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[kano]

Want to make a point re luck, CDF, etc.
Let me start with a point that long term luck is fine, I have no qualms.

In a more granular picture, if you started mining in May of last year, then you are "missing" about 14 blocks, give or take, which is about 4% of all blocks during that period. Granted, if you extend to one year, then you'll have what is expected, even slightly more.

As you can see by sheer number, there were much more blocks coming even a few months ago.
Kano cannot control how many miners mine here, but the result is that with a current trend of relatively stable hash, it would be difficult to 'gain back' those 14 blocks in a reasonable time frame.

In fact, going forward, you always have 100% luck expectation, there is no 'compensation' for bad luck.
That said, maybe he will have 110% luck for half a year, i would be fine with that.

In general, this used to be a much happier place, even when the luck was temporarily low.
Suggestion: need another 100-150 PH hash, pronto.

But there's also a point to make about that drop in luck that occurred ...

It's expected to happen ... on every pool.

There will always be changes in luck - sometimes up, sometimes down.

If someone can handle the up-swings, but can't handle the down-swings, then high fee PPS is where I guess they need to be.

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[rifleman74]

What are the chances of us cracking over 30 blocks again without getting more hashing power here?

If everybody went out and bought just one more new miner we would add about 20 PH to the pool.

I got 7 more on the way. Who else is in?

2 Avalon 8's should be here tomorrow and set up this weekend.

[DPoS2]

Want to make a point re luck, CDF, etc.
Let me start with a point that long term luck is fine, I have no qualms.

In a more granular picture, if you started mining in May of last year, then you are "missing" about 14 blocks, give or take, which is about 4% of all blocks during that period. Granted, if you extend to one year, then you'll have what is expected, even slightly more.

As you can see by sheer number, there were much more blocks coming even a few months ago.
Kano cannot control how many miners mine here, but the result is that with a current trend of relatively stable hash, it would be difficult to 'gain back' those 14 blocks in a reasonable time frame.

In fact, going forward, you always have 100% luck expectation, there is no 'compensation' for bad luck.
That said, maybe he will have 110% luck for half a year, i would be fine with that.

In general, this used to be a much happier place, even when the luck was temporarily low.
Suggestion: need another 100-150 PH hash, pronto.

But there's also a point to make about that drop in luck that occurred ...

It's expected to happen ... on every pool.

There will always be changes in luck - sometimes up, sometimes down.

If someone can handle the up-swings, but can't handle the down-swings, then high fee PPS is where I guess they need to be.

Luck doesn't scale down very well.  You keep thinking that a small set will be as consistent as a large set... small sets bottom out.     I have ran out of ways to explain this to ya'll

[ecosprog]

What are the chances of us cracking over 30 blocks again without getting more hashing power here?

If everybody went out and bought just one more new miner we would add about 20 PH to the pool.

I got 7 more on the way. Who else is in?

2 Avalon 8's should be here tomorrow and set up this weekend.

I´ve got two brand new Avalon 741´s that have been sitting here since the beginning of January. Just waiting on the electricity company to upgrade my power supply. Once done, i´ll be adding another 15TH/s. Could also be in the market for a couple of A841´s.

[kano]

Want to make a point re luck, CDF, etc.
Let me start with a point that long term luck is fine, I have no qualms.

In a more granular picture, if you started mining in May of last year, then you are "missing" about 14 blocks, give or take, which is about 4% of all blocks during that period. Granted, if you extend to one year, then you'll have what is expected, even slightly more.

As you can see by sheer number, there were much more blocks coming even a few months ago.
Kano cannot control how many miners mine here, but the result is that with a current trend of relatively stable hash, it would be difficult to 'gain back' those 14 blocks in a reasonable time frame.

In fact, going forward, you always have 100% luck expectation, there is no 'compensation' for bad luck.
That said, maybe he will have 110% luck for half a year, i would be fine with that.

In general, this used to be a much happier place, even when the luck was temporarily low.
Suggestion: need another 100-150 PH hash, pronto.

But there's also a point to make about that drop in luck that occurred ...

It's expected to happen ... on every pool.

There will always be changes in luck - sometimes up, sometimes down.

If someone can handle the up-swings, but can't handle the down-swings, then high fee PPS is where I guess they need to be.

Luck doesn't scale down very well.  You keep thinking that a small set will be as consistent as a large set... small sets bottom out.     I have ran out of ways to explain this to ya'll

That's called increased variance ... I've said that every time.

The problem is that you have yet to specify what is 'small'.

Some arbitrary unspecified number that covers any pool smaller than slush?

In the Bitcoin world you'd specify it as some specific number of blocks expected per diff change and qualify why.

[jeecom]

I have never seen numbers so big! 

Shares:     16,481,016,828,586 (573.32%)

All we need is to crack 6 blocks in a row and then we will forget this ever happened.

[CryptoSoC8Y]

Hello,

I'm new to mining, and i started mining with Kano since 5 days now with my Antminer S9.

This is a picture of my stats of the S9.  According to these stats and info, is my miner running fine?

I would appreciate your feedback and assistance.

https://imgur.com/a/N0UKj

Thanks all

CryptoSoC8Y

[Tnaa97]

I have never seen numbers so big! 

Shares:     16,481,016,828,586 (573.32%)

All we need is to crack 6 blocks in a row and then we will forget this ever happened.

So Mote it be!

[kano]

Hello,

I'm new to mining, and i started mining with Kano since 5 days now with my Antminer S9.

This is a picture of my stats of the S9.  According to these stats and info, is my miner running fine?

I would appreciate your feedback and assistance.

https://imgur.com/a/N0UKj
Thanks all

CryptoSoC8Y

Well the numbers on the miner look like a miner doing 13.5THs
But you'd need to look at the Workers->Shift Graph and Workers->Workers to see if the pool thinks it's mining ok
- though it should agree since that number there says:
Diff Accepted: 1,515,084,858
Elapsed: 5 days 12 hrs 19 mins 32 sec = 476,372 seconds

So dividing those:
1,515,084,858 x (2^32) / 476,372 = 13.66TH/s which is OK also.

[Thrash]

Well that's not good. I just dropped 52 chips on one board on one of the S9's. Guess my hash rate is going the wrong way. 

[Tnaa97]

Has anyone purchased from these folks?
https://cryptosupplyhouse.com

[robroyman]

 

https://image.ibb.co/n1Ceyx/skel.jpg

[luxMiner]

don't just sit around and wait... grab a pickaxe and get mining...!

[stelee68]

I just connected to kano pool this morning about 12 hours ago, running Ebit E9+ and hshing steadily at about 9.3+ TH/s.

These are my numbers (rewards) below:-


Worker Name:   Work Diff   :Last Share   Shares   :Diff   :Share Rate   «Elapsed   :Invalid   Block %   :Hash Rate
xxxxxx.worker   7.380k   1s   21,984   168,874,973   9.59THs   1m 16s   0.128%   0.001%   9.55THs
Total: 1 (1 active workers)   21,984   168,874,973   9.59THs       0.128%   0.001%   9.55THs


Are these numbers correct? Seems like half of what I got from slushpool for 12 hours of mining.

Can advise please?

[os2sam]

I just connected to kano pool this morning about 12 hours ago, running Ebit E9+ and hshing steadily at about 9.3+ TH/s.

These are my numbers (rewards) below:-


Worker Name:   Work Diff   :Last Share   Shares   :Diff   :Share Rate   «Elapsed   :Invalid   Block %   :Hash Rate
xxxxxx.worker   7.380k   1s   21,984   168,874,973   9.59THs   1m 16s   0.128%   0.001%   9.55THs
Total: 1 (1 active workers)   21,984   168,874,973   9.59THs       0.128%   0.001%   9.55THs


Are these numbers correct? Seems like half of what I got from slushpool for 12 hours of mining.

Can advise please?

It takes time to populate open shifts with shares on this pool.  Slush, I believe, populates shifts very quickly which means the depopulate very quickly as well, meaning that yoiu have a higher chance of shares not being paid at all.  This pool has a long period of open shifts, 5 Times Difficulty, which means that you have a much lower chance of shares not being paid.  So once your 5 times difficulty of shifts is populated with shares you will see normal payouts.  When you stop mining you will continue to get paid for your open shifts until your 5ND is fully depopulated.

[stelee68]

I just connected to kano pool this morning about 12 hours ago, running Ebit E9+ and hshing steadily at about 9.3+ TH/s.

These are my numbers (rewards) below:-


Worker Name:   Work Diff   :Last Share   Shares   :Diff   :Share Rate   «Elapsed   :Invalid   Block %   :Hash Rate
xxxxxx.worker   7.380k   1s   21,984   168,874,973   9.59THs   1m 16s   0.128%   0.001%   9.55THs
Total: 1 (1 active workers)   21,984   168,874,973   9.59THs       0.128%   0.001%   9.55THs


Are these numbers correct? Seems like half of what I got from slushpool for 12 hours of mining.

Can advise please?

It takes time to populate open shifts with shares on this pool.  Slush, I believe, populates shifts very quickly which means the depopulate very quickly as well, meaning that yoiu have a higher chance of shares not being paid at all.  This pool has a long period of open shifts, 5 Times Difficulty, which means that you have a much lower chance of shares not being paid.  So once your 5 times difficulty of shifts is populated with shares you will see normal payouts.  When you stop mining you will continue to get paid for your open shifts until your 5ND is fully depopulated.

err... I can only run my miner during the day about 12 hours daily. Does it mean it is better for me to mine here at kano's, or better to mine at slush?

sorry for the noob question, as I'm really a noob when it comes to mining pool's shares / shift and such.

[minergain.com]

I just connected to kano pool this morning about 12 hours ago, running Ebit E9+ and hshing steadily at about 9.3+ TH/s.

These are my numbers (rewards) below:-


Worker Name:   Work Diff   :Last Share   Shares   :Diff   :Share Rate   «Elapsed   :Invalid   Block %   :Hash Rate
xxxxxx.worker   7.380k   1s   21,984   168,874,973   9.59THs   1m 16s   0.128%   0.001%   9.55THs
Total: 1 (1 active workers)   21,984   168,874,973   9.59THs       0.128%   0.001%   9.55THs


Are these numbers correct? Seems like half of what I got from slushpool for 12 hours of mining.

Can advise please?

It takes time to populate open shifts with shares on this pool.  Slush, I believe, populates shifts very quickly which means the depopulate very quickly as well, meaning that yoiu have a higher chance of shares not being paid at all.  This pool has a long period of open shifts, 5 Times Difficulty, which means that you have a much lower chance of shares not being paid.  So once your 5 times difficulty of shifts is populated with shares you will see normal payouts.  When you stop mining you will continue to get paid for your open shifts until your 5ND is fully depopulated.

err... I can only run my miner during the day about 12 hours daily. Does it mean it is better for me to mine here at kano's, or better to mine at slush?

sorry for the noob question, as I'm really a noob when it comes to mining pool's shares / shift and such.

It depends on the luck for slush.  If we assume you run exactly 12 hours per day, then once you are ramped up at Kano, you would be paid for pretty much half of your full hash rate.  At slush, they have a short ramp up/down time (not sure what it is now), so if they have a streak of great luck while your miners are on, you will do well, but if they hit a couple long blocks while your miners are on and make up the difference while yours are off, then you will really be taking a bath.  Personally I would stick with here since you know you will get paid for the hours you put in. 

[VRobb]

All right, enough screwing around, time for a Block Friday^tm already! 

[wavelengthsf]

Statistics was one of my favorite set of courses, but the real world applications can sure be brutal when you get on the wrong side of variance.

[w0216420]

---NOOB QUESTION---

I started mining with Kano back on Jan 22 with a single Antminer S9 (13.5TH). This is my first miner. I was fine with ramp up and from reading this forum, it looks like the miner was running fine (5,069,415,369 shares).

My S9 passed away this morning and will be heading back for RMA.  

My question is around payout. I have the link to https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout  

Given the apparent bad luck since Jan 22, can I expect any payout from the time my machine was online with Kano (18d)? I am not asking anyone to predict future luck (if this matters), so lets presume average luck for the next 4 blocks for the sake of conversation. I don't know how long it will take Bitmain to get the unit back to me; so I can't estimate when I will re-join the pool or if that even factors into the question.

Thanks for helping.

*EDIT*
I haven't received any reward or payout as of this post