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[Megaquake]

Is kano still alive?
5 days ago i setup 10 pcs of S9 to kano, and still NOTHING.
I think btc.com or antpool is much better.... for example, 10 pcs of S9 on btc.com gives me 0.016 BTC daily.

Be patient you will make much more than that here!

Takes a bit to ramp up, some people get impatient and leave but when the blocks start rolling in they regret leaving when they see the payments coming in

[AerialGopher]

Is kano still alive?
5 days ago i setup 10 pcs of S9 to kano, and still NOTHING.
I think btc.com or antpool is much better.... for example, 10 pcs of S9 on btc.com gives me 0.016 BTC daily.

0.016 per S9  /10 = .0016 per s9?   Funny I am getting .002795 per s9 up until the last block.  I have not calculated it until today though.

Wait, I'll update the number of days in my excel sheet to see what it is......  AND...
 THE ANSWER IS  .002399 per day per S9  - Calculated for a 13.5 TH S9
 so, .002399 - .0016 = .000799   X your 10 S9 = .00799 x  $11700 US =   $93.483

WOW!  That is the number you want to give up PER DAY..

Just imagine what it is when BTC is at 20000 usd

fyi that is 159.80 per day
And $1118.60 per week
and $4794 per 30 days  (  Free S9 here )
WOW!  $58327 per year!

Ok I get it, the equation is not linear...  but you get the point.

[manduul]

Is kano still alive?
5 days ago i setup 10 pcs of S9 to kano, and still NOTHING.
I think btc.com or antpool is much better.... for example, 10 pcs of S9 on btc.com gives me 0.016 BTC daily.

0.016 per S9  /10 = .0016 per s9?   Funny I am getting .002795 per s9 up until the last block.  I have not calculated it until today though.

Wait, I'll update the number of days in my excel sheet to see what it is......  AND...
 THE ANSWER IS  .002399 per day per S9  - Calculated for a 13.5 TH S9
 so, .002399 - .0016 = .000799   X your 10 S9 = .00799 x  $11700 US =   $93.483

WOW!  That is the number you want to give up PER DAY..

Just imagine what it is when BTC is at 20000 usd

fyi that is 159.80 per day
And $1118.60 per week
and $4794 per 30 days  (  Free S9 here )
WOW!  $58327 per year!

Ok I get it, the equation is not linear...  but you get the point.

Dang! I'm looking forward to Dec 2018. I'd have a full Bitcoin by then

Anyways, I see blocks are averaging like 14 BTC today, dropping from 17 just couple of days ago. Do you guys jump to other pools who pay TX fees to the miners when blocks are like 20+ BTC?

[timewilltell2017]

This pool pays TX fees... This is exactly the pool you should jump to!



(and never leave again...  )

[manduul]

This pool pays TX fees... This is exactly the pool you should jump to!



(and never leave again...  )

Haha, if Kano didn't, I wouldn't mine here. I was just thinking, when blocks are like 20+ BTC and our chance of finding a block during those days is 1 in 4 days right? So maybe you'd jump to Slush to get those high rewards..?

[alexjames2]

Did you mean slushpool.com ?
Why are you thinking it's better?


PS
ping stratum.slushpool.com
PING stratum.slushpool.com (54.160.42.250): 56 data bytes

--- stratum.slushpool.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

[manduul]

Did you mean slushpool.com ?
Why are you thinking it's better?


PS
ping stratum.slushpool.com
PING stratum.slushpool.com (54.160.42.250): 56 data bytes

--- stratum.slushpool.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

Never mind. I saw here on the forum experienced members were jumping to Slush when those tx fees were freaking high.

[Tnaa97]

Sorry if I missed this, but how can we see how much difficulty was accomplished in a shift?

I am not talking about the individual difficulty that I mined - I can see that on https://kano.is/index.php?k=shifts

I am talking about the difficulty mined for the pool as a whole.    For example, I can see that we currently have 3,791,272,282,182 difficulty completed since the last block was found, but is there somewhere that shows that number per shift?

Well you can calculate it from the Pool->Graph

But no, it's not listed anywhere per shift.

Sooo... What's the equation? ~

Well you'd have to look at both the Shifts page and the Pool->Graph
When you move your mouse over the Pool->Graph you'll see the hash rate HR to 2 decimal places.
Find the matching shift (see the time) to work out how long ST the shift was in seconds then:
HR * ST / (2 ^32)
The reason being: 1 Diff is 2^32 hashes - so 1 TH/s is 1x10^12/(2^32) Diff per second - then multiply by the number of seconds in the shift.

Cool THANKS!!

[Newko]

Did you mean slushpool.com ?
Why are you thinking it's better?


PS
ping stratum.slushpool.com
PING stratum.slushpool.com (54.160.42.250): 56 data bytes

--- stratum.slushpool.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

Never mind. I saw here on the forum experienced members were jumping to Slush when those tx fees were freaking high.

Pool hopping makes no sense, especially if you jump to a pool that doesn't even pay transaction fees.
The experienced and knowledgable miners stay right here.

[voodooman]

I thought slush didn't pay TX fees to his miners!??
Looks like somebody should read the fine-prints. 

Anyway:
Short question to master kano.

Would it make sense to fill in a manual higher difficulty in the worker settings
or is it better to just leave it automatic?

I didn't read anything about manually set the difiiculty and how this would affect my share rate
or the whole pool hashrate.

I only know that a higher difficulty hash is worth more than a lower,
but for a more difficult hash the miner needs more time.

Just like to know if it's worth setting the difficulty a bit higher than the automatic one.

MINE ON AND LET'S GET THIS BLOCK DONE!

[smartass111]

Guys, could someone explain one thing for me?
If my understanding is right - new block contains ~1kb transactions data and this info should be hashed. Right?
Then, what if pool finds some good enough hash for new block - but there was another block discovered in network, which already contains some of our transactions. Would such block be invalid?

Or am I completely wrong here, and transactions are added only after new block hash is found?

[Runes911]

Is there a discord for Kano's pool?

[alexjames2]

Is this OK: http://take.ms/T7SIk ?
Or maybe something is wrong?
BTW same question about the difficulty.... i'm do not change any settings: http://take.ms/CrdiP

[Megaquake]

Is this OK: http://take.ms/T7SIk ?
Or maybe something is wrong?
BTW same question about the difficulty.... i'm do not change any settings: http://take.ms/CrdiP

You are good

[wavelengthsf]

Guys, could someone explain one thing for me?
If my understanding is right - new block contains ~1kb transactions data and this info should be hashed. Right?
Then, what if pool finds some good enough hash for new block - but there was another block discovered in network, which already contains some of our transactions. Would such block be invalid?

Or am I completely wrong here, and transactions are added only after new block hash is found?

A new block header contains a few things that are hashed:

A version, the hash of the previous block, the time, the nonce (a random number), the difficulty target and a hash of all the transactions you're including in that block (the merkle root.)

That header is then appended to the transaction data.

When a new block is found, the header elements and the transaction data change across the network. It is possible that someone else, somewhere else in the world, finds a block around the same time, and at that case only one of those blocks is valid. This rarely happens because pools use the FIBRE network.

This is why it takes 101 confirmations for coins to mature - if your block was found to be orphaned, because the other block had more blocks built on top of it, the pool would lose those coins.

Is there a discord for Kano's pool?

There's an IRC channel.

[rifleman74]

Tick tick tick tick tick, crack crack crack crack


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

[DPoS2]

LOL, this is my karma so affected 

you probably want to ramp up while the luck is down and then once you are fully ramped get the luck to hit like it did just a while back with 4 blocks in 2 days

my math is probably wrong but just saying if we did hit a bunch of blocks when you just joined you would be complaining on the low payouts for pre-ramp

[tke1600]

LOL, this is my karma so affected 

you probably want to ramp up while the luck is down and then once you are fully ramped get the luck to hit like it did just a while back with 4 blocks in 2 days

my math is probably wrong but just saying if we did hit a bunch of blocks when you just joined you would be complaining on the low payouts for pre-ramp

I think in any case it's better to just find blocks as quick as you can lol.

A silver lining for ramping up is that a bunch of blocks weren't found, but that also doesn't mean that a bunch of blocks will be found once you're already ramped up either.

I am having the toughest time with all this, as I pointed my machines at Kano when I got my first couple S9's running from Jan 1-7th, and then moved the rest of mine on January 16th right after the last block was found.  Long story short, I am the ultimate jinx since there has been no blocks found while I'm pointing towards the pool during the 12+ days I've been on.  I did get paid out the small amount during the lucky stretch, so I understand how it all works, just getting scared to death of the 300%+ blocks that would add up to 10 days or longer with difficulty jumps, etc.

[mtaboneweb]

LOL, this is my karma so affected  

you probably want to ramp up while the luck is down and then once you are fully ramped get the luck to hit like it did just a while back with 4 blocks in 2 days

my math is probably wrong but just saying if we did hit a bunch of blocks when you just joined you would be complaining on the low payouts for pre-ramp

Personally I hope for as many blocks as possible and I'm still ramping up my 3-S9's for about 6+ days now. People always say, wait till I ramp up but I'd rather see small payouts getting bigger along the way. Better for the pool, better for me, better for everyone to find as many as we can. Of course I understand my payouts will start small and grow.

My last rewarded amount was 0.00233581 BTC (block reward of 15.37449385 BTC) for 4.60 Th/s. Fully ramped at 40.5-ish Th/s would be 0.02056528 BTC. I also understand I'll get this reward once we find the next block so... again... better to keep finding blocks.

I'm one of those impatient ones that stupidly left and came back. It will be worth it in the long run.

My progress...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fdipoammiq37kxx/2018-01-21_11-24-22.jpg?dl=0

[mtaboneweb]

LOL, this is my karma so affected  

you probably want to ramp up while the luck is down and then once you are fully ramped get the luck to hit like it did just a while back with 4 blocks in 2 days

my math is probably wrong but just saying if we did hit a bunch of blocks when you just joined you would be complaining on the low payouts for pre-ramp

I think in any case it's better to just find blocks as quick as you can lol.

A silver lining for ramping up is that a bunch of blocks weren't found, but that also doesn't mean that a bunch of blocks will be found once you're already ramped up either.

I am having the toughest time with all this, as I pointed my machines at Kano when I got my first couple S9's running from Jan 1-7th, and then moved the rest of mine on January 16th right after the last block was found.  Long story short, I am the ultimate jinx since there has been no blocks found while I'm pointing towards the pool during the 12+ days I've been on.  I did get paid out the small amount during the lucky stretch, so I understand how it all works, just getting scared to death of the 300%+ blocks that would add up to 10 days or longer with difficulty jumps, etc.

So it's your fault? Thank god, I thought it was me... Just kidding. Historically this happens with any pool. It just happens to be more apparent if the pool itself doesn't find a lot of blocks due to size of the pool. This also means we get paid better as miners for the blocks we do find. Keep that in mind.