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January 07, 2017, 04:35:33 AM
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Heck. I don't even like Bitmain that much. I really don't care about what happens to the company. I only use the miners because they make the most money. As soon as bitfury gets their heads out of their ass's. I'll buy from them. If the A7 was any where close to being comparable.  I would buy from them. I only care about making the most amount of money so I can continue to grow my mining business.
Yep that's pretty reasonable Smiley

My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"

The S9v2 so far has been good (above expected luck), but like the A7, not a lot of data yet.

Yes but V2 firmware comes with it's own set of problems - at least in my experience and from what I've read with some others.

I've got 22 x s9's.  I had zero issues with any up until first batch about 4 months into mining one board started producing xxxx's
Not a huge issue as scripts I've written would just reboot when this occurred and it would be good for random 15min - 15hours.
I had a couple others at same time start acting up in other units, but a downclock to 525 kept them solid.

I decided to try the autotune on a couple units.  This one with the intermittent hashboard was one of two I tested.
It seemed to fix it.  Or at least it showed as hashing away correctly as did the other unit.  Other unit I updated was one that had to run 525.
Well autotune did help on this one and propped it up close to full hashrate without chips dropping.  So thinking all was well I started to update more.

That's when i started getting a headache of issues.  I updated 6 more units and seemed all good until about 24-48 hours into mining I had 4 units just stop hashing.
I could reach them via IP but they simply stopped hashing.  I'd reboot them wait 40+ minutes and they'd eventually come back to the GUI and just sit there - not hashing.
I reflashed old firmware on these 4 - same result just didn't take as long before going back to GUI with no mining.  Somehow the firmware was locking up in the PIC phase cycle and would just hang.
I then did remote reflash of firmware and still nothing.  I ended up having to travel to the remote site and pull the 4 units.  A hardware firmware reset on 2 of the controllers brought 2 of them back to life.
The other 2 would not recognize any blades until I removed everything from the chassis and re-seated everything and flashed them multiple times with the older firmware and I eventually got them to come back.
As soon as I left - 12 hours later one dropped again.  This time was not able to resurrect it - and deduced the controller has gone bunk.  So I've taken the three hash boards and piggy backed them into 3 working units for now until I can get a replacement control board.  Since then I also learned that while the one unit with intermittent hashboard wasn't really hashing away at full speed.  Pool side indicated that the board would drop, but gui hashrate never would fully reflect it.  So I've since reflashed that back to old firmware so that my script could see the dropped board and powercycle as needed to get the most out of it.

As for other bitmain products - I had 4 boards go bad with 50+ s7's, and the early firmware releases were not good as major lockups would occur requiring power cycle and some dropped chips on the boards needing reboots.  With the latest firmware though all the S7's I have almost never need a physical reboot nor drop chips.  S4's I had never had anything but reboots needed - and fan replacements, they seemed to burn through the fans.  S3 +'s nothing more than a random reboot from time to time.

Overall I think I would have been better off leaving most of the s9's on firmware v1.
Not sure if it makes a load of difference, but I have 3 or 4 different version of controller boards in these things.
Perhaps some boards do better with the v2 firmware and others don't.  Not really certain.



I have had a similar issue with a couple.  On the BM gui everything looks ok. But on kano you could tell there was definitely a problem. Updating the firmware has worked fine for me. With no problems since.
Now before everybody jumps down my throat. To me. Updating firmware is not a real problem. Just routine maintenance. All of my miners are on the latest fw.
Hopefully you get them all running again soon.
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January 07, 2017, 06:11:20 AM
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My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"


Does bitmain know about the bad luck of the S9v1 on this pool? I don't need it but I can certainly understand why some people need the manual frequency. I'm not saying it would ever happen but if enough people complained.(with the bad luck numbers) Maybe they would release a fw v2 with manual frequency.
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January 07, 2017, 06:13:18 AM
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My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"


Does bitmain know about the bad luck of the S9v1 on this pool? I don't need it but I can certainly understand why some people need the manual frequency. I'm not saying it would ever happen but if enough people complained.(with the bad luck numbers) Maybe they would release a fw v2 with manual frequency.
V2 has manual frequency, it just has the link to the page removed.

If you have to ask why, you wouldn`t understand my answer.
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January 07, 2017, 06:21:43 AM
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My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"


Does bitmain know about the bad luck of the S9v1 on this pool? I don't need it but I can certainly understand why some people need the manual frequency. I'm not saying it would ever happen but if enough people complained.(with the bad luck numbers) Maybe they would release a fw v2 with manual frequency.
V2 has manual frequency, it just has the link to the page removed.
Well...problem solved.
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January 07, 2017, 06:23:12 AM
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My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"


Does bitmain know about the bad luck of the S9v1 on this pool? I don't need it but I can certainly understand why some people need the manual frequency. I'm not saying it would ever happen but if enough people complained.(with the bad luck numbers) Maybe they would release a fw v2 with manual frequency.
Well I've told a BitmainWarranty guy who lives in the #ckpool IRC channel - he sees me regularly say the bad luck figures for quite a while Tongue
However, in the past any contact with BitmainWarranty has often not got to Bitmain in China or China just ignores it ...
I have on a few rare occasions spoken to someone in Bitmain China but I'm not fond of them and no doubt they feel the same way about me Smiley

Interesting comment today ... someone with over 100 S9 (something like 120 I think) said he gets 8 repaired ... each month ...

I asked the BitmainWarranty guy how many they repair each week.
Apparently he couldn't answer that Tongue

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January 07, 2017, 06:34:53 AM
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My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"


Does bitmain know about the bad luck of the S9v1 on this pool? I don't need it but I can certainly understand why some people need the manual frequency. I'm not saying it would ever happen but if enough people complained.(with the bad luck numbers) Maybe they would release a fw v2 with manual frequency.
Well I've told a BitmainWarranty guy who lives in the #ckpool IRC channel - he sees me regularly say the bad luck figures for quite a while Tongue
However, in the past any contact with BitmainWarranty has often not got to Bitmain in China or China just ignores it ...
I have on a few rare occasions spoken to someone in Bitmain China but I'm not fond of them and no doubt they feel the same way about me Smiley

Interesting comment today ... someone with over 100 S9 (something like 120 I think) said he gets 8 repaired ... each month ...

I asked the BitmainWarranty guy how many they repair each week.
Apparently he couldn't answer that Tongue

Interesting.
Are they over clocked?
Are they exausting the heat properly?
Is this at a place that hosts?
Or in their basement?
Any power surges?
Are they using two psu on one miner?
If so are they connecting them properly?
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January 07, 2017, 06:48:06 AM
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My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"


Does bitmain know about the bad luck of the S9v1 on this pool? I don't need it but I can certainly understand why some people need the manual frequency. I'm not saying it would ever happen but if enough people complained.(with the bad luck numbers) Maybe they would release a fw v2 with manual frequency.
Well I've told a BitmainWarranty guy who lives in the #ckpool IRC channel - he sees me regularly say the bad luck figures for quite a while Tongue
However, in the past any contact with BitmainWarranty has often not got to Bitmain in China or China just ignores it ...
I have on a few rare occasions spoken to someone in Bitmain China but I'm not fond of them and no doubt they feel the same way about me Smiley

Interesting comment today ... someone with over 100 S9 (something like 120 I think) said he gets 8 repaired ... each month ...

I asked the BitmainWarranty guy how many they repair each week.
Apparently he couldn't answer that Tongue

Interesting.
Are they over clocked?
Are they exausting the heat properly?
Is this at a place that hosts?
Or in their basement?
Any power surges?
Are they using two psu on one miner?
If so are they connecting them properly?

Lulz you prolly don't even know that about your own miners.

I do know his numbers are correct coz he has mined on the pool ...
He doesn't mess with the miners.
If you don't connect your miners properly, they don't work or die very quickly Tongue
I doubt anyone has 120 or so S9 miners in their basement ... don't ask silly questions.

Apparently losing internet is possible to cause the S9 to fail also (according to Bitmain)

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January 07, 2017, 07:07:25 AM
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My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"


Does bitmain know about the bad luck of the S9v1 on this pool? I don't need it but I can certainly understand why some people need the manual frequency. I'm not saying it would ever happen but if enough people complained.(with the bad luck numbers) Maybe they would release a fw v2 with manual frequency.
Well I've told a BitmainWarranty guy who lives in the #ckpool IRC channel - he sees me regularly say the bad luck figures for quite a while Tongue
However, in the past any contact with BitmainWarranty has often not got to Bitmain in China or China just ignores it ...
I have on a few rare occasions spoken to someone in Bitmain China but I'm not fond of them and no doubt they feel the same way about me Smiley

Interesting comment today ... someone with over 100 S9 (something like 120 I think) said he gets 8 repaired ... each month ...

I asked the BitmainWarranty guy how many they repair each week.
Apparently he couldn't answer that Tongue

Interesting.
Are they over clocked?
Are they exausting the heat properly?
Is this at a place that hosts?
Or in their basement?
Any power surges?
Are they using two psu on one miner?
If so are they connecting them properly?

Lulz you prolly don't even know that about your own miners.

I do know his numbers are correct coz he has mined on the pool ...
He doesn't mess with the miners.
If you don't connect your miners properly, they don't work or die very quickly Tongue
I doubt anyone has 120 or so S9 miners in their basement ... don't ask silly questions.

Apparently losing internet is possible to cause the S9 to fail also (according to Bitmain)

That is certainly not a good rate.
Do they know what batches this is happening to?
Are these different miners each time or the same equipment failing?
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January 07, 2017, 09:23:17 AM
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Block! wohooo Canaan A7
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January 07, 2017, 09:25:51 AM
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Block! wohooo Canaan A7
A7v2 Smiley

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January 07, 2017, 09:31:39 AM
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V2?!

You mean A741 or A721 with new firmware?
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January 07, 2017, 09:34:56 AM
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Excellent work K, hope you find a block!

Block! By canaan.. Are we still Friday :-) 
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January 07, 2017, 09:46:17 AM
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Heck. I don't even like Bitmain that much. I really don't care about what happens to the company. I only use the miners because they make the most money. As soon as bitfury gets their heads out of their ass's. I'll buy from them. If the A7 was any where close to being comparable.  I would buy from them. I only care about making the most amount of money so I can continue to grow my mining business.
Yep that's pretty reasonable Smiley

My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"

The S9v2 so far has been good (above expected luck), but like the A7, not a lot of data yet.

The new firmware from bitmain S9 or R4 seem to take a post 10mins before staring to hash. As any of you wonder what happen during these 10mins? Can it be possible that the miner warm up hashing somewhere for bitmain ?  Its only 10mins but multiply by x it can be substantial   
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January 07, 2017, 09:52:00 AM
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V2?!

You mean A741 or A721 with new firmware?
I'm not sure which, I'd guess it might be A741
But it's simply a case of identifying itself differently from the original A7 version, so I call it A7v2 Smiley

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January 07, 2017, 09:57:28 AM
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Heck. I don't even like Bitmain that much. I really don't care about what happens to the company. I only use the miners because they make the most money. As soon as bitfury gets their heads out of their ass's. I'll buy from them. If the A7 was any where close to being comparable.  I would buy from them. I only care about making the most amount of money so I can continue to grow my mining business.
Yep that's pretty reasonable Smiley

My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"

The S9v2 so far has been good (above expected luck), but like the A7, not a lot of data yet.

The new firmware from bitmain S9 or R4 seem to take a post 10mins before staring to hash. As any of you wonder what happen during these 10mins? Can it be possible that the miner warm up hashing somewhere for bitmain ?  Its only 10mins but multiply by x it can be substantial   
The A7 did that also, but my minor fix to the cron timing made it a lot shorter.
It may be related?

Also, the A7 is normally quite slow to get up to full speed to avoid overrunning the 16nm chip limits - maybe Bitmain thought that was a good idea also ... to reduce failures? Tongue

If I had the answer to how many a week BitmainWarranty repairs, that would give a good idea of the amount of failures the S9 has.
The fact that he "couldn't" tell me maybe also suggests something ... ... ...

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January 07, 2017, 10:45:16 AM
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Heck. I don't even like Bitmain that much. I really don't care about what happens to the company. I only use the miners because they make the most money. As soon as bitfury gets their heads out of their ass's. I'll buy from them. If the A7 was any where close to being comparable.  I would buy from them. I only care about making the most amount of money so I can continue to grow my mining business.
Yep that's pretty reasonable Smiley

My stats posts, which are supposed to have nothing to do with that Tongue, are about the fact that a particular firmware, S9v1 has REALLY bad luck on the pool.
To the point where it is unlikely to just be "bad luck"

The S9v2 so far has been good (above expected luck), but like the A7, not a lot of data yet.

The new firmware from bitmain S9 or R4 seem to take a post 10mins before staring to hash. As any of you wonder what happen during these 10mins? Can it be possible that the miner warm up hashing somewhere for bitmain ?  Its only 10mins but multiply by x it can be substantial   
The A7 did that also, but my minor fix to the cron timing made it a lot shorter.
It may be related?

Also, the A7 is normally quite slow to get up to full speed to avoid overrunning the 16nm chip limits - maybe Bitmain thought that was a good idea also ... to reduce failures? Tongue

If I had the answer to how many a week BitmainWarranty repairs, that would give a good idea of the amount of failures the S9 has.
The fact that he "couldn't" tell me maybe also suggests something ... ... ...

Glad we only have ONE s9, was very pricey at the time.  Mining on S7 for almost 14 month and had less then 2% failing rate. A6 was more like 10% for the same period. Let see what these R4 do
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January 07, 2017, 12:27:47 PM
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block! by loki76 with 12.01THs !  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy 3 Block of Day!

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January 07, 2017, 12:42:03 PM
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block! by loki76 with 12.01THs !  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy 3 Block of Day!

Woo block Saturday!

We are now green for January (so far) Cheesy

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January 07, 2017, 12:45:37 PM
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block! by loki76 with 12.01THs !  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy 3 Block of Day!
That was probably an S5 (or possibly an S3)

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January 07, 2017, 01:04:05 PM
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Hash rate up here by a PH or so and seems to be climbing

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