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February 27, 2017, 03:51:44 PM
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Good to know im not the only one who find a block here on kano with S9v1  Grin looks like all those "bad" miners still able to find blocks Wink
There's no doubt they find blocks, they've found 95 so far.
The issue is the total number S9v1 has found is well below what it should have - CDF[Erl] = 0.991261 with that last one.
(They're expected to have found almost 25 more)

Yes but most jumped ship during the red months. That's how leaving a pool during slow times can damn near ruin it. Had all those machines stayed they could have hit those blocks.  it's almost as bad as a block withholding attack. I know it's no guarantee and hell what's everyone gonna think when we hit the 1:10000 year block. 20000% or more.  Yes that's possible. Rare but will happen eventually as long as Bitcoin survives.

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if the s9  v1 is .992 cdf  and has made 95 blocks vs 120 blocks I sure as hell don't want it here.

when you talk .992 for a block  fine  when you talk .992 for a long time period it simply should not mine here.

The only argument is what is a fair time period or sample size.       Right now according to kano they are short 25 blocks.

and if you look at the lifetime of the pool we are not 100% we are higher  so they are not 25 blocks short more like 27 or maybe 26 or 28.  I am lazy and do not want to do the math.

Your argument  holds water if other miners left with the s9s.

But if the s9s version 1 truly suck  and they come back with ver 1 firmware they will lower the luck.

I keep mine at f2pool and I mine my avalon721's here

BTW  at Kano what is the luck for avalon 721?

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February 27, 2017, 09:22:18 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=763510.msg17983106#msg17983106

Cobramining. I think your failover is configure incorrectly. You need a btc address to mine on the solo pool

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February 27, 2017, 09:31:31 PM
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BTW  at Kano what is the luck for avalon 721?
Canaan Avalon's are fine:
721 14 Blocks found, expected 14.x
741  9 Blocks found, above expected

Same for
S9v2 38 Blocks found, above expected

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February 27, 2017, 09:37:45 PM
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Good to know im not the only one who find a block here on kano with S9v1  Grin looks like all those "bad" miners still able to find blocks Wink
There's no doubt they find blocks, they've found 95 so far.
The issue is the total number S9v1 has found is well below what it should have - CDF[Erl] = 0.991261 with that last one.
(They're expected to have found almost 25 more)
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Had all those machines stayed they could have hit those blocks.
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Yes, and they 'could' have hit more, less, or even none.
Doesn't matter what they 'could' have done, since that's supposed to be random.
Unfortunately, history suggests otherwise.

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February 27, 2017, 10:25:17 PM
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Coinbase just advised me that they can no longer do business in Hawaii, due to regulatory changes just promulgated by the state's governing body.

I have a backup at CEX.IO, but the CB feature of selling instantly to my PayPal acct was central. Last I checked CEX can't do that...only to your bank, and it takes days.

Wunnerful. The whole frakking world is going nuckingfutz, methinks.

Oh, well...that's one way to force me to save my coin rather than spend it, eh?

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February 27, 2017, 10:32:26 PM
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Coinbase just advised me that they can no longer do business in Hawaii, due to regulatory changes just promulgated by the state's governing body.

Wow.  That's interesting.  If it only goes from GB to PP how does the State of Hawai'i have control?  Is it tied to your phone carrier, ISP?  What if you open an account on the mainland? What if you leave the islands for NYC on vacation? ...

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February 27, 2017, 10:34:43 PM
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Coinbase just advised me that they can no longer do business in Hawaii, due to regulatory changes just promulgated by the state's governing body.
Given their explanation of the law, I assume others will soon follow suit. I can't imagine too many exchanges will want to have physical currency deposited in Hawaii to match every Hawaiian customer's coinage.  Undecided

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February 27, 2017, 10:37:29 PM
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BTW  at Kano what is the luck for avalon 721?
Canaan Avalon's are fine:
721 14 Blocks found, expected 14.x
741  9 Blocks found, above expected

Same for
S9v2 38 Blocks found, above expected

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February 27, 2017, 10:42:32 PM
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Given their explanation of the law, I assume others will soon follow suit. I can't imagine too many exchanges will want to have physical currency deposited in Hawaii to match every Hawaiian customer's coinage.  Undecided

They wrote it was their interpretation of a law.  This usually means people who not elected, but work in government, spent time and came to a conclusion. The blog post, when on to state, "... Coinbase is currently licensed to engage in money transmission in thirty-eight U.S. jurisdictions ..."

Once you are given something, it is generally very difficult to take back.
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February 27, 2017, 11:24:22 PM
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The issue is that HI is now requiring ANY exchange handling consumer funds to have liquid reserves...ie., cash...equal to the value of the BTC being held for the consumer.

This is, by any reasonable view, impossible to fulfill, and not prompted (as the spokesperson says) by a desire to protect the consumer. Hawaii is the ONLY state requiring a reserve.

I worked a number of years as the Chief of Field Examinations for a national commercial bank. Hear my words, bunkies...NO ONE in the banking industry believes that line, unless they're really, really stupid.

Anyway...time to start burning up the speed dial on my state reps (I have personal contacts with nearly all of them).

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February 27, 2017, 11:53:10 PM
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Hawaii is the ONLY state requiring a reserve.

Wyoming does as well.

Anyway...time to start burning up the speed dial on my state reps (I have personal contacts with nearly all of them).

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Always a good idea.
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February 28, 2017, 12:31:16 AM
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Hawaii is the ONLY state requiring a reserve.

Wyoming does as well.

Anyway...time to start burning up the speed dial on my state reps (I have personal contacts with nearly all of them).

 Roll Eyes

Always a good idea.
I was trusting the blog article that said otherwise re the states, but no worries...still (not really...they know what they're doing) stupid.

By this reasoning, a metals broker must hold fiat cash reserves to equal his client's vault holdings. Yeah...right...that isn't happening. This is targeted. One of my contacts at the state lege just confirmed my assumption, based on their listening to conversations in the chambers...it's not about consumer protection at all, and they're taking their cues from Trump's strategy of "alternative facts."

I'm done. Sorry for the OT. I'll survive. Now I have to talk with CEX and find out if they have a similar issue with Hawaii...

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By this reasoning, a metals broker must hold fiat cash reserves to equal his client's vault holdings.
And an automobile dealership the same level of cash as cars. I could understand a need for insurance, but not an equal amount.  Perhaps prior to the gold standard they would have had an argument.

This is targeted. ... I have to talk with CEX and find out if they have a similar issue with Hawaii...

You would probably have a case, as would Coinbase. I am sure they are trying to get a stronger foothold before challenging government.


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February 28, 2017, 10:37:18 AM
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     I previously posted this in another area, and was instructed to post this question here.

I recently pointed my miners to the Kano pool.  I show 3 payouts on my payout page, and the last block is confirmed.  I understand payouts occur 1-minute after full confirmation, yet I have none of the  payments in my wallet.  Can someone help me understand why?  The block listed next to each payout is as follows: 454689, 454847, and 454915 (the most recent block).  Again, all blocks are fully confirmed according to the web dashboard.  The total of the 3 payouts equal 0.00111481.  Not a lot of money by any stretch of the imagination, but none the less, not a "dust" payment either. 

     In addition to to telling me I posted the question in the wrong spot, there was this response:

Kano doesnt use an auto payout system, everything is done manually. For pool specific questions there is a pool subsection to ask these kinds of things in.

     Here is a quote from the Kano "Payout" page: 

When are payments sent out?

The block 'Status' must first reach '+101 Confirms' on the Blocks page, and then is flagged as 'Matured', before the reward is distributed.
The block reward transaction is created manually before the block matures, and sent out automatically a minute after the block matures.

This, to me, sounds automatic.  I was also unable to find where I could "push" the payment manually.  Could someone assist in clarifying if the payment will automatically be sent, or do I need to request payment somewhow.

Thanks...
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February 28, 2017, 10:47:36 AM
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i just joined and had similar situation....You will get your payments...usually see after 100 new blocks found on network once matured...about 1000 minutes...Smiley
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February 28, 2017, 11:05:50 AM
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I think you also have to not only wait till the block you are being paid is confirmed 100 times to get to mature.  but also then you need to wait till the next block is found to confirm the payments sent after the block was matured.  Then the payment seems to end up in the wallet soon after the next block is found on the pool. 


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February 28, 2017, 11:11:26 AM
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The bottom of the Help->Payouts page
https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

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When are payments sent out?

The block 'Status' must first reach '+101 Confirms' on the Blocks page, and then is flagged as 'Matured', before the reward is distributed.
The block reward transaction is created manually before the block matures, and sent out automatically a minute after the block matures.

The payout uses a zero fee transaction, so we will confirm it with the next block we find after the transaction is sent out.

Edit: i.e. we're a minimum fee pool, that includes the block txn fees in the reward and has zero fees on payouts.
... with the best block distribution of any pool and never any empty, no txn fee blocks Smiley

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February 28, 2017, 11:50:24 AM
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The bottom of the Help->Payouts page
https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

There's one more line ...
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When are payments sent out?

The block 'Status' must first reach '+101 Confirms' on the Blocks page, and then is flagged as 'Matured', before the reward is distributed.
The block reward transaction is created manually before the block matures, and sent out automatically a minute after the block matures.

The payout uses a zero fee transaction, so we will confirm it with the next block we find after the transaction is sent out.

Edit: i.e. we're a minimum fee pool, that includes the block txn fees in the reward and has zero fees on payouts.
... with the best block distribution of any pool and never any empty, no txn fee blocks Smiley

As I mentioned in my original post... ALL these blocks I had listed are indicating "Matured".  Maybe I'll reword the question... you have access to my mining data...when can I expect a payout?  Am I erroneously focusing on this quote..." and then is flagged as 'Matured', before the reward is distributed." ?

Thanks...
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February 28, 2017, 12:24:19 PM
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you should just like me get your payments for them last blocks that have matured right after the big long monster block we are cracking on right now gets done.    (hopefully not to much more to go on that sucker. )

i still have blocks 454847 and 454915 that have had there 100 + confirmations and are matured but I won't see the payments till the next block is cracked which is the block we are still working on that as of now is 33h 49m on that block..   




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February 28, 2017, 12:36:45 PM
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The bottom of the Help->Payouts page
https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

There's one more line ...
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When are payments sent out?

The block 'Status' must first reach '+101 Confirms' on the Blocks page, and then is flagged as 'Matured', before the reward is distributed.
The block reward transaction is created manually before the block matures, and sent out automatically a minute after the block matures.

The payout uses a zero fee transaction, so we will confirm it with the next block we find after the transaction is sent out.

Edit: i.e. we're a minimum fee pool, that includes the block txn fees in the reward and has zero fees on payouts.
... with the best block distribution of any pool and never any empty, no txn fee blocks Smiley

As I mentioned in my original post... ALL these blocks I had listed are indicating "Matured".  Maybe I'll reword the question... you have access to my mining data...when can I expect a payout?  Am I erroneously focusing on this quote..." and then is flagged as 'Matured', before the reward is distributed." ?

Thanks...
As I said above (now highlighted in red) "There's one more line ..."

The "one more line" is:
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The payout uses a zero fee transaction, so we will confirm it with the next block we find after the transaction is sent out.

No other miner/pool will confirm our zero fee payout transaction.
I force our blocks to confirm our zero fee payout transactions, so: "we will confirm it with the next block we find after the transaction is sent out."

... as smutboy420 said above Smiley

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