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[Experimenter]

From these screenshots I see Fan3 is reporting 30K RPM - which is not possible. Either it is not connected properly, or maybe faulty. At the same time, Fan6 seems too slow with just 2400 RPM (should be around 5000 if board temperatures are high, and your boards are overheating). Keep in mind a fan may still spin because of the airflow created by the other fan, but it doesn't mean it works...

Also, the temperature on the working board is waaaay too high. This may be caused by the same fan problem...

Unfortunately, the lack of proper cooling may have damaged the hash boards (that may be the reason why at least one board doesn't seem to do hashing at all).

I'd say you need to check the fans ASAP, both of them. Don't use the machine until you fix the cooling.

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This is over the 12 months which obviously the difficulty was much less 12 months ago with a lot higher BTC rewards  back then (and lower dollars since it was under $3k).  Using the spot price of BTC when the reward was earned, I made $1189 in December and am already at $338 this month.  As I mentioned, that is the past which has no bearing on the future.  I have not had anyone do a detailed review of my numbers and math.  If you are interested in confirming both, I am happy to share the details.  If you look at the past week CDT of 0.00015486 and quarterly of 0.00012451, the difficulty change has made an obvious net earnings change since it is less than half of the yearly per day average.

Minergain - I'm currently running about 100 S9s, with 10 more coming online Friday morning and 11 Avalons on order.  I recently switched from Slushpool to Kano due the fee difference (and discovered a much nicer user community as a bonus).  For me, its just business - I will make more at Kano than any place else I've found at an acceptable variance.  Kano's example was 7 BTC difference, but does it really matter if its 7 BTC, $5000, or $1000 over a year?  Its still more.

[Pecker]

This is over the 12 months which obviously the difficulty was much less 12 months ago with a lot higher BTC rewards  back then (and lower dollars since it was under $3k).  Using the spot price of BTC when the reward was earned, I made $1189 in December and am already at $338 this month.  As I mentioned, that is the past which has no bearing on the future.  I have not had anyone do a detailed review of my numbers and math.  If you are interested in confirming both, I am happy to share the details.  If you look at the past week CDT of 0.00015486 and quarterly of 0.00012451, the difficulty change has made an obvious net earnings change since it is less than half of the yearly per day average.

Minergain - I'm currently running about 100 S9s, with 10 more coming online Friday morning and 11 Avalons on order.  I recently switched from Slushpool to Kano due the fee difference (and discovered a much nicer user community as a bonus).  For me, its just business - I will make more at Kano than any place else I've found at an acceptable variance.  Kano's example was 7 BTC difference, but does it really matter if its 7 BTC, $5000, or $1000 over a year?  Its still more.

Awesome Brother!  Glad to have you here with us on KanoPool!! 

Best Pool, Great People!

[rifleman74]

Payment is going out on our last block, #514487



MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

[minergain.com]

Minergain - I'm currently running about 100 S9s, with 10 more coming online Friday morning and 11 Avalons on order.  I recently switched from Slushpool to Kano due the fee difference (and discovered a much nicer user community as a bonus).  For me, its just business - I will make more at Kano than any place else I've found at an acceptable variance.  Kano's example was 7 BTC difference, but does it really matter if its 7 BTC, $5000, or $1000 over a year?  Its still more.

I started at slush too and switched here to get a bigger piece of the pie with my single S9.  When I left slush in August it was around 250 Ph and Kano was around 40.  Amazing how that has changed in scale.  Yes, more money is always nice to have - and if we get really lucky, we all get to actually take part in a nice bonus.  Plus I have not found a better community of crypto people anywhere (and super willing to help everyone learn).  Welcome to Kano and Mine ON!

[sruyle]

Minergain - I'm currently running about 100 S9s, with 10 more coming online Friday morning and 11 Avalons on order.  I recently switched from Slushpool to Kano due the fee difference (and discovered a much nicer user community as a bonus).  For me, its just business - I will make more at Kano than any place else I've found at an acceptable variance.  Kano's example was 7 BTC difference, but does it really matter if its 7 BTC, $5000, or $1000 over a year?  Its still more.

I started at slush too and switched here to get a bigger piece of the pie with my single S9.  When I left slush in August it was around 250 Ph and Kano was around 40.  Amazing how that has changed in scale.  Yes, more money is always nice to have - and if we get really lucky, we all get to actually take part in a nice bonus.  Plus I have not found a better community of crypto people anywhere (and super willing to help everyone learn).  Welcome to Kano and Mine ON!

Same here. I have been a small fish here and now down to a single s7 and waiting to see the 841 before I buy anything. I used this pool as failover and did so for a long time. I built alot of dust, but it was nice dust. So I eventually read this forum a few hundred pages of it anyway, and moved over. Just in time for the 600% block. It was hard. lol. I am glad I stayed. Payouts have been better than elsewhere, and block times vs share per block have proven so much better that there is no going back. Even as a small fish, and the first 600% block, I make alot more money here.  The 900% block would have been a killer, but I wish I had been here since then.  Now looking at the 841 on blokforge and wondering if they will become a stock item after Apr 15. I really dont want to buy anymore bitmain.

[sruyle]

As a miner in a pool that shares transaction fees, is anyone else missing the days (not that long ago) of the 14+ BTC block rewards? Although as a user of BTC the low fees are great and probably better for the currency in the long run.

Those were the good old days where it really didn't matter where you mined (as long as the pool paid out the transaction fees).  Those 18-24 BTC blocks were great!

imagine the first couple years where it was 50BTC mining with CPU / GPU cards.  I'll bet those miners wish they would have made a few changes to their investment strategy!  And many likely did amazingly well too.

Some of us don't have to imagine those days. Yes, I would make a change to my investment strategy over then...I would not have kept my earnings from those 50BTC blocks in Mt. Gox's wallet. 

Mine on.

I was learning linux on slackware back then. Built and installed bitcoin. Found a block on my cpu after a few days. Thought well, that was cute, and promptly erased it (and the wallet) and installed something else. It wasnt until it hit 9K that i realized what I had done and wished that I still had it.
   

[shadowelite]

As a miner in a pool that shares transaction fees, is anyone else missing the days (not that long ago) of the 14+ BTC block rewards? Although as a user of BTC the low fees are great and probably better for the currency in the long run.

Thoseaybe
I  were the good old days where it really didn't matter where you mined (as long as the pool paid out the transaction fees).  Those 18-24 BTC blocks were great!

imagine the first couple years where it was 50BTC mining with CPU / GPU cards.  I'll bet those miners wish they would have made a few changes to their investment strategy!  And many likely did amazingly well too.

Some of us don't have to imagine those days. Yes, I would make a change to my investment strategy over then...I would not have kept my earnings from those 50BTC blocks in Mt. Gox's wallet. 

Mine on.

I was learning linux on slackware back then. Built and installed bitcoin. Found a block on my cpu after a few days. Thought well, that was cute, and promptly erased it (and the wallet) and installed something else. It wasnt until it hit 9K that i realized what I had done and wished that I still had it.
   

can you not use software to get the files back? Unless u zeroed the hdd it might be possible
I have used software to get important files off failed hdds

[kano]

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I was learning linux on slackware back then. Built and installed bitcoin. Found a block on my cpu after a few days. Thought well, that was cute, and promptly erased it (and the wallet) and installed something else. It wasnt until it hit 9K that i realized what I had done and wished that I still had it.
   

can you not use software to get the files back? Unless u zeroed the hdd it might be possible
I have used software to get important files off failed hdds

A few things
- That's a long time ago - just still having the HDD is the real question.
- If it's been in use for a while, or all this time, it's unlikely to not have been written over by windows.

- However, you just need to find the private key, not the whole wallet contents.

[JDLSantos]

Hi, I am new here and have Newbie questions?

I set my T9 to mine in kano pool, but many questions poping up my head

1. to set my wallet address, the kano pool web site ask me for password, what password it should be? i don't remember to set password for my wallet address.

2. what is the minimum amount of BTC to get payment?

3. how i can see the amount of BTC produced/mined, in other words where i can see my miner progress?

4. It is normal that my worker higher invalid % than block %? checking on detail shows many stales?

thanks, i would appreciate any reply with answers  
 

Bro! welcome to KANOPOOL!  Would like to set your expectation that the pool does not payout everyday and only pays when a block is found.
The payment is based on shares and it is called REWARDS in kanopool terms.

We depend on luck which always comes around back to 100% or the "expected". (my opinion, dear kanopool PROs, please dont scold me for saying this, just simplifying things to fellow newbie  )

So in general, we only have to hope for a block found every month and hope for that expected 100% to be hit.

In general, this pool is fun as to the reason the community is very active and everyday you wake up, there is something new being talked about.
Also, the fees are very minimal.  If the pool is very lucky in that certain month, it will certainly hit (the BTC earnings) way way way higher than other pools. (tried antpool and slushpool).   If unlucky, we have to endure and shoulder some electricity cost and hope the next month will get lucky to cover up the current month and the next month.  Its just this cycle here in kanopool.  But what is best is yung community!  

in your questions above, im only capable to answer you 2 things:
2. what is the minimum amount of BTC to get payment?
- as Kano-san mentioned, its about the dust payment, but you don't have to worry about this since your using T9 and that is 12TH.
- at 58 PH a T9 with 12TH with BTC reward @ 12.5 will give you around 0.002586 BTC (rough estimate assuming the pool hash of 58 remains thesame and this is also asusming you are fully ramped up)

3. how i can see the amount of BTC produced/mined, in other words where i can see my miner progress?
- just look at your SHIFT graph page, youll see a small number that says "xx.yy av" (that is your ramped up average = this value should be around 12TH when your fully ramped up)
- if your referring to the BTC blocks found, you can go to the POOL > BLOCKS page, youll see the BTC block reward value there, also the expected and the blocks already found for the current month.

thanks all for your replies, definitely a great community !
what i understood, if my T9 is not running 24x7, i would have very few chance to be successful using the PPLNS : (
have 3 days running but unfortunately interment, so, it looks like that is no good!
thanks

[rifleman74]

thanks all for your replies, definitely a great community !
what i understood, if my T9 is not running 24x7, i would have very few chance to be successful using the PPLNS : (
have 3 days running but unfortunately interment, so, it looks like that is no good!
thanks

You need them to run 24/7 to get the "best bang" for your buck.  Otherwise, it's costing you more money by just sitting there not getting anything in a return. 

[kano]

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thanks all for your replies, definitely a great community !
what i understood, if my T9 is not running 24x7, i would have very few chance to be successful using the PPLNS : (
have 3 days running but unfortunately interment, so, it looks like that is no good!
thanks

Not exactly, no.
What PPLNS does is spread your payouts out, not reduce them.
So although you may not reach the maximum reward per block for a T9, your expected reward is the % of time you mine.
So if you say mine 50% of the time, your rewards will expect to average out to 50% of a T9.

Those lines on the Help->Payouts page are very important:

The 5Nd means it takes that long to reward your shares.
The ramp isn't missing rewards, it's delaying them to reduce variance.

If you are always ramping up and down, you aren't expected to earn less than the time you are mining.
The only factor there is pool luck, which of course over the longer term is expected to approach 100% from above or below.

[BSGMiner]

thanks all for your replies, definitely a great community !
what i understood, if my T9 is not running 24x7, i would have very few chance to be successful using the PPLNS : (
have 3 days running but unfortunately interment, so, it looks like that is no good!
thanks

You need them to run 24/7 to get the "best bang" for your buck.  Otherwise, it's costing you more money by just sitting there not getting anything in a return.  

My understanding is that PPLNS is the best especially if you're running miners intermittently since other pools' ramps are so short that soon after you stop mining there, you basically get nothing.

Here, on the other hand, it takes just as long to ramp down as it does to ramp up--assuming pool hashrate and the Network Difficulty stays the same.

Stick around. It's worth it!

[Nick_01]

in the meantime, it's time for us to crack the block 

[rifleman74]

thanks all for your replies, definitely a great community !
what i understood, if my T9 is not running 24x7, i would have very few chance to be successful using the PPLNS : (
have 3 days running but unfortunately interment, so, it looks like that is no good!
thanks

You need them to run 24/7 to get the "best bang" for your buck.  Otherwise, it's costing you more money by just sitting there not getting anything in a return.  

My understanding is that PPLNS is the best especially if you're running miners intermittently since other pools' ramps are so short that soon after you stop mining there, you basically get nothing.

Here, on the other hand, it takes just as long to ramp down as it does to ramp up--assuming pool hashrate and the Network Difficulty stays the same.

Stick around. It's worth it!

Correct, but they're running it less than 50% of the time, it's really not in his best interest.   Gotta set aside time to get these puppies ramped up, then the hit or miss running time will be more "justly" rewarded. 

[Yrth]

thanks all for your replies, definitely a great community !
what i understood, if my T9 is not running 24x7, i would have very few chance to be successful using the PPLNS : (
have 3 days running but unfortunately interment, so, it looks like that is no good!
thanks

You need them to run 24/7 to get the "best bang" for your buck.  Otherwise, it's costing you more money by just sitting there not getting anything in a return.  

My understanding is that PPLNS is the best especially if you're running miners intermittently since other pools' ramps are so short that soon after you stop mining there, you basically get nothing.

Here, on the other hand, it takes just as long to ramp down as it does to ramp up--assuming pool hashrate and the Network Difficulty stays the same.

Stick around. It's worth it!

Correct, but they're running it less than 50% of the time, it's really not in his best interest.   Gotta set aside time to get these puppies ramped up, then the hit or miss running time will be more "justly" rewarded. 

Ramp or not, it would still pay better than PPS.

The 5nd is a function of shares not time. If he is only running a T9 50% of the time. At PPS he will be rewarded the T9's hashrate for 12 hours out of the day. Here after he has submitted shares during the entire length of the 5nd. He is rewarded at that same rate. A T9's out output for 12 hours per day during all of the 5nd.

At a PPS pool he still makes less than here because PPS pay less.

[kano]

Eh? Did no one read my reply?

[Nick_01]

Eh? Did no one read my reply?

Work Diff if I set a high value, I understand that the shares will be smaller, but the chance to break the block will be higher? Or I something do not understand?

[Yrth]

Eh? Did no one read my reply?

I did. I was just trying to say it a different way since it seemed to have not hit home for some.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Eh? Did no one read my reply?

Of course they did.
And then as is all too common these days they then promptly ignored it when it did not jive with what they want to hear