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[tke1600]

LOL, this is my karma so affected  

you probably want to ramp up while the luck is down and then once you are fully ramped get the luck to hit like it did just a while back with 4 blocks in 2 days

my math is probably wrong but just saying if we did hit a bunch of blocks when you just joined you would be complaining on the low payouts for pre-ramp

I think in any case it's better to just find blocks as quick as you can lol.

A silver lining for ramping up is that a bunch of blocks weren't found, but that also doesn't mean that a bunch of blocks will be found once you're already ramped up either.

I am having the toughest time with all this, as I pointed my machines at Kano when I got my first couple S9's running from Jan 1-7th, and then moved the rest of mine on January 16th right after the last block was found.  Long story short, I am the ultimate jinx since there has been no blocks found while I'm pointing towards the pool during the 12+ days I've been on.  I did get paid out the small amount during the lucky stretch, so I understand how it all works, just getting scared to death of the 300%+ blocks that would add up to 10 days or longer with difficulty jumps, etc.

So it's your fault? Thank god, I thought it was me... Just kidding. Historically this happens with any pool. It just happens to be more apparent if the pool itself doesn't find a lot of blocks due to size of the pool. This also means we get paid better as miners for the blocks we do find. Keep that in mind.

Yea.  I have been in "research" phase since I ordered my miners in late November.  The part of the mining that I didn't understand until recently was just how chaotic and random the luck factor is.  At first, I was under the impression that with such large numbers the luck factor would even out faster, but have quickly learned it is actually really insane short term, and unfortunately even over periods of months, not always close to 100%.

[bQPFzWplaO32E39Vfv84Us47r]

anyone by any chance running two S9's on this pool?
I am on btc.com and want to compare earnings! 

https://boltimg.com/images/l7pGF.png

thanks

[wavelengthsf]

With TX fees at their lowest point in months, this is a good day for miners to consolidate transactions to save on those fees in the future. (Even better if you can consolidate to a SegWit address!)

[mtaboneweb]

anyone by any chance running two S9's on this pool?
I am on btc.com and want to compare earnings! 

https://boltimg.com/images/l7pGF.png

thanks

This was my comparison for 3 between SlushPool and Kano for 3-S9s. Easy enough to divide by 3 and times by 2.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg28131605#msg28131605

Kano

Here are my Kano payouts that I'm still getting even though I've been off the pool for some time now. Columns... Your N Avg, Your BTC, and what that reward would be if I was 40.5 Th/s for 3 miners.

2.64   0.00127068      0.01949339
2.63   0.00149492      0.02302063
2.63   0.00158584      0.02442073
3.05   0.00179686      0.02385994
2.97   0.00179906      0.02453264
2.95   0.00172792      0.02372229

That's a total of 0.13904962 BTC if I were fully ramped. This is 0.05095098 BTC more than what I've earned on Slush in the last 14 days with only 6 blocks found on Kano.

SlushPool

On average I am getting 0.00629276 BTC per day on SlushPool which over the past 14 days would be 0.08809864 BTC and they find between 12-20 blocks per day. Believe me when I say I keep extreme records of my mining activity. Below is a breakdown of SlushPool taking the total payout so far (since mining with 3-S9s) and the total seconds to achieve that then used to come up with the minute, hour, week, etc. numbers.

Per Minute - 0.00000437
Per Hour - 0.00026220
Per Day - 0.00629276
Per Week - 0.04404935
Per Month - 0.19088051
Per Year - 2.29056607

Block Value (AVG) - 16.58 BTC
My Hash (AVG) - 40.70 Th/s
Pool Hash (AVG) - 1.82 Eh/s
Block Time (AVG) - 1.39 Hours
Blocks Found - 149    
My Average Block Reward - 0.00036360 BTC

[fjtropepe]

anyone by any chance running two S9's on this pool?
I am on btc.com and want to compare earnings! 

https://boltimg.com/images/l7pGF.png

thanks

Just go back 5 pages and you will get all the comparison data you need.

[minergain.com]

Did you mean slushpool.com ?
Why are you thinking it's better?


PS
ping stratum.slushpool.com
PING stratum.slushpool.com (54.160.42.250): 56 data bytes

--- stratum.slushpool.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

Never mind. I saw here on the forum experienced members were jumping to Slush when those tx fees were freaking high.

Minergain has a real time comparison between Slush and Kano on the home page for the past week, month, quarter and year in CDT (Coins per Day per TH/s).  Multiply all of your miner's hash rate by those values and it will give you what you "would have" made if you were fully ramped up on each.  The week value is not extremely valuable since we have been working on the current block for almost 6 days now.  The quarter one is a little iffy because we had two 800%+ blocks in October.  The biggest one to consider is that 365 days times .00041726 times 13.5 gives 2.056 BTC for the last year for one S9 miner at Kano and 1.8971 BTC for Slush.  Obviously difficulty increases and variance will impact that number for 2018, but there is no contest which pool to be in over the long term.  Oh, and yes, Slush does pay tx fees, and these calculations include those super high ones that Slush was seeing so frequently.

[Vertflyer]

The last 2 network blocks were found by Ant, were 12.5 BTC and only 286 Bytes each. Does that mean there were no transactions on them? Is that something that normally happens?

[manduul]

I really wanna say thank you to Minergain.com

And CKPool stat app dev.

And Kano.

And of course, this community.

I have one last question. When I go to my "Workers" page in Kano website, there's this "Block %". Does it show the estimate of my reward if a block is found at that moment? For example, mine is at 0.026%. If we find a block of 15 BTC my reward will be 15/100=0.15*0.026=0.0039 BTC? And that reward will be paid out on the next block we find, if we find it after 100 confirmations for the prev block right?

And thanks again guys.

I did read few posts about temperature situation for S9, and here's my thought. I leave my S9 out on my balcony which is currently -20c inside, but outside it about -40c. It has a single window and I leave it open all the way. My miner would get close to a hundred thousand HW errors, that makes it hash real low and jump between different stratums for some reason. That's a 59c on the miner status page. I now shut my balcony window a little bit, so there's a very little cold airflow. Miner is happy at 65, and hashing real good. So, too cold is bad, too hot is bad.

Mine on

[bQPFzWplaO32E39Vfv84Us47r]

anyone by any chance running two S9's on this pool?
I am on btc.com and want to compare earnings! 

https://boltimg.com/images/l7pGF.png

thanks

This was my comparison for 3 between SlushPool and Kano for 3-S9s. Easy enough to divide by 3 and times by 2.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg28131605#msg28131605

Kano

Here are my Kano payouts that I'm still getting even though I've been off the pool for some time now. Columns... Your N Avg, Your BTC, and what that reward would be if I was 40.5 Th/s for 3 miners.

2.64   0.00127068      0.01949339
2.63   0.00149492      0.02302063
2.63   0.00158584      0.02442073
3.05   0.00179686      0.02385994
2.97   0.00179906      0.02453264
2.95   0.00172792      0.02372229

That's a total of 0.13904962 BTC if I were fully ramped. This is 0.05095098 BTC more than what I've earned on Slush in the last 14 days with only 6 blocks found on Kano.

SlushPool

On average I am getting 0.00629276 BTC per day on SlushPool which over the past 14 days would be 0.08809864 BTC and they find between 12-20 blocks per day. Believe me when I say I keep extreme records of my mining activity. Below is a breakdown of SlushPool taking the total payout so far (since mining with 3-S9s) and the total seconds to achieve that then used to come up with the minute, hour, week, etc. numbers.

Per Minute - 0.00000437
Per Hour - 0.00026220
Per Day - 0.00629276
Per Week - 0.04404935
Per Month - 0.19088051
Per Year - 2.29056607

Block Value (AVG) - 16.58 BTC
My Hash (AVG) - 40.70 Th/s
Pool Hash (AVG) - 1.82 Eh/s
Block Time (AVG) - 1.39 Hours
Blocks Found - 149    
My Average Block Reward - 0.00036360 BTC

[?]          [?]                    [?]
2.64   0.00127068      0.01949339
...

per day? per week?


...This is 0.05095098 BTC more than what I've earned on Slush in the last 14 days....

I've never tried slush!
I'll give kano a go then slush... maybe 5 days for each pool!
we'll see, thanks for the charts!

[mtaboneweb]

anyone by any chance running two S9's on this pool?
I am on btc.com and want to compare earnings!  

https://boltimg.com/images/l7pGF.png

thanks

This was my comparison for 3 between SlushPool and Kano for 3-S9s. Easy enough to divide by 3 and times by 2.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg28131605#msg28131605

Kano

Here are my Kano payouts that I'm still getting even though I've been off the pool for some time now. Columns... Your N Avg, Your BTC, and what that reward would be if I was 40.5 Th/s for 3 miners.

2.64   0.00127068      0.01949339
2.63   0.00149492      0.02302063
2.63   0.00158584      0.02442073
3.05   0.00179686      0.02385994
2.97   0.00179906      0.02453264
2.95   0.00172792      0.02372229

That's a total of 0.13904962 BTC if I were fully ramped. This is 0.05095098 BTC more than what I've earned on Slush in the last 14 days with only 6 blocks found on Kano.

[?]          [?]                    [?]
2.64   0.00127068      0.01949339
...

per day? per week?


...This is 0.05095098 BTC more than what I've earned on Slush in the last 14 days....

I've never tried slush!
I'll give kano a go then slush... maybe 5 days for each pool!
we'll see, thanks for the charts!

Columns... Your N Avg, Your BTC, and what that reward would be if I was 40.5 Th/s for 3 miners.

N Avg - What was my hash rating
BTC - what did I get paid for that hash rating
3rd column - what would I have received if ramped to 40.5 (3-S9s)

[fjtropepe]

I've never tried slush!
I'll give kano a go then slush... maybe 5 days for each pool!
we'll see, thanks for the charts!

Go back and read a few pages.  

[bigolin]

I've never tried slush!
I'll give kano a go then slush... maybe 5 days for each pool!
we'll see, thanks for the charts!

Go back and read a few pages.  

I agree...if you are going to mine for 5 days and use that as your test, then save yourself the trouble and just mine at Slush because you will be happier. However, if you are looking for the pool that pays you the most over time, then this is far superior to Slush.

I have been a part of this pool since January 12th and I already see why people get aggravated answering the same exact questions again and again. Please read a bit so you understand that mining for 5 days will not make you happy here, it wont leave you with a realistic outlook on your potential here, and will only leave you bitter at this pool.

All of the info is here, you just neee to read it and see how it applies.

[kano]

I thought slush didn't pay TX fees to his miners!??
Looks like somebody should read the fine-prints.  

Anyway:
Short question to master kano.

Would it make sense to fill in a manual higher difficulty in the worker settings
or is it better to just leave it automatic?

I didn't read anything about manually set the difiiculty and how this would affect my share rate
or the whole pool hashrate.

I only know that a higher difficulty hash is worth more than a lower,
but for a more difficult hash the miner needs more time.

Just like to know if it's worth setting the difficulty a bit higher than the automatic one.

MINE ON AND LET'S GET THIS BLOCK DONE!

The difficulty set by the pool is fine.
There's no reason to change it for a normal miner.
Some firmware versions on some old bitmain miners didn't display properly if the work difficulty value was an exact power of 2 - but it didn't affect the rewards, only the display on the miner.

[bQPFzWplaO32E39Vfv84Us47r]

I've never tried slush!
I'll give kano a go then slush... maybe 5 days for each pool!
we'll see, thanks for the charts!

Go back and read a few pages.  

I agree...if you are going to mine for 5 days and use that as your test, then save yourself the trouble and just mine at Slush because you will be happier. However, if you are looking for the pool that pays you the most over time, then this is far superior to Slush.

I have been a part of this pool since January 12th and I already see why people get aggravated answering the same exact questions again and again. Please read a bit so you understand that mining for 5 days will not make you happy here, it wont leave you with a realistic outlook on your potential here, and will only leave you bitter at this pool.

All of the info is here, you just neee to read it and see how it applies.

I promise that I'll go back and read b4 I ask

https://boltimg.com/images/lRmeM.png
*I just changed to EU nodes!

b4 that... @ the image above :p

1. (Worker Management) are those left to be 0 by most ppl here?

2. (User Shift Reward Perf.)
what do ppl put in there...
as I understood it, just adding:
001
or
002 should do it!

3. DiffR# ... 0!

4.

...Please read a bit so you understand that mining for 5 days will not make you happy here, it wont leave you with a realistic outlook on your potential here, and will only leave you bitter at this pool...

can you clear out some more! I read some and expected rewards and payments depend on the block being found... 2 weeks later...[yes] or [no]

how does the pool pay anyway!
there are no settings for that, just the

Damn, too many nice ppl here btw.

 

[mtaboneweb]

I've never tried slush!
I'll give kano a go then slush... maybe 5 days for each pool!
we'll see, thanks for the charts!

Go back and read a few pages.  

I agree...if you are going to mine for 5 days and use that as your test, then save yourself the trouble and just mine at Slush because you will be happier. However, if you are looking for the pool that pays you the most over time, then this is far superior to Slush.

I have been a part of this pool since January 12th and I already see why people get aggravated answering the same exact questions again and again. Please read a bit so you understand that mining for 5 days will not make you happy here, it wont leave you with a realistic outlook on your potential here, and will only leave you bitter at this pool.

All of the info is here, you just neee to read it and see how it applies.

Everything they said^ plus...

You have better benefits here the longer you mine once you’ve ramped up. Other pools like Slush and I can be ramped in just over an hour is good and bad. Means large amounts of hashing can come on and in a very small amount of time and your rewards go way down. Here at Kano, the loyal are paid better so if a huge amount of extra hashing is applied then you aren’t loosing anywhere near as much because they would have to be on for a long time to get paid in full for their efforts. Helps us in the short term when it’s been a while since last block but doesn’t allow them to steal all our thunder.

[bigolin]

In other news today is a sad day for me. Running your miners on your dryer's 220v connection temporarily is awesome, until it's laundry day. I swear next time I'm taking the laundry to a laundromat.

All 4 miners are taking a breather while the undies get 90% dry.

#goodenough
#dedication
#mineon

[wavelengthsf]

In other news today is a sad day for me. Running your miners on your dryer's 220v connection temporarily is awesome, until it's laundry day. I swear next time I'm taking the laundry to a laundromat.

All 4 miners are taking a breather while the undies get 90% dry.

#goodenough
#dedication
#mineon

Aw come on - why not just hang the undies a little bit away from the hot exhaust of your miners? It might take a little longer, but you'll be getting double the value from them.

[nazzer]

In other news today is a sad day for me. Running your miners on your dryer's 220v connection temporarily is awesome, until it's laundry day. I swear next time I'm taking the laundry to a laundromat.

All 4 miners are taking a breather while the undies get 90% dry.

#goodenough
#dedication
#mineon

Aw come on - why not just hang the undies a little bit away from the hot exhaust of your miners? It might take a little longer, but you'll be getting double the value from them.

My mining room doubles as a drying closet, don't need to buy a dryer anymore ...

C'mon, 1 in 7.4!

[Minty_Andy]

My mining room doubles as a drying closet, don't need to buy a dryer anymore ...

C'mon, 1 in 7.4!

Only problem here is that all that moisture is then being sucked through your miners since its airborne.

[Minty_Andy]

I was able to fix the S7 that had burned up power connections...

So +5ths to the chain...

Its totally gong to be the straw that breaks the block... i can feel it.