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February 20, 2018, 11:16:25 PM
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What I was referring to with Biffa is getting more miners here on this pool and getting more of the network hashrate. Not going out and adding to the hashrate. He is stating that we should go out and "add" to the hasrate and thus add to the increased difficulty. I would rather take from the current total network and transfer a larger percentage over to us. That is why I am asking after he said he agreed with Biffa.

Either works, but the latter would be best.

Nothing happens until something moves.

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February 20, 2018, 11:19:42 PM
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I'm curious who has the least amount of hash and has found a block here on Kano Pool.

Nothing happens until something moves.

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February 20, 2018, 11:21:18 PM
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I'm curious who has the least amount of hash and has found a block here on Kano Pool.

Depends on the year you are talking about.
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February 20, 2018, 11:22:16 PM
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I'm curious who has the least amount of hash and has found a block here on Kano Pool.

Depends on the year you are talking about.

Valid point. Let's go with 2017 or the last 88 blocks on the list.

Nothing happens until something moves.

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February 20, 2018, 11:24:12 PM
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Because it would be adding that much more to the total network hash rate instead of convincing that already existing hash to move pools. More hash is more hash, but it would be ideal to not add more to the network to keep the diff lower.

That's it right there...existing miners instead of brand new hash.  That makes much more sense for all.  I'd expect to see some big movers coming over in the next week. 
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Because it would be adding that much more to the total network hash rate instead of convincing that already existing hash to move pools. More hash is more hash, but it would be ideal to not add more to the network to keep the diff lower.

That's it right there...existing miners instead of brand new hash.  That makes much more sense for all.  I'd expect to see some big movers coming over in the next week. 

That's the whole idea, behind my signature. There are tons of AntMiner owners, who are preprogrammed with disaster, and they
don't know any better. They hear Ant, and they figure it's gotta be the best. A little bit of educational promotion, can go along way.
Once they know they can earn more outside of their comfort zone, they'll want to make the switch.

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February 20, 2018, 11:35:49 PM
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What I was referring to with Biffa is getting more miners here on this pool and getting more of the network hashrate. Not going out and adding to the hashrate. He (Biffa) is stating that we should go out and "add" to the hasrate and thus add to the increased difficulty. I would rather take from the current total network and transfer a larger percentage over to us. That is why I am asking after he (Kano) said he agreed with Biffa.
The reason why Biffa is correct is that if no one was increasing their hash rate, then the pool falls behind the "Diff Curve"

Yes of course adding to the "Diff Curve" ourselves pushes the "Diff Curve" up, but in reality that isn't the case,
since if we don't, then someone else will buy those miners and push the "Diff Curve" up.

There's been no lack of available buyers for available new miners for a long time.
i.e. you haven't been able to slow down the "Diff Curve", by abstaining from buying miners, for a long time.

Indeed getting large miners to move over from somewhere else is the best solution, but once we have some over here, we can't say:
'OK that's it, we don't need to keep up with the "Diff Curve"'

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February 20, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
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What I was referring to with Biffa is getting more miners here on this pool and getting more of the network hashrate. Not going out and adding to the hashrate. He (Biffa) is stating that we should go out and "add" to the hasrate and thus add to the increased difficulty. I would rather take from the current total network and transfer a larger percentage over to us. That is why I am asking after he (Kano) said he agreed with Biffa.
The reason why Biffa is correct is that if no one was increasing their hash rate, then the pool falls behind the "Diff Curve"

Yes of course adding to the "Diff Curve" ourselves pushes the "Diff Curve" up, but in reality that isn't the case,
since if we don't, then someone else will buy those miners and push the "Diff Curve" up.

There's been no lack of available buyers for available new miners for a long time.
i.e. you haven't been able to slow down the "Diff Curve", by abstaining from buying miners, for a long time.

Indeed getting large miners to move over from somewhere else is the best solution, but once we have some over here, we can't say:
'OK that's it, we don't need to keep up with the "Diff Curve"'

Well, hopefully, it will slow down here. There have been new S9s available from Bitmain for over a week now. We need to tackle this issue and stay on top of it. Glad to have you in charge and we all really appreciate your support here.
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February 20, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
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What I was referring to with Biffa is getting more miners here on this pool and getting more of the network hashrate. Not going out and adding to the hashrate. He (Biffa) is stating that we should go out and "add" to the hasrate and thus add to the increased difficulty. I would rather take from the current total network and transfer a larger percentage over to us. That is why I am asking after he (Kano) said he agreed with Biffa.
The reason why Biffa is correct is that if no one was increasing their hash rate, then the pool falls behind the "Diff Curve"

Yes of course adding to the "Diff Curve" ourselves pushes the "Diff Curve" up, but in reality that isn't the case,
since if we don't, then someone else will buy those miners and push the "Diff Curve" up.

There's been no lack of available buyers for available new miners for a long time.
i.e. you haven't been able to slow down the "Diff Curve", by abstaining from buying miners, for a long time.

Indeed getting large miners to move over from somewhere else is the best solution, but once we have some over here, we can't say:
'OK that's it, we don't need to keep up with the "Diff Curve"'

Well, hopefully, it will slow down here. There have been new S9s available from Bitmain for over a week now. We need to tackle this issue and stay on top of it. Glad to have you in charge and we all really appreciate your support here.
I'd expect (without much doubt about being correct) that Bitmain mines with their miners before they send them out ...

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February 20, 2018, 11:51:04 PM
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What I was referring to with Biffa is getting more miners here on this pool and getting more of the network hashrate. Not going out and adding to the hashrate. He (Biffa) is stating that we should go out and "add" to the hasrate and thus add to the increased difficulty. I would rather take from the current total network and transfer a larger percentage over to us. That is why I am asking after he (Kano) said he agreed with Biffa.
The reason why Biffa is correct is that if no one was increasing their hash rate, then the pool falls behind the "Diff Curve"

Yes of course adding to the "Diff Curve" ourselves pushes the "Diff Curve" up, but in reality that isn't the case,
since if we don't, then someone else will buy those miners and push the "Diff Curve" up.

There's been no lack of available buyers for available new miners for a long time.
i.e. you haven't been able to slow down the "Diff Curve", by abstaining from buying miners, for a long time.

Indeed getting large miners to move over from somewhere else is the best solution, but once we have some over here, we can't say:
'OK that's it, we don't need to keep up with the "Diff Curve"'

Well, hopefully, it will slow down here. There have been new S9s available from Bitmain for over a week now. We need to tackle this issue and stay on top of it. Glad to have you in charge and we all really appreciate your support here.
I'd expect (without much doubt about being correct) that Bitmain mines with their miners before they send them out ...

No way.... The audacity...  Tongue
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February 21, 2018, 01:12:15 AM
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That's either a block I heard cracking or this piece of shit chair I'm sitting in...

Nothing happens until something moves.

MINE ON WITH KANO........except DPoS2
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February 21, 2018, 03:08:54 AM
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That's either a block I heard cracking or this piece of shit chair I'm sitting in...

Time for a new chair!


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN! 
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February 21, 2018, 06:18:03 AM
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What I was referring to with Biffa is getting more miners here on this pool and getting more of the network hashrate. Not going out and adding to the hashrate. He (Biffa) is stating that we should go out and "add" to the hasrate and thus add to the increased difficulty. I would rather take from the current total network and transfer a larger percentage over to us. That is why I am asking after he (Kano) said he agreed with Biffa.
The reason why Biffa is correct is that if no one was increasing their hash rate, then the pool falls behind the "Diff Curve"

Yes of course adding to the "Diff Curve" ourselves pushes the "Diff Curve" up, but in reality that isn't the case,
since if we don't, then someone else will buy those miners and push the "Diff Curve" up.

There's been no lack of available buyers for available new miners for a long time.
i.e. you haven't been able to slow down the "Diff Curve", by abstaining from buying miners, for a long time.

Indeed getting large miners to move over from somewhere else is the best solution, but once we have some over here, we can't say:
'OK that's it, we don't need to keep up with the "Diff Curve"'

Well, hopefully, it will slow down here. There have been new S9s available from Bitmain for over a week now. We need to tackle this issue and stay on top of it. Glad to have you in charge and we all really appreciate your support here.
I'd expect (without much doubt about being correct) that Bitmain mines with their miners before they send them out ...

yes .. they call it "QA testing" ... lol

not to mention all the "dust" they get. .. cos all their miners are configured to point to their pool by default out of the box.  so when a newbie miner plugs it in .. while trying to figure out which pool to point to .. and setting up the accounts ... those couple of hours all add up ...
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February 21, 2018, 06:28:06 AM
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What I was referring to with Biffa is getting more miners here on this pool and getting more of the network hashrate. Not going out and adding to the hashrate. He (Biffa) is stating that we should go out and "add" to the hasrate and thus add to the increased difficulty. I would rather take from the current total network and transfer a larger percentage over to us. That is why I am asking after he (Kano) said he agreed with Biffa.
The reason why Biffa is correct is that if no one was increasing their hash rate, then the pool falls behind the "Diff Curve"

Yes of course adding to the "Diff Curve" ourselves pushes the "Diff Curve" up, but in reality that isn't the case,
since if we don't, then someone else will buy those miners and push the "Diff Curve" up.

There's been no lack of available buyers for available new miners for a long time.
i.e. you haven't been able to slow down the "Diff Curve", by abstaining from buying miners, for a long time.

Indeed getting large miners to move over from somewhere else is the best solution, but once we have some over here, we can't say:
'OK that's it, we don't need to keep up with the "Diff Curve"'

Well, hopefully, it will slow down here. There have been new S9s available from Bitmain for over a week now. We need to tackle this issue and stay on top of it. Glad to have you in charge and we all really appreciate your support here.
I'd expect (without much doubt about being correct) that Bitmain mines with their miners before they send them out ...

yes .. they call it "QA testing" ... lol

not to mention all the "dust" they get. .. cos all their miners are configured to point to their pool by default out of the box.  so when a newbie miner plugs it in .. while trying to figure out which pool to point to .. and setting up the accounts ... those couple of hours all add up ...
Just do what I did, create own VLAN, do not give it internet access, then configure S9's then enable internet access.   But i knew that it was "preconfigured" before I got them.  They never got one hash out of me.
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February 21, 2018, 06:33:11 AM
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My idea would be to target the millions of workers on Antpool that just aren't taking the time to realize there are other options. So many people I'm sure, just leave their rigs on Antpool because it's bitmain. Bitmain pushes the pool on their site, so I don't see why we couldn't take out some ad space somewhere. I'll chip in on the first run at Minergain if he's open to posting it. But imagine if a graphic were posted on some of these difficulty sites where people track it, or on the bitcoin news sites, any exposure is better than none IF and only if your goal is to bring more people in. Get people talking.

Minergain let me know what some ad space would run on your page and we'll work something out. Again, I know this isn't the fix for what some would argue isn't even broken. I'm happy here at Kano or else I wouldn't be here like many of you. I enjoy the community, even though we argue, we don't see eye to eye, and everyone has their own opinion. But what I can suggest is, if I'm helping a newb anywhere on Bitcointalk in some other random thread and have a signature banner etc. pointing them to Kano, where I mine, they may just ask about it. They might finally google PPLNS and realize there are other options. Who knows, but it's worth a shot. I'm simply trying to bring ideas to life. Someone here said we needed graphics.

I also have no qualms with the site, which is why two of the graphics have a strikingly similar color style to them from the kano site. *tip of the hat* It won't look weird if they saw the graphic color scheme first, it would all tie together.
Hi guys. I am on vacation this week and had a couple minutes to check a couple  posts and saw minergain. I will review all this next week and Sorry for the show response.

And this is EXACTLY what it's about! Taking back from the corporate monsters, who subliminally slip their pool into everything.
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February 21, 2018, 08:52:21 AM
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Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you...  Grin
No I agree with Biffa.
It's about getting the hash rate up a lot.

While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot.
The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners.
This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some.

See, I wasn't aware it was about the number of miners. I thought it was strictly the hash rate that affected the diff. Interesting.


I think what he means is that there is only a small number of people who own 9.5PH or higher worth of gear vs you, me, DPos2, and others buying up enough gear to combine for 9.5PH or higher.   It's easier to get a bigger fish to move over than for all of us to do it collectively.   
Yes it's very hard to get 10PHs of miners.
Heh - even I couldn't get 1PH of miners from Bitmain or Canaan when I tried to directly Tongue

yes, it's hard to get the hardware... i wrote to Canaan directly as well with my intend to commit to a batch of 60 Avalon 821 machines. their director of sales and marketing wrote back saying that he will decide how to allocate the upcoming batch, to which i replied reinforcing my commitment and willingness to fly over to beijing in order to meet discuss long-term possibilities... (i've been in and out of china for the past 20 or so years). obviously, he never got back to me.
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So I don't post here much, but this has been my go to pool for about almost 3 yrs now. I love it and definitely plan on sticking here long-term, but would like to see some more hash rate here. We're working on getting about 100 more machines online in a couple of months, still working on it!

This might not be appropriate, but want to see the pool keep up which is why I'm posting this here first. Basically we have been working in upstate NY on some build out projects and currently share a space with some local miners and pull about 5 mW.

We are looking to expand our space for another 1000 machines, but are coming up a bit short on funding for the wiring and transformers we will need to put in and all that. Our partner charges $125 a machine to host currently. So we are basically looking for a couple of people that would be willing to pay the monthly fee like 3 months in advance, at some discount for helping us with the funding, to help us close the gap and make this happen. Ideally 1-2 people that could do at least 500 machines.

Been trying to convince some people in our area to allocate some to Kano-warehouse we are in draws about 50 mW so there are some big miners here, so far no luck but will keep trying. Think it would be easier to convince if the pool were larger. And for what it's worth we link to kano on our website too. If you're interested drop me a line for details!

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February 21, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
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So I don't post here much, but this has been my go to pool for about almost 3 yrs now. I love it and definitely plan on sticking here long-term, but would like to see some more hash rate here. We're working on getting about 100 more machines online in a couple of months, still working on it!

This might not be appropriate, but want to see the pool keep up which is why I'm posting this here first. Basically we have been working in upstate NY on some build out projects and currently share a space with some local miners and pull about 5 mW.

We are looking to expand our space for another 1000 machines, but are coming up a bit short on funding for the wiring and transformers we will need to put in and all that. Our partner charges $125 a machine to host currently. So we are basically looking for a couple of people that would be willing to pay the monthly fee like 3 months in advance, at some discount for helping us with the funding, to help us close the gap and make this happen. Ideally 1-2 people that could do at least 500 machines.

Been trying to convince some people in our area to allocate some to Kano-warehouse we are in draws about 50 mW so there are some big miners here, so far no luck but will keep trying. Think it would be easier to convince if the pool were larger. And for what it's worth we link to kano on our website too. If you're interested drop me a line for details!
Maybe the 10/3 BTC giveaway might convince some of them? Smiley
See the top of the first post.

I think we need to be about at least about 150 PHs to make the pool visible to large miners - but when someone can point 10PHs at the pool and expect an extra 2 BTC in a month - 10PHs should earn about 25BTC over the next month and should expect to find 2 blocks, so they'd make at least an extra 4% assuming 100% luck - of course they could get an extra 3 BTC if a little lucky Smiley

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February 21, 2018, 11:07:46 AM
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Yeah I would agree, by 150 PH would be a lot less variance, just too irregular now for them. The ones I've talked to that's the #1 thing they are uncomfortable with bc of their OH being so high

That would for sure sweeten the deal I didn't see that at first haha. That's a good idea to get some big fish on board. I'll spread the word!
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February 21, 2018, 12:17:14 PM
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So I don't post here much, but this has been my go to pool for about almost 3 yrs now. I love it and definitely plan on sticking here long-term, but would like to see some more hash rate here. We're working on getting about 100 more machines online in a couple of months, still working on it!

This might not be appropriate, but want to see the pool keep up which is why I'm posting this here first. Basically we have been working in upstate NY on some build out projects and currently share a space with some local miners and pull about 5 mW.

We are looking to expand our space for another 1000 machines, but are coming up a bit short on funding for the wiring and transformers we will need to put in and all that. Our partner charges $125 a machine to host currently. So we are basically looking for a couple of people that would be willing to pay the monthly fee like 3 months in advance, at some discount for helping us with the funding, to help us close the gap and make this happen. Ideally 1-2 people that could do at least 500 machines.

Been trying to convince some people in our area to allocate some to Kano-warehouse we are in draws about 50 mW so there are some big miners here, so far no luck but will keep trying. Think it would be easier to convince if the pool were larger. And for what it's worth we link to kano on our website too. If you're interested drop me a line for details!
Maybe the 10/3 BTC giveaway might convince some of them? Smiley
See the top of the first post.

I think we need to be about at least about 150 PHs to make the pool visible to large miners - but when someone can point 10PHs at the pool and expect an extra 2 BTC in a month - 10PHs should earn about 25BTC over the next month and should expect to find 2 blocks, so they'd make at least an extra 4% assuming 100% luck - of course they could get an extra 3 BTC if a little lucky Smiley

That's very generous of you Kano! Thanks for being a great Admin!

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