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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2436 blocks  (Read 5350544 times)
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October 18, 2015, 12:47:15 PM
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many pools accept P2SH addresses as users , but don't give shares for work, because can verify and recognize only P2PKH and give shares .
Kano isn't such pool. CKpool code accept P2SH. Am I right?
Sorry, I've no idea what you mean by "but don't give shares for work"

The payout address you use on your account or via address mining, can be 1* or 3*

I simply send the payout amount to that address as per bitcoin-cli accepting a list of addresses including any of 1* or 3*

As for transactions in the block, transactions allowed are as per the standard 0.11.1 core.

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October 18, 2015, 12:48:35 PM
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I think Block % is just a % from all shares since last found block. This is not conected with  reward which is calculated by mined shares for last 5Nd where N is current mining difficulty for bitcoin
Yes since it's not a moving target it's easy to keep track of - simply reset it each time we find a block.
It's also of interest to see how much of the current block, shown at the top of the page, you have mined.

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October 18, 2015, 12:54:47 PM
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many pools accept P2SH addresses as users , but don't give shares for work, because can verify and recognize only P2PKH and give shares .
Kano isn't such pool. CKpool code accept P2SH. Am I right?
Sorry, I've no idea what you mean by "but don't give shares for work"


I mean that some pools use p2pool similar code and when username is P2SH address starting with 3 , work made by that miner don't go in db for payments , and all work shares go to pools owners
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October 18, 2015, 01:04:10 PM
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many pools accept P2SH addresses as users , but don't give shares for work, because can verify and recognize only P2PKH and give shares .
Kano isn't such pool. CKpool code accept P2SH. Am I right?
Sorry, I've no idea what you mean by "but don't give shares for work"


I mean that some pools use p2pool similar code and when username is P2SH address starting with 3 , work made by that miner don't go in db for payments , and all work shares go to pools owners
Well it's been well tested here Smiley
In the payout for our first block (325306), someone had a 3* payout address.
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/2be1537b675e8a36b4d21a8bda1f2e17a3ed44d6dfe32172c4ca99293efd0785

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October 18, 2015, 03:23:25 PM
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Payout 379356 sent
e4dae6ffe84c04ab51a48d8470125e58110427790507e0e6a9a433e40e7b2ec6
and confirmed

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October 18, 2015, 04:02:25 PM
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I think Block % is just a % from all shares since last found block. This is not conected with  reward which is calculated by mined shares for last 5Nd where N is current mining difficulty for bitcoin

Thanks for the explanation. And @kano thanks for answering as well. At least I sort of have a better understanding how payouts work.

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October 19, 2015, 11:52:20 AM
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BLOCK!!!! What a perfect way to start the week. Congratz bitpro.

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October 19, 2015, 11:56:50 AM
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BLOCK!!!! What a perfect way to start the week. Congratz bitpro.

This one is "about exactly" on diff!  100.071%, we can say luck is on time this time. Smiley

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October 19, 2015, 12:04:48 PM
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Happy to be in the Kano team! Grin

Stats are resetting after we find a block?
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October 19, 2015, 12:13:35 PM
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Happy to be in the Kano team! Grin

Stats are resetting after we find a block?

Yes, they reset after a block.
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October 19, 2015, 12:26:47 PM
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As mentioned before the payout is generated either 13min or the next confirm after the block (whichever is longer) which in this case it was 30min to the next block.
Same for the block stats correction.

But the block stats at the top and in the workers pages reset immediately.

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October 19, 2015, 05:40:22 PM
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Has anybody had issues with Kano's s3 update? The day i moved my 2x s3's here i updated them with Kano's update. I bought anther s3 whilst mining here and it came with an earlier version of the update perhaps. I know it looked different to what i had with my other 2. I left it with that update. Saturday i noticed my hash rate was down a lot. I checked the miners and the most recent one wasn't hashing. There were no values in the status area. I rebooted it and stayed the same. unplugged it for a bit and powered on it was still the same. I did a factory reset through the web GUI and it started hashing again. So I put the latest update on the same as my other 2 and it hashed for a while so i thought problem was solved. I discovered yesterday it had died again sometime after the update. I have factory reset it again and is hashing happily again for the last 2 hours. Any good advice out there?

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October 19, 2015, 06:36:08 PM
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Has anybody had issues with Kano's s3 update? The day i moved my 2x s3's here i updated them with Kano's update. I bought anther s3 whilst mining here and it came with an earlier version of the update perhaps. I know it looked different to what i had with my other 2. I left it with that update. Saturday i noticed my hash rate was down a lot. I checked the miners and the most recent one wasn't hashing. There were no values in the status area. I rebooted it and stayed the same. unplugged it for a bit and powered on it was still the same. I did a factory reset through the web GUI and it started hashing again. So I put the latest update on the same as my other 2 and it hashed for a while so i thought problem was solved. I discovered yesterday it had died again sometime after the update. I have factory reset it again and is hashing happily again for the last 2 hours. Any good advice out there?

Noticed over the weekend that my 2 S3s (both /K software versions) started acting strange also but everything seems to be going well this morning. Just glanced at them now and both keep showing less than 10GH/s in the GH/S(5s) box, even though the pool stats show what I should be submitting.

It was, however, enough to plant the S7 seed in my head again...
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Any idea's on what the minimum hash rate might be in order to get a fair share of the pie and not end up in the dust bin?
I know that 1GH will only create dust. So I wonder about the guys running 10GH or less and if they're getting paid.

Also, is any plan in place to add up the dust until it's no longer dust and qualify for a payout, or should I go dust myself off?

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October 19, 2015, 10:09:36 PM
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no problem with my 32 S3's noticied
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October 19, 2015, 10:39:37 PM
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Has anybody had issues with Kano's s3 update? The day i moved my 2x s3's here i updated them with Kano's update. I bought anther s3 whilst mining here and it came with an earlier version of the update perhaps. I know it looked different to what i had with my other 2. I left it with that update. Saturday i noticed my hash rate was down a lot. I checked the miners and the most recent one wasn't hashing. There were no values in the status area. I rebooted it and stayed the same. unplugged it for a bit and powered on it was still the same. I did a factory reset through the web GUI and it started hashing again. So I put the latest update on the same as my other 2 and it hashed for a while so i thought problem was solved. I discovered yesterday it had died again sometime after the update. I have factory reset it again and is hashing happily again for the last 2 hours. Any good advice out there?

Noticed over the weekend that my 2 S3s (both /K software versions) started acting strange also but everything seems to be going well this morning. Just glanced at them now and both keep showing less than 10GH/s in the GH/S(5s) box, even though the pool stats show what I should be submitting.

It was, however, enough to plant the S7 seed in my head again...
One cause can be if the time jumps forward - the web/API elapsed will show that.
My update also checks if the time jumps forward more than 70 days and will kill and restart cgminer - that will also come into effect if it has been mining for 70 days.

If the time jumped forward a lot but less than 70 days it would show a low hash rate.
The pool of course will know the corrected hash rate based on the proper time.

The "Share Rate" on the Workers page can also help see that it's working ok - it shows the hash rate for the given short interval "«Elapsed"
It resets every network block, thus shows the shares submitted since then converted directly to a hash rate.
Note also, the "Share Rate" for my antminer cgminer versions will have high variance since I set the internal work difficulty as high as possible to match the pool work difficulty (but of course less than or equal to the pool difficulty)

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October 19, 2015, 11:03:23 PM
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Any idea's on what the minimum hash rate might be in order to get a fair share of the pie and not end up in the dust bin?
I know that 1GH will only create dust. So I wonder about the guys running 10GH or less and if they're getting paid.

Also, is any plan in place to add up the dust until it's no longer dust and qualify for a payout, or should I go dust myself off?

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Right now (based on pool size) I think you need more than 10 or 11 GH/s to see a payout that is more than the dust threshold (10,000 satoshi).

Yes, Kano has posted in this thread that at some point he will add code to sweep up the dust as part of the payout.  You can look back a few pages and find the most recent response.
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October 19, 2015, 11:14:21 PM
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Any idea's on what the minimum hash rate might be in order to get a fair share of the pie and not end up in the dust bin?
I know that 1GH will only create dust. So I wonder about the guys running 10GH or less and if they're getting paid.

Also, is any plan in place to add up the dust until it's no longer dust and qualify for a payout, or should I go dust myself off?

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Well a dust payout is < 10,000 satoshi (0.00010000 BTC or very roughly currently < 3 US cents)

Your Reward per payout will depend on the pool hash rate of course, since that also decides the expected average hashes per 5Nd payout, and you are rewarded your % of the 5Nd times the miner reward.

For the last payout my Reward numbers were:
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Block   Block UTC     Miner Reward  N Diff    N Range        Pool N Avg  Your %  Your N Diff  Your N Avg  Your BTC
379604  19/Oct 11:49  24.84179216   304.453G  198hr 32m 59s  1.83PHs     0.07%   219.053M     1.32THs     0.01787361
So Avg 1.32TH was 0.07% was 0.0178BTC
So for that payout, roughly (1320GHs * 0.00010000 / 0.01787361) ~7.4GHs was around the dust reward mark.

Yes, I've still not done the dust accumulation code.
But no, your dust isn't lost, it's still there on your Rewards page, just not paid yet of course.
The code yet to be done requires I differentiate correctly between paid rewards and unpaid rewards - and record that on the payments.

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October 20, 2015, 01:41:18 AM
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I got it. Tx.
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October 20, 2015, 03:27:15 AM
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Heh Eligius are liars and thieves Smiley
No idea why anyone would mine there.

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#15 (Unknown users) 183.02 Th/s 460225024 1.257%
LOL, that's people mining with an invalid address I think.

= donations.
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If you have a way to track these users down, you're welcome to share it.

On my pool we don't keep users connected with invalid connection details so we can steal their mining power = BTC.
Invalid address miners are not allowed to mine.

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And as others have mentioned, it's not like rejecting the connections is going to benefit anybody.
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Although you may think it wise to mine with a single account and no backup, most miners have realised for MANY years that is a foolish thing to do.

If one pool/account is rejected or fails when mining, cgminer (used by the vast majority of BTC miners on the planet) switches over to the secondary or later accounts it has been provided with.

If someone is dropping money on the street, it isn't the job of whoever finds it to hunt them down even if it is possible.
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Well ... a few years ago a guy walking through a centre about 30m ahead of me dropped a small amount of paper.

When I got to it I noticed it contained cash.
I picked it up and it included over $100 ...

Though you may consider that a bad thing to do, I chased after him and gave it to him.
He hadn't even realised he'd dropped it.

And wizpants final comment Smiley
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The accusations of stealing based on a well established policy are a bit absurd, and honestly I don't want to hear it.
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I'm not going to implement valid address/worker name checking in the pool software.  It's not worth the time and effort when there are plenty of other things I can dedicate my time to.
Well established policy of stealing Smiley

Well ... it is a fee free pool ... where no one makes the expected payout ... for years ... they gotta get paid somehow for all their costs running the pool right?

I remember when ck's signature read to the effect 'only ignoring luke jr.'
That's when I tried to figure out who's who or what around here and I came to the conclusion that jr. guy was some sort of a jesus freak who also happened to 'pick up' on ck's early open source? miner and bend it to his liking. This is my current understanding.

To the point, jesus freaks aren't supposed to steal and cheat. This too is my current understanding.

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