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“Sh*tty Christians”: Militant Muslim youths storm a Christmas service at a Church in Mönchengladbach, GermanyThis is Europe, not the Middle East. *Crickets chirping* in parliaments, political chambers and newsrooms across the world. Will the islamofauxbia never end? Meanwhile, across the pond, the intrepid FBI is chasing down the bacon-bandito. “Sh*tty Christians”: Belligerent Muslim youths storm a Christmas service at a Church in Mönchengladbach »Scheiß Christen«: Randalierende Muslime stürmen in Mönchengladbach eine Kirche – Kopp Online Only one of the youths was even 14 years old, the other 5 were just young children. Nonetheless, they behaved like adult radical extremists. The young Muslims stormed the Rheydter Marien Church in Mönchengladbach on Christmas Eve. They interrupted the manger festival by running through the halls during the service, all the while yelling and cursing at churchgoers saying, “Shitty Christians!” And what happened after that? Not much beyond a small article in a local paper. Imagine it were the other way around: wild Christian children storming into a mosque and abusing praying Muslims! 50 minutes later there would have been an emergency news break during the daily television programming…special edition pages in FAZ and the Süddeutsche Zeitung would have gone to press. … The reflex of the mainstream media? It was Muslims so all is silent…there were only a few who showed civil courage in the church. One of the church members nabbed two of the children in the heat of the moment. Later a police detail released the two to their parents at a nearby McDonalds. The pastor Manfred Riethdorf (Photo: right) doesn’t want to let the matter go so lightly, and files a formal complaint against the 14-yr-old for disturbance of the peace. This is likely because he doesn’t believe it was just a stupid youthful prank. “Shitty Christians.” And especially at Christmas? How do these young Muslims know what their actions will invoke? Their parents or other adults must have infected them with this knowledge. If adult Muslims had stormed the church, they would not have been let off so easily without punishment. Against minor children one cannot do much. Is this all a coincidence or were the children sent like an instrument of religious extremism? Upon direct questioning, the police refused to confirm the religious background of the young offenders. The pastor himself energetically replied: “I explained clearly to them, how one should act in a church. Possibly tomorrow I will try to establish contact with their parents to discuss this event with them and their children.” The police have not shown as much initiative. The relationship between Christians and Muslims in Mönchengladbach is tense, otherwise this would not have happened, but up until now the media have still not reported on the event. Official Muslim leaders have said nothing and the local politicians are silent. No one wants to throw oil on a fire. Silence is falsely understood consideration. To talk about the issue would call integration politics into question. There would be an international media echo if Germany tried to discuss (such behavior) of Muslims gone wild. One must also see: He who presses (the issue), will confirm the fears of “concerned citizens.” They feel that life with Muslims in Germany has become more difficult, but one does not talk about it. Now so called “concerned citizens” see their worries again confirmed. (Note – “concerned citizens” or “besorgte Bürger” is a buzz word in Germany for right-wing extremists) Another article (here) suggests that Pastor Riethdorf suggests this incident should lead to a community culture of discussion. Yes, more inter-faith dialogue. That’s the ticket. http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/shtty-christians-militant-muslim-youths-storm-a-christmas-service-at-a-church-in-monchengladbach-germany.html/
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.... Silence is falsely understood consideration. To talk about the issue would call integration politics into question. There would be an international media echo if Germany tried to discuss (such behavior) of Muslims gone wild. One must also see: He who presses (the issue), will confirm the fears of “concerned citizens.” They feel that life with Muslims in Germany has become more difficult, but one does not talk about it. Now so called “concerned citizens” see their worries again confirmed. (Note – “concerned citizens” or “besorgte Bürger” is a buzz word in Germany for right-wing extremists) Another article (here) suggests that Pastor Riethdorf suggests this incident should lead to a community culture of discussion. Yes, more inter-faith dialogue. That’s the ticket. http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/shtty-christians-militant-muslim-youths-storm-a-christmas-service-at-a-church-in-monchengladbach-germany.html/What's telling is not the community attitude, and neither the attitude of the police, but the silence - and hence approval - of the local Muslim community of these actions. That's the way they do it. Good little Jihad boys.
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I respect all the religions because no one preach the bad things. I just want that if you talk about any group (indivisual) like ISIS or Taliban, never think that is the Islam. please
Do you respect the religions Mohammed destroyed when he and his followers captured Mecca?
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If Israel is destroyed, I will devote the rest of my life to the extermination of the human species. Any species that goes down this road again less than 100 years after the holocaust needs to be fucking wiped out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Affair_of_the_Gang_of_BarbariansIlan Halimi: tortured and murdered in France by barbarian Jew haters who'd be very comfortable here at bitcointalk.
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I respect all the religions because no one preach the bad things. I just want that if you talk about any group (indivisual) like ISIS or Taliban, never think that is the Islam. please
Do you respect the religions Mohammed destroyed when he and his followers captured Mecca? Genghis Khan allowed people of other religions to remain in their religion. He allowed Islam to remain, rather than destroying people for following it. I wonder if this was the reason that his kingdom was ultimately broken after he passed. Temujin (Genghis Khan) conquered way more way faster than Muhammad could have even dreamed. Yet, he allowed people he conquered to maintain the religion of their choice. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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It has sometimes been suggested that belief in Divine revelation, and acceptance of revealed truth, tend towards intellectual rigidity and narrowness. The exact reverse is the truth. Revelation stimulates the intellect and opens all manner of avenues for the research and expansion of knowledge. The constant and repeated exhortation to reflect upon and ponder every type of natural phenomenon, with which the Quran abounds, is an express urge in that direction.
History furnishes incontrovertible proof of this. Within an astonishingly brief period following the revelation of the Quran, darkness and confusion were dispelled over vast areas of the earth, order was established, all manner of beneficent institutions sprang into life, a high moral order was set up, and the blessings of knowledge, learning, and science began to be widely diffused. Human intellect, which for some centuries had been almost frozen into inactivity, experienced a sudden release and upsurge, and the world experienced an astounding revolution, material, moral, and spiritual. This was no freak occurrence, no sudden flare-up followed by an even more sudden collapse. It was a phenomenon characterized by strength, beneficence, and endurance. It fulfilled to a pre-eminent degree the needs and yearnings of the human body, intellect, and soul. It changed the course of human history. It flung wide open the gates of knowledge and progress in all directions. Its impact continues to be felt today through many and diverse channels.
The Quran describes itself as a light and as a clear Book, whereby does Allah guide those who seek His pleasure along the paths of peace, and leads them out of every kind of darkness into the light by His will, and guides them along the right path (5:16-17).
On the other hand, the Quran itself discouraged the tendency to seek regulation of everything by Divine command, pointing out that such a regulation would become restrictive and burdensome (5:102).
One of many characteristics of the Quran which marks it as the Word of God is that to arrive at the comprehension of its deeper meaning and significance, the seeker must, in addition to a certain degree of knowledge of the language and the principles of interpretation, cultivate purity of thought and action. The greater the purity of a person's life, the deeper and wider will be his comprehension of the meaning of the Quran (56:80).
Let me remind you of something that is coming from the Galatians 4:22 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise. 24 These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. 27 For it is written: “Be glad, barren woman, you who never bore a child; shout for joy and cry aloud, you who were never in labor; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband.” I don't have nothing against the Prophet Mohamed because he should be placed in Old Testament together with the other Prophets! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Well, behind the pretense of authenticity from the Old Book Quote, this is utter nonsense and has no meaning at all. Really? Then what is authentically for you? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I will share you some facts just to see where the Bible is coming from....... Bah. You are no scholar of old books. You have no authority and make numerous mistakes in understanding and logic. I am not a scholar of old books... Really? Then tell me what is Anthropology? By the way, you think that you can really use the word Logic in order to say that this facts are non-sense? “We are already here, among you. Some of us have always been here, with you, yet apart from, watching, and occasionally guiding you whenever the opportunity arose.”
According to Brinsley Le Poer Trench, editor of Flying Saucer Review, this otherworldly message appeared for the first time in a 1947 issue of Fanatic Stories written by an author under the pseudonym “Alexander Blade”. Curiously, it was made available only a few months after one of the most talked-about UFO incidents: Roswell.
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.... I am not a scholar of old books... Really? Then tell me what is Anthropology? By the way, you think that you can really use the word Logic in order to say that this facts are non-sense?
“We are already here, among you. Some of us have always been here, with you, yet apart from, watching, and occasionally guiding you whenever the opportunity arose.”
According to Brinsley Le Poer Trench, editor of Flying Saucer Review, this otherworldly message appeared for the first time in a 1947 issue of Fanatic Stories written by an author under the pseudonym “Alexander Blade”. Curiously, it was made available only a few months after one of the most talked-about UFO incidents: Roswell.
Oh, changing the subject from"Why hate Islam" to your own crackpot religious ideas and then to UFOs? Okay.
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Ameer Abu-Hammad allegedly asked agents if they would search his phone for “other stuff” after he posted about jihad on Facebook. Oops. A North Carolina teen suspected of providing material support to ISIS, Hamas, and a branch of al Qaeda was instead busted for child porn. In October, federal agents searched 18-year-old Ameer Abu-Hammad’s home and electronic devices seeking evidence that he was providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization. When agents confronted Abu-Hammad at college, he asked them if they would also search his phone for “other stuff,” according to a criminal complaint. “The agents asked him to clarify and soon afterwards, he admitted that he had additionally used the phone to view pornogrpahy online that included minors,” the complaint continues, adding that Abu-Hammad allegedly said he prefered his laptop for adult porn and his phone for kid porn. “The youngest child he recalled having seen within pornographic images was a child of approximately 9 or 10 years of age,” the complaint said. “Hammad admitted that he had been viewing child pornography for roughly two months.” Graphic descriptions of the pornography found on Abu-Hammad’s devices note that it featured children as young as six to nine months. Agents said they found approximately 39 images on his devices, featuring mostly young girls. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/05/feds-go-looking-for-isis-find-child-porn-instead.html
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January 05, 2016, 07:40:46 PM |
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Surely the whole child bride thing is just some kind of propoganda. I couldnt beleive that happeneing in this day and age , although i may have read before that they do marry at a young age albeit older than what your photo shows, but they dont actually move in together untill they are adults. Saying that im sure mohammad was shagging children from what i remember.
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January 05, 2016, 07:56:40 PM |
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Surely the whole child bride thing is just some kind of propoganda. I couldnt beleive that happeneing in this day and age , although i may have read before that they do marry at a young age albeit older than what your photo shows, but they dont actually move in together untill they are adults. Saying that im sure mohammad was shagging children from what i remember.
Google it. Tell us if it is fake or not. Easy.
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January 05, 2016, 08:01:37 PM |
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Surely the whole child bride thing is just some kind of propoganda. I couldnt beleive that happeneing in this day and age , although i may have read before that they do marry at a young age albeit older than what your photo shows, but they dont actually move in together untill they are adults. Saying that im sure mohammad was shagging children from what i remember.
Google it. Tell us if it is fake or not. Easy. i had a quick google and obviously isis is a different ball game "of sorts" but from what i can gather if theres grass on the pitch then its game on. maybe someone who actually is a follower of said faith can correct me on this?
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January 05, 2016, 10:38:41 PM |
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Surely the whole child bride thing is just some kind of propoganda. I couldnt beleive that happeneing in this day and age , although i may have read before that they do marry at a young age albeit older than what your photo shows, but they dont actually move in together untill they are adults. Saying that im sure mohammad was shagging children from what i remember.
Right. Like, there's not exactly cable tv. No ATVs to go play with. Music's not even allowed. And there you are in a tent with some luscious young...
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Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Looks like by her own report, she was 9 (or even 8 taken the Lunar Calendar is shorter)... not much of an adult, eh? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) (he was 54)
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January 05, 2016, 11:20:44 PM |
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Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Looks like by her own report, she was 9 (or even 8 taken the Lunar Calendar is shorter)... not much of an adult, eh? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) (he was 54) I believe there is a name for people like that...
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January 06, 2016, 11:27:02 AM |
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Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Looks like by her own report, she was 9 (or even 8 taken the Lunar Calendar is shorter)... not much of an adult, eh? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) (he was 54) I believe there is a name for people like that... Yes: Muslims.
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If Israel is destroyed, I will devote the rest of my life to the extermination of the human species. Any species that goes down this road again less than 100 years after the holocaust needs to be fucking wiped out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Affair_of_the_Gang_of_BarbariansIlan Halimi: tortured and murdered in France by barbarian Jew haters who'd be very comfortable here at bitcointalk.
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January 06, 2016, 01:29:29 PM |
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.... I am not a scholar of old books... Really? Then tell me what is Anthropology? By the way, you think that you can really use the word Logic in order to say that this facts are non-sense?
“We are already here, among you. Some of us have always been here, with you, yet apart from, watching, and occasionally guiding you whenever the opportunity arose.”
According to Brinsley Le Poer Trench, editor of Flying Saucer Review, this otherworldly message appeared for the first time in a 1947 issue of Fanatic Stories written by an author under the pseudonym “Alexander Blade”. Curiously, it was made available only a few months after one of the most talked-about UFO incidents: Roswell.
Oh, changing the subject from"Why hate Islam" to your own crackpot religious ideas and then to UFOs? Okay. You see, you don't follow me... All I am trying to tell you is that everything begins with the Bible! People today are brain-washed and think that religion and UFO is a different story and also think that throughout the religion they can find their fate and that UFO doesn't exist... The same story is with this topic: Why do people hate islam? Let me give you some answers about your questions: 1. The Bible is written around 13.000 years b.c.e, and the evidence and facts you can find in the ancient texts of the first civilization - Sumerian! 2. The story in the Bible is describing a period who is dating back for 400 to 450 millions of year ago! 3. The book of the Prophet Mohamed is telling the same story who is in the Bible and even talk about the same persons (Enoch, Noah, Moses, Abraham and Christ)! 4. The UFO phenomenon is actually the same Deity who were described in the Bible. 5. The Humans are by a definition Aliens. P.S. All I am trying to say is that we are one and if we try to connect with our Creators we will find the true faith, not the religion!
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January 06, 2016, 02:29:43 PM |
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for me...actually islam has no mistake....the mistake is all about the people...not the islam... all religion teach a good thing...so why hate islam?the mistake in the person....
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for me...actually islam has no mistake....the mistake is all about the people...not the islam... all religion teach a good thing...so why hate islam?the mistake in the person....
Islam doesn't allow for mistakes in people. If a Muslim makes the mistake of changing religions, Islam says execute him. Islam isn't made for people. People make mistakes. Get rid of Islam so that people can live. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 06, 2016, 05:00:34 PM |
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.... I am not a scholar of old books... Really? Then tell me what is Anthropology? By the way, you think that you can really use the word Logic in order to say that this facts are non-sense?
“We are already here, among you. Some of us have always been here, with you, yet apart from, watching, and occasionally guiding you whenever the opportunity arose.”
According to Brinsley Le Poer Trench, editor of Flying Saucer Review, this otherworldly message appeared for the first time in a 1947 issue of Fanatic Stories written by an author under the pseudonym “Alexander Blade”. Curiously, it was made available only a few months after one of the most talked-about UFO incidents: Roswell.
Oh, changing the subject from"Why hate Islam" to your own crackpot religious ideas and then to UFOs? Okay. You see, you don't follow me... All I am trying to tell you is that everything begins with the Bible! People today are brain-washed and think that religion and UFO is a different story and also think that throughout the religion they can find their fate and that UFO doesn't exist... The same story is with this topic: Why do people hate islam? Let me give you some answers about your questions: 1. The Bible is written around 13.000 years b.c.e, and the evidence and facts you can find in the ancient texts of the first civilization - Sumerian! 2. The story in the Bible is describing a period who is dating back for 400 to 450 millions of year ago! 3. The book of the Prophet Mohamed is telling the same story who is in the Bible and even talk about the same persons (Enoch, Noah, Moses, Abraham and Christ)! 4. The UFO phenomenon is actually the same Deity who were described in the Bible. 5. The Humans are by a definition Aliens. P.S. All I am trying to say is that we are one and if we try to connect with our Creators we will find the true faith, not the religion! Oh, I completely understand you and have no interest whatever in "following you." You have some real fantasy bullshit there, dude. All made up stuff. Made up in your own head.
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