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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2436 blocks  (Read 5350549 times)
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September 21, 2015, 11:04:21 PM
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Is there a way to predict how long a block will take or is it just waiting and see when it's done?

the formula is   time = difficulty * 2**32 / hashrate  (source Bitcoin Wiki )

the first line on kanos.is website is the pools hashrate and the current difficulty is 59,335,351,234 

you can get a better understanding by looking at the bitcoin wiki but this really is just an estimate of time based on whatever the hashrate is vs the difficulty

it really boils down to luck.. however we can calculate pretty close..  if you look at the block page... Some take a longer amount of time, and some get discovered quicker, however after a year this pool is pretty darn close to the calculated time..

with all that said... the same rule applies no matter what PPLNS Pool you choose.  Rule: stay with the pool  - ( pool hopping does not pay )


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September 22, 2015, 12:19:30 AM
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Is there a way to predict how long a block will take or is it just waiting and see when it's done?
Well there's a table of CDF values I posted last week.
That tells you what to expect in history (that we've done better than expected in history)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg12461942#msg12461942

However, the expected average time to the next block depends on the pool hash rate.
2PHs would expect, on average, to find a block roughly about every 1.5 days

So using the CDF table you can get a rough idea of the % there vs the number of days to get to that % - 2PH means multiply the % roughly by 1.5

So if we stayed around 2PH and the current block total took 200% Diff, then that would take about 3days.
100% Diff, about 1.5 days
300% Diff, about 4.5 days
50% Diff, about 0.75 days
etc

I have a web site I wrote years ago to work out the 100% expected averages:
http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php

Of course the expected block finding statistics are the same for all pools, the differences are of course
a) the hash rate, which does affects how often payouts occur on all pools that don't use true PPS, but does not affect how much BTC you average over time
b) and how often they lose blocks (that you don't know about)

Blocks are lost a few ways:
1) The obvious network orphans - fewer means a better connected pool
2) The hidden pool orphans when the bitcoind test says it got a network block, but the pool got it's block just after that, but before the pool software knew about the network block change (these show up on our pool - our 2nd orphan was like that - but most pools don't show these)
3) The lost stale blocks due to processing of work by the pool being too slow after a network block came in - due to slow pool processing
4) The lost stale blocks due to the miner getting the block to the pool after the pool knows about the next network block - due to a slow miner network, a slow pool network or slow pool processing

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September 22, 2015, 11:15:11 AM
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Restart please....

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September 22, 2015, 01:21:32 PM
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Restart please....

And a side of chicken...   Cheesy

Guess I'll have to fix up some buffalo chicken after work Cheesy

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September 22, 2015, 01:23:24 PM
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Working on more changes that will prolly not be ready for another day or so ... then I'll restart to add them in Smiley

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September 22, 2015, 03:52:57 PM
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Working on more changes that will prolly not be ready for another day or so ... then I'll restart to add them in Smiley

Too far. We need the restart goodness now..

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September 22, 2015, 11:20:21 PM
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So.... umm I hear that This Year More People Have Been Killed By Selfies Than Sharks..

oddly enough nobody has been killed taking a selfie with a shark though... so that's good !
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September 22, 2015, 11:58:45 PM
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September 23, 2015, 02:05:49 AM
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Is it harmful to restart the pool every day automatically?

Over the past few months, solved blocks pour in after pool restarts. I'm a believer!  Cheesy

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September 23, 2015, 02:41:06 AM
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I dont think the pool has restarted for a month. Its only the website and its database that gets restarted

Or do i owe someone an apology
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September 23, 2015, 02:43:07 AM
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I believe in reverse Phsycology, i hope i spelled that right

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September 23, 2015, 02:48:31 AM
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I dont think the pool has restarted for a month. Its only the website and its database that gets restarted

Or do i owe someone an apology

Pool's been up for 29 days, and it has been a good 29 days Smiley However it can get a bit cultish around here when we hit the 200's


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September 23, 2015, 02:53:44 AM
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Cultish, what would it be called at 400!!!!!!!

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September 23, 2015, 03:03:22 AM
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Cultish, what would it be called at 400!!!!!!!

Homicidal?? LOL. 

Kind of curious as to who "privateP2Ppool" guy is... not sure if I have it spelled right...  Noticed he has been hitting hard off an on and he never has any sustained hash just pop-ins of large numbers.  Undecided


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September 23, 2015, 03:26:21 AM
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not me I am Kilowatt

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September 23, 2015, 04:12:25 AM
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Block hit!
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September 23, 2015, 04:14:50 AM
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Thanks the dreamer
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September 23, 2015, 04:18:55 AM
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now for a confirm

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only 203 hours to go for 500N

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