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[kano]

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Nicehash is mostly legitimate (not strictly a hashing contract but a rental of hashpower), and once you run the numbers it works out that you will pay very close to your expected return.

Their advertising directly implies that you will pay well above your expected return ...
Of course that's also not true, but they say it to attract ignorant miners to put their miners on there.

One catch with nicehash is that you have no idea about the miners being used at all ... and ...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002086.0

After our shocking run of bad luck in October, where half the pool hash rate was from nicehash during that bad luck,
whenever I see a nicehash IP address/subnet I ban it forever on all servers

why is nicehash bad luck for us ?

Um ... as I said above

After our shocking run of bad luck in October, where half the pool hash rate was from nicehash during that bad luck,
whenever I see a nicehash IP address/subnet I ban it forever on all servers

I also did a software upgrade to KDB to do full share hashing/checking and difficulty comparison with the value from the ckpool software and reran it on a test server, on over 3 months of data from before the bad luck to after it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg24423914#msg24423914
This found no problems with the shares submitted ...

So either the end of October was simply just bad luck ... or there's something wrong with nicehash.

Either way, nicehash is a bad idea to rent from since you have an expected loss.

If you're the gambling addicted type ... there's a few pools that suit that due to bizarre payout schemes that are luck based, or solo, which is even more risky with anything under about 20-30PH now

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[fjtropepe]

Just received my 6 S9s from Bitmain. Now what to do with the 4 I don't have room for?   

Light 'em on fire, that will help difficulty for us. 

Out o' power.

[ccgllc]

Just received my 6 S9s from Bitmain. Now what to do with the 4 I don't have room for?   

List them on e-bay or one of the selling threads here.  Might as well recover what you can from them.

[Shazam!!!]

Just received my 6 S9s from Bitmain. Now what to do with the 4 I don't have room for?   

Colocation maybe??? I know alot are full, but you just might find an open spot.

[Experimenter]

Offer them for sale with a condition that the new owner will mine on Kano pool!

[perfectplus174]

Interested in hearing what may be considered fair pricing for an S7 with PSU

[gaud]

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Nicehash is mostly legitimate (not strictly a hashing contract but a rental of hashpower), and once you run the numbers it works out that you will pay very close to your expected return.

Their advertising directly implies that you will pay well above your expected return ...
Of course that's also not true, but they say it to attract ignorant miners to put their miners on there.

One catch with nicehash is that you have no idea about the miners being used at all ... and ...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002086.0

After our shocking run of bad luck in October, where half the pool hash rate was from nicehash during that bad luck,
whenever I see a nicehash IP address/subnet I ban it forever on all servers

why is nicehash bad luck for us ?

Because of the potential for block withholding...read the Kano post in the link above to get more info.

i read the article i guess i jst dont understand what good it dose them to hold a block can they then submit it under a different solo machine or something ?

[kano]

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i read the article i guess i jst dont understand what good it dose them to hold a block can they then submit it under a different solo machine or something ?

You can't change a block so that someone else gets it.
Not possible.

However, as I said on that thread, there's a number of reasons why to to it - none of which are a loss to the owner of the mining hardware.
... and other reasons as listed there.

[Jeremiah1610]

Is it just Canaan's 2,000 Th/s that goes on and off that keeps throwing the diff changes?
9xgjs valentina   Mar‑19 23:03:18   50m 56s   36.594M   2.584M   51.44THs   3.620k   10,108.90   0   0   0.00%
9xgct ur   Mar‑19 22:13:52   49m 26s   39.820M   12.222k   57.66THs   3.146k   12,657.35   0   0   0.00%
9xg72 tenshi   Mar‑19 21:22:15   51m 37s   40.288M   49.900k   55.88THs   3.183k   12,657.23   0   0   0.00%
9xfyz sena   Mar‑19 20:33:58   48m 17s   37.380M   24.493k   55.41THs   2.951k   12,666.95   0   0   0.00%
9xftc rem   Mar‑19 19:41:39   52m 19s   40.162M   75.103k   54.95THs   3.173k   12,657.29   0   0   0.00%
9xfn7 quinn   Mar‑19 18:49:26   52m 12s   39.378M   25.301k   53.99THs   3.111k   12,657.77   0   0   0.00%
9xff3 patema   Mar‑19 17:57:52   51m 35s   38.717M   38.388k   53.73THs   3.059k   12,656.73   0   0   0.00%
9xf8z origami   Mar‑19 17:06:00   51m 52s   40.504M   50.667k   55.90THs   3.200k   12,657.47   0   0   0.00%
9xf2x nodoka   Mar‑19 16:15:34   50m 25s   39.240M   51.524k   55.71THs   3.097k   12,670.28   0   0   0.00%
9xev2 mutsumi   Mar‑19 15:25:00   50m 34s   40.239M   25.350k   56.96THs   3.179k   12,657.85   0   0   0.00%
9xep4 lucy   Mar‑19 14:34:42   50m 18s   36.219M   53.734k   51.55THs   3.467k   10,446.69   0   0   0.00%
9xeh8 kosaki   Mar‑19 13:44:06   50m 36s   37.835M   69.884k   53.52THs   3.362k   11,253.67   0   0   0.00%
9xeba juvia   Mar‑19 12:53:41   50m 25s   37.257M   68.738k   52.89THs   3.191k   11,675.74   0   0   0.00%
9xe5e ichiko   Mar‑19 12:02:12   51m 28s   40.210M   24.041k   55.92THs   3.216k   12,503.24   0   0   0.00%

[kano]

Is it just Canaan's 2,000 Th/s that goes on and off that keeps throwing the diff changes?
9xgjs valentina   Mar‑19 23:03:18   50m 56s   36.594M   2.584M   51.44THs   3.620k   10,108.90   0   0   0.00%
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9xe5e ichiko   Mar‑19 12:02:12   51m 28s   40.210M   24.041k   55.92THs   3.216k   12,503.24   0   0   0.00%

No one else affects your own settings.

Your settings may change up and down a bit based on your share luck, or if you disconnect/reconnect.

[Jeremiah1610]

No disconnects, reconnects, power or internet failure here. What is "share luck". I got a bunch of duplicate and hi shares that shift too.

[BSGMiner]

I wonder what the reason is that it seems like new blocks--for us at least--come in bunches. It seems like if we don't get another one in a short period of Nd afterward that it ends up taking a while.

Funny how even trying to explain this makes it sound like I'm saying, "Why is it that if they're not quick, they're slow?"... Hilarious.

[wavelengthsf]

I wonder what the reason is that it seems like new blocks--for us at least--come in bunches. It seems like if we don't get another one in a short period of Nd afterward that it ends up taking a while.

Funny how even trying to explain this makes it sound like I'm saying, "Why is it that if they're not quick, they're slow?"... Hilarious.

Randomness is random - humans like to find patterns, though.

[BSGMiner]

Randomness is random
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Or is it???

[K.P. PasstheHash]

Hello, all.

I just held the first drawing in this Small Miner Bonus Hash giveaway.

There were 605 eligible miners at 03:00:03 UTC. The winning Kano Pool miner is:

kellenavaI.

Congratulations. You have 96 hours of S3 hashing for you. I just checked - it's averaging 487 GHs on this end ATM.


Regards,

K.P. PasstheHash

MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!!!!

[rifleman74]

Crack this block before I wake up tomorrow!


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

[kano]

No disconnects, reconnects, power or internet failure here. What is "share luck". I got a bunch of duplicate and hi shares that shift too.

Not sure
There's no "share luck" on the web site

[Experimenter]

Your settings may change up and down a bit based on your share luck, or if you disconnect/reconnect.

What is "share luck"

Not sure
There's no "share luck" on the web site

Hmmm...

[kano]

Your settings may change up and down a bit based on your share luck, or if you disconnect/reconnect.

What is "share luck"

Not sure
There's no "share luck" on the web site

Hmmm...

Well it's not on the web site anywhere

As for shares - OK they're the same as blocks - random luck finding them with an expected distribution defined by the CDF.

The reason it's not as obvious with shares, as with blocks, is coz there's way more of them.
In a day you expect to find about 25920 shares, per miner, so since the sample is quite large, you tend to not notice the variance.

If you get lucky and find more shares - faster than expected - then the pool may put your work difficulty up, assuming your hash rate is higher.
This will mean you'll average less shares of greater value - which is expected to end up the same.

If you get unlucky and find less shares - slower than expected - then the pool may put your work difficulty down, assuming your hash rate is lower.
This will mean you'll average more shares of lesser value - which is expected to end up the same.

[JDLSantos]

Hi, I am new here and have Newbie questions?

I set my T9 to mine in kano pool, but many questions poping up my head

1. to set my wallet address, the kano pool web site ask me for password, what password it should be? i don't remember to set password for my wallet address.

2. what is the minimum amount of BTC to get payment?

3. how i can see the amount of BTC produced/mined, in other words where i can see my miner progress?

4. It is normal that my worker higher invalid % than block %? checking on detail shows many stales?

thanks, i would appreciate any reply with answers