybe I was exporting all the BFL Monarchs to China. Or MAYBE I AM IN CHINA NOW. BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

And why he doesn't look like this guy... https://myspace.com/nexus99/photos

Yeah yeah... compare me to a 15 year old myspace photo. I admit I was pretty handsome back then.

I should really try to figure out how to whack that account. I suppose things do follow you around forever on the Internet.

Edit - I totally whacked the old myspace account. Under reason I listed "Bitcoin Stalkers".

At least I learned why Jiles moved from California to Colorado like Matt/Bob did from Missouri to Colorado... http://www.hightimes.com/read/11-hints-you-might-be-dating-your-bong ... To get a mile HIGH!

I did move in January... coincidence?

Oh, I also reported the post to the board moderators. Stalking people on the internet really isn't very cool. My wife is freaking out and is jumping to all kinds of conclusions about you.

[nexus99]

Trust me I'm not Phinneus Gauge or PG or Phinnaeus Gage (had to look up the right spelling). I worked at Butterfly labs and was only helping out those guys when I found a link to this mining company and after reading a bit I saw parallells. This one seems to be a worser scam than bfl. Not sure but did find a Romanian connection... http://www.weblo.com/member/NeXuS999

About NeXuS999
I'm a normal guy with a normal life i live in one of the most beautifull countries in the world Romania..i like very much playing computer games and listen to the music.

And click the link...

http://www.weblo.com/user_gallery/121610/1/NeXuS999/

That guy looks bad ass right?

[nibbknot]

Damn,you must live next door,I thought the just got them a few hours ago! They didn't give you a power cord at all?

I live about an hour from Minersource. Work about 30 minutes from there.

At Envision for the past 9 years?... https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=14072758&authType=name&authToken=LsGa&trk=prof-sb-browse_map-name And speak Thai? And have a sick partner named Sean?

[notbatman]

I stuffed a rabbit in a hat. Now both the hat and the rabbit are missing.

[Pentax]

I also placed my order before resellers were introduced and I have not had any shipping info from BA. Its a little unfair that resellers are getting getting their orders before other people that have ordered before them.

I don't think I'll order from BA again, It was the same experience I got from BFL but at least they sent orders in kind of payment order.

hell no, this has been a total shit-show. 

[Pentax]

As per Chinese consumer Law

Advance Payments

Advance payments, installment payments, and other transactions involving merchants’
management of consumer funds will require the establishment of earmarked, trusteeship
accounts at commercial banks.

where is people's money Black Arrrow?  why are refunds not being issued?

[OgNasty]

This is a Facebook post from today

"Minersource.net We did not ship any units yesturday, only a few local pickups. First units will be shipped to customers today, continuing for the next 2 weeks or till everyone has their unit.
Like · 1 · 2 hours ago"

Seems like the majority will not receive X-1's until at least 1 more difficulty change.

Is this only for the X-1's or are they finally going to be shipping the X-3's as well?  What if an order has both X-1's and X-3's?  Are they waiting to ship the entire order together, or sending out what they can as they have it built?

[Pentax]

http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20140315/103830.shtml

China’s amended law on consumer rights takes effect on Saturday, World Consumer Rights Day. The new version strengthens regulations on the e-commerce industry.

It allows consumers the right to return goods they bought via the Internet, television, telephone or mail orders within seven days from the date of receipt. It also specifies that delivery fees for returning the product shall be borne by the consumer, who should be paid back within a week after the seller receives the returned goods.
This is known as the "seven-day unconditional return."




Fine, send me my miner, so I can send it back, at which point you have 7 days to refund my money.  Either way the refund goes out. 

It's time to stop playing games, Black Arrow.

[DebitMe]

Wait, bobsag, weeks? Over the next few weeks? I thought you'd said all batch one orders would be sent out a few days after you got your shipment. I don't mean to be snippy or anything but I just want to know where my expectation should be.

Bottom line - my order no is between 1250 and 1300, batch 1. When should I expect shipment. Please and thank you.

Dude, im order number #12x .. Should you get your order before me just because you bought from MS ?

MS order numbers do not match up in line with BA order numbers.

[OgNasty]

Be sure to take a look inside your units and capture pictures of built up dust when you receive them.  I'd love to see a comparison of a unit coming directly from BA as opposed to MS.

[Pentax]

I can't wait for the Friday update. Hope there is news about shipping X-3. They are way late especially after they talked about being on schedule or ahead of schedule.

Forget it.  Do yourself a favor and expect the Thursday update (That is now the Friday update) to say that they are waiting on the manufacturer of the backplanes and expect to receive them late next week with shipping to begin the following week.

bullseye

[notbatman]

Bitcoin Difficulty:   13,462,580,115
Estimated Next Difficulty:   17,479,523,014 (+29.84%)
Adjust time:   After 743 Blocks, About 4.0 days

[DebitMe]

Bobsag3 so seeing as I didn't get tracking info when will the next batch arrive to you.

I received a reply to this from Bobsag, and was told that units would be sent out Friday/Monday (more than likely Monday is my guess).

[DebitMe]

kingcolex that would do me fine.

It would me to, but lets see what they end up deciding on, honestly i don't expect ANYTHING lower than 100% but it should definitely be 200% (as an x2 would probably be close on price for them to manufactor (no lcd, have all inhouse parts just a throw together and go))

That would be too easy though

I have ass expect a DIY kit to come in the mail as compensation, where you put the chips on the board yourself LOL.

But you have to buy the chips and pay for shipping...

[Pentax]

There's some evidence of what is really going on here from the ecointalk forum. They're "working" on 14nm, which basically confirms that we are exactly in the position of 55nm BFL customers waiting for delivery via a Ponzi on Monarch orders. Expect the compensation to only happen after preorders for the next project to open up.

so is Intel currently working on a 14 nm chip and just unveiled it this month.  there are limitations that make this difficult even for a giant such as Intel.

these guys are full of crap.  anyone that believes this latest pitch about an uber efficient 14nm chip, or anything else they say, isn't paying attention at all to this thread or the last 6+ months of bullshit coming out of these people.

[nibbknot]

Why is MS getting orders shipped to him?

There are quite a few of us who ordered and paid back in September last year before MS was even a re-seller.

My order is mid thirties, I have opened tickets saying I don't care if its RPI, ceaseless, no LCD.
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY ORDER?

This is infuriating!

Did you miss the part where you were dealing with a crook Romanian?

For the fews days I've been here I've learned to not deal with Romanians, Bulgarians, or guys whose initials are J.Z.



If this guy approached you and offered a bitcoin miner pre-order sale you wouldn't give him a cent. Yet you guys sent money half way around the world to a stranger who has a website (that is all) and not even know who runs it till recently and wonder why you got screwed.

[DebitMe]

It's simple really. Minersource is subject to lawsuits since they're in the US. If they go down because of BA, no other reseller will ever touch them.

Bobsag has said that all of batch 1 will be shipped next Monday, that's the absolute last straw for me in terms of dates and leveraging the risk in accepting these units and what I think compensation will be.  No tracking on Monday = Refund email will be sent.  (Bobsag, if you think it may be Tuesday, let us know now and I'll give you a day grace period, otherwise there isn't much I can do come Monday with no tracking)  I think I have been pretty reasonable up to this point, but as these dates that, "all of batch 1 will be shipped by XX" continue to be proclaimed, I am losing interest in these machines.  Their expected ROI is negative as it is, the only saving grace is a compensation package that is worth it, but hope for anything worth while is quickly fading, and the risk is getting past my tolerance level.

[DebitMe]

So is the compensation for poor people like me that only ordered a single batch 1 X1 unit from Minersource still effectively zero? I don't call a buy 2 get one free offer really compensation as it requires further outlay, it's more of a discount coupon promo then true compensation.


 

As of right now, the compensation for everyone is 0 as they, "review the compensation once shipping is in full swing."  Who knows what that means or when it will be.